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Avi
8:00 PM
the puzzler is a metaphor for our souls
which have been crushed
 
are you ok
 
Avi
by this CCCC
 
uh anyway c4
 
Avi
ya I'm fine
but this one is quite hard
 
Ohhhhhhh
Wait I'm dumb
A "shoe account" is an alternate account right?
wait no
 
8:02 PM
umm
 
That's a sock account
Hmph
 
yeah
 
Avi
sock-puppet
 
this room is quite active today
 
Avi
blame the shoe
 
8:04 PM
"To perform by turns, or in succession; to cause to succeed by turns; to interchange regularly."
Shoe takes alternative steps on the floor
My brain is shutting down
 
in 22h the first hint is going to be like "the last word is not 'family'" and it's back to square one
 
Avi
lmao
if that happens
RIZ OF THE SSSITH
actually no
 
Smash hits: Star Wars, Dark Knight (4) -> SITH: the first CC that I ever solved :)
 
Avi
very clever clue
 
nice
 
8:11 PM
Shoe on floor--> altitude?
I mean...
"the height of an object or point in relation to sea level or ground level."
 
Avi
Doctor Who's production (4)
 
@NorthLæraðr i don't see it
 
@jafe Like shoe on floor level idk
 
Avi
i don't see anything
 
what did i miss?
 
8:13 PM
shoe on ground
sog
alt
tread
i'm losing my mind
 
sog (v.): to soak, steep or saturate
@NorthLæraðr noooo
open letter to msh210

this
is
hard
 
Agreed
 
maybe wiretapper's is a partial homophone indicator?
 
how?
 
The worst part is I have a decent clue ive thought of which never happens but I have no idea how to solve this one :P
 
8:16 PM
@bobble positively gleeful
 
@jafe Hm how?
 
@msh210 you're funny
 
like if you say bough on the line and the wiretapper might take it as bow
 
still doesnt make sense
 
8:17 PM
ohhh now i get it
bough, bow /bou/
 
okay...
shoe--->?
shoo?
 
@matt thanks
 
floor-->phloor?
 
@NorthLæraðr yes shoo
@NorthLæraðr google thinks it is "flaw" but i am not british
 
@matt doubt it
tool---> tule
 
8:19 PM
hmmm
 
no anagrams, no deletions
 
aight guys, be back in a few hrs probably
let me know what happens
 
Avi
the poker thing looks very very promising to me
 
Avi
but you put cards in a shoe
ALL IN?
all the cards
A dealing shoe or dealer's shoe is a gaming device, mainly used in casinos, to hold multiple decks of playing cards. The shoe allows for more games to be played by reducing the time between shuffles and less chance of dealer cheating. In some games, such as blackjack (where card counting is a possibility), using multiple decks of cards can increase the house edge. == History == Prior to 1961 in Las Vegas casinos, all blackjack was being dealt from a single deck. John Scarne proposed to the Nevada Gaming Control Board that a state ruling be enacted such that Blackjack must be dealt from a shoe...
 
8:21 PM
you're left with T and wiretapper
 
Avi
T = tool?
 
or wiretapper's tool
 
Avi
ya
 
how does t comes after shoe
and there's also floor
 
Avi
the wiretapper is the problem
shoe on floor could just be a shoe
well
what does a wiretapper hear in a casino
 
8:22 PM
C4 hint: None of you have correctly said any part of the definition or wordplay.
Just kidding.
 
Avi
was about to throw my shoe
 
ALL and INT
wiretapper's tool ---> int?
but stuck in shoe on floor idk
BRUH\
 
what's an int
 
Avi
integer
 
intelligence
Oh
wiretapper stool?
 
Avi
8:25 PM
that sounds illegal, and disgusting
 
i think the first two words are just that msh210 knows he's being listened to on the line and he's letting the wiretapper know they're a tool
 
Can shoe be sock?
idk alt for alternative
nah
 
Avi
in shoe, on floor = LINT
 
but AL
UGH
 
wouldn't in be part of the indicator though?
 
Avi
8:28 PM
"A LINT"
pronounce
ALLINT
 
tool?
 
Avi
idk
 
tool is just there to make it a little harder
 
Avi
/me throws lint at setter
there
it's a tool now
weapon of disgust
 
it's now been >3 hours of sustained attack on this clue
 
8:30 PM
@Avi ew
 
wiretapper's tool --> A LINE
AL+LINT
 
Avi
@msh210 indeed
 
That's my answer
AL + LINT HEFAMILY
 
Avi
how does a line -> AL
 
Line-->L
 
8:31 PM
L is an abbreviation for line
 
Avi
seems indirect
 
yes it is :P
 
@NorthLæraðr not what I intended
 
Avi
36 mins ago, by Avi
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RIP North is down, I'm down
jafe save yourself this shoe is too powerful
 
8:36 PM
looks that way
 
Seems like we may be reliant on deus or gareth here :P
 
let's ping them @Deusovi, @GarethMcCaughan, HELP US PLEASE
 
hm?
 
the CCCC
we all stuck on how to get ALLINT
 
how does the definition work?
 
8:45 PM
54 mins ago, by Avi
"get a peek into a white supremacist's home life with it" is probably the definition part of the clue
54 mins ago, by Avi
with the actual definition being the American sitcom named ALL IN THE FAMILY
 
oh, just looked it up, and apparently the main character is very prejudiced
 
so now you can use your magical CC powers to figure out the last bit of wordplay?
 
not immediately seeing anything
 
but your magical powers!
 
ah got it
"tool stuck in shoe" = AWL; "wiretapper's" = homophone indicator
"floor" = INT, as in the rounding function
and then the rest just works how you described
 
8:51 PM
@msh210, Deus got it with his magical powers
 
@Deusovi Wait, AWL?
 
an awl is a tool used for piercing leather
 
AWLINTHEFAMILY?
 
> "wiretapper's" = homophone indicator
 
ohhh
So
AWL-->ALL
 
8:53 PM
ALL ("awl") + INT + HEFAMILY inits.
 
Damn Deus
that's...wow
I can't believe Deus solved that in like what 15 minutes?
Something that we couldn't do in 3 hours with four people
Five
 
you all had most of it already parsed
I just finished it off
 
Me, Avi, Bobble, Gerbil, Jafe
So Avi got the def
Gerbil got like 90% of the wordplay
 
i sat here lookin' good
 
I sat here Googling useless terms :)
 
8:56 PM
I have a CC ready if noone else does
I dont expect it to last long but I'm confident its valid at the very least :P
 
I have a funny CC ready as well
mine is overly complicated in the service of a funny def-answer combo
 
Avi said he doesn't want it before so...
I think it's fair that Gerbil gets it
Unless @Avi wants to fight and contest it
 
Do we need to wait for msh210's confirmation?
 
Don't expect it to last that long but I can try
 
Go ahead
 
8:58 PM
I think the fact that Deus got it means its right tbh :P
 
don't think it's necessary to wait
 
CCCC: Heroine farm (5)
 
GRANGE
nope
 
(thats six letters :P)
 
yeah
CROFT
Lara Croft, tomb raider
Croft is a synonym for farm
 
9:00 PM
makes sense
 
Correct, thought it wouldnt last long but liked the surface
 
Kind of
 
do you have one ready?
 
not rn but i gotta do something stuff
@bobble you can post one if you want ig
though I do want to make one but like
idk
 
busy
 
9:01 PM
Ok nvm then I'll make mine in some time
 
Theres no particular rush, just as long as its not too long :)
 
oh uh... wow Dues
*Deus
 
Avi
well
at least that's gone and done with
 
9:29 PM
@Deusovi thank you!!
 
Avi
TIL that awls are used for shoes
 
I'm un-busy, should I post my clue now @NorthLæraðr? Or do you still want it?
 
@bobble I was working on one, but I gotta go anyways, so you can take it
 
CCCC: Alicorn Magazine: essential articles & beheaded baby! Cow telling fake news with a laugh! Everything about the early signs of hags, ogres, ragamuffins, and work! (It deteriorated, unopened, in the end.) (7, 6, 5, 4, 1, 4)
there's a lot of components in the wordplay here :)
 
Avi
9:55 PM
but why
 
why what?
the wordplay is fair, it's just a complicated sort of fair
 
Avi
beheading babies
we only eat them
 
beheaded baby. only 1 is beheaded
 
Avi
1 is one too many
 
and what, eating them alive is more humane?
 
Avi
10:01 PM
I didn't say they had to be alive
just whole
looking like _C_ _AZ_ + (articles) + ABY + some other things?
 
have you figured out what the def is?
 
Avi
no
hence, trying to observe parts of wordplay
until something pops out at me
essential articles is a little stretchy
 
do you like the surface?
 
Avi
if going for alicORn magazINe
it's a little awk but it works i guess
especially since magazine has mAgAzINe
and if the first word was RAINBOW
that would be trouble
 
no comment, obviously
 
Avi
10:12 PM
yeah
think I'll leave this one to deusovi as well lol
oh and Alconja
have at it
 
11:12 PM
Alicornja?
 
11:36 PM
alicornja: the mythical creature who prances around Puzzling
 

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