@EmilS I don't think there IS a chat for all the sites, except possibly "Tavern on the Meta" (chat.meta.stackoverflow.com). Each area has their own rooms.
Since you are server guys. What do you think I should look for when trying to determine if a web hosting/cloud hosting is reliable? It's so easy to choose Amazon or Rackspace since they are the big players... but there are a lot of smaller "clouds"
That's actually not bad. I'll be honest and say it's not *quite* what I'm looking for as, ideally, I want notifications when new stuff comes in (I don't watch super active blogs) but in lieu of an alternative (And, believe me, I've tried!) I'll stick to it.
On a serious note, if there was a little taskbar notification when a new article came in I'd be sold!
@Dan I've got a commitment to myself to get an actual release version out of the door by the end of the year. Re: notification, are you looking for a balloontip, or some other form of toaster popup? I'm thinking notifications should be selectable per feed - ie some feeds notify, others don't.
Actually, I'm not sure what I want (Difficult customer) but either would suffice - I don't mind just having a title and then having to click to read if it interests me. Kind of like the desktop notifications for Outlook, if you like - enough to say "Ooh, I need to read that".
I'm well pleased, some of you might recall the difficulties we went through with integrating LDAP login into our vCenter Operations Enterprise rollout - well VMWare sent me an update this morning with loads of changes and it just works, first time - really happy about that, good customer service I reckon
A client just experienced a complete failure of an APC AP7911A switched/metered rack power distribution unit. This obviously took all of the connected equipment down with it. The equipment is fine, as well as the UPS unit.
In situations where it may not be possible to balance devices across mult...
Define plan I suppose - all installs I've ever done have had dual PSUs in anything remotely important, with one PSU going to the UPS (Via a PDU) and the other PSU going directly to the mains
Other than that, I guess it's a case of mitigating risk where you can - carrying spares and so on. I've never written a formal plan for a PDU failure though, I must admit
In data centers, I have the luxury of A+B feeds and build-out accordingly. This was a server room in a small office... and I think a bad decision was made to run everything (4 PSU) on one PDU.
@ewwhite So long as the supply can take it, there should be no problem in running the UPS off one circuit and having another PDU to bypass it. I've done this in even the worst of 'server rooms'
So yeah, you're right - I'd say that's the root cause in essence
@dan - it makes sense to have power diversity. So use UPS and a bypass. Or multiple power feeds. Some way to leverage the multiple PSUs. In this case, the client had a multi-hour outage essentially because of a power strip failure.
@ewwhite Yeah, exactly. As Chopper posts - its nice to have redundant UPSes, but that just won't happen in some places. I mean, I've put in server rooms into schools - where they use a domestic style power feed. I just plug the UPS into one plug, and a PDU into another. If the UPS goes they get power still - if the building power goes they have a UPS to shut everything down
You have to watch your current draw a little - but there comes a point where you just have to tell them that they need to improve their infrastructure
I didn't install this particular server, but I built large portions of the room... 3 x UPS units... 2 x 110V, and 1 x 208V, which originally had the PDU in place to feed a Proliant DL740 server that required high-line power.
a new contractor was brought in and plugged a new server, DL580 G7, and all of its PSUs into the single 208V PDU
Well, if you plan to lose the entire UPS 'sector' (So, the plug that the UPS goes into fails, along with the UPS and the PDUs and all PSUs attached to it etc) and can still maintain power then you're not going to go far wrong. A PDU failing would be no different to a UPS failing, from a power point of view.
But yeah - it's definitely easy for people to overlook these things.
It's not even a question you could make a start on if I you were so inclined
@Chopper3 I came down to find my garage had somehow 'blown' open. It wasn't wide open, but it was a horrible moment peering in expecting to see a vast emptiness where my camper and tools were
I don't know if anyone saw "Black Mirror" on C4. But there's a scene where the Prime Minister turns around in a rage shouting "Fucking internet". I desperately need to image macro it
@Dan I'm an old b3tan so used to hang around with CB in his tvgh days, he's a talented dude
@syneticondj that's nice for you, try doing that, and all the other spam we get, and sorting out fights, complaints, flags etc. for years, while having a job to do without once losing your temper with idiots
what makes you think it's a public office? get off your high horse, it's not like you germans are well known for your ability to manage your own tempers now is it
@Iain some analogue services were switched off and there was a DTT update
As you'd know from my comment on that stupid question it's been a hard week for me and the other mods, lots of critisicm from every angle, this isn't a paid job, we do it because we were asked (in my case) or volunteered, it takes a lot of our time and we get literally fuck all back for it but abuse from those who choose to do nothing and have proven nothing of their own ability to do this either. Take a walk in someone else's shoes before having a go at them.
@syneticondj are you trying to annoy me? because it's working
I am not taking a go at you - I just expressed my concern that someone probably will. I consider your work necessary and valuable and would not like to see it all turning bad just because someone feels like having a power struggle - and there always is one.
@Chopper3 it's just my OpenID really - nothing pushing anything.
yet you expect us to be totally even-handed, emotionless automatons, never tiring of the waves of bullshit we get every day - well I'm a human, one with literally decades of experience in what we do and I sometimes get offended when idiots make no attempt to even look at the site to see if their latest brainfart is appropriate.
we don't allow users to promote their products and services in their username, it happens a lot, I'd missed yours, until now
@syneticondj Does the comment on this question meet your cold, efficient, automated requirements; serverfault.com/q/341155/1435 - maybe we could get moderator actions automatically sent to you for approval first?
The greater Stack Exchange community has agreed that such names are to be allowed.
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/100860/are-user-names-that-represent-domains-allowed
The accepted answer on that one is what the SE policy is on this topic.
The identity you choose is a personal thing...
I do not expect this, since I know how hard this can be. The problem is with a couple of others who do. And who will not rest until they've buried any accomplishment in dirt. I do not want to see this happen really.
@syneticondj, and yet you've done quite the opposite, you've made me realise that I shouldn't be doing this work at all, because no matter how many thousands of moderator actions I've taken over the years I'm still a target for the likes of you to come along pointing out the sub-1% 'failures' you see as I'm not a clinical emotionless humourless machine as you feel you need us to be.
Well you win, I'm going to ask to be removed from the mod list, then we can have another election, you can stand and, if you win, prove your superiority - good luck with that.
Oh come on, you are over-reacting really... And I have pointed out multiple times that I do not consider this a "failure". I am not aspiring for a moderator's office BTW.
"public office" - who does that for free? you're sniping from the sidelines with nothing to lose, no skin in the game, well you can do what you like, but you've had your effect.
well thanks for pointing out this is has all been a pointless waste of my time, I thank you for that, I'll get on with my imperfect little life elsewhere and leave you to it.
Chopper is probably our most active mods so loosing him (as a mod) would not be in the best interests of the site. Yes, he might come across badly sometimes but as he and I have both said we both get annoyed with people joining the site and asking unrelated/off-topic/complete wrong/out of scope questions.
@TomOConnor Without getting in the middle of this, I did a quick look on your meta and the about section of this chatroom there are no policies for kicking a user based on opinion. So no one is getting kicked from this chatroom.
Even better (but probably not quite fair) would be to have a semi-technical question that they have to answer before being able to ask. Even if it's instantly Google-able it shows that they can use google and research something.
there's soup in the canteen here :) stroll on 12:30
I don't think I'm going to be asked to be the student newspaper's "Agony Uncle" any time soon. Apparently "I'm trying to pay my mortgage, tell me again why its not fair that fashion costs so much" isn't sympathetic enough
I've been asked to compile a list of TCP/UDP and ports they use for the collection of application that comprise our product for a client who wants the information for their firewall.
So I fired up TCPView some of the processes are so short lived that I can't register the information fast enough ...
I'm also tired as hell so I'm feeling a little punch drunk.
He's been a respected op here for...geez, at least a year.
Probably close to back around SF's launch.
I've been on over a year and don't remember when he first appeared.
I'll have to look at the transcripts to see what happened this time. But he's been one of the go-to's when there's a problem requiring moderation. Probably someone took offense to his brusque manner and got all irritated at it.
Whoever was mad it wasn't anywhere near as bad as having tomtom go after them, I bet. REBOOT ALL THE CELLPHONES!
I’ve been a member of the SF chat room for quite some time. Whilst it was never the most learned place to be, at one time it was at least safe for work. Right now it’s an open to google sewer where swearing is becoming the norm rather than the exception and rallying the pack to pile on the cluele...
well besides people badgering chopper you mean? Some of the language earlier on is a bit strong. God knows I'm in **no**# position to criticise others for that and I don't see it as a problem but its there, I guess.
Yeah, I read the convo. I do agree that it seemed like chopper overreacted, but at the same time, eh has been really on edge lately so as a person with a short temper and whos also not afraid to curse out a person to their face, I can understand fully.
Also, so the chat has become flooded with ponies, memes, and boobies....WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH THAT =D
sure, chopper is helluva guy and i think that with all his rep and his knowledge of this site and our biz in general he should be allowed to loose his temper every now and then
I was just proviing a point - considering buying a diamond seperately, which I'm told by some is a little unromantic (Though I disagree) and my point is that she'll end up with a far better, and personal ring
While I take your joke - I have a friend who works IT in the jewellery trade so as long as I can source a nice ring (Which could be the sticking point in this whole thing) then I can get a proper jeweller to pair them up
I figured after that I had to suggest some kind of comprimise. Maybe there's a secret mod chat and they're thinking @holocryptic @shads0 and @bartdevos need to burn, lets ban them from chat forever, or provide a permanant blog link for @barsilverstrim ;)
@BartDeVos now THAT would take the fun out of it. I would rather a split chat than being banned from it by someone who took offense to, say, my Free Shrugs image above.
Though, to anyone actually taking offense, I refer them to a little dialogue by steven hughes about being offended.
How to improve chat, in 3 easy steps. 1) Remember it is not a democracy. 2) We are not picking on you, we pick on all assholes alike. 3) If you don't like it, Fuck Off.
Well, there's got to be at least one room for people to join and say "HAI I WANT TO BUILD THE NEXT FLICKUR I has £10,000 a month from my parents I has no IT expereince and I has no coding expereince and what do I nee-oh, wait. TCR is for that.
@TomOConnor did you know about this little episode that came up yesterday morning? The guy wanted to build a Flicker-killer, given money by his parents to do it, but had no idea how to do it.
actually that talk was a great example of how this chat room is actually quite good. Despite being off topic, despite not knowing what to ask, I thought we actually did well for that guy and gave him good advice and all
Hell, when new users pop into here (myself, @basil, and general newbies that don't stick around and chat a lot) they get told to talk about boobs if nothing else and they just generally accept and enjoy the chat
The greater Stack Exchange community has agreed that such names are to be allowed.
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/100860/are-user-names-that-represent-domains-allowed
The accepted answer on that one is what the SE policy is on this topic.
The identity you choose is a personal thing...
