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8:14 AM
morning fuckers
 
Mornin - how was your trip?
 
@JennyD that's one of the worst puns ever. I'm proud of you :)
 
8:30 AM
@tombull89 knackering to be honest
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Thank you!
 
 
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9:47 AM
hi all
 
10:26 AM
'ello stranger
 
10:46 AM
Today's headscratcher: One of the printers in our art department has run out of clear ink. Yes, clear ink. No I don't know either.
 
@RobM HP Designjet?
 
canon somethingorother
 
Oh
it's a lacquer for making stuff look shiny, I think.
I've seen that before
on a HP designjet hugeformat bastard
 
I think you're right. But still.....
 
Just take the cartridge out and piss in it?
4
 
10:49 AM
they wanted clear ink, not yellow.
3
 
Drink more water.
 
now you sound like my doctor. And my masseuse
 
Oh, you'll love this. One of the internal dev teams sent me an email today saying:
We're releasing a new product, and we want it to have "sensible defaults" - their quotes, not mine.
Below was a list of IP addresses and variable names, with the sidenote "These will be hard-coded in"
Yeah. How about No?
 
IP Addresses? Coded in? nope.jpg
I've been asked today "can't we just install sharepoint to..."
 
10:52 AM
There is no such thing as just with sharepoint.
 
We asked a consultancy to quote on a sharepoint solution for Review and Approval of documents. The quote was about 25K
 
Sounds about right for Sharepoint.
I liked the idea of it before I learnt anything about how it worked, how to sysadmin it, how to code for it, etc, then I realised: It was a pile of crap to start with and then after it had festered for a while, MS hired the person behind Lotus fucking Notes to "improve" it. That's got to be a lot like hiring fred west to manage the bar at your "no murderers allowed" drinking club.
 
You should try MS Dynamics NAV if you think Sharepoint is awful.
 
no thanks!
 
11:12 AM
@TomO'Connor At $ORKPLACE[-2], one of our programmers thought it was a good idea to hardcode the ip address of the authorization database server. Because nobody would ever change that.... Until we needed to, and the source code was lost, and I ended up bin-editing the programs at 2 am. (At least I replaced the IP with a hostname, so it would be possible to change IP again if needed.)
 
got to hate people who do that.
The first time I persuaded a dev here to maybe stop hard coding stuff like that into the code, they simply went crazy and hard coded the host name into several places in their code instead of just defining it once and using a pointer like sane people.
 
He also hardcoded his own email address into an error message that advised the user to email him personally when a certain error occured. Some years later he came complaining to us sysadmins that we should fix it. We pointed out that he was the one who had hardcoded it, and the source code for that was also on that hard disk that had broken and that he'd never backed up.
 
I'm sure he loved that reminder @JennyD
 
@RobM Oh yes, that and the scornful laughter from a roomful of disgruntled sysadmins :-)
 
Ah the sweet sound that's guaranteed to produce a bottle of developer tears each time
 
11:19 AM
@JennyD LOL.
 
all you need is some bread?
 
@Chopper3 Perhaps he swerved to avoid a tractor and plough. Or a Ploughman.
 
:)
 
Doesn't look quite as bad as that accident on the M5 ealier this week.
 
12:07 PM
hmm...*pokes server with a stick*
 
bzzzzt BANG whhiirrrrrrrhummm
 
RDP isn't responding...yet the server's up
O_o
Oh...well....the server's locked up actually. I used the console to log in, and when I unlocked the session I'm greeted with a blank screen...
 
Fan death is death supposedly caused by sleeping in a closed room containing a running electric fan. There are no verified cases of the alleged phenomenon, but it remains a widely believed urban legend in South Korea. Origins of belief The genesis of the misconception is unclear, but fears about electric fans date almost to their introduction in Korea, with stories dating to the 1920s and 1930s warning of the risks of nausea, asphyxiation, and facial paralysis from this "new technology"."[http://veritasest.egloos.com/2029688 Strange Harm From Electric Fans]", Jungoe Ilbo (Domestic and ...
How is that a thing.
 
@TomO'Connor I read about that in "You are Not So Smart"
 
12:24 PM
Has there been any official announcement (besides this) of which Adobe products source has been accessed?
 
wikipedia, one of life's great time sinks
 
@RobM that, and tvtropes.
 
@RobM I have so much to do at work that it's getting to the point of being impossibly demoralising
 
I <3 TV tropes
 
ergo, i do less work than I would otherwise.
 
what I really need is a team of engineers to help
 
@RobM yeah, but I don't dare look at it when I have work to do
 
but there's no budget
 
@TomO'Connor I get that. Sometimes you look at a pile of stuff and your mind just shorts out.
 
Jesus, half that article is references
 
12:27 PM
so it's just me.
 
@JennyD I hear ya there. tvtropes, especially, is dangerous.
 
"Based on our findings to date, we are not aware of any specific increased risk to customers as a result of this incident." after saying first that they got the source code to Acrobat
Right..
 
@TomO'Connor do you have a boss that could help sort through things and set priorities?
 
@pauska Thanks for the link. Was looking for something to share with the boss man, he's already seen my link.
 
@JennyD If i go up the chain, everyone's hands are tied
Most companies develop a product and sell it
They sold a product
and want to use the profits to develop it
except the cost was more than the sale value
 
12:30 PM
@TomO'Connor you can just try breaking stuff down with something like trello boards with different boards for rough deadlines per month or quarter or whatever, so you don't have to look at the big pile of what's in the future when you just need to see what's right next on the list.
 
so they basically sold futures.
@RobM we use jira, and it's a scrum board
 
@TomO'Connor yeah but they are paid to help you do your job, they should be able to do that...
 
I did break it down
 
right
 
and it's still way too much, way too soon.
Ideally
 
12:30 PM
oh well. You can only do what you can do man.
 
I need a developer and another sysadmin
 
not much use I know, maybe, but still true.
 
sends a jedi mindhug to @TomO'Connor
 
So they've not made enough profit on the software? derp.
 
@tombull89 Basically you don't sell futures in software (or this case, software and hardware, and everything else)
 
12:34 PM
@TomO'Connor for real?
 
@dawud Well. What I need and what i'll get are two very different things
There's budget for one engineer
That's me.
 
heh, OK
 
Oh, I also need a developer, for this python thing we prototyped. Hah, would you believe it, that's me too.
Oh, and a sysadmin to help integrate it? That's me.
And the technical documentation, apparently I'm supposed to do that too.
 
sounds familiar
 
Do what that consulatant did and outsource it all to China.
 
12:35 PM
Probably on the 7th day after creating the earth and stars.
@tombull89 Can't.
 
@TomO'Connor that sounds about right for the mil/aero market
 
12:50 PM
PROXY ARP ALL THE THINGS. — mfinni 22 hours ago
My joke comment ended up being the noob's answer. Awesome.
 
1:02 PM
Morning folks.
 
Hi.
 
Uninstalling OEM bloat from new machines really makes me wish we had a master image...
 
@NathanC Make one from an ISO and SIM?
 
One day I'll understand quotes in BASH. I wish.
 
@TomO'Connor We don't have a volume license so I can't do it that way :(
@ntrrgc I take it you haven't hung around IRC all that much eh?
 
1:17 PM
@NathanC, why?
 
@ntrrgc bash.org is probably not what you're think of when you say "quotes"
 
@ntrrgc bash.org is made for quotes on IRC chats :P
 
I meant that annoying feature of BASH because of which you always end passing arguments wrongly.
 
...oh. That bash.
 
they are quite easy
 
1:22 PM
never had a problem with them myself so don't know (and don't want to know) what you're talking about. VMS DCL quoting - now that was a pain "in ""the """arse"""
 
what exactly you do not understand?
 
@mfinni Dude. When I saw that he got it working with Proxy ARP and then linked the Cisco doc on Proxy ARP to me I almost lost it.
 
That was what I thought 10 minutes ago.
I have an array like this: DUMP_COMMAND=(/sbin/dump -${LEVEL} -z9 -T "${CDATE}" -f -)
And then a call like this: ssh root@$SERVER "${DUMP_COMMAND[@]}" /dev/sda1 > "${BACKUP_DIR}/boot"
It fails with «Wrong date format: "Fri»
 
@NathanC you know that with most volume license agreements, you only need to purchase one copy of the volume license and you're entitled to use that key on your OEM-licensed machines as well, right?
 
"Just connected a synology NAS to both subnets, enabled ip_forwarding and proxy_arp, and I got a free gigabit pseudo-bridge between my two LAN."
 
1:25 PM
well, that's gonna fail horribly. Not only do you have to suffer bash, you also suffer SSH
 
So you buy one VL Win 8.1 Pro (or 7, whatever) and when you purchase your machines with an OEM SKU of pro installed you're still entitled to image it with your volume key. It's not cost effective to keep buying OEM once you have a VL, but you can if you must.
 
....
@MDMarra 5 VL licenses, to be anal.. they only come in packs
This is what we do - 5 VL licenses and about 1600 OEM XP licenses
hopefully 1600 win7 OEM licenses before april 8th..
 
I thought you just needed 5 purchases to start an open agreement so it could be like 1 windows, 1 office, etc
 
@NathanC You can still make the image, you'll just have to put the license key back in from the OEM, i think
 
as long as the first purchase totaled 5 licenses of something
 
1:27 PM
@TomO'Connor nope
you use the VL key on them all
 
@pauska You can build an ISO and not set a key
 
@pauska I think he was saying that you can still make an image without a VL key
 
then when you boot it, it asks for a key.
 
@MDMarra I'm aware, but the problem is getting the volume license. The CEO will look at the price tag and go..."lol you crazy"
 
oh, sorry, I misunderstood
 
1:28 PM
@TomO'Connor Aren't the OEM keys tied to their specific install?
 
@NathanC Then you haven't done a good job of explaning why it's cost effective.
 
@NathanC You can't convince your boss to buy 5 volume licenses?
 
I don't think they are.
and I don't think that's technically possible, either.
 
@NathanC Don't think about the OEM keys
You're not going to use them
The stickers that says you have a license is the important part
 
@NathanC You need to say "In the past month I've spent x man hours on this. If we make this purchase I invest y hours up front and then the process becomes about 15 minutes to fix"
 
1:28 PM
You buy 5 volume licenses, and use the same key on 317567361567 computers
 
Part of the job is selling your ideas as valuable
 
@ntrrgc what that array indices are?
 
as long as you have a OEM key that matches the OS (or downgrade)
 
Hm...I'll have to toss the idea to my boss
 
1:29 PM
@tombull89 Where'd you get that from?
 
@NathanC It's great to do, because when you get a new OEM shit box
 
@DanilaLadner indices? What have they to do with this?
 
I tried to toss the O365 idea but that didn't go anywhere even when I mentioned we wouldn't have to worry about office licensing for the rest of ever
 
just connect it to the network, PXE boot into WDS and let it blat the new image out
 
1:29 PM
@NathanC Imagine that you are going to roll out Windows 7 by using the OEM keys
 
I mean i still don't understand what you are trying to do there
 
and then you get a new computer with windows 8 OEM on it
You see the problem?
Anyways, use the VL key. It's allowed. As long as you have a license on the box that equals to the OS/edition you're using
We deploy XP professional on boxes with XP pro OEM keys, Vista Pro (or business, whatever) oem, win7 pro oem etc
 
@DanilaLadner I have a series of arguments in a bash array and I want to pass them to a program (ssh)
 
@pauska So, purchase a "5 computer" license and I can use it on as many OEM machines as I want...
 
@NathanC correct
 
1:31 PM
@pauska I'd send it back to the supplier and say "We ordered a 7 pro one for a reason, fuckers"
 
the volume license gives you the right to image the OS
use rights are still tied to the sticker on the box, unless you buy VL for all of them
 
I'll see if I can talk my boss into talking the CEO into funding it lol
 
The CEO needs to decide if you can spend $600?
Jesus :P
 
@pauska Well, no...but he approves the budget for IT
 
It sounds like he approves every purchase
 
1:32 PM
^
 
If he approved a budget, you'd have $x to work with for the whole year and he couldnt care less what you actually spent it on unless you go over or miss a major project
 
@ntrrgc pastebin your whole script
 
@MDMarra Our budget year-end is in December, so the VL licensing would go on next year's. We have to justify the $x with a list of things we'd be spending it on. They're known for slicing down the budget every year too.
It's crazy.
 
trololol
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Q: Why do Stack Exchange sites, particularly Stack Overflow, have chat rooms?

user2617804Chat rooms are so inefficient- Stack Overflow has a ridiculous number of chat rooms. I'd create a simple forum/subforum category (chat rooms can become threads or subsubforums) structure, kill the current ones and transfer their content to individual threads (I assume some people want that st...

 
Although, it could be done differently but I don't have my hand in the cookie jar ...I just request things :P
 
1:34 PM
@DanilaLadner hmm... too long, are you sure?
 
well request it!
 
If I had volume licensed office and windows I wouldn't be sitting here wondering why Office won't take this key I pulled off another machine
-_-
 
@ntrrgc yup
 
@tombull89 Dipshit.
 
1:46 PM
@MikeyB oh BURRRRN
 
@tombull89 Forums.... I shudder at the thought.
 
@ntrrgc i see here
sorry had to go
 
It seems to be ssh fault.
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Q: Prevent ssh from breaking up shell script parameters

KoertI have a script, which is essentially a wrapper around an executable by the same name on a different machine. For the sake of example, i'll wrap printf here. My current script looks like this: #!/bin/bash ssh user@hostname.tld. printf "$@" Unfortunately, this breaks when one of the arguments c...

 
i think in your case it is ssh fault
has nothing to do woth quotes
yeah, exactly
try this: ssh localhost rm 'foo bar'
does it try to rm the file foo bar, or the files foo and bar?
ssh doesn't honor arguments properly.
ssh user@host bash <<< "$(printf '%q ' "${mycommand[@]}")"
 
@MDMarra Yeah,, pretty awesome.
 
2:01 PM
@DanilaLadner It deletes foo and bar.
 
Mitt Romney is on the Rachael Ray show supporting his wife's new cookbook.
My my, how the mighty have fallen.
 
@ntrrgc exactly. because even though you passed it as a single argument, ssh wordsplits it for you.
 
Why are you watching Rachel Ray?
 
@ChrisS This is a good question. Giada or get out.
 
I tried to make a function to patch that behavior, and new problem.
 
2:04 PM
@ChrisS It's on after Kelly and Michael. Sometimes I accidently catch the first minute.
 
to be more precise, ssh MERGED rm and foo bar into a single string: "rm foo bar" and then passed that to the shell, which wordsplits it into rm, foo and bar.
 
How the heck do I an 'exec' inside of a function.
 
what do you mean?
 
@tombull89 funny part there is the guy raging about the downvotes. What did he expect?
 
@MDMarra Shouldn't you be working at 10am?
 
2:05 PM
Not necessarily
These next few weeks are "Learn SCOM"
I do that kind of stuff better in the evenings
 
Hmm... for the file redirection, but don't worry, now I noticed I don't need exec for that. The function does not output anything other than what ssh puts.
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to get Cisco switches to use CHAP when authenticating against a radius server for local login, rather than PAP?
 
Anyone else get unreasonably annoyed when transfers on the local LAN only get ~60MBps?
 
So I dick around in the mornings and answer emails when they come in until 10 or 11 ususally, get lunch, and then read SCOM Unleashed and play in the demo lab until 7 or 8
 
Ah - makes sense - Just a bit surprised you're work lets you do that. Most of the managers around here think everyone works best at the crack of dawn.
 
2:07 PM
I'm interested in this job, but I wanted other's opinions on it first: jobview.monster.com/…
 
@ChrisS I work from home when not at a customer and don't have anyone checking in on me ever
It's really a great gig. When it comes time to move on, it'll be hard to re-adjust
 
"Bioinformatics team" ...sounds like they took a couple words and smashed them together
 
@KevinSoviero Looks reasonable to me.
 
Scripting is an endless torrent of problems. No command supports enough arguments, ever.
 
@NathanC It's a real field. I believe @TomO'Connor has a degree in it, in fact.
 
2:10 PM
If you are consistently running out of arguments supported, you're doing it wrong.
 
It's biology and technology mixed. Using computers to model biological shit.
 
@ntrrgc switch to python my man
 
Its how Daleks happen
 
@NathanC You must not be anywhere near Cambridge MA :-)
 
@mfinni Nope, a few states away
 
2:11 PM
@MDMarra I do indeed.
 
@DanilaLadner I'm already a Python user, but that won't solve every problem.
 
It's weird the kind of things my brain retains.
 
@MDMarra Ah...like protein folding and all that stuff
 
What does "Competent knowledge in routine large dataset work flows" mean?
 
@MDMarra or sequence genomes, or figure out statistical genome expression from microarray assays
 
2:12 PM
I can't ever find my car keys but I know some guy in the UK that I know from the internet has a degree in bioinformatics.
2
 
@ntrrgc it does for most of my problems
and they are quite heterogenous.
 
@KevinSoviero Aka you know how servers munch on large datasets
:P
 
@KevinSoviero Without knowing your background, that sounds cool. Do you know much about compute clustering? Parallel stuff, not failover - usually done with scheduling batch apps.
 
The last dirty quirk I did was because there is no way to remove the SSH banner in rsync. Won't you reimplement rsync in Python, would you?
 
Ooh, ooh! I know things! ...just not those sort of things.
 
2:13 PM
@KevinSoviero It's for a HPC cluster, so it's talking about having knowledge of how HPC clusters manage scheduling/processing of large datasets. (probably)
 
@KevinSoviero Probably the types of scheduling apps. Might need to know something about the coding being done, or when you need to switch to/from inifinniband :-)
 
@mfinni And, no, I don't have any experience with computing clusters.
 
(The really really dirty and ugly quirk I did was a python (!) wrapper which examined the input of a command and filtered the banner)
 
and now the fun part of shoving crap kaspersky down this new PC's throat
 
2:13 PM
@mfinni have you worked with IB kit?
 
Oh wait, the server managing our antivirus service is locked up tight ...how amusing.
 
@MDMarra I have not. But i used to work for a pharma company that played with computer clusters on Solaris and Intel Linux, so I know a bit about the space from a "read some vendor articles on it" level
 
I love me some IB
 
@MDMarra I've not seen many bioinf clusters use IB, most just use Ethernet, as the inter-node communication isn't that heavy
 
@mfinni I want to get some Mellanox stuff, but we're a Cisco partner so it won't happen. Hyper-V 2012 R2 can do some cool stuff with RDMA but you need RoCE or IB for it to be supported
 
2:15 PM
@KevinSoviero It's not voodoo and they might be able to give you ramp-up space to learn it
 
Or, technically iWARP too but that doesn't really exist.
 
@TomO'Connor Yeah, to the tone of "work on this shit" and "here, have this shit that I finished working on"
 
@ntrrgc why did you need to get rid of ssh banner in the first place?
 
Because cron treated it as an error and emailed me every 5 minutes.
 
@NathanC Most of the clusters I've seen are just 10GE connected to a big-ass filer
 
2:16 PM
But I wanted to be notified of real errors.
 
If you don't mind cutting your teeth on outdated equipment, there's Mellanox stuff on eBay at ridiculously low prices.
 
No room outside of work for a lab
Unfortunately
 
Ah - time to rent a colo 1/4 rack
 
And since our demo datacenter where I'd want to hook it up is glassed-in and open to customers, I couldnt put it there
 
why am i so hungry at 10am :( i just ate like 3 hours ago
 
2:17 PM
cron treated stdout as an error?
 
@KevinSoviero Since it sounds like the computer cluster stuff is just part of the responsibility, I say go for it. You look solid as an infrastructure guy on paper, a chance to learn some new tech is always a plus
 
@mfinni Works for me, thanks!
 
Yes.
No!
It treated stderr as error.
Even without returning non-zero.
 
(probably)
 
@ntrrgc why banner was treated as stderr?
 
2:22 PM
@DanilaLadner Because if it were treated as stdout pipes wouldn't work.
Like in ssh server make me a sandwich > sandwich
 
I see.
 
2 output channels seem to be not enough for every case.
 
try creating a file (touch it) called .hushlogin in the ~ of the user you're logging in as.
 
But this is the way UNIX is.
 
touches @TomO'Connor
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2:26 PM
@TomO'Connor It's a banner, not a MOTD.
 
:D
@ntrrgc Figs.
was this for ssh?
 
Figs?
Yes.
 
@ntrrgc Das Bus episode of the simpsons. Lisa is about to say Oh Fuck, but says Oh Figs. It stuck with me.
 
<ed> I get a tad weirded out when he prays on his prayer rag in the cubicle
<ed> He says he's facing Mecca. My GPS says he's facing Detroit.
<ed> He's going to end up in Heaven with 77 Pintos and a Ford Maverick.
bash.org gem
 
Try setting Banner /dev/null in sshd_config
brb. meeting
 
2:28 PM
Oh, I've have not watched it in English.
@TomO'Connor I could, but it's somewhat disturbing to edit a server setting in order to make a client script work.
(when the server is fine)
 
mornin' gents.
 
morning.
 
@ntrrgc is it fine? Or it just in denial?
 
Hate - He has it:
 
@ntrrgc You never know with those servers.
 
2:34 PM
It's fine.
 
@ChrisS And clearly in the evaporated condensed variety.
 
@ChrisS: that is clearly a sysadmin owl.
 
This is kinda lowball, isn't it? web.suffieldacademy.org/ils/jobs/netsysadmin.shtml
 
@mfinni Level II/III - Junior to Intermediate. I'm not familiar with cost of living in Suffield, Connecticut, but $60K would be "pretty good" for a II/III here in Rochester, NY.
 
@jscott Suffield is north of hartford, not too far from springfield MA. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live a commutable distance from it, i fled the burbs for a reason
 
2:51 PM
Hey can Windows Server 2012 do the SSD acceleration thing that Windows 7 can do?
 
Kaspersky is bound to give me an ulcer
brand new install...says it's not activated. Activate it with the license, all is good for about 5 seconds then it complains it's not activated again :<
live chat doesn't work either, and they haven't responded to my tickets in over 2 weeks
 
room topic changed to The Comms Room: This is *NOT a place for 'Live Support', ask on the main site. // 4 Oct 2004 SpaceShipOne was launched from White Knight, reaching an altitude of 112km before landing at Mojave airport and winning the X-Prize. [be-the-change] [pwned-by-a-wild-markdown]*
 
In SOVIET RUSSIA they kaspersky live chat you.
 
I had to go through a different area of the site to get to it...
 
Mr. Dobalina, Mr. Bob Dobalina. Mr. Mr. Dobalina, Mr. Bob Dobalina
Love me some old school.
 
3:09 PM
@mfinni "Though our salaries may be lower than those outside of K-12, we provide a terrific working environment and a wide array of benefits."
 
@MikeyB I've never worked in .edu, that's why I was wondering how much lower this might be.
 
20-25%
 
@mfinni For a junior position, I would wild-ass-guess it's maybe 5-10K under the usual range outside K12.
 
@MikeyB Sounds good. I sent it along to a friend down in CT, just curious about it
 
@mfinni Seems like a decent place for a junior admin to really cut their teeth on a real environment.
Sigh.
Guidelines for speccing out this SQL server for a particular app:
2 Processors, Intel E5-2643
32-64GB Memory, or 50% of database size, whichever is greater
8 SAS hard drives (15,000 rpm) or enterprise class SSDs
2 drives in RAID1 for Operating System & SQL Server
4 drives in RAID10 for database data files
2 drives in RAID1 for database log files
RAID controller with 1+GB cache memory

Estimated DB size: 25GB
*passes the spliff*
 
3:22 PM
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
 
@TomO'Connor while true; do eject; sleep 2; eject -t; sleep 2; done
 
@mfinni When I left at $university I was making $62k as a Senior Systems Admin running their vSphere, storage, and Windows Servers
Educational pay sucks
They make it up in benefits though, like tons of vacation and tuition remission - though at a 9-12 school there's no useful tuition benefit and that place looks like you need to work 6 days a week during the school year
 
In K-12 edu, at least here, we pay a pittance for health/dental. I think it's 90/10 employer/employee. Summer hours 2.5 months a year -- 7 hour days with 1 hour lunch. Atmosphere (some aspects) is relaxed compared to corplife. Downside: Dealing with lots of stuff/configurations that would probably get me booted from SF if I ever asked "how should I..."
 
3:39 PM
I do miss summer hours
We did 4x9 hour days (plus 1h lunch) and had fridays off from late june-aug
And I don't think I paid a dime for medical/dental
They did suspend retirement matching during the recession though
 
It might sound weird, but I enjoy the large scale hardware replacements during the summer. Need to replace 500+ workstations? Sure not a problem. It's mindless work, but you develop processes and logistics almost automatically. Plus the project has a beginning, middle and end. It doesn't drag on forever like some of the other crap we're stuck supporting.
 
Oh dude that was the best
Drag my feet making images all summer, get it done a week before mov-in. NO SWEAT
 
I wouldn't want to do 500 desktops.. But I generally agree with that sentiment.
 
Have helpdesk walk around and press F12 1,000 times
I got to reimage almost the entire campus twice a year (minus offices of course)
It was awesome for learning. Oh, I should have deployed X this way instead? I'll get it right over winter break.
 
@ChrisS Well, our team is six people, including me. We all join in the replacement fun... help desk, techs, me.
 
3:46 PM
83 desktops each doesn't sound nearly so bad
 
I'm not counting the programmers, although one of them used to be our co-op/intern and he spent a summer spray painting a stencil logo on a few hundred notebooks.
 
@jscott Lucky you
 
Earlier this week a colleague and I got to unbox, update and config 240 ChromeBooks. It generated a bit of trash:
 
We had 5 helpdesk techs and two Windows admims (including me) when I left and the other admin did strictly Exchange work.
 
3:51 PM
awesome
 
@jscott I hope you recycled at least some of that....
 
@DanilaLadner For whatever reason, Lenovo doesn't have a bulk-boxed SKU for ChromeBooks, so everyone came in it's own little box.
@ChrisS Oh all the cardboard made it to the correct recycling bin. I personally took the time to flatten all the boxes.
 
Good man =]
 
@MDMarra That's close to our split. We've 3 "Network Technicians" (one poor guy is dedicated to Help Desk) and 3 "Senior network Technicians" (I'm one of these). They're Civil Service titles, so they really just placeholders.
 
3:56 PM
Civil Service?
Do you get a sweet-ass government pension?
 
@MDMarra Yes.
Sort of.
 
Does it also qualify you for a 403(B)?
 
I get 403(b) but i am not sure what is the difference from 401(k)
 
Less audited because of exemptions
 
why oh why did i forget to update office before bringing the machine over to the other building :<
 
3:59 PM
And the employee owns the 403B account, whereas sometimes corporations own the 401K account
 

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