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Avi
Avi
20:00
the puzzler is a metaphor for our souls
which have been crushed
are you ok
Avi
Avi
by this CCCC
uh anyway c4
Avi
Avi
ya I'm fine
but this one is quite hard
Ohhhhhhh
Wait I'm dumb
A "shoe account" is an alternate account right?
wait no
20:02
umm
That's a sock account
Hmph
yeah
Avi
Avi
sock-puppet
this room is quite active today
Avi
Avi
blame the shoe
20:04
"To perform by turns, or in succession; to cause to succeed by turns; to interchange regularly."
Shoe takes alternative steps on the floor
My brain is shutting down
in 22h the first hint is going to be like "the last word is not 'family'" and it's back to square one
Avi
Avi
lmao
if that happens
RIZ OF THE SSSITH
actually no
Smash hits: Star Wars, Dark Knight (4) -> SITH: the first CC that I ever solved :)
Avi
Avi
very clever clue
nice
20:11
Shoe on floor--> altitude?
I mean...
"the height of an object or point in relation to sea level or ground level."
Avi
Avi
Doctor Who's production (4)
@NorthLæraðr i don't see it
@jafe Like shoe on floor level idk
Avi
Avi
i don't see anything
what did i miss?
20:13
shoe on ground
sog
alt
tread
i'm losing my mind
sog (v.): to soak, steep or saturate
@NorthLæraðr noooo
open letter to msh210

this
is
hard
maybe wiretapper's is a partial homophone indicator?
how?
The worst part is I have a decent clue ive thought of which never happens but I have no idea how to solve this one :P
20:16
@bobble positively gleeful
@jafe Hm how?
@msh210 you're funny
like if you say bough on the line and the wiretapper might take it as bow
still doesnt make sense
20:17
ohhh now i get it
bough, bow /bou/
okay...
shoe--->?
shoo?
@matt thanks
floor-->phloor?
@NorthLæraðr yes shoo
@NorthLæraðr google thinks it is "flaw" but i am not british
@matt doubt it
tool---> tule
20:19
hmmm
no anagrams, no deletions
aight guys, be back in a few hrs probably
let me know what happens
Avi
Avi
the poker thing looks very very promising to me
Avi
Avi
but you put cards in a shoe
ALL IN?
all the cards
A dealing shoe or dealer's shoe is a gaming device, mainly used in casinos, to hold multiple decks of playing cards. The shoe allows for more games to be played by reducing the time between shuffles and less chance of dealer cheating. In some games, such as blackjack (where card counting is a possibility), using multiple decks of cards can increase the house edge. == History == Prior to 1961 in Las Vegas casinos, all blackjack was being dealt from a single deck. John Scarne proposed to the Nevada Gaming Control Board that a state ruling be enacted such that Blackjack must be dealt from a shoe...
20:21
you're left with T and wiretapper
Avi
Avi
T = tool?
or wiretapper's tool
Avi
Avi
ya
how does t comes after shoe
and there's also floor
Avi
Avi
the wiretapper is the problem
shoe on floor could just be a shoe
well
what does a wiretapper hear in a casino
20:22
C4 hint: None of you have correctly said any part of the definition or wordplay.
Just kidding.
Avi
Avi
was about to throw my shoe
ALL and INT
wiretapper's tool ---> int?
but stuck in shoe on floor idk
BRUH\
what's an int
Avi
Avi
integer
intelligence
Oh
wiretapper stool?
Avi
Avi
20:25
that sounds illegal, and disgusting
i think the first two words are just that msh210 knows he's being listened to on the line and he's letting the wiretapper know they're a tool
Can shoe be sock?
idk alt for alternative
nah
Avi
Avi
in shoe, on floor = LINT
but AL
UGH
wouldn't in be part of the indicator though?
Avi
Avi
20:28
"A LINT"
pronounce
ALLINT
Avi
Avi
idk
tool is just there to make it a little harder
Avi
Avi
/me throws lint at setter
there
it's a tool now
weapon of disgust
it's now been >3 hours of sustained attack on this clue
20:30
@Avi ew
wiretapper's tool --> A LINE
AL+LINT
Avi
Avi
@msh210 indeed
That's my answer
AL + LINT HEFAMILY
Avi
Avi
how does a line -> AL
Line-->L
20:31
L is an abbreviation for line
Avi
Avi
seems indirect
yes it is :P
@NorthLæraðr not what I intended
Avi
Avi
36 mins ago, by Avi
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RIP North is down, I'm down
jafe save yourself this shoe is too powerful
20:36
looks that way
Seems like we may be reliant on deus or gareth here :P
let's ping them @Deusovi, @GarethMcCaughan, HELP US PLEASE
the CCCC
we all stuck on how to get ALLINT
how does the definition work?
20:45
54 mins ago, by Avi
"get a peek into a white supremacist's home life with it" is probably the definition part of the clue
54 mins ago, by Avi
with the actual definition being the American sitcom named ALL IN THE FAMILY
oh, just looked it up, and apparently the main character is very prejudiced
so now you can use your magical CC powers to figure out the last bit of wordplay?
not immediately seeing anything
but your magical powers!
ah got it
"tool stuck in shoe" = AWL; "wiretapper's" = homophone indicator
"floor" = INT, as in the rounding function
and then the rest just works how you described
20:51
@msh210, Deus got it with his magical powers
@Deusovi Wait, AWL?
an awl is a tool used for piercing leather
AWLINTHEFAMILY?
> "wiretapper's" = homophone indicator
ohhh
So
AWL-->ALL
20:53
ALL ("awl") + INT + HEFAMILY inits.
Damn Deus
that's...wow
I can't believe Deus solved that in like what 15 minutes?
Something that we couldn't do in 3 hours with four people
Five
you all had most of it already parsed
I just finished it off
Me, Avi, Bobble, Gerbil, Jafe
So Avi got the def
Gerbil got like 90% of the wordplay
i sat here lookin' good
I sat here Googling useless terms :)
20:56
I have a CC ready if noone else does
I dont expect it to last long but I'm confident its valid at the very least :P
I have a funny CC ready as well
mine is overly complicated in the service of a funny def-answer combo
Avi said he doesn't want it before so...
I think it's fair that Gerbil gets it
Unless @Avi wants to fight and contest it
Do we need to wait for msh210's confirmation?
Don't expect it to last that long but I can try
Go ahead
20:58
I think the fact that Deus got it means its right tbh :P
don't think it's necessary to wait
CCCC: Heroine farm (5)
GRANGE
nope
(thats six letters :P)
yeah
CROFT
Lara Croft, tomb raider
Croft is a synonym for farm
21:00
makes sense
Correct, thought it wouldnt last long but liked the surface
do you have one ready?
not rn but i gotta do something stuff
@bobble you can post one if you want ig
though I do want to make one but like
idk
busy
21:01
Ok nvm then I'll make mine in some time
Theres no particular rush, just as long as its not too long :)
oh uh... wow Dues
*Deus
Avi
Avi
well
at least that's gone and done with
21:29
@Deusovi thank you!!
Avi
Avi
TIL that awls are used for shoes
I'm un-busy, should I post my clue now @NorthLæraðr? Or do you still want it?
@bobble I was working on one, but I gotta go anyways, so you can take it
CCCC: Alicorn Magazine: essential articles & beheaded baby! Cow telling fake news with a laugh! Everything about the early signs of hags, ogres, ragamuffins, and work! (It deteriorated, unopened, in the end.) (7, 6, 5, 4, 1, 4)
there's a lot of components in the wordplay here :)
Avi
Avi
21:55
but why
why what?
the wordplay is fair, it's just a complicated sort of fair
Avi
Avi
beheading babies
we only eat them
beheaded baby. only 1 is beheaded
Avi
Avi
1 is one too many
and what, eating them alive is more humane?
Avi
Avi
22:01
I didn't say they had to be alive
just whole
looking like _C_ _AZ_ + (articles) + ABY + some other things?
have you figured out what the def is?
Avi
Avi
no
hence, trying to observe parts of wordplay
until something pops out at me
essential articles is a little stretchy
do you like the surface?
Avi
Avi
if going for alicORn magazINe
it's a little awk but it works i guess
especially since magazine has mAgAzINe
and if the first word was RAINBOW
that would be trouble
no comment, obviously
Avi
Avi
22:12
yeah
think I'll leave this one to deusovi as well lol
oh and Alconja
have at it
23:12
Alicornja?
23:36
alicornja: the mythical creature who prances around Puzzling

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