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4:00 PM
it was downloading the patch at ~50 KB/s, so I came back here to download it and shove it on a flash drive lol
 
There's no major difference, but 403B is favorable for a few smaller differences
 
@MDMarra Yes, we qualify for 403B also.
 
I still have 3 403Bs that I haven't rolled over
 
I think you can max around $16,500 a year.
 
I dont have a 401K yet with my current company and didnt bother setting up a Roth IRA
 
4:01 PM
Sup
 
So I'm just letting them sit and collect dust and putting the money that should go toward retirement toward my wife's 7% grad school loans instead
@Cole sup
 
Got rear-ended last night, and it wasn't even by @TomO'Connor
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Car's in the shop
 
@Cole So many responses
 
Rental is a 2012 Civic
 
@Cole you rented a Congressman?
 
4:03 PM
lulz
 
@MDMarra I'm also whittling down some shared debts for my family. Nothing on the order of 7% though!
 
had my job interview at 7:30 till 9:45AM
 
@Cole How'd the interview go?
 
I think it went well.
Their environment is similar where I'm at now - just current OSes and they actually have a budget
 
@jscott Grad loans. All federal, but 7% nonetheless
@Cole nice
 
4:05 PM
Their Technical Lead - she was on point technically. Just really nice to see how technical the whole group was. Even the manager still knew a fair amount.
 
@MDMarra bend over and take your loan.
 
@voretaq7 her loan
I got my education for free, sucker!
 
Fucker
 
Technically 6.8% but still
@Cole what kind of questions did they ask?
 
Luckily it was more of a conversation than rapid fire technical questions
 
4:07 PM
I like those better
 
Everything from "What are the key components for PXE boot" to "How would you handle remote file and print server migrations"
@MDMarra me too.
 
DHCP, TFTP, FUCK YOU!
DFS, DUMBASS!
 
They asked a question I've never been asked before
 
I wouldnt have gotten that job
@Cole Like what?
 
"What kind of learner are you?"
 
4:09 PM
"sexual"
 
Damn, I should have said that
 
yeah you would have locked it up
I'm sure you still did good though
 
@Cole So, nothing like your current job, then
 
The technical lead seemed very impressed.
Plus, most of the storage is NetApp.....so
 
@MDMarra You married her, right?
 
4:10 PM
and they use EMC NetWorker
 
Marry the woman, marry her debt!
 
@voretaq7 Shit, I've got to go get that ring back/
 
@voretaq7 I actually don't think that's true
 
@MDMarra for divorce purposes you can argue any debts incurred before marriage are not "marital debts"
 
@mfinni Fun fact, if you propose on a holiday and you dont get married, you have no legal standing to ask for the ring back. It is considered a gift for the holliday.
 
4:11 PM
otherwise, marry the woman - marry her debt.
 
@MDMarra Not literally, but it certainly takes up household income
 
@voretaq7 If she dies I dont have to pay it
 
Kill her.
 
@MDMarra yes, but then you also lose the free sex whenever you want it perk.
 
@Cole ಠ_ಠ
 
4:12 PM
Free sex whenever you want? Lies.
 
@voretaq7 You sir have not been married.
 
@voretaq7 Liar.
 
@Cole That escalated quickly.
 
@mfinni Nope. Never gonna be either
I recognize that false advertising
 
Sex in any relationship comes at a cost.
lol comes.
 
4:13 PM
"Free sex whenever you want it" for marriage is like "Unlimited Internet" on a phone plan
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I'M AN ADULT!
 
@Cole yeah, you and Griffin adult real good.
 
ah finally headache is gone
 
@Cole By "headache" i assume you mean "my car"
 
My car is not a POS - i'm sad it got hit :(
 
4:16 PM
I'd like to stay for more LOLs but lunch is calling me.
 
hate writing thank you letters
"THANKS FOR TALKING TO ME. GIVE ME JOB KTHX"
 
@voretaq7 Never?
Even if you're in a long term committed relationship, even if it's just for the federal tax status and next-of-kin pull-the-plug decisions?
 
Also, I should know today if I got it
 
@MDMarra Dude, I HATE people
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oh right
carry on
 
4:19 PM
and seriously, with the fucking queers in NY my chances of finding someone spouse worthy are slim to none anyway
I can't even remember the last time I went on a date
 
Southern CT is right there
You can find a sugar daddy that will teach you how to play water polo
 
@MDMarra fuck that noise, I can get that here
 
(not a euphemism)
 
(I know! I've had offers. Creepy bastards.)
 
Water polo is that popular on long island?
 
4:22 PM
@MDMarra no, but the creepy bastards like to see their trophy twinks in speedos
 
makes sense
 
From DICE: "Employers cannot find you...yet.". GOOD. I don't want them to :p
 
Who here has canceled cable?
 
@Cole raises hand Maybe a year and half ago?
 
@jscott do you miss it?
 
4:31 PM
@Cole No
 
42GB data taking up 15 GB disk space on my laptop. This dedup hack is the greatest
 
Thinking about canceling cable
 
Apple TV, NetFlix, iTunes, etc, etc, etc.
But I don't follow sports, which seems to be a big contention point for some.
 
As long as I don't cancel both my cable and internet - I wont have to pay the contract cancellation fee - will i? (Verizon)
 
@Cole Hmmm... Idk, Time Warner here isn't contract, at least I've never had one. I just went to the dvr box and remote to one of their service offices and it was cancelled.
 
4:34 PM
Hm. I can call
 
Hi guys
 
sup @MathiasR.Jessen
 
<molo> C:>ping god
<molo> Ping request could not find host god. Please check the name and try again.
<molo> it's true, god doesn't exist
<mrmin123> maybe he's just having DNS problems
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lulz
 
I've just downloaded the 8.1 Enterprise ISO and received a new harddisk... I'm not sure if I should stay at the office to reinstall and join the domain... or if I can do it over vpn from home
not site-to-site vpn, software vpn client on my laptop
 
4:38 PM
@MathiasR.Jessen What would Honeybadger do?
 
@Wesley I'll reach home before I figure that out
 
5:04 PM
@cole <3
 
You know you have too many windows open when you make liberal use of the "show desktop" button to reorganize it.
 
@TomO'Connor you can rear end me any day :-*
 
@Cole :3
 
@Cole Never had cable. Between Netflix and Amazon Prime I get all the TV I need. I guess I've been off it so long I don't mind the lag time (new show on Netflix = new show I've never seen.) Do miss sports though...
 
Yeah but with the antenna i can get local sports and stuff
 
5:17 PM
Meh, I went without cable. Not home enough...and when I'm home i tend to not watch it anyway
 
sigh I really do wish people would try a little harder.
Got an email from a headhunter asking why I'm looking for another position. Dude's email is a comcast.com email that came with his cable service....
 
@Magellan Maybe he's had it since 1998 and doesn't want to give it up? I used to have an Excite@home address...
 
@mfinni Sure, but using a Comcast email for your business that is ostensibly trying to operate a headhunting service for IT staff?
 
@Magellan I was mostly jokinh. if it's a service, yup, i agree with you. If it's one dude (who knows his shit), that's a differently-colored horse
 
@Magellan hahanope.
 
5:27 PM
@mfinni Yeah, I dunno. It's one dude, sure. But if there's no online information for this 'one dude', how the hell do I know he's even remotely legit?
 
@Magellan Oh, that's sketch. <plonk>
 
So, I learned something...we only have 50 kaspersky licenses. Guess how many PCs we have? Hint: it's more than 50.
 
Speaking of headscratchers, I'm being asked to fill out yet another NDA form for my 2nd interview with the place I interviewed at yesterday. It's not like the previous one even had a field for the date anyway.
 
Fedora 19 is faptastic
 
Looks like we have an Oracle eBusiness Suite job open. Care to spread it around? ohiouniversityjobs.com/postings/7648
 
5:35 PM
@Magellan So, do you prefer propane or electric forklifts? =)
 
@Wesley Electric. I don't care for the propane smell. Plus propane's expensive here, but electricity is dirt cheap.
Then again, I've never driven big forklifts either, just little ones.
 
@Magellan Yeah, I was always amazed at the telescoping one that I saw at my last employer.
Electric, very silent, and the lift took the operator up as well.
So the operator had to be harnessed in and all that, and the tines could rotate 90 degrees 25 feet in the air.
Was amazing.
 
@Wesley Sounds like what Sandra needs to install her 1u servers.
 
@Wesley Oh hey, a forklift of nope
 
@Wesley Cool. I'm not a big fan of heights, but 25' isn't too bad.
Window washing on the 70th floor? Big bowl of Nope, right there.
 
5:41 PM
@Magellan I get queazy in malls that are three stories high and have lookout points that can see the ground floor.
 
@Wesley Yeah, so do I. The cantilevered mall floors worry me. Seen too many Engineering Fail type shows where the hotel skywalks fall in and stuff.
 
"I'm sorry, you called the help desk and you're beyond help. We support users, but the concept of supporting something implies matter with mass and there's nothing in your head of substance."
Can I say that?
Would that be bad?
I think that would be bad
 
you can say whatever you like
you might only get to say it once, though
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Technically I'm not help desk, but I get these darned radio stations emailing me with the dumbest things on behalf of my streaming client.
I do not understand how the broadcast industry has lasted.
 
@Wesley I'm saving that one for later.
 
5:45 PM
These people couldn't find their ass with both hands.
 
@Wesley It didn't used to be that way. It's gotten a lot worse in the past 20 years though. They don't actually hire much engineering staff anymore.
 
I want to know why it's taken over 24 hours to power a vm back on
 
@RyJones For your system to power it on or for some numb nuts to get around to it?
 
Someone in San Jose needs to remote in to Seattle to turn on my VM
 
@Magellan Yeah, it appears that there are no "engineers" - just people that know enough about audio from running a 20 year old Mackie sound board at church and remember that blue is line in and green is line out.
 
5:47 PM
I can't tell bleen from grue
 
Oh shit. Ry invoked a grue. We're all gonna get eaten.
@RyJones I feel a little dirty. Interviewed for the "Tacoma" position (actually in Federal Way) through Insight.
 
I recycled 80% of my XP virtual machines yesterday. Good times.
 
snap
I'm so useless today.
 
@Magellan oh no, that's a hell of a haul
 
@RyJones Distance is about the same for me as going to Bellevue.
 
5:50 PM
well, here's to something better coming through :)
 
@RyJones Tough not to be better. It's an AIX position.
 
ah, I liked SMIT
 
@RyJones Yeah, AIX sounds kind of interesting. I've done worse. The biggest problem is sussing out why they've turned over most of their local office. You don't lose 2/3 of your staff and a hiring manager that's departing soon for no good reason at all.
 
<malaclypse> The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"
 
@ChrisS IRC has nothing to do with that. That's people in general.
 
5:57 PM
=]
 
@ChrisS What is the name of that site, I can't remember and it has been driving me crazy for days
 
@ChrisS One, if you're lucky.
@RyanRies bash.org, mentioned up above a while ago
 
Thaaaat's right
For some reason I've been thinking about that site for days but I forgot its name
 
@Cole Ever gotten drunk while on ADD meds?
 
@MathiasR.Jessen i got drunk one time with OTC meds
 
6:00 PM
@MathiasR.Jessen of course.
 
@Cole I am right now, drank a few beers at the office before leaving, like an hour after 10mg of ritalin, and I have never felt so tired in my head
 
hahaha
 
Like, my body is totally awake, but my brain is ready to go to sleep any time now
 
It's so weird
 
aka. Can't brain - I has the dumb
 
6:01 PM
Smoking weed is even weirder on ADD meds
 
@ChrisS Sometimes you're lucky to get one, let alone two.
 
@Cole Really? My doctor said that the effects of THC and methylphenidate were so alike in ADD patients that it didn't really matter. THC just feels more invasive
 
@MathiasR.Jessen It's like you're in super slow mo
I'm off my adderall though
 
@DanilaLadner Haven't we all? :P
 
i'm on no medication but obviously my testosterone.
 
6:06 PM
Where's @ewwhite been? Has anyone checked in on him since his whole infrastructure fell over like a row of dominos?
 
@Cole I'm in no place to say this, as I haven't tried it (since adderall is not available in the EU) but it might be different from the side effects of Ritalin/Concerta
 
@MDMarra What happened? :@
 
I think he lost half of his core or something a while ago, which also took down NFS storage
or something like that
 
wow, bad news that
 
@MDMarra Didn't they get their ass handed to them by SEA?
 
6:10 PM
Not sure what SEA is
 
@MathiasR.Jessen I'd like to try a non-stimulant ADD med
 
@MathiasR.Jessen Oh right
 
I wonder if they're patching things now
 
6:12 PM
ouchies
 
@MDMarra Last time I had to deal with intrusion (not as severe though) I spent 4 days non-stop in like, total isolation, just double-checking everything, reporting to management, playing detective etc.
then I slept
 
So glad I don't deal with an infrastructure of my own.
 
I'm so glad I don't do that part of IR
 
I really want to know what it takes to get that guy to quit a job. If the FBI showed up at my work and started asking questions, I'd sure as hell be updating my resume.
 
SCOTT!
 
6:14 PM
@ScottPack wuss
 
@Tanner He's worked at approximately 50 places in the last 3 years. I think he's trying to stick it out.
 
@MathiasR.Jessen I don't get off on the adrenaline rush enough to want to do that.
@MDMarra Hey sweetness.
 
@ScottPack You'll be proud to know that I left the apartment yesterday.
Went and got lunch and toilet paper from the local grocery store!
 
@MDMarra I'm in the office today.
 
Isn't that far?
 
6:16 PM
About 90 miles.
 
Why can't the machine empty the K-cup bin itself? THIS IS NOT THE FUTURE THAT I WAS PROMISED.
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@MDMarra Guess you didn't have many options for the second item. Once you start using dirty tees, the old lady complains. Wait until you have a kid, you'll get curious about the baby wipes.
 
@ScottPack It's not just the adrenaline rush, you also learn how to... handle yourself, when you face imminent crisis. And I've learned a lot of technical stuff as well, just out of necessity in the midst of a storm... But at some point I'll probably grow tired of it as well
 
@jscott Nah she does a good job picking that up on the way home from work if I ask. I just really wanted to be in public
 
ps. The baby wipes work wonders.
 
6:19 PM
I use the Cottonelle(sp?) wipes
 
Ed's here, he's busy playing copy editor: serverfault.com/questions/543621/…
 
A puppy?
 
ED TURNED INTO A PUPPY!?
 
@MathiasR.Jessen Oh sure. What you need is someone who gets off enough on the adrenaline rush to want to do it but can also stay calm.
@MathiasR.Jessen I just don't like feeling rushed. That's one of the reasons I enjoy doing the post-incident investigation. All the fun of forensics with a much lower risk of subpoena.
 
@ScottPack knock knock goes the FBI
"So I hear you had data stolen. Not to worry, the NSA had it anyway."
 
6:24 PM
@NathanC It happens sometimes. You get used to it. :)
 
@ScottPack That's my favorite part as well, puzzling the pieces together, playing Captain Hindsight... but I'm still fairly "good at playing" the stay-calm-but-stay-excited SIMA game, and it's hard to say no when people ask for help - especially when no-one else is up for the challenge
 
Hrmm... getting a "The user name or password is incorrect" error when trying to RDP into a server from one computer, but able to log in fine from another computer...
 
@jscott Baby wipes are too weird and oily. I don't know what it is in those things. These on the other hand...pampers.com/flushable-wipes-kandoo
 
@RyanRies Cached credentials?
 
@RyanRies Network Level Authentication or not?
 
6:26 PM
@MathiasR.Jessen My team lead generally is the IR guy who gets to run the show. That works out well. :)
 
:11528530 Gonna have an email for you about the scheduler in a few minutes. TL;DR User error, but curious event logs.
 
I like the forensics stuff
 
@NathanC Poking dead bodies is fun!
 
Let me rephrase - The credentials let me through the NLA prompt, but then GINA subsequently gives me an error
 
Wait, that's what we're talking about right?
@RyanRies That hussie!
 
6:27 PM
hehe
 
@RyanRies Both callers are in the same domain/realm ?
 
No, the working one is in the same domain, the non working one is in a different domain
 
Domain trusts...?
 
This was working before, so something changed/broke, I just don't know what
No trust
 
huh...this CNAME record isn't resolving...
 
6:30 PM
@RyanRies I'm thinking maybe the caller treats the identity "targetdomain\username" as a local account... hmmm
 
I shall keep investigating
I would post on main but I'm too lazy right now to get all the dcdiag stuff and the security event log stuff
 
@RyanRies are you doing anything crazy like passing smartcards over RDP?
I assume no
 
@MDMarra Well actually I am doing smart cards over RDP, but it's not enforced so you can use a password instead if you need to. When attempting to use the smart card, it says "credentials could not be validated," and when using username/pw, it says "user name or password is incorrect"
 
hm
 
maybe you were fired and don't know it?
 
6:35 PM
Dammit. Chef client bug regression.
 
Hehehehe
 
@RyanRies Ask away, I want to earn back all the AD rep you steal when I'm asleep :D
 
Haha
Friendly competition is healthy :)
 
I love it when recruiters send me emails but their scraper gets the wrong fields and the email is addressed to someone else's first name.
That or someone changed my name to Douglas.
 
6:37 PM
I got this the other day
 
@MDMarra Real All-Stars, that group.
 
Yep
 
lol
 
The guy is even a connection on LinkedIn and I've talked to him about tech jobs
What a moron
 
R0ar
 
6:39 PM
Had to drop my hourly rate $3 but the recruiter said that it's between me and this other guy - but my rate is higher.
 
@Cole "Hire me right meow"
 
@MDMarra Yet the mildly mentally-challenged cashier at one of the local stores that I visit periodically remembered me well enough to ask me if I'd decided to start parting my (admittedly long) hair to one side or the other yet.
 
@Cole Don't sweat it. Salary is only a small part of the total cost of an employee
 
It's a contract
 
@Cole lol, read it as "Had to drop my hourly rate of $3"
 
6:40 PM
@Cole ah
 
oh yay, 503 errors on my iis site
 
so I need to compensate for the benefits lost
 
@_@
 
C2H?
 
but it's contract to perm most likely
3-6 months
they're trying to get the FT position req.
 
6:41 PM
I've had more than one place offer to convert their C2H to direct hire, but a lot of places won't
 
@MDMarra Manager said they've actively trying to get the full time req.
 
Well, good luck
 
Thanks. I hope I get it
I'm so done with this place
if I don't, I'll probably cry.
 
@MDMarra yeah, I won't even bother interviewing for positions that aren't c2h anymore.
 
@MDMarra my rate was $60/hr - dropped it to $57/hr
 
6:42 PM
@Magellan why?
 
but I'm losing out on my 401K matching ,paid internet, short commute, etc
 
@Cole damn. That's more that I've ever quoted.
 
@Magellan well I'm awesome
 
Won't interview for anything that is contract
 
@MDMarra I desperately need to get out of here that's why I am
 
6:43 PM
@MDMarra Sorry, meant contract positions that aren't c2h. I don't much trust recruiters anymore.
 
Ohhhh right. Got it
 
Specially now that I'm pretty much twice-bitten.
 
Even c2h I tell them that if they're really interested in me they'll make it a fte direct hire
 
If it wasn't for the severance, I'd be screwed already.
 
its only worked a couple times and I turned them all down anyway
 
6:44 PM
LOL
Just got this email from my boss
Do we need to budget for any new servers next year?  Please take a look at what is physical and staying physical and see if we need to replace anything.  A few that come to mind are FTP and Intranet, but anything that is low on disk or out of support should be looked at.

Also, please review systems in other locations such as Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Canada, etc. and let me know how things are there.

Try and get me the info by next Wednesday.
We don't even have any inventory
We have no idea where any of our servers are and you want this information? You're on fucking crack.
 
@Cole How big is the machine footprint there anyway?
 
@Magellan on site - about 200-250 virtual, 100-150 physical.
but 85 sites worldwide
 
That place really sounds like a small business that got big but all the managers are still there from when it was tiny and they're still doing everything the same way.
 
@Magellan It's a business that everyone who's here has only worked here.
 
You need some system center, bro. SCOM+SCSM will inventory that right up.
 
6:48 PM
Average employee has been here for 15-20+ years
 
@Cole Ugh. Might as well be a family business then. All the problems and none of the benefits of a tightly-knit organization
 
Okay...I somehow completely broke IIS...
 
@MDMarra won't happen, I asked. "Use CA"
 
I get a HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable. even on the simple "II7" page
I copied the configuration from another server and used the "shared configuration" thing so it should be working...
 
I've never done a domain migration/NT4 migration
Anyone know the answer to this?
Thanks. All users are Corp users and have been migrated from the NT4 domain and so have dual SIDs.

What I was wondering was if a server only has tu-domain1 (NT4) permissions, then when the NT4 domain goes will users/groups still have access?

But then I suppose if we have also migrated the groups (which we have) then the groups will have a dual SID too. Is that right?
 
6:51 PM
ah...the apppool wasn't started
 
@Cole lolz nt -> ad migration ... 2013 ... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Well lets hope I'm not here for it!!!!!!!!
@Zypher they just implemented AD in 2007.
 
hahahahaha
suckers
 
I have no idea the answer to his question.
 
@Cole how were the users migrated? ADMT?
 
6:54 PM
@MDMarra I'm going to assume so.
 
@Cole I assume he means the files on the server have ACLs that contain the old SID. Since the users have both SIDS, it will continue to work.
 
They dont have two SIDs, they have a SID for the new domain and the SID history for the old domain
 
@mfinni I thought so.
@MDMarra ok so then.....they're good
 
@MDMarra Right right, I was accepting the inaccurate shorthand
 
@Cole the right thing to do is to use ADMT to translate the security on those servers
It will automatically crawl the filesystem of the server and update anything that's olddomain\group to newdomain\group as long as that ADMT server migrated that group (or user)
 
6:56 PM
Awesome
and then it can be removed from NT and added to the AD domain ,yes?
 
If you're going to do that might as well just use ADMT to migrate the server to the new domain
 
@MDMarra ah
 
part of the server migration is security translation
 
Well fuck yes
As long as the users and groups were migrated with ADMT?
 
@MDMarra I was assuming it was a server that was migrated but didn't have the perms migrated
 
6:57 PM
I thought you meant this was a server in your new domain that had ACLs that reference the old domain
 
Ah no, this server is on the NT4 domain
 
@mfinni You can run security translation independently of a server migration too in that case
 
needs to get migrated to the AD domain
 
@Cole THEN MIGRATE IT! :-)
 
@Cole Ya, then use ADMT to move it to your domain and check the "translate security" box
 
6:57 PM
@MDMarra As long as the old domain exists, yup
 
@MDMarra and then wham bam thank ya ma'am?
 
@Cole Then you're done
Migrate all users and groups first
That ensures that everything is in the ADMT database
 
Robert's your mother's brother
 
Then migrate the server with security translation and BAM, done
 
Why does this server completely REFUSE to do something correctly...
 

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