The DMZ

Scott Pack

20:09

@Simon It's adorable. Ugly, but adorable.

Simon

@ScottPack THAT'S MY CAR.

I have the exact same model you DONUT.

Are we at Tim Hornton's?

Sigh.

Iszi

@Simon Oh, I thought he was talking about your mom.

Scott Pack

Ah. I take it back then. You can strike out the adorable.

Simon

OH MA GAWD.

AviD

Drives like a molten piece of crap powered by Mexican laborers after a hard day of construction work and evading U.S. Immigration.

Scott Pack

20:11

I stopped at Tim Horton's on my way to the office this morning.

Simon

@AviD I'm sure you know a lot about this car. Is it FWD, RWD OR AWD?

AviD

dammit, you guys, now I want donuts. And there are no good donuts here.

Simon

@ScottPack What did you get?

Iszi

@AviD Should have stopped it after construction work - anecdotally, I can surmise that evading U.S. Immigration isn't all that hard.

AviD

@Simon what's AWD?

Simon

20:12

@AviD All-wheel drive.

AviD

ah.

Iszi

@AviD Full-time 4WD.

AviD

@Iszi depends on the movie.

@Iszi yeah, that's what people usually call it.

Iszi

@AviD Oh, no. Around here it's often advertised as AWD.

AviD

@Iszi really?

anyway, I dont really remember, I've gone through a few cars since then.

It's been ten years.

Iszi

20:14

@AviD Yeah, 'cause the GP are sheep who love marketing buzzwords.

AviD

Not long enough....

Hmm, lots of bounties in here today.

and they are ALL cheap-ass +50 minimum rep bounties. Shameful.

@Iszi I figured, if I'mn going for a racial slur, I might as well go the whole way.

Simon

Hat hunters are cheap.

AviD

Like @Simon's mom.

Simon

From me to my mom.

Shamelessly.

Scott Pack

@Simon Coffee.

@Simon It was 6:30am. Large coffee. Black.

AviD

20:16

hehehe, sorry, typo..... early enter onset.

Simon

@ScottPack Black? You crazy.

@AviD I'm still waiting for my pillow picture.

Scott Pack

@Simon No. I like my coffee to taste like coffee.

I always drink my coffee black.

Simon

kr4zy

AviD

@Simon hmm?

Scott Pack

I take that back. Sometimes in the winter I'll put Irish cream in my coffee.

AviD

20:17

ohhh damn, I totally forgot about that.

Simon

@AviD You forget everytime.

Hehe.

Iszi

@AviD Why can't I even find the damn bounty button?

Oh, probably because all the questions I'm looking at aren't old enough yet.

Simon

@ScottPack Why only in the winter?

Scott Pack

That's "bounty" not "booty".

2

AviD

@ScottPack I only switched to black when I started with real coffee, from single source beans, made in a proper French Press.

Scott Pack

20:18

@Simon Just doesn't appeal to me in the summer.

AviD

Milk just ruins that.

@Simon heh, this is true. Keep reminding me.

Remind me again, why did you want to see it?

Scott Pack

@Simon It's the same with Rum&Coke. For me that's a winter drink. I just don't consider it during the summer.

Iszi

@AviD And you never went back?

Lucas Kauffman

herro

Simon

@ScottPack Really? It's not a seasonal thing for me.

Lucas Kauffman

20:19

this hat is perfect

Simon

It's a mask you donut.

So many donuts today.

Lucas Kauffman

@Simon check my profile (hasn't synced yet it seems)

AviD

@ScottPack really? to me that is very summery.

Simon

@LucasKauffman I even had to CTRL+F5 once I was on your profile to see it.

@AviD It's always good!

AviD

not wrong, but not always appropriate.

Simon

20:21

It is. Hell, let your newborn have some!

AviD

@LucasKauffman oh yes, it really is.

@Simon coke?? no way.

Simon

@AviD Rum's fine though, right?

AviD

@Simon oh sure.

Usually whisky, though. And some wine on the sabbath.

Simon

Fancy kid.

AviD

@Lucas the 2 answers here already have credible AND official sources - NIST is pretty much as official as you get, and pretty credible in this area. FAIR is also well known and well regarded, and that is the official site for it. So what are you looking for? — AviD 40 secs ago

@LucasKauffman ^ ?

Simon

20:28

People who favorite their own question should be executed.

Iszi

@AviD I think he just picked the wrong bounty reason.

AviD

@Iszi I think he just randomly hit anything, not caring at all, just desperately shoving those rep points away in pursuit of that elusive umbrella hat.

Iszi

@AviD Neither of these assertions would invalidate the other.

Though mine is more likely to be true, as it requires fewer assumptions.

AviD

@Iszi "wrong" implies there is a "right" reason, which implies there is a purpose or reason in selecting a bounty.

Iszi

@AviD Oh, there's definitely a purpose.

AviD

20:32

@Iszi yours has more than mine.

Simon

sigh

AviD

Mine only relies on the assumption that @LucasKauffman is a cheating, gaming hatwhore.

and that assumption is a validated one.

Simon

@AviD You argue over silly things today.

Iszi

@Simon As if anything else is worth arguing over.

Simon

^ winner

AviD

20:38

43

A: One word for Christmas?

I am going to propose "Anteneoannusnoelojollification" Built from ante — Before neo — new annus — year noel — Christmas o — bridging vowel for word fluidity jollification — the act of jollifying, making happy. Making something merry at Christmas before the New Year. No citations until i...

and read the comments on that.

Simon

Those guys are real nurdz.

AviD

sfunny.

Simon

wot

David Freitag

Holy capacitors batman. This RGMII PHY takes 35 caps alone O_O

Simon

@DavidFreitag I didn't understand a single word.

Iszi

20:47

@Simon <grumpy> Ok, I'm really getting pretty tired with that. Either have the respect to spell it right, or GTFO because you're obviously hanging out with the wrong crowd by being here.</grumpy>

David Freitag

@Simon RGMII -> Reduced Gigabit Media Independent Interface, PHY -> Physical Interface (Gigabit Transceiver)

Simon

@Iszi Sometimes, people here spell it exactly like I do which makes me happy so I will continue to spell it like that.

@DavidFreitag And you can put 35 hats on them?

David Freitag

@Simon Capacitors, man, capacitors.

Iszi

@Simon Yes. Sometimes is ironic and amusing. Every time is just being an asshat.

Simon

@Iszi chat.stackexchange.com/…

Scott Pack

20:51

@AviD That's what most people say. I don't disagree, it's definitely more summery than wintery. I think what happened is that I first had rum&coke in the winter and set up that association.

AviD

ok @RoryAlsop I'm pretty sure I figured out IG-88. And note that there are some people that have it, but not the Bounty Hunter...

Iszi

@Simon See, you're searching for the correct spelling there - as opposed to your spelling which phonetically elicits bad childhood memories.

Simon

@Iszi Which proves that I don't always spell it wrong.

i winz the silly argument.

AviD

@Simon it also proves you overuse that word waaaay too much.

Simon

@AviD Get lost, nerd.

Iszi

20:53

@Simon But 90% or more of the instances of "nurd" are said by you.

Simon

@Iszi I'm proud of it.

David Freitag

@Simon Why would you buckle to @Iszi? Have a spine man.

Simon

@DavidFreitag I didn't understand a single word again.

Iszi

@Simon And you use the incorrect spelling nearly twice as much as the correct one.

Simon

@Iszi That's how I roll.

David Freitag

20:55

@Simon Yeah i keep forgetting you're Canadian...

Iszi

@Simon Further demonstrative of your asshatishness.

Simon

#yolo

@Iszi You better hit the gym soon enough.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Can't be. He hasn't apologized once in this conversation.

David Freitag

@Iszi I bet he has apologized out loud. I imagine he must've ruined the "i'm sorry" keys by now.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag No, 'cause then he'd be saying "nud".

David Freitag

20:57

@Iszi shhh.

Simon

le shhh

Nerdy @Iszi, from now on I'll try to spell it right.

Iszi

@Simon That's all I'm asking. Well, either that or GTFO - as previously stated.

Simon

o

Iszi

@RoryAlsop Your question is on the supercollider.

Or perhaps we should call it the not-so-supercollider?

Lucas Kauffman

@iszi so I can't give free rep?

Iszi

21:02

@LucasKauffman Said who?

Simon

I have an official statement to make.

@ScottPack is my dad and @Iszi is my mom.

Lucas Kauffman

I meant @avid sorry

Iszi

@Simon No, it's the other way around. Remember, when I say something you don't like you always run to @ScottPack.

Simon

I like how you don't mind to be one of my parents.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi yup - Subarus call it AWD.

Lucas Kauffman

21:05

@avid if any of the answers has already got official sources then I will just attribute the rep to that answer. What does it even matter?

Simon

Too broad: security.stackexchange.com/questions/47367/…

AviD

@DavidFreitag Canadian keyboards have an "I'm sorry" key?

Rory Alsop

@AviD hmmmm

Simon

And I'm really happy to learn that his uncle works for Dow Chemical.

David Freitag

@AviD Yeah, you didn't know that?

Lucas Kauffman

21:06

@avid I don't really understand your problem with it, so please elaborate.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi I know - it's been at number 2 for a while (which incidentally describes it...)

AviD

@LucasKauffman hatwhore.

Rory Alsop

@AviD am I right on the assassin bit?

AviD

@DavidFreitag sorry, no.

Rory Alsop

you have to eliminate an SEI employee

AviD

21:08

@LucasKauffman no real problem, just didnt make sense to me.

Lucas Kauffman

You're just jelly.

AviD

basically asking for something thats already there.

@RoryAlsop hahhha, that took me a while to parse.

David Freitag

@AviD Canada got together with all of the major keyboard manufacturers and had them add it between the Print Screen button and F12. They took a vote and decided that they were all sick and tired of typing "I'm sorry" out, so they made one button to spit it out.

AviD

@RoryAlsop If I am correct - not particularly.

@RoryAlsop lol

Iszi

Would it be really that wrong to flag this as duplicate? I mean, just because the asker doesn't want to accept the answer provided in the existing question doesn't invalidate the answer.

1

Q: List installed personal certificates in command line

I use a few secure websites that require me to install a PFX certificate to access them. I have multiple computers I do this from, and I need a quick way of determining which ones in which I still need to install the certificate. Is there a way I can list all the certificates in the Personal sto...

AviD

21:12

@Iszi not at all. Powershell IS on the commandline.

Iszi

@AviD Yeah, just not the command line he wants it to be - even though, as demonstrated, it can still be called from it.

AviD

exactly.

and I like how the one answer he got uses powershell from batch.

Rory Alsop

will have a look at that comment stream and cleanup shortly

AviD

ta.

Simon

Jesus Christ, I think I'm tired.

public function blabla() {
return $this->blabla();
}

IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE.

David Freitag

21:19

Doesn't matter, had sex.

Simon

wot

Iszi

@DavidFreitag 11 minutes? New record high for you?

David Freitag

@Iszi Hah, it didn't take that long. Just made a sandwich and drank a glass of OJ.

AviD

@Iszi he even had time left over for a sandwich. Me, it takes that long just to get my pants off. #gettingold

Simon

@AviD gettin' gold?!?

AviD

21:25

hehe

whoa, @RoryAlsop you're #10 on the hat network. Youre welcome.

Rory Alsop

@AviD yeah - that's what I was giving you props for earlier :-)

but look how far ahead peanutmanish is

Simon

cheaters

Gilles

@AviD as long as it takes long until you put your pants back on

AviD

@RoryAlsop yeah, but he's running out of options.

Scott Pack

2

David Freitag

21:33

@AviD Have they said how many hats there are total?

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag they never do until it's over

Simon

@ScottPack <3

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop This is my first year of actual participation (if you could call it that)

AviD

@DavidFreitag nope

@DavidFreitag (not secret hats) + (discovered hats) + 1

Scott Pack

@AviD 1?

David Freitag

21:35

@AviD Ah, so they never tell how many secret hats there are?

TildalWave

funny that the hats leaderboard for Poker amd Homebrewing is top-filled with SE stuff

AviD

@ScottPack there is always one that nobody can discover. Doncha know?

Scott Pack

@AviD fucking developers

Simon

^

Gilles

There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers all the hats and what they are for, Winter Bash will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory, which states that this has already happened.

AviD

21:37

hahah

kalina

@Gilles paraphrase hitchhikers guide much

Gilles

@kalina yes

TildalWave

OK I'm in the lead for 2 sites ... and #10 on Sec.SE I think, not bad

I'd still rather be skiing in Aspen like some of those that are under me in number of hats might be...

David Freitag

@TildalWave No way, too cold. I'd rather be sitting in my open-construction office on Hawaii.

TildalWave

or that ;)

Simon

22:01

Can a kind moderator nuke this crap? security.stackexchange.com/questions/12446/…

Gilles

-2

A: How do I know if my computer is being used for a botnet-based DDoS attack?

In the morning i was again trapped by a hacker. As soon usb-based unbuntu booted up , there was a panel showing a upgrade guide, so i without thinking, clicked and then i was disconnected from internet and the usb stick does not work. So I have to again install the stick with the live cd. It was ...

oops, forgot his meds

Simon

No kidding.

AviD

@Simon no, sorry, I took care of it instead.

Simon

@AviD You're no fun.

AviD

I may be fun, but noone ever accused me of being kind.

Simon

22:08

o

That's my bad.

AviD

well, sometimes they did, but it usually was more like

> What kind of man ARE you?

Simon

Followed by some insane sex, right?

Gilles

@AviD I guess he meant “can a kind of moderator …”

AviD

@Simon usually a disgusted look, sometimes a call to the police.

and then the insane sex.

Simon

o

O

You should totally make a movie.

AviD

22:17

@Simon that's what I was doing at the time.

Simon

Naj

Product recommendation, right? security.stackexchange.com/questions/47373/selinux-vs-apparmor

Iszi

@Simon S&M

ekaj

opinion based

imo =p

Simon

Whatevs, it's off-topic as nobs.

Gilles

@Simon uh? No.

AviD

22:21

actually, this might just be constrained enough to work it into something useful. But I'm eating now, so leave me alone.

Simon

@AviD You're useful.

AviD

actually, with @Gilles deathly pallor popping up, a thought occurs to me that Unix & Linux might be a better place, anyway.

Gilles

@AviD it's borderline between “how can I express my requirements in this model” (on-topic here) and “how can I express my requirements in this tool” (off-topic here)

AviD

@Gilles yeah, kinda what I was thiking.

"my requirements" -> "aspects I should be considering, and perform my own tradeoff later".

Simon

@AviD If you don't validate my flag, I won't ever come back. Wait...

Gilles

22:25

so it's a win-win situation then?

David Freitag

@Simon I think that's probably a no brainer.

Simon

:(

Gilles

@DavidFreitag it isn't polite to use “that” when refering to people

AviD

@Gilles LOL

Simon

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

David Freitag

22:27

@Gilles But it's Canadian...

Iszi

@Simon And he's posted a near-dupe: security.stackexchange.com/questions/47371/…

ekaj

I wonder how much of the tools he actually understands if he's asking about finding a hidden server: security.stackexchange.com/questions/47329/…

Simon

@Iszi Oh boy, le free flag.

Iszi

@ekaj Unclear/too broad/breaking a specific system.

Simon

Flag 'em all!

ekaj

22:32

The one I posted? I was just curious if he actually knew what he was doing or just blindly following a tut on a web page

Iszi

@ekaj Yeah. Three close reasons right there, for the one you posted.

ekaj

Ah, well have at it =p

TildalWave

heh I just asked someone if he could edit some grammar into his answer :)

Simon

@AviD I got 3 flags you gotta validate. Get to work lazy bum, you don't get paid to do nothing.

Iszi

@Simon For the work here, he's not paid at all.

AviD

22:37

this.

Iszi

Except occasionally in hugs, from @Aarthi. But she gives those out for free, anyway. And it's been awhile since we've seen her.

AviD

@Simon and no, there is only one flag.

Simon

Did you both think I was being serious?

@AviD YOU ALWAYS LIE, ALWAYS.

AviD

@Iszi she hasnt been at SEI for quite a while.

Iszi

@AviD I know. But she's been around now and then since. Just much more rarely.

Gilles

22:38

and like all ex-employees she stopped participating on SE

or didn't she buck the trend and start a new account?

Iszi

@Gilles Why would SE hire people that don't care about SE except for their job?

Oh, right. So they don't spend all their time messing around on SE instead of doing their job.

Gilles

@Iszi why not? And what does that have to do with ex-employees stopping using SE?

Simon

pls dads stop arguing it makes me crai

Iszi

@Gilles Presumably, one who stops using SE after being separated from their employment never cared about SE outside of work to begin with. Or is just doing so out of spite and is therefore an asshat anyway.

Except @Aarthi. 'Cause we love @Aarthi.

AviD

@Iszi and how do you explain volunteer mods, who stop using after not modding?

Simon

22:44

You're tagging someone I've never ever seen since I joined this chat. Chances are that he/she's not getting the notifications, noob.

Gilles

@Iszi Several people were hired after using SE for a long time, and quit using SE when they quit working for SE

Iszi

Then maybe I should re-evaluate any desires I had for working for SE. Sounds like they just burn a lot of people out.

Or maybe it's the users. Yup. I have no issue with filing this problem as Layer 8.

@Simon I can always hope that if I tag her enough, she'll come back and bring the free hugs with her.

Simon

Layer 8 = 8 inches in front of the screen I guess?

@Iszi Dude! Something must have happened between you two.

It sounds like she was making you happy.

AviD

@Simon no, she was just that awesome.

Iszi

@Simon Physical, Data-Link, Network, Transport, Session, Presentation, Application, [User].

Simon

22:47

@Iszi Boy.

ManishEarth

@gilles aarthi is still on se

AviD

@Iszi That would be a lot more relevant if the OSI model was, yknow, in use.

Iszi

@AviD You're calling me old?

AviD

huh?

Iszi

@ManishEarth Looks like she hasn't been notably seen since May.

ManishEarth

22:49

@iszi aarthi mentioned it herself: coming back to se after having a very powerful set of tools as a newbie is hard

Simon

She found a man better than you guys, sorry.

ManishEarth

@iszi different account

Sockpuppet (legit)

ManishEarth

23:01

Winter. Is. Coming.

thinks up something witty

@Simon the Lemon is a sour idiot

2

Simon

Clever.

ManishEarth

^ Star worthy? :p

Simon

Yes, yes.

ManishEarth

Thank you. I would reciprocate but the mobile site has no star button

shakes fist at devs

Simon

It's ok I already have it anyway.

ManishEarth

23:03

How?

Dec 20 utc started now

Simon

It was available today for some reason.

ManishEarth

Wait oops

It starts in exactly an hour

facepalm

Simon

I got it this morning.

ManishEarth

Huh, nice

Simon

aka ~8-9 hours ago.

ManishEarth

23:04

Probably due to timezones

Simon

Yeah

ManishEarth

That makes 39 :>

Simon

low

ManishEarth

Low?

Lemon.

Gilles

2

@ManishEarth no, seems that they're doing it like last year: when it's 20 Dec in any timezone

ekaj

23:11

meh I lol'd

imgur.com/gallery/M7A8ash

David Freitag

@Gilles Pffft, winter is already here. I've logged nearly ten hours with the shovel already.

Gilles

@ManishEarth I'm tired of handing out hats left and right. From now on, to get something starred or upvoted, you need one or more of: a pun, a haiku, a limerick, alexandrins, or a meme image. Good ones only.

ManishEarth

Can't me me from mobile

*meme

But sure

David Freitag

Low data allowance?

AviD

@Gilles what about a punnish limerick haiku in a meme?

ManishEarth

23:16

There once was a man named @Simon / Who was as sour as a lemon / With @kalina he flirted / The site he deserted / That despicable man named @Simon

6

Already have a star though. :p

/me likes limericks

Gilles

@AviD for that I might see my way to IG-88

ManishEarth

@gilles IG 88 is bounty related, no?

AviD

@Gilles assassination???

David Freitag

@ManishEarth You should edit some @'s in there so he gets pinged with it for later.

Gilles

@ManishEarth yes

AviD

23:18

@ManishEarth -ish.

ManishEarth

@david can't, mods feel free to do so

AviD

I should go get that one...

Gilles

hmmm, I guess you might get it and not figure it out

ManishEarth

@avid you know the exact criteria for all the hats, no?

David Freitag

@ManishEarth Wait, what? You do have a blue name...

AviD

23:19

@ManishEarth not all, but I am detecting well.

ManishEarth

@gilles Unfortunately the exact criteria is pivotal for this one

@david mobile site

David Freitag

@ManishEarth :\

ManishEarth

Gtg, cya

Simon

23:36

@ManishEarth Very poetic, I'm proud of ya.

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