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4:00 PM
Don't like spiral sauce?
 
They sent us a coupon in the mail for a free large cheese pizza for eat in, delivery or take out, no strings
I called
they said oh we're not delivering that any more too many people want it
well no shit you gave away a free fucking pizza you dick head
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so i told him i wanted wings and a soda too and asked if theyd deliver then
 
LOL
while supplies last
"How do supplies of pizza run out at a pizza place?!"
 
so they did, but he never subtracted the coupon, charged my credit card the full amount and it was literally room temperature
i told them if they didnt fix the charge id just dispute the whole thing with Amex
 
ah, that sucks.
 
After i put the room temp pizza in the oven for a bit it was good
but no way am I ordering from there again
 
4:01 PM
yeah, their sauce is super sweet
 
Yeah, I liked it
 
@ChrisS Awesome, that works great. Is there a specific email format it's expecting? For instance, can I export something from MS Outlook as-is?
 
@Incognito It's expecting the raw ascii; in Outlook you can do a Save As on an e-mail and select "text" as the file type.
Outlook doesn't export the full headers; so it wont have any of the SMTP headers in it though, so be warned that SA will 1. Not be particularly happy, though that doesn't raise the score much 2. Headers can trip tests that might raise the score, so not having them will not run those tests... If the message was sent through SMTP you can view the headers of the e-mail and put them in the text manually.
Also, after you're done installing SA, make sure to run sa-update on a somewhat regular basis to keep the rules updated.
Having open rules allows spammers craft e-mails to avoid the rules; so the rules change from time to time to keep up.
 
@ChrisS Excellent. Thank you very much.
 
Also, some people mess with the reputation rules. For instance, the only rule changes I have on my servers are: 1. If you have a SPF rule on your domain or if the e-mail is DKIM signed then +5. 2. If your e-mail passes the SPF or DKIM test then -10
I need to futz with the rule for DKIM domain policy... not sure if SA even looks it up by default.
Should probably also get a rule in there for DNSSEC...
I'll put those on my TODO list right next to graylisting.
 
4:16 PM
amusing, we're having a discussion about DKIM here in one of the internal dev rooms
 
I don't currently use it, but it's on my list of things to implement. I do have SA checking DKIM on inbound e-mails if it's there.
I don't think very many mail servers, except the really big ones, check it...
 
Dan
Excuse the spam: Brian Madden posts:

BrianMadden.com
According to what people write on LinkedIn, 10287 people have VDI skills. That's like 10 peeps per implementation! http://t.co/eUjKEUj9
Just another reason to ignore LinkedIn
 
Dan
Didn't we have her this morning?
 
I thought so too
 
Dan
4:23 PM
Cheeky cow
 
4:34 PM
hello everybody! little request... could somebody please create a gunicorn ( gunicorn.org ) tag? I think it would be very useful!
 
Is 23 questions containing gunicorn enough for a tag?
 
waits for something spectacular to happen
 
@growse one question is
@Stefano done
 
@Iain Fair enough
 
@iain thanks!\
that was quick!
 
4:37 PM
@Stefano he's secretly a ninja
 
I think that's the 1st tag I created so now I have a slim chance of a new badge at some point
@Stefano easy things are quick
 
LOL @ both of you
 
@Stefano as you know something about it please write the tag wiki and it's excerpt
 
@iain fair enough, doing so!
 
4:56 PM
Hellow, lurvely people - and @ScottPack.
 
@WesleyDavid qock
 
@Zypher's here, everbody scatter!
 
haha, how long before I am as universally feared!?
 
@PeterGrace no ♦ no fear
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5:17 PM
@PeterGrace fear? THERE IS NO FEAR
@Iain I used to fear ♦, until I took an arrow to the knee.
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Fear what? You can't be any worse than my ex-wife.
 
@Shads0 :) I must get that game - will my GeForce 8400GS be good enough ?
 
@Iain probably not because my 8800 barely likes it
which is another reason that I can't wait for my x-mas bonus, gonna get me a rig with a 580 >=D
 
:(
 
@Iain You really want to play this game at peak graphics performance anyway, its effin beautiful
Xbox alone looks decent, but looking at it on PC with at least High settings blows it out of the water
I almost can't play my xbox copy anymore because I got spoiled by it
 
5:32 PM
ah the sad trombone of the end of a console era with nor replacement in sight :)
 
Don't get me started how a machine running OS/2 could probably outperform today's consoles
:)
 
^ Saw that at the top of my facebook feed when I got back to my desk from lunch. Thought I'd share.
 
Imagine my surprise when I pull into the driveway for lunch and see, in my front lawn, a bush with tits all about it.
Damn things flew away before I could take a picture.
 
WOOHOO FUCK YOU SELINUX I FUCKING WIN
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... you may continue you conversation now ...
 
So what were you doing wrong?
 
5:42 PM
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A: CentOS 6 kickstart ignoring 'selinux --disabled'

valpaYou may need to try kickstart GUI tools to generate one, and check selinux item inside.

had to turn selinux off before the installer booted
 
Woah, wtf. I see offensive flags in chat now?
 
@Ia
@Iain I don't know about you, but I did get a Tag Editor badge ;-)
 
 
@ScottPack you broke 10k
 
@Zypher So 10k system wide is all it takes for seeing the flags in all chat rooms?
 
5:44 PM
ja
 
@ScottPack With great rep comes great annoyance
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So does this mean that I can ban @WesleyDavid now?
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@ScottPack sadly not :P
 
Then wtf's the point?
 
5:48 PM
@MarkM That is fantastic
 
@Iain If we flag enough of his posts, one will eventually get to @ScottPack for review.
 
@MarkM interesting idea
 
It shouldn't be too hard to find one of his that's offensive, and by one, I mean all of them.
 
@ScottPack It doesn't even have to be
You have the power to vote!
 
@MarkM outside of this room most of them would probably be flagworthy too
 
5:49 PM
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder, and for some awful reason, that's you now!
 
@MarkM Strictly speaking, sure. But if you're going to string someone up, you might as well pick a valid reason instead of a random one. Looks better in the history books.
 
@MarkM It's interesting to note that the m.SO post on chat flags has gone nowhere as well
 
History is written by the victors. Now are you a winner or a loser?
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@MarkM I only have two eyes and don't float. Sorry.
@MarkM My primary job role lies in the realm of risk management. I don't like to leave things to chance. :)
 
@Stefano great, the badge that I may get is taxonomist but it'll likely take a while if ever
@Shads0 what would be a low to mid range nvidia card for playing Skyrim then ?
 
5:55 PM
Can someone who follows me on twitter let me know if my tweet to @plragde that starts with ".@plragde Pretty sure" shows up in your normal timeline (22min ago)?
 
@MikeyB Not in my normal timeline but when I look at your tweets I see it
 
@MikeyB it should. Am I following you?
 
@MikeyB Same results as @MarkM -- I'm using twitterific/iPhone. Not in my timeline, but I see it in your feed.
 
@voretaq7 You're not following me :)
 
@MikeyB well... we should fix that.
 
6:08 PM
@jscott Dammit. I thought it was the leading '@username' and not the reply context that hid tweets from other feeds.
 
@jscott that's how it used to work.
then twitter made it "better"
 
@voretaq7 Fucking twitter.
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The BBB of MI has a message at the bottom of their official newsletters (e-mails) basically ripping ICANN a new one over their new TLDs. Nice to see more or less non-technical people get it too.
 
@jscott I see that a lot with iPhone users. Their @ replies lead with a '.'
 
I'm a sick, sick puppy indeed but there's a post on reddit right now about a dude who watched just about every 'shock site' video there is and comments on them - don't look at it, it'll damage you
 
6:20 PM
damnit @Chopper3 i would probably have glanced past that one , but you ahd to mention it
 
@Holocryptic And that used to be useful for injecting a reply that people wouldn't normally see into people's timelines. Argh argh argh, it's time to seriously look at identica clients :p
 
don't do it, it's vile
 
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Q: Debian MD software nested RAID0+1 autoassemble issues

SergeI'm starting out with software RAID on Linux and hit a roadblock when using a nested RAID schema. I have three small disks that I'm RAID0ing, and then RAID1ing with a partition on another larger HDD. In effect, this leads to a RAID0+1 scheme, with a RAID1 of a physical partition and a RAID0 parti...

I almost knocked myself unconscious from facepalming
 
@MikeyB ah, I see. I was wondering if that was a bug or a feature. That's one of the things I don't like about mobile TweetDeck. I can't see @ replies to people I'm not following. I can on the PC version though
 
@Holocryptic Can you see if that particular tweet shows up on the website?
@MarkM It's not that bad… OK it's ugly, but it's not facepalm bad.
 
6:27 PM
@MikeyB Come on now. It's pretty bad
 
@MikeyB looking now...
 
Evening bitchies
 
@MikeyB on the web I don't see it in my main timeline
@BartDeVos wenches
@MarkM Would that be a better fit on U&L?
 
Winches.
 
@Holocryptic I don't think anyone in their right mind has a reason to run disks that way
 
6:33 PM
 
Those too. I never was able to get one for my Jeep before I had to get rid of it
back in a bit
Those things are like 3k or more...
 
@Holocryptic I flagged it for migration... but that didn't happen apparently.
 
Anyone want some SU rep? ;)
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Q: Sync iCloud bookmarks with Firefox in Windows

MarkMI have four devices that I want to sync my bookmarks across: a Mac Mini, a Macbook Air, an iPad2, and a Windows 7 PC. I use Safari on the three Apple products and Firefox 8 on the Windows 7 PC. I use iCloud to sync my bookmarks with the three Apple devices, but this obviously leaves my Windows P...

 
Put your wench on a bench. Benches love wenches.
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@MarkM Tried it too, failed
 
6:43 PM
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Q: Enterprise class storage costs: $10k/TB. Are we paying too much?

KirkThe infrastructure team at my company charges $10,000 per TB for storage costs. They charge this to us (internal) when we have new projects and need more disk. Are we paying too much? Obviously a broad question, but please help out if you can. They claim we get 200,000-300,000 IOPS with respons...

I wish I still had close votes
 
@MarkM Only got it to work with IE/safari on Windows...
 
I was hoping there would be an addon or something
that would automatically export and import them to the IE bookmark store so that it looks like it's actually firefox native syncing but uses IE in the background
 
@MarkM Is it just me or is that freaking expensive. We pay 0.23 EUR/GB in our shared env.
 
though, I suppose IE would have to be running for that to work
 
@Iain price range? (sorry, lunch break)
 
6:44 PM
@BartDeVos I mean. yeah it's expensive but he has a huge IOPS number
Could be all SSD
 
@Shads0 no idea that's what I'm trying to find out
 
@MarkM True
 
Plus they could be associating other costs with it, like the cost of the shelf, HBAs, etc
 
Reccommended is at least a gtx260
 
A couple of good FC HBAs is going to put a big dent in that 10k
 
6:46 PM
The mid-grade 500 series is less than $200 which should run it at least medium just fine
 
Damn you guys for closing it - I was writing an answer :p
 
haha
 
@MarkM We're paying around $2-2.5k/TB, so he's almost 5x higher, but those IOps are impressive.
 
/drool
 
@MikeyB, setup xmarks and leave IE running in the background?
 
6:50 PM
@ChrisS "up to 200K-300K IOPs and as low as 0.03ms response time" Yeah, whatever. Let me introduce you to my "up to 90% off" sale.
 
The IOPS look like the FusionIO numbers...
 
@Shads0 ooooooooo
 
@Zoredache Would make more sense :)
 
@Shads0 That's sickening.
 
damn. Wish I had that kind of throughput.
 
6:51 PM
whats great about it (and most higher end cards now) when it starts to age, just buy a second one for cheaper than it is now, pop an SLI bridge on it and boom, sexy again
@MikeyB that plus a i72600k, gonna see if I can't keep the clock at 5.2 =3
At the very least, 4.4
 
@MikeyB I don't think I could get 200K IOps out of my SAN no matter how I fudge the testing...
 
Ugh. Problem ticket we just got in:
"The first one I set was working well, I installed SSH, and LAMP. When users started working on it, ssh went flickery preventing users to do their work remotely, including myself as administrator."
 
@MikeyB Ha ha
 
"I locked out the administrator account. Can u haz halp mee?"
 
@Holocryptic NO
 
7:03 PM
Swing and miss: serverfault.com/a/340942/3139 -- "I ran one mail delivery process per core"... yeah, so they mostly sat idle.
 
@Shads0 I usually point out that bribery is required to ensure my future silence concerning their mistake.
 
@AdrianK I'll take the bribe, but I'll still say no
 
I can't be that mean to my users. They're social workers and most are fundamentally good people. The ones that aren't get the BOFH routine though.
 
@JeffFerland ...
 
The 10k/TB guy is getting a bit indignant in the comments
He went to the whole "well google uses cheap disks, I guess they're dumb" route
Fucking people.
 
7:13 PM
@MarkM Lock the Q
 
@JeffFerland I've got no such power
 
@MarkM No, but the suggestion might be picked up by a diamond.
 
I wonder if he expects the other department to provide his said service with no overhead. We don't exactly work solely for the honor of serving...
 
Our underpinning contracts are pretty sharp I must say
 
7:29 PM
@ChrisS Meh, I can get 30K IOPS on a single LUN out of my shitty Engenio on 2Gbps fabric. I'm sure decent hardware could do better.
@JeffFerland Way to do the research… or not.
See that, bitch? That's how you research something.
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@MikeyB Add it as an answer and I'll upvote it...
 
@JeffFerland Strictly speaking, I probably can't :)
 
7:45 PM
@MikeyB Por Quois?
 
pour :)
 
@BartDeVos qhatever :P
 
@voretaq7 "Private research" and all. Hey, I gave him the 80 mails/sec*core*GHz number, that'll do him.
 
I'm lucky I got the letters in the right order for quois with my 1 year of French :P
@MikeyB INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE! RELEASE THE GNUS!
 
@MikeyB Oi... I just got raked for not running my own benchmarks on a full server-server test when answering a StackExchange question?
 
7:48 PM
@JeffFerland Not you, the asker :p
 
Oooohhhhh....
 
@MikeyB @JeffFerland too - c'mon, doesn't everyone have a lab with 100 64-core machines to test in?
:-P
 
I should write you guys a blog on "how to benchmark"... i've seen too questions that need a link to that.
 
@BartDeVos lol@HTTP/429
the one for conflict is great too.
 
:rummages for HTTP/402 image:
 
@voretaq7 I was linking to the whole set :p
 
Now THAT'S a HTTP/402 image.
 
@voretaq7 nice
 
@voretaq7 Thanks for hotlinking to my blog.
Reminds me, I need to make a wildly inappropriate hotlinking swapout image for my sites.
I'm thinking photoshop + hotmale.com == WINNING!
 
8:02 PM
@WesleyDavid mrr?
I only ever thieve images for here and occasionally twitter - I'm very polite about not stealing bandwidth
Also I may still have my hotlinking PHP script somewhere
(it turns it into an animated image with "THIEF! THIEF! THIEF!" flashing in random spots)
also how the hell did @WesleyDavid become the top google image hit for "Jesse James pay up sucker tattoo"?
::eyes kitty warily::
 
@voretaq7 Because I taught that punk everything he knows about collecting debts.
@voretaq7 BTW, I'm a hotlinking arch criminal. I do it all the time. For the lulz.
 
@WesleyDavid from my understanding West Coast Choppers was a fiscal disaster -- You may need to give him a few more lessons :)
 
@voretaq7 I taught him how to collect debt, but sadly he didn't ask for lessons on pricing and scaling.
 
@WesleyDavid nice... when you do develop that, pass it along to the $10k/tb asker.
 
@WesleyDavid I've seen his parts prices - if he were collecting he wouldn't have financial problems.
 
8:09 PM
any crossfitters in here?
 
@voretaq7 And this is why I come up high on the list for Jesse Jame's pay up sucker tattoo: thenubbyadmin.com/2010/06/04/…
That and I knows mah SEOs
 
laugh your ass off here, either way: forgingelitesarcasm.com
 
@SpacemanSpiff Yeah, @ScottPack can help you. Wait, crossfitters? Sorry, thought you said crossdressers.
 
@WesleyDavid It's called a kilt you cheese licking surrender pussy!
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@ScottPack Cunt butler.
 
8:10 PM
@WesleyDavid but you don't mention "jesse james" or "tattoo" anywhere in the article...
what did you do to google?
 
@voretaq7 that's why my SEOs are superior.
You know, on the topic of crossdressing, I did have a fascination with rupaul when I was growing up. Maybe if this whole "IT Thing" doesn't work out I can give that a try.
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I already know more about heels than any of my prior girlfriends or current girls-who-are-friends. Is that normal?
 
I was always kind of partial to Roy Rogers myself
 
Wonder what Rupaul is up to these days.
 
About 6'4"?
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@ScottPack Nice
 
8:13 PM
Bear with me here, I'm about to get crazy. From a user experience side IE9 isn't the worst thing I've ever used.
 
@ScottPack I would say 6'8" at least
 
@MarkM WHAAAAAATTTTTT?!????!???!??????????????
 
Oh wait, flatfooted or with stripper heels on?
 
@WesleyDavid As far as I'm concerned, anything over 5'11" is freakishly tall, so it doesn't matter.
 
8:14 PM
@MarkM But is it worth the op cost?
 
@Jacob I'm giving it a shot since I can't sync icloud bookmarks with FF or chrome
 
@MarkM IE hasn't been bad since version 8. 9 is a nice improvement. They're actually jumping on the standards bandwagon.
 
@MarkM FILTHY HEATHEN!
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angrybirds.chrome.com still works in IE9, so
 
@Iain How is that not an exact dupe?
 
8:15 PM
It passed my usability test
 
@MarkM In life, Angry Birds are all that really matter.
 
Suck it, @WesleyDavid!
They got my height wrong, though - I'm actually 6'4"
 
@ScottPack I bet you conspired with him.
 
@WesleyDavid her
 
@MarkM He's not trans. Just crossdressing.
 
8:17 PM
@ScottPack different piece of equipment mentioned in each post. The question I have, is the solution different, why couldn't he have just summarized both in a single question/answer
 
@Zoredache I just realized the transceivers were different, yeah. You're probably right, though. Likely the same problem and same fix.
 
he says not
can easily be closed again
 
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Q: Adding the IP Failover on FreeBSD

CycloneI've just bought a dedicated server in OVH.com and they are sending me some warnings in email that I haven't configured my IP Failover address correctly. So, the question is, how should IP Failover be configured properly in FreeBSD 8.2?

 
@Zoredache I have to say, you have the least confrontation way out of all ServerFault denizens. of saying "Your question is crappy."
 
"Q: How do I configure failover" -- "A: Why can't people ask good questions"?
 
8:21 PM
Hey @WesleyDavid, I have a question if you've got a moment.
 
@ScottPack The answer is ponies. It's always ponies.
 
@WesleyDavid, I do try to be helpful, when someone asks why their question was closed. I am sure you could find comments where I have been a bit more harsh then I needed to be.
 
@WesleyDavid WHY THE FUCK ARE MY CROPS STILL WITHERED?!!!?!?!?ONE!!
 
@WesleyDavid I've been saying that for months
 
@voretaq7 This is why I don't usually advocate FreeBSD to business people. Because people without a fricking clue will buy in, try it, not understand, then proceed to slander the OS when they can't figure it out...
 
8:22 PM
@ScottPack Because digital chocolate has yet to fix my problem of not being able to visit neighbors.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
mmm... digital chocolate...
 
@ChrisS That is why I advocate hiring competent sysadmins :-)
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I fucking love the Internet
 
@WesleyDavid Is that anything like Chocolate Rain?
 
8:23 PM
@ChrisS FreeBSD's support contracts also have a strange tendency to require blood and an understanding of runes to make binding.
 
I'm taking a course over the next month and Google Books has the book
 
@voretaq7 Yeah? And how often does that go over well?
 
@MarkM You like IE9. Your argument is invalid
 
Fuck yeah not paying $50 for a text book
 
@Holocryptic Do some stay dry while others feel the pain?
 
8:23 PM
:(
 
@ChrisS 90% of the companies I'VE worked for have been perfectly satisfied with their BSD infrastructures :-)
 
@WesleyDavid The who what?
 
@Shads0 I'm in pain right now...
 
(the remainder switched to Windows, and are just as dissatisfied with that.)
 
@Holocryptic Chop it off, duh
 
8:24 PM
@Holocryptic I always thought "chocolate rain" was code for some kind of feces fetish.
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@voretaq7 Same here so long as competent people are around.
 
@ChrisS FreeBSD support companies are mystical to work with methinks.
 
@Shads0 Well, seeing it's not getting much use right now. Although it's still higher up. Haven't hit the final run yet
 
@ScottPack Fun fact (that I discovered when some counterfeit Cisco SFPs got into our supply chain): the SFP validation code on the Nexus switches apparently depends on the particular slot and whether it's validating the SFP during boot or during normal operation.
 
Thought it was gettting a lazor fired at it?
 
8:25 PM
@WesleyDavid FreeBSD support companies are there to support a competent admin staff. Very few exist that will be your IT department the way (e.g.) RedHat tries to.
 
@MikeyB That sounds.....less than ideal
 
@WesleyDavid I guess I don't know what experiences you've had... I've only had two types, those who are easy going, laid back, and generally great to work with; and those who claim to know what they're doing, but don't, they tend to be harder to work with (and usually end up recommending switching to something different; ie something they actually know instead of just claiming that they know).
 
@voretaq7 If by competent you mean "Are you on this list: freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/contributors/… and if not ESAD" then I agree
 
@WesleyDavid I'm not on that list, but I consider myself quite competent.
 
@voretaq7 ESAD
:P
 
8:27 PM
@WesleyDavid I worked for an ISP. I ESAS'd
 
@voretaq7 Oooo, kewl. Always thought it would be neat to work for an ISP. Then again, I do have a self-loathing streak in me.
I even looked into starting a WISP here in the Phoenix area.
Okay, laters. Gotta figure out why PHP isn't sending teh mails.
 
Hi, would it be just fine if I ask this question on SF? "I have the main server with a US-based web host that also operates a datacenter in Amsterdam. If I have to choose Sweden (instead of Amsterdam), I would have to go with another service provider. So, based on this, which backup server location to choose: one in Amsterdam (cheaper 'coz it's the same provider) or the one in Sweden (safer location I guess?)?"
 
@its_meα The answer you get would be something to the effect of "We can't answer this for you, you need to evaluate the providers and make a call based on your business needs"
 
@voretaq7 Ditto + Closed as Too Local
 
@its_meα You had better decide on what criteria you want to evaluate your choices. And once you've decided that, you'll find that you already have the answer and it's not suitable for SF.
 
8:33 PM
oh... okay.
 
@its_meα Questions like "which of these is best" aren't something we can usually answer - It's like asking "Is Linux better than Windows?" -- It's entirely dependent on what you're going to do with it.
 
@voretaq7 got it.
 
'Cept @Voretaq7 will say "Neither, run BSD or OS/2 you pussies"
 
@Shads0 OS/2: Still alive and kicking on cash registers.
 
8:46 PM
BeOS forever!!
 
Banyan Vines or you're all posers.
 
@MikeyB I love watching the beginning of playthroughs of that game. People so confident that the game is nothing reduced into a pile of sobbing flesh, scared of even turning the lights out.
 
@MikeyB We are also DEATHLY AFRAID OF BOOBIES!
 
@WesleyDavid Bare wires and write your own goddamn protocol.
 
8:49 PM
wow
cisco TAC is hosed
 
they're not all that useful to begin with, usually
 
If you have an existing service request, push 2. <push 2> . We are having call problems and can not connect you at this time. Please call back later
 
@Aaron More than usual?
 
@Aaron Oh. That is more than usual.
 
@ChrisS they probably just upgraded Unity and The Cisco Perky Voicemail Lady is PMSing.
 

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