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5:00 PM
@Tanner doesn't have enough paystubs to get the payday loan
 
Oh Jesus...
 
Oh, shit, well that makes it harder. I think if there were an easy way to make fast cash remotely, I'd be doing it, and living in a ski-resort right now.
 
@ewwhite If you're habitually late on the rent to the point where it becomes a problem for the landlord (who, after all, has to pay a mortgage and such) they stop being flexible eventually.
 
Sell a few things on craigslist?
 
expose himself on chaturbate for tips? (note: don't actually do this)
 
5:01 PM
@Tanner or visit a pawnbroker
@tombull89 Actually that's a really good idea.
 
@Tanner I suggested all of the above.
 
@voretaq7 Actually, some landlords (like corporate ones) are just shitty like that by default. For example, mine. But yes, what you say is also true.
 
@ewwhite Failure is the best teacher
 
Time to buy a cardboard box.
 
@ewwhite Even pawnbroker?
 
5:02 PM
for me, I tried to help... Western Union
but Western Union declined my transaction
saying they couldn't verify everything for me...
 
@ewwhite You can't just send money via bank?
 
(and Western Union is ghettttto)
@MikeyB not quickly enough.
 
Almost asked in Meta, but I'm lazy...@ChrisS....what's the current consensus on questions like: serverfault.com/questions/574007/… that are simply devs wanting answers here and obviously aren't sysadmins? Do we say "go away" or actually bother to answer?
 
@ewwhite Wow. We can do transfers instantly if it's the same major bank, or within minutes via email.
 
"Remote uninstallation on client computer completed with error: Uninstallation completed successfully."
....okay....
 
5:04 PM
@TheCleaner I generally leave those alone, or provide an answer if I feel generous.
 
:13650654 I'd have to GO to a Western Union in person and pay cash to do it... and fuck, it's zero degrees right now in my neighborhood
 
@NathanC That's one of those "Error code: success" errors.
 
@TheCleaner It's somewhat crappy, and it looks like SU material to me. But I don't vote on Windows questions anymore since I don't have the chops to know if that's all the response you should be getting from a Windows system that's behaving that way.
 
@HopelessN00b in NY you're basically forced to wait until your tenant is 90 days behind before you can do much
 
@MikeyB different bank...
@voretaq7 14 days late
right now.
 
5:05 PM
@ewwhite How quickly can they open an account at your bank?
 
And....radius auth on wifi isn't working again -_-
 
@voretaq7 Yeah, not so much everywhere. Like my landlord, automatically files an eviction on the 4th of the month if they don't have their monies.
 
not quickly enough... and this is the 'hood, man.
@HopelessN00b and if you pay, they don't have to accept it?
I grew up pretty poor... and we were definitely month-to-month
but maybe it was a simpler, gentler time... but I know our landlords gave us leeway.
 
Our rent is all done electronically...we have 15 days after the first of the month before it's "late"
 
@ewwhite Don't know, but I suspect they'd still kick you out and rent the place to someone who can pay on time. Kind of a renter's market for anything even "decent" where I ant to live.
 
5:06 PM
but they don't go right to eviction
 
seems mighty bold to file eviction and take on that legal mess
 
@ewwhite that's how those are written. Whether it's enforceable depends on the local laws.
 
@ewwhite there's more competition for rentals now
so the landlord probably feels he can evict, jack up the rent, and re-rent
 
@voretaq7 because it's nearly impossible for people to buy these days
 
I had a landlord like that. he made noise about that, but he was renting out units in the jankiest building in the jankiest part of the nice neighborhood. Losing his ass in turnover costs.
 
5:08 PM
@ewwhite Landlords are people! :-)
 
@voretaq7 Hmm, rent is $1029, and all they have is... $770.
 
@ewwhite If they've reached the point where the landlord won't take 2/3rds now, and 1/3 on Monday... they might be just screwed. (and why the hell wait until it's too late to do anything about it? Jeez.)
 
@HopelessN00b ^ this.
 
@HopelessN00b I think the landlord won't take partial payments.
 
Will the landlord take Dogecoin?
@ewwhite or blowjobs?
 
5:12 PM
it's pretty impressive what people will try to get away with. One of our shareholders lost her job (which sucks, and we all feel bad for her) and wound up something like 6 months behind on maintenance (rent) payments. She fought that and wound up in court, lost, and now owes that plus "reasonable legal fees"
and she wants us to waive the legal fees (about 3k)
Um.... no? We had to pay our lawyer to go to court and smack you around so we could get our money. We'll work out a payment plan, but we gotta recover that cost.
 
@MikeyB The blow job and hooker industry in this town is mighty-competitive...
 
@ewwhite Good Competitive or Bad Competitive
 
@voretaq7 oversaturated.
 
@ewwhite Well... I mean, shit. "Uh... go back in time and ask me for help on Wednesday, when the money will be able to get to you before you're evicted."
 
(Good Competitive = lots of attractive hookers. Bad competitive = they're all skanks and the pimps are violent and overcharge you)
 
5:14 PM
In Florida or Hawaii i wouldn't even bother to rent, just live on the streets.
 
@ewwhite ...are you sure it's for rent?
 
@voretaq7 I posted last week about a "friend" who's in the industry and trying to decide between web developers.
 
saturated is already bad, oversaturated must be nasty.
 
@Tanner yep
 
Windows...why you no work properly?
Radius is returning properly...but windows gives me the ol' "unable to connect" message
 
5:21 PM
@ewwhite Gotta go niche. Lots of guys have a real thing for the Gay4Pay straight dudes.
@ewwhite Can you order a few $100 bills from Amazon and have them deliver by drone?
 
paypal...
 
moneygram
10-Minute Same Day Transfer Service Option: Using your credit or debit card, funds will typically arrive 10 minutes after the transfer is sent. Transfers can be received at any MoneyGram location. Subject to agent availability, hours of operation, and local regulations.
 
Sounds almost like a question for the personal finances SE site. "What options are available for getting $300 across the country, in a few hours or less?"
 
@ewwhite Does his landlord have an account at your bank?
 
@MikeyB no partial payments... only full amount accepted.
@HopelessN00b yeah... truth.
I hate being the one people ask for cash
another cousin's baby-mama lives near my new house, so he lurks by...
 
5:30 PM
@ewwhite give the landlord the full payment, and make your family member transfer you the rest?
 
sometimes calling me and saying, "Yo, I'm outside!!"
 
@ewwhite It's ok, i've landed tons of $ back to Russia, never really got back anything.
 
@ewwhite you have a nice stout fence with a tall gate?
 
@Magellan yes, locked gate...
no doorbell
 
everytime i give, i am pretty much saying good bye to the $
 
5:34 PM
I let him in once...
and he left with a 46" plasma TV and a 17" MacBook Pro
 
haha, like my cousin too, sold my grandpa bathtub
 
@ewwhite tbh, this is part of why I am okay with living 1000s of miles away from my family. Makes raising the kids a little harder, but I really don't need my cousin's drama. They've grown up a fair bit, but it's still a bit of a mess.
 
to get a dose
 
@Magellan I got all sorts of family stories... worse than produce.
 
@ewwhite yeah. I think everybody does. Thankfully most of my family mess is step-family that I don't have to talk to anymore anyway.
My mom doesn't have much family, sadly. they're all gone.
 
5:36 PM
Like my other cousin who dates a 55 year-old pimp and was on a Maury Povich DNA test episode.
 
haha that is hilarious.
 
Not that specific clip... but still, in general
 
yeah, i figured.
 
5:54 PM
Huh...I've appeared to have lost all my unifi APs...
 
Anyone know what the hell CSF is?
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Q: Can't run CSF on the host machine using Open VZ

user180065I managed to configure CSF on my three VM inside OpenVZ, but when I try to run it on the host, all the VMs become unreachable. I can see that the host is been attacked, and it would be critical if it gets invaded. Below is the result of iptables status on the host after stopping csf: [root@Cent...

FFS. It's the LAMPstack equivalent for security.
Not to mention that he seems to think VZ Containers == Virtual Machines.
 
@Magellan Lots of hosting companies call VZ Containers VMs.
 
@ChrisS and the sales people doing that should be strung up by their gonads.
In this case, he's also admin'ing the host. So it's on-topic for SF, and he should know better.
 
6:22 PM
 
Film: Looks good. Music video: Eh. Song: jesus christ.
 
OK! SERIOUS QUESTION TIME!
Should I register clitoris.guru?
 
@MikeyB how much would that be?
 
@MikeyB only if you can provide references and credentials from satisfied girlfriends.
we should all chip in and buy sex.guru and give it to Dr. Ruth on her next birthday
 
6:36 PM
Right, off on holiday/vacation for a bit, see you shitcunts later!
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@Chopper3 but weren't we supposed to have a call?
 
@ewwhite yep, true - made week/month/year so far though - when I get back?
 
CT refund - 4$, Thanks a lot.
 
@Chopper3 yeah, yeah...
 
@ewwhite sorry, been crazy this week - hardly slept
 
6:51 PM
 
I want to try crossfit, but the price here in Oslo is insane
it's like $400 /month
 
wow
that's quite a lot
 
What's the version of Cisco ASA most commonly in use these days?
 
@ewwhite stopped using them
 
@Chopper3 and what's the replacement?
 
6:57 PM
@ewwhite Big fan of Riverbed Stingray Traffic Manager - well we use if for what we used to use ASA's for anyway
 
@Chopper3 ZXTM was one of the few things Logicworks got right... expensive, but good.
@Chopper3 In my non-cloud life, I don't have much use for them now.
 
@ewwhite very expensive and I HATE our salesman but the product works
@ewwhite think I've fixed that 3x3.2PB/250Gb problem by the way, got HP labbing it for me in early March
 
@Chopper3 Oh :(
then I'm of no use
@Chopper3 Can you help me become richer?
or poke and prod at HP for ruining my business?
 
@ewwhite I'd love to talk with you about it, or anything of course - but I was pretty strung-out when I asked and was mid-way through mentally testing a solution
@ewwhite I reckon you and I have quite similar normal-job income actually - I get a lot of return from investments but my actual job these days pays very similar to yourself (taking the £/$ thing into the equation and based on my memory of what you've said)
 
@Chopper3 Yes, investments... need to get going on that.
 
7:02 PM
@ewwhite I was very lucky as I bought into Apple when SJ went back - that's >50% of my total wealth tbh
 
@Chopper3 sniffles
 
@ewwhite most common? I'd say 8.4
 
@HopelessN00b You can also specify properties inline, instead of in an array:
Get-ADUser jscott -Properties DisplayName, SamAccountName, Enabled ...
 
is anyone familiar with remote administration software
like teamviewer
etc
 
@Ethan We use Altiris/SCCM if that counts.
 
7:16 PM
@pauska K. that's what I was thinking.
 
@jscott Yeah, that was my first approach, but no-go. I was scratching my head over WTH it wasn't working, then I figured it would probably just be fastest to ask over at SO. Someone may as well be using that place for good, rather than evil.
 
@mossy The highest rated review there is great... except clients are Jane, not Jill.
 
"burnt plastic and garbage juice" :|
 
@mossy "Happy Junk LLC"
So fresh, So dry.... I feel like they should Doge up their advertising campaign.
"Wow. Such dry. Very Fresh. Much Balls. Amaze."
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7:26 PM
Eh, I don't know. I'll just keep using my hair gel.
 
And now my front page of Amazon is covered in Fresh Balls and Dude Wipes
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@voretaq7 Do you have a HAM license?
 
Now since i clicked that link, amazon will start offering me all sorts of ball creams.
 
I restart my browser and come back to the chat ...first thing I see is "Fresh Balls Lotion".
The Comms Room.
 
@ChrisS an ancient one, yes :)
 
7:32 PM
On another note, got a CA installed and properly working with group policy :)
 
The original formula, high quality talcum keeps "your boys" dry and smelling great while preventing the dreaded "bat wings" sweat stain as well.
 
Next stop, NPS for RADIUS auth...
 
@voretaq7 Still have a radio? And thoughts for or against particular setups?
 
@ChrisS nope. Haven't had a transmitter rig in years, I've got nowhere to put the antenna :-/
what are you trying to set up for?
 
I hate fucking drupal
6,7 whatever
2500
 
7:38 PM
@voretaq7 Just general curiosity more than anything.
 
@DanilaLadner Use protection when fucking Drupal. You don't want to wake up with an uncomfortable spammy discharge from your web server!
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God, man too late it's epidemic already.
 
Young guys...everyone knows green Gold Bond is the right stuff. It's like a thousand tiny ice gnomes tickling your sack.
 
@TheCleaner I use C.O. Bigelow menta-creme on my ballzak.
 
7:46 PM
I want a Community Wiki outlawing this:
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Q: ESXi won't route with GW on a completely different subnet

JeanneD4RKI'm trying to install a pfSense with an IP failover (requirement from online.net) but I can't get the server to route the requests. Last time I got it working with the following commands: route add -inet 62.210.137.1/32 -link -iface em0 route add default 62.210.137.1 then download ShellC...

 
@ewwhite . . . why are you rubbing menthol on mediocre french literature?
 
@voretaq7 because: ignorant
 
@ewwhite ah. reasons. Cool. :)
 
HP has posted a response to their warranty shenanigans... h30507.www3.hp.com/t5/Technical-Support-Services-Blog/…
 
@ewwhite "Fine. No fucking firmware updates. For anyone. Fuck you all!" <--?
 
7:55 PM
"Customers for life" --> We've got you by the balls AHAHAHAHA
 
This is troubling...I can't seem to log into my sonicwall
 
seriously though, that title seems inappropriate...
 
Login succeeds, but it just pops a window to limit my logon time but I don't get the dashboard or anything...
 
use a different browser
 
@Tanner no, you don't understand. HP stays young by sucking the life force out of their customers....
 
7:57 PM
Nathan where are you located again?
 
@ewwhite has HP realized that customers can actually choose another vendor for their servers? HP isnt all that, not as solid as IBM or as cheap as Dell. They're like the middle child throwing a tantrum.
 
8:13 PM
I can't get over the awful tone in that. It's insulting...
 
@ewwhite I posted a comment on that, let's see if HP approves it :-P
 
@Magellan I wildly disagree with you on HP's 'solidity' - I buy a fuckload of their kit every year and almost nothing gets even close to their build quality, performance, functionality and stability. Cost is a different matter however.
 
@Magellan HP ignored the fact that customers can actually choose another vendor for their gear
@Chopper3 Out of curiosity do you run HP gear longer than the factory warranty?
 
@voretaq7 That's only 12 months isn't it? we average just over 3 years I guess, maybe less on some kit
 
I'm interested what this new firmware policy would cost an organization with a large deployment footprint (the retail cost, not the "But you buy a fuckton of our gear every year, so we zero'd that line for you).
 
8:16 PM
@voretaq7 well nothing, we just get a corporate account for it all anyway, to be honest we usually just use their ftp server anyway
 
@Chopper3 I think HP's stock warranty is 12 months x 4 hour turnaround). My Supermicro-via-Reseller warranty is tough to beat from major vendors (12x4hr and then 2 more years where I get Next-Day Parts)
 
@Chopper3 HP is solid, but IBM seems to be premium...
@voretaq7 HP gear has 3 year standard warranty. Next-business-day
 
@Chopper3 I expect their FTP server will disappear (or get paywalled/passworded) as a result of the policy change
@ewwhite so same as Dell and IBM then?
 
Yep
The issue is perception...
 
yeah that's what you get from Dell, and IBM is either 3xNBD or 3x4hr for an upgrade fee
 
8:18 PM
@ewwhite Really? I suppose a lot of it is a perception thing and I always perceive IBM as lower quality than HP, but then again I am SO deeply entrenched with them I suppose
 
I got the people at Logicworks to buy HP because of the open support and firmware access...
 
@ewwhite the issue is guys like me who amortize equipment over 3 years but run it for about 5
 
and they still complained about how much less flexible it was than SUpermicro.
 
@ewwhite ouch
 
HP will lose in head-to-head bids because of the trouble from this policy
 
8:19 PM
@Chopper3 IBM has a lot of nice features on xSeries (like LightPath diagnostics and the not-quite-a-DST-but-close-to-it pull-out diagnostic display)
where IBM really shines is in the Power family though. I wouldn't buy x86 from IBM
not that their stuff isn't good, but it's commodity and I can get it way cheaper from other vendors
 
@voretaq7 ah - see I HAVE to buy x86
 
kce
This is a terribly stupid question but is there some convention on where to keep scripts in Windows? Like /opt or /usr/local/bin?
 
@Chopper3 IBM's definitely more solid, but it's not normally a noticeable difference. Your HP server's gonna be obsolete 5 years before you can expect it to break down, so how much does that really matter?
 
@kce C:\Program Files\Your Company\Scripts :-)
@HopelessN00b IDK about "more solid", probably about equivalent
it's hard to get bad x86 hardware these days
I just think the new HP policy is stupid. "Oh yeah, you have a firmware bug. You can fix that easily, just let me connect you to the sales department and you can fork over $1000 for a 3 year support contract on a 4 year old server so you can download a 2MB file..."
versus now where it's "Oh yeah that's a firmware bug. Go here, download this, run it, and you're good"
 
@voretaq7 I've seen IBM servers that are older than me, still running happily after decades of 24x7, doing whatever the fuck anyone would want to do on ancient hardware, so I'm thinking IBM has a bit of expertise in making a computer last far longer than anyone has any business running it for.
 
8:22 PM
My situation is stuff like: I install a server, run it for 4 years... get a new server, repurpose the old one...
 
@HopelessN00b I've seen old Dell servers (like OLD old - 12+ year old 6U beasts) still chugging away
 
when I repurpose the old system, new operating systems and features are available via firmware...
 
if you give a server good power and cooling and it doesn't fail in the first year it'll run damn-near-forever
 
@voretaq7 No, it's really not hard at all to get bad x86 hardware these days. supermicro.com/index.cfm
 
and I need to apply to them be able to run Ubuntu 16.01 or Windows XYX
 
8:24 PM
@ewwhite that too - "Oh yeah you can't install Windows 2015 on that machine without a firmware upgrade.... which I can't give you because your warranty expired yesterday. Sorry broski."
 
@voretaq7 Me too. Exactly why I said it's gonna be obsolete years before it breaks, so how much does that really matter?
 
@HopelessN00b I have an entire rack full of Supermicro equipment. Do you know how many hardware failures I've had in the last 6 years? Zero.
I had an entire rack of Dell equipment for internal use at $job[-1]. You know how many hardware failures I had with Dell? At least one a month (Usually hard drives. Sometimes ECC errors in the RAM.)
Conclusion: My SuperMicro reseller has better QC than Dell.
 
@voretaq7 Fine. Let's revisit this topic in 2 years after Lenovo's gotten its hands on the IBM xSeries servers and made a bunch of changes... then we'll see what you think about the availability of bad x86 hardware. :p
 
(probably because they actually do a 24 hour RAM and disk burn-in)
@HopelessN00b I don't think it's really going to go downhill in terms of quality. Support is gonna suck though.
 
@voretaq7 but you USE a reseller.
Most Supermicro fools don't
 
8:27 PM
Like I said, It is really hard to get bad x86 hardware - motherboards, chips, RAM, even HDs these days are generally pretty solid.
@ewwhite well they're stupid.
 
@voretaq7 RAM burn-in doesn't help!!
 
I feel very stupid now...THANKS STACK EXCHANGE!
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Q: Nice scientific pictures show off

ThomasTask Show off your best scientific illustration ! The main purpose of this question is to share beautiful scientific pictures, preferably with an educational aspect. Content Your post must contain a nice picture and the associated code. One can post several pictures, but it must be done in...

 
@ewwhite Running memtest or equivalent for 24 hours will expose a bad chip. Won't help if the chip goes wonky later (which does happen sometimes), but at least they're not shipping you an obviously bad chip :)
I've actually had them email me and say the RAM in the system failed its check and they needed another day to re-run the test - I'm WAY happier having them tell me that before I build and deploy a box than after it's in my rack and I have to go to manhattan to replace chips
 
@voretaq7 HP Smart Memoryâ„¢ gives handjobs...
 
@ewwhite There you go whipping out that G8 again.
 
8:31 PM
@voretaq7 Probably right. Hmm. I guess the hardware itself is so commoditized that there isn't much bad out there.
 
@ewwhite ...so it's DDR3 ECC RAM. I'm not impressed.
 
@voretaq7 it runs faster
 
IBM blinks a little red light next to the failed chip :P and on Power systems you can replace the chip without turning the machine off.
@ewwhite Who cares? Call me when I can replace the failed chip without turning the machine off! :-)
 
Hot-spare memory
 
@ewwhite hot-swap memory
RAM mirroring doesn't impress me if I still have to turn the machine off to replace the chip. I'm still taking an outage window.
 
8:34 PM
 
HP ProLiant DL740... RAID 5 RAM...
those 5 hot-swap memory trays at the top of the photo
 
@ewwhite This pleases me.
@ewwhite you are however in trouble for wearing open-toed shoes in a datacenter.
 
@voretaq7 but that was a 2004-era server
@voretaq7 That was also Texas...
 
@ewwhite I assume you can swap individual chips now then?
@ewwhite no excuse!
 
8:35 PM
nope... not hot-plug RAM
this ain't big-iron... or Power 7
 
@ewwhite You can on some of the IBM xSeries. Anything orange is hot-swap.
 
the Power systems it'll kill the chip when it detects errors (migrate everything out of the chip, reduce the available RAM) until you replace it.
@MikeyB can you hot-swap DIMMs on the XSeries now? Used to only be on Power
hmm, apparently you can now
 
(and apparently have been able to for a while and I just wasn't buying the step-up hardware. Serves me right for being a cheap bitch.)
I remember watching an AS/400 field engineer do a processor upgrade by migrating, disabling and swapping between the CPU cards way the hell back when I was an intern. That was freakin' awesome.
"We need to upgrade the AS/400 but we can't have any downtime. Like really, we can't have ANY downtime. IBM said they'll make it happen."
fucking voodoo.
 
@voretaq7 @ewwhite you both know you should just buy this:
 
8:42 PM
After months of troubleshooting...figured out why the sonicwall won't take my own CA: it's a bug... serverfault.com/questions/520253/sonicwall-and-windows-ca/…
 
@TheCleaner you're paying the power bill for it right? :)
 
@TheCleaner "Why yes, it comes with a laptop to manage it, why do you ask?"
@NathanC ARGH smashey smash smash. "Don't just say failure, say WHY YOU FAILED."
 
@voretaq7 it draws power directly from employees within close proximity.
 
@MikeyB Basically...
I did manage to get the CA into active directory and now I can issue certs for web services and they'll all happily verify
and, I got NPS to work with UniFi, so there's that too ...just the downside of having to import our internal CA first
 
@NathanC It's a bug? Yeah, I guess that's a reasonable description of Sonicwall products.
 
8:51 PM
  610  route
  611  route add ?
  612  route add -net 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 199.3.63.253
  613  ip route add -net 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 199.3.63.253
  614  exit
 
I can't decide....
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Q: WHS (Windows Home Server) as an backup agent for Synology

KuNIn short, can I use a WHS as the backup agent to fetch data from our windows-based servers and perform backups to a Synology nas? We just purchased a Synology 8-bay nas as our onsite backup device. We have several legacy servers as well as some newer file servers, all of them need daily backup a...

 
@TheCleaner He's in hell. The problem is, he seems to not mind.
 
@TheCleaner I have a feeling that would be a license issue
 
@ewwhite That was starting to sound like a Rammstein song
 
8:57 PM
@Jacob scary enough, MS themselves recommends it for backing up a small SBS shop. technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee378513%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
 
kce
Man. I'm having a hard time finding a decent question to answer for my question a day quest.
This rubber ducky is going to be hard to come by.
 
Cosolation Prize.
 
kce
Thanks dude.
 
screw it...I'm VTCing it...because it's Friday.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker oh my.
dated a QA tester who was a huge Rammstein fan.
 
9:14 PM
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Q: Ms Office Webcomponents not wokring

Inam RhymWe have some excel sheets opening in IE 8 Using Ms. Office Web components. Recently these are not working and we get a RED X in IE where is it suppose to show the data. I have tried: -Reinstalling the Office webcompnents -Also tried to add the data site as part of trusted sites in IE The above ...

^^ Heh. Cloud all the things, eh? ^^
 
Windows XP with IE8? What century is he living in?
 
@MichaelHampton XP is from this century, mate...
 
@Chopper3 Never had an opportunity to buy a fuckton of anything until recently. But the IBM stuff I've used has been stable beyond any reasonably expectation. We were paying retail for each of them, of course, so it was frightfully expensive. The Cisco server line I've worked with lately has been reasonably good, and the value/price equation has been simply outstanding.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Oh. Right.
 
@MichaelHampton That's actually us for a few more months, too. Even worse, because of "enterprise" software, we have IE7 in some places... because some of our shit enterprise software doesn't work with 8.
 
9:20 PM
The pace of progress in IT is sometimes frightening. The price of progress even more so :)
@HopelessN00b we recently built a ton of KVMs with windows 7 and IE 7
our customers use it, so we have to test our sites on it. Yuck.
 
I just reimplemented "repo" in cmd + powershell
I feel dirty
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Quiet. I'm just going with the line that Win7 comes with a higher IE version, so... get time to get rid of whatever piece of crap needs IE7.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker that's not that bad...
 
IE7?
jesus
 
9:24 PM
@ewwhite like they're going to approve any comments that aren't joyfully fanboi about HP.
 
@pauska half of china is still on IE6
 
HP has always been like that.
 
@ewwhite "Yet"
I refuse to believe i've been rejected until I see something approved.
At that point I'll assume HP are a bunch of Nazi fascist moderators and go appropriately rageface on mSO
(because you rage on mSO whenever you're slighted anywhere on the internet. that's how it works right?)
 
I rage here, then reddit
 
@RyJones Fuck the EU Reddit.
 
9:30 PM
I was thinking, right after I said that, I haven't really posted or commented much on reddit for years
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Same half that's still running a pirated version of XP from 2002?
 
@HopelessN00b yeah, the botnet half
 
Hmm. Seems like there'd be money to be made on upgrading them to a version of Windows 7 from 2009... I'm just not sure how to launder half a billion transactions at 50 Yaun each.
 
chinese laundromat?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker but I don't get why something needs IE7
I thought IE8 were compatible
 
9:37 PM
@pauska me neither, but our customers use it, so we have to test with it
and if it were compatible with ie8, we wouldn't have ie7 specific bugs :)
 
@pauska Yeah, seems to be a function of how crappy the 3rd party code is in the first place. If it's very crappy, it's only going to work on IE7, provided you don't look at it sideways, which is the case for our IE7-required apps.
 
9:57 PM
I feel unclean.
Signing up for external website monitoring with monitor.us
 
kce
10:20 PM
So I guess to get all certified up with our UCS stuff, I need to do the CCENT, then the CCNA, and then finally CCNA Datacenter. Huh.
Why I am so stoopid... :(
 
Surprised they didn't throw a CCIE in there too.
 
@Magellan why them instead of pingdom or uptime robot?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker The latter one might work. I'm looking for free monitoring.
 
@Magellan pingdom is free if you don't need much
 
Dc day
 
10:34 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker I think it's just free for the 30 day trial nowadays.
 
hmm, they haven't kicked me out yet
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Well, I wouldn't tell them, then, but at least for new accounts, it's just a 30 day free trial. pingdom.com/pricing
 
kce
@Magellan - Oh that's there as well but just the entry level certification is going to take some time.
 
@kce isn't there only like 20k CCIEs worldwide?
 
@HopelessN00b ah bugger, well, that's a goner then. I like uptime robot better anyway. monitor.us looks decent too
 
kce
10:36 PM
I wonder if I spend every Friday studying I could do it in a year (CCNA Datacenter).
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I'll check out uptime robot. See if I can get it to do a GET without a shitload of hassle like Monitor.US.
 
kce
@Magellan - Yeah. Not many. Probably actually a certification that's worth something. We have some UCS and Nexus equipment that I'm trying to take some ownership of instead of just having everything farmed out to contractors.
 
apparently monitor.US assumes everyone is doing JSON POSTs.
@kce nexus 9k?
 
and it's simple on monitor.us too, I just created an account and am monitoring my site already :)
 
kce
10:38 PM
@Magellan = 5048s
 
@kce ah. I'm surprised our network guy even lets us in that end of the cage with the 9Ks.
@DennisKaarsemaker yes. that part works fine. I'm dinking around with hipchat notification API and my HTTPS skillz have gotten rusty this year..
http, not https. stupid muscle memory....
 
@Magellan Meh. It's just an effing switch. If you can configure a switch, you can configure a Nexus. Way too big a deal made out of those things.
 
kce
We're too small to have that kind of division of labor. We have some relatively high end infrastructure but not the expertise to go with it.
 
@HopelessN00b hey, you try putting a 250lb switch into a rack and then try and tell your lower back that it's "no big deal".
 
kce
@HopelessN00b - Half the challenge is learning the Cisco-specific vocabulary.
 
10:42 PM
@Magellan Why the hell would I do something like that? That's what interns and helldesk guys are for, lifting heavy objects and other assorted tasks I don't want to do.
 
@HopelessN00b yeah, helpdesk isn't allowed in the DCs. that's what my team is for.
 
@Magellan hell, at $5/month, I might even go for the premium one and start using it for work stuff. They've got a decent location spread
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I use pingdom a lot at the office. the page load speed is brutal when you're over 2^10 checks.
 
why would you have over 2^10 checks?
hmm, our external nagios is also approaching 1000 checks, damn...
 
@DennisKaarsemaker it's complicated, but the reason is quite valid. it just sounds crazy if you're not on this side of the NDA.
 
10:46 PM
our checks have a bit of a combinatorial explosion
 
the product is really amazing too.
 
(#datacenters + 1) * #services * (#nameservers + at least 1) for each service
 
FFS. whoever designs web UIs with 6pt type should have their face chewed off by a rabid badger.
 

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