The DMZ

Rory Alsop

00:01

@AviD I just wanted to type a couple of lines to see what my headphones looked like :-)

@DavidFreitag nice

I figured it had to be an arduino thing

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop Yeah they're super cool

AviD

@RoryAlsop heh, woohoo!

Simon

They don't look as good as my Sennheiser HD 280 pro though.

David Freitag

They look better than your face though.

Simon

That is true.

David Freitag

00:09

@Simon store.steampowered.com/app/241070/?snr=1_4_4__112

Simon

@DavidFreitag Oh that looks nice, thanks.

David Freitag

@Simon yw

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag that's cool. I used to be a Sonar fan - but then played with the latest Cubase and converted

Simon

They're all super expensive except Logic pro

But you need a damn Mac.

l'home time

Scott Pack

00:27

I used to be a Sonar fan but then it went mainstream.

Rory Alsop

@ScottPack pffft - hipster

Scott Pack

There used to be a badge for that. You probably haven't heard of it.

AviD

@RoryAlsop you got the frosty

Rory Alsop

@AviD yeah, but still not able to articulate why I got the Yeager

AviD

@RoryAlsop answered quickly / got upvotes quickly.

Gilles

00:39

I think it's answer and get an upvote within one hour of the question being posted

not sure about the exact figures

Rory Alsop

the 3 I have were all first answer and first upvotes

maybe 3 votes

Gilles

I got it for two upvotes, and I think I got it before the second upvote

AviD

is there any easy way to see everyone with a certain hat?

Gilles

oh, and on SO I got it even though I was the second to answer the question

Rory Alsop

@Gilles had the question been upvoted

@Gilles oooh - tat confuses things

Gilles

00:42

@RoryAlsop by me in both cases

Rory Alsop

@Gilles so that removes that datapoint

@AviD - clever - let's see if that works

(just spotted your tag edit)

AviD

heh. but I guess not, it should have happened by now.

w000t! you just got it.

I cracked it! I WIIIINNN!!!!!

now SSSHSHHHHH!

Rory Alsop

Okay - now how do we get it for you

AviD

@RoryAlsop it was confusin, because apparently in one datapoint, he did that and then removed it. Or somebody did.

Rory Alsop

I will do the same - I think it was just than one action on that one type of post, yes

okay - let's see if that works

did you have a number in mind? The one I chose may not have enough upvotes

AviD

00:48

hmm? no, that doesnt make sense.

watch:

Rory Alsop

I am not seeing anything

AviD

wait for it

Rory Alsop

in here?

AviD

hang on

waaaaaiiit foooor iiiiiiiitttt

in the meantime, this is cool:

►

Rory Alsop

@AviD So do you know how you got your Yeager?

AviD

00:56

approximately. I answered within 25 minutes, got 2 upvotes in less than 10. that was enough.

Rory Alsop

@AviD but @Gilles stated he got one with only 1 upvote

AviD

@RoryAlsop so, I got an extra one....

Rory Alsop

On security I managed to post a brief answer within about 20 seconds of a post, but then I edited it in the grace period, so I wasn't 100% sure. On English I also edited, but outside the grace period. On Amateur Radio I didn't edit my post at all, which clinched it for me. Edits are irrelevant

all 3 got 3 upvotes and were first post

(but @Gilles had one that was his 2nd post)

AviD

I think it is: post within X minutes, upvoted within X minutes.

hahah, that scarf looks fantastic on you.

very whoish.

Rory Alsop

on my screen your headphones don't scale when your icon scales

I'm still waiting...

AviD

01:01

hmm. I guess it needed to be with a new question...

Rory Alsop

@AviD was this for the scarf too?

or were you playing with another one

AviD

yeah :-(

Gilles

what's the groucho hat?

AviD

Hipster. You wouldnt have heard of it.

Rory Alsop

@AviD but I think I saw the single action you did for mine

Gilles

01:03

oh, not groucho. I only saw the moustache on Rory's avatar

AviD

@RoryAlsop right, but it was a follow on to your question.

Gilles

ah, “hipster” = “before it was cool”?

Rory Alsop

@AviD okay, now I'm lost

I tought it was that single edit

to my question

Gilles

so it's about creating a tag?

AviD

@RoryAlsop what I mailed you? nothing to do with votes, just with at least 2 q's [censored]

Rory Alsop

01:06

I thought I understood how I got it but now I really don't

AviD

I helped.

Gilles

someone else creates a tag where you then have >N score?

Rory Alsop

or more than one?

AviD

you dont really want me to talk about that here, do you?

Rory Alsop

@AviD nah

AviD

01:07

Then everyone will get it, and it will become all popular. Then I wont want it anymore.

Gilles

er... that's what she said?

oh

snob

Rory Alsop

I'm just knee deep in SOx and working to finish a paper tonight so I can sleep before I deliver it, so my brain is not clever

Gilles

but can you deliver it before you sleep?

AviD

@RoryAlsop oy, SOx. Loads of fun.

half bottle?

Rory Alsop

Cider

@Gilles I wish

Scott Pack

01:25

@AviD Easy trigger. What did you crack?

Rory Alsop

@ScottPack have you seen my nice scarf

scarves are cool

Scott Pack

I just did.

So what's that one for

Rory Alsop

@ScottPack being cool, before it was cool

Scott Pack

So I suppose it's answering woah quickly?

Hm. This looks fun. I think we'll need to go find it.

roadsideamerica.com/story/9791

Also, this is loads of fun to drive past with people.

roadsideamerica.com/story/9527

"What on earth is that?"

"Corn field."

Rory Alsop

'Murrica is weird'

Scott Pack

01:32

Apparently a guy who was big into hybrid corn lived here and worked out of a nearby university.

Hm. This also says that Arnold was titled "Mr. World" here so they build a statue to commemorate it.

I need to go see these things.

You would probably understand if you were a 'Merkin.

Rory Alsop

@ScottPack hell - I want to see all the weird things

2

Scott Pack

ahem

Rory Alsop

well, maybe not all

Simon

02:11

'MERICA

Close this bullshit: security.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/18706

NOW.

Pretty please :)

Thankies :D

Rory Alsop

np

yay - @ScottPack is in 2nd :-)

Simon

02:27

I really gotta start hunting hats for real.

Rory Alsop

ooh - I'm on page 2 of the SE-wide leaderboard (a vast way behind @Kalina and @Peanut though)

Simon

That's cool.

Rory Alsop

@Simon nah - the ones you have to hunt are frustrating and annoying (but rewarding once you figure them out)

Simon

Yeah I get that.

Rory Alsop

do you like my nursey hat - got it for closing that question you flagged :-)

Simon

02:28

Haha sweet.

Rory Alsop

but need bed now. too tired

seeya manana

Simon

There are a bunch that I can't get because of my low rep though.

gn8!

ManishEarth

@avid wait, you figured out hipster? Tell! :D

Ah, you did

ManishEarth

03:00

Now Im confused :s

Simon

wot

Less hunting, more sleeping might help you out.

ManishEarth

I slept.

Simon

Liar.

You're so addicted to hat hunting that you lie.

ManishEarth

Check my activity

Simon

nou

Adnan

04:37

@RoryA Was that an intentional rep-train bait? Because I found it hard to believe that you'd actually ask such a question

Terry Chia

04:56

@Adnan Hats. Duh...

ManishEarth

05:27

I need to engineer a rep train question for a hat

But I don't know what to ask, and on which site. Have some ideas but so far not too good

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth I'm sure you can think of something for here.

ManishEarth

@TerryChia Most of the questions are too stupid. I tried with the clickjacking one, but that isn't really reptrainable even though it's something everyone should know

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Here's a hint. Most people don't know what clickjacking is.

ManishEarth

yeah, got that bit :P

Terry Chia

My opinion? Make up some crazy story ala greenfly. :P

ManishEarth

05:32

I don't like lying :P

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth "My dad is blocking 4chan! How can I bypass it?"

ManishEarth

That's not yet been asked?

"How can I bypass Internet filtering?"

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Dunno.... I sincerely hope not.

ManishEarth

I don't think it's on topic...is it?

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth I think it falls under "asking us to break the security of a specific system for you are off-topic unless they demonstrate an understanding of the concepts involved and clearly identify a specific problem."

ManishEarth

05:36

yeah

@TerryChia How about "How do I educate friends/employees about social engineering?"

I actually have a true "story" behind that

(a) Is it on topic/a good question?

(b) Rep train-able?

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Well, even if you don't get a train out of that it would at least be a pretty interesting question.

I'd say there's a 50/50 chance of it being a train.

ManishEarth

Trudat

Ready your answers

@TerryChia 50/50? Those are great odds

Let me put the @Adnan on high alert.....

pokes @Adnan

Terry Chia

Here comes @LucasKauffman. All ready for the train.

ManishEarth

lllllllama train

Terry Chia

Fricking Llama.. :P

Lucas Kauffman

05:48

Choo chooooo plus I have some nice examples for social engineering

ManishEarth

@LucasKauffman get them ready!

@TerryChia llamas are good

Lucas Kauffman

Let me get my laptop

ManishEarth

0

Q: How do I educate others about social engineering?

One of my friends used to boast about how long his passwords are. One day, I decided to play a prank and social-engineered it out of him. I was pretty surprised as to how effortless the entire procedure was, and how oblivious others can be. Many of my acquaintances don't seem to understand the d...

@TerryChia Feel free to edit it for improving

Also, what I didn't mention is that I boast about password length too :P

@TerryChia For it to rep train does it need to be shared somewhere too? I haven't had much success with that in the past

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Dunno... I never had much luck engineering rep trains.

ManishEarth

Ah

I think the issue is that we understand the rep trainable questions well enough that we find them idiotic :P

ManishEarth

06:11

Also asked codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16056/christmas-quine, PCG has a propensity for rep trains

gtg

Thanks, @TerryChia

Lucas Kauffman

answered

upboat all the things so this can reptrain

ManishEarth

07:39

Gonna be low activity for next few days

Iszi

Kudos to @Samuel for answering this, but I don't think it's really the sort of question we want to encourage.

0

Q: Hacked site - encrypted code

Couple days ago I gave noticed that almost all php files on my server are infected with some encrypted code and in almost every file is different. Here is the example from one of the files: http://pastebin.com/JtkNya5m Can anybody tell me what this code do or how to decode it?

malware file-encryption backdoor

TildalWave

If anyone here is interested, we'll have an event for the launch of Soyuz with ESA's Gaia space observatory atop it from French Guiana, following it in The Pod Bay on Space.SE in about 1 hour. Actual launch window is narrow, and starts at 09:12 GMT (4:12 a.m. EST), and the live stream starts at 08:50 GMT (3:50 a.m. EST).

And good morning to all ;)

Damn... I'm one hour too early ain't I? Moar coffeee!!!!

OK, it's in an hour then

Lucas Kauffman

08:06

Chooo choooo

oooh I want to follow

Rory Alsop

@Adnan ...I know...hats...rep train...still, I earned 5 new hats site-wide whille asleep so that's cool :)

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop that nurse hat on your mask is disturbing

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman is okay - it should change any moment

but yes, it is disturbing

"here - I'll take care of you...mwahahahahaha"

Lucas Kauffman

08:24

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Not much rep from the train so far. Damn them for hiding the hot questions list!

Stephane

'Morning

Rory McCune

Mornin' All

AviD

@ManishEarth you're welcome, hipster. ;-)

WHO DA MAN??

WOT the hell. a hacking tag?? A goddam frikkin hacking tag. Goddammit.

@ScottPack did his girlfriend give him that nickname?

kalina

I haxxor your tagz

AviD

08:39

@kalina what @kalina, no scarf? ;-)

kalina

I don't have before it was cool

because @manish hasn't shared the secret sauce with me yet

2

I've tried like 5 things so far

I'm starting to think it's a views badge of some kind

AviD

@RoryAlsop you're welcome.

kalina

it is only day 4 and I'm still missing some simple hats

AviD

@kalina hey, that's MY sauce he's not sharing with you!

kalina

like 10 questions with +1, gold badge, etc

@AviD ooOOOooo

do share

AviD

08:41

@kalina it's all about the data.

kalina

no cryptic stuff, I'm still half asleep

AviD

Just call me... DATA DETECTIVE.

@kalina aww, cmoooon

kalina

GIVE ME TEH CODEZ

AviD

All the information you need is here in the transcript.

kalina

eugh

AviD

08:42

@kalina okay

quid pro quo.

@RoryAlsop why did they give you the eureka?? It was I that figured it out!

kalina

too much effort to look through the transcript

AviD

@ManishEarth numerous times. Most of them were closed for NaRQ.

@kalina okay, then you can bribe me.

Or blackmail. But I prefer a good bribe.

and dont try with hats. Obviously, I dont care enough about them.

kalina

my presence should be incentive enough, I brighten up every place I go with my smile

Terry Chia

@kalina You.... smile?

AviD

@ManishEarth thats also been done... duuuuupe

@kalina Unfortunately, I have yet to see your smile.

Hmm. Now that might just be bribe enough.

kalina

08:46

never going to happen

AviD

Or blackmail. Depends on your perspective.

kalina

are you able to join chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/12051?

AviD

SSSHHHH

@kalina no

kalina

and lol, mods without infinite power

AviD

@Iszi I agree, but its not really OT, its more TL...

kalina

08:50

do they have to be new or just asked during winterbash?

AviD

:12734022 'course, mods can still see...

@kalina yes

kalina

am I able to like, just edit questions

@AviD yes to WHAT

OMG

I just passed 30k rep on Arqade

30005 reps

AviD

@kalina congrats!!!

kalina

thanks

if I rep cap today, it will be my fourth day in a row

which will be the first time I've ever done that as well

AviD

oy, the nerve of some people. Someone downvoted me. And my answer was 100% correct, but his wrong answer is based on a misunderstanding of the vulnerability. Unsurprising.

kalina

08:54

@AviD I've had a bunch of those recently

normally my last received vote of the day

just to stop me from getting updo

spiteful

they must have forgotten yesterday

AviD

ah no, this time it wasnt spite, it was stupidity.

Remember Hanlon's Razor....

kalina

don't make me google

AviD

> Never attribute to Malice that which is adequately explained by Stupidity.

kalina

interesting

do they have to be new questions in order to qualify?

asked after the creation

AviD

I think just the first.

Think about the idea of the hat...

Terry Chia

08:56

@AviD Well, I'll downvote his answer because I dislike odd numbers in my reputation.

kalina

but that means somebody else needs to ask it

AviD

@kalina no no, you ask the question, then anybody can edit another question.

trying to keep it non-obvious here....

Rory Alsop

@AviD because that answer was not correct. I actually tried a stack of possibles.

AviD

@RoryAlsop no no, I flipped the trigger on your hat.

Rory Alsop

for the eureka?

I thought we had been discussing the yeager

AviD

09:00

@RoryAlsop wait, wasnt it manually given to you, for figuring out the hipster?

@kalina I'm iiiinnn

Rory Alsop

@AviD I tried to get it for the Yeager but gave up and prob got it for the Listenin'

AviD

@RoryAlsop again, my detective skillz ;-)

how'd you get it?

@TerryChia Y U NO VtC??

kalina

I SEE YOU'RE IN

Terry Chia

@AviD Why VTC?

AviD

umm, Dupe? Just like you said in your answer?

Terry Chia

09:05

It's not a dupe.

AviD

just cuz the asker didnt know what it was called, doesnt mean its not a dupe.

Terry Chia

One is asking what is a EV certificate. One is asking why firefox is displaying a grey padlock.

TildalWave

Launch - 6 minutes @RoryAlsop interested?

spaceinvideos.esa.int/esalive

AviD

@TerryChia "Because it is not an EV certificate".

Rory Alsop

@AviD message on it's way to you

AviD

09:07

> •What is a technical difference?
> •How does it impact my browsingsecurity?

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave cool - will have to have it without sound. Conference calls suck!

At least I'm working from home today - was working till 3am and it has snowed so I'm not up to going anywhere

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop haha yeah bummer :)

AviD

how is that NOT a dupe?

Terry Chia

@AviD By that logic you can close half the questions tagged ssl as a dupe of security.stackexchange.com/questions/20803/how-does-ssl-work

AviD

@TerryChia git crackin'

Terry Chia

09:13

@AviD git: 'crackin' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

Rory Alsop

hahahaha

AviD

lol

should have seen that coming

Terry Chia

@AviD Yes, yes you should. ;)

Lucas Kauffman

passed Jeff

where is Jeff, haven't seen him in week

Terry Chia

Man, looks like I won't be able to afford Black Hat Asia tickets after all...:(

AviD

09:24

actually, when I think about it, the Eureka is really the only hat I want. I dont care about getting the hats, I just like figuring the seekrit ones.

kalina

@avid see the other room

if you respond I will share Eureka with you

Rory Alsop

the challenge is to get it without @Kalina telling you how :-)

actually, @AviD knows - his comments set me on the right track

AviD

@kalina oh, I know how to get it.

thats not enough of a bribe there....

Rory Alsop

not enough of a bribe? a private room with @Kalina? :-)

kalina

you'd think, wouldn't you?

Rory Alsop

09:28

;-P

AviD

@RoryAlsop hehe. Well ,it all depends on what happens next...

Terry Chia

@AviD IF something happens, is that good or bad?

AviD

exactly.

Before I went in, I prepared scented lotion, fuzzy handcuffs, and a fire extinguisher. Best to be prepared for anything.

ah, got rid of the stoopid hacking tag.

@TerryChia that movie looks brilliant!

Terry Chia

@AviD Movie?

AviD

now you see me

Terry Chia

09:42

@AviD Ahhh. It's pretty funny.

Don't try to make sense of the logic behind it though.

AviD

there is a huge cast of stars there.

i'll look for it tonight.

Terry Chia

@AviD Legally? ;)

AviD

I notice that the facebook guy is typecast as the snooty guy who always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room....

@TerryChia Look, yes. ;-)

Terry Chia

@AviD Nuke this! security.stackexchange.com/questions/47325/uk-sc-clearance

AviD

Doesnt Netflix have it.... ? 0:-)

Terry Chia

09:44

@AviD Dunno. Never used netflix. I just torrent.

AviD

Legally???

Terry Chia

@AviD No, duh. :P

AviD

@TerryChia haha, his question was about the british Ministry of Defence (MoD), so of course he selected the mod-security tag....

Terry Chia

Problem is we just don't get reasonably priced legal services here.

AviD

@TerryChia really? I heard that over there it is just the price of a massage, and perfectly legal.

Terry Chia

09:47

@AviD Not those services...

AviD

Or did you mean the lawyers are expensive....?

Terry Chia

Wrt to this question: security.stackexchange.com/questions/47253/…

I know we shouldn't encourage them, but can it be preserved somehow since it has a good answer?

AviD

I'll take your word for it, it is way too TL;DR for me.

however I am not pleased with the close reasons - he's not trying to break a system, its been broken, he's just rying to understand it.

Terry Chia

@AviD I miss TL. :(

AviD

yeah.

Lucas Kauffman

09:53

finally wrote my first iOS app

@TerryChia TL?

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Too Localized

Lucas Kauffman

ah

rep capped

Terry Chia

@TerryChia That's the only reason? — Ally 54 secs ago

Wtf??????

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop choooooo chooooo

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