@TheCleaner The idea is that you don't give it direct database access, but that you give the presentation code (the view) a way to submit data to an intermediate business-logic layer (the controller) that has access to your database (represented by the model). So, from a security perspective, you can implement MVC concepts even without using an MVC framework.
security wise, will the source code on the page tell people what the SUBMIT button is doing in the background? ie. will myinternalserverWANIP.com/whereverthisisgettingPOSTed be listed externally? would the public have any knowledge where the POST is going?
@MichaelHampton - the scary part is they are coming to me asking me how to make it happen. Hence the original "grrr."
@MichaelHampton - they came by today "hey...umm...the external website doesn't have access to the database like our test site we built on our computer at our desk does. How can we fix that?"
@TheCleaner I wouldn't worry too much about giving the public web site some limited access to the internal database, say to insert and update records. It's really no worse than a web site in your DMZ having such access.
@MichaelHampton "To us, VMware offers a lot of bells-and-whistles (product extension nice-to-haves) — but are these bells-and-whistles worth a 40% price premium?"
@TheCleaner @MichaelHampton's suggested approach is good. The customer POSTs the form to an external web site, which POSTs the same data to an internal URL that exists solely to receive those submissions, and that site is responsible for sanitizing input and inserting it into the database. Aso, don't forget that you might want some sort of a captcha on that form, even if it's just a text query intended to prevent only the dumbest of automated spam postings.
@TheCleaner Yeah, things like that. And even if you implement this two-POST approach, some other user on that host could theoretically read your code and start sending you fake data.
@MilesErickson - is your situation similar to a buddy of mine? He used to work 6 months contract and then take off somewhere overseas for 6 months. Single, traveled, worked if he felt like it (remote programming contracts). Or is this a whole family thing?
@TheCleaner It's a sad story, but we remain friends and we remain in love. Bittersweet crazy, that, considering I know a lot of people who have fallen out of love and stayed married.
@ewwhite Mostly context (where we live) and availability; if I'm going to be a father, I want to be the best one I possibly can be. Doing important things halfway isn't how I roll.
@MilesErickson - I read you wrong...still sad for you, but I read it as the wife wants "custody" of the kids as of yesterday. I'm also guessing you don't literally mean yesterday.
kids are great for some, not for others, and some just aren't quite ready. Sorry that it takes divorce in your case to be the solution. Everyone's situation is unique so don't let people judge or criticize what you and your wife are choosing to do.
@TheCleaner Oh, we're not. Nor are we letting people take sides or criticize the other. We have given this our absolute best effort at resolution, and neither one of us is angry.
Understand @MilesErickson - don't know you from Adam but hopefully this trip will bring about what you are looking to get out of it, even if it is just to get away.
honestly, we love our kids. Never felt a "love" quite like it. I love my wife and always put her above our kids, but 8 years ago when our first was born I realized what it meant when someone said they would kill someone if they ever harmed their kid.
@TheCleaner It kind of pisses me off when a friend is like "Omg I love my kids so much". I'm like "I've known you for years, you barely met this kid. Where are MY hugs and kisses"
So, after bringing a third system into the mix, and experiencing the same issue, we began to question the environment. I dug up a copy of the HP ProLiant Servers Troubleshooting Guide and found the POST problems flowchart shown below.
Carefully running through the steps in the chart, we realiz...
@JoelESalas - lol, well it is flesh and blood, plus they don't have to support you for 18 years :) . It's a very strange internal "knowing" somehow with your kids. I can't quite explain it, and I know plenty that have no kids and I don't look down on them for not having any, it was just right for us.
@WesleyDavid I've done a lot more of the latter than the former to be honest, almost permanently super nauseous, but I've only been sick maybe a dozen times in 9 weeks+, whereas I'm on the loo at least an hour a day
@ewwhite - interesting. So the KVM connects to the RILOE board (I'm assuming that's the Lights out board, haven't used one of their servers since Compaq in the 90s) instead of the normal video on the back/mainboard? Does the RILOE not have the ability to get a console video via IP (basically remote KVM)? Just curious why the KVM doesn't plug simply into the mainboard.
Gotcha. well that's good. We/I use Raritan kvm's but they rarely get touched. Typically I just remote into the IBM IMM on the server if I need to see the "console". Regardless, glad you guys thought of checking it.
@MichaelHampton There's something wrong with our country when an idea like that no longer gets someone hung for treason, shot in the genitals, or both.
Seattle is having a bad week for spontaneous combustion of vehicles. First, we find out that Boeing has been shipping the 787 with gigantic Lithium-Ion batteries -- you know, even though they're so dangerous that small ones aren't allowed in checked baggage -- and that the passengers and crew were lucky the battery went up on the ground. And then this morning we find out that our commuter buses have a similar feature.
@MilesErickson shrug They're not actually dangerous. Just another bullshit rule we get to put up with because we put lawyers and bureaucrats in charge of the world, rather than into dog food, like we should have.
@RyanRies Have you seen any rupture at an altitude of ~35,000 feet? You know the boiling point of water is much lower. The reaction of other things might be different to in the case of a pressure loss.
Anyway, laptop batteries are scary and they could hurt a handful of people if they explode. On the other hand, batteries large enough to be powering major aircraft systems are likely large enough to take out major aircraft systems.
@r.tanner.f At 3 minutes per disk, assuming no breaks and a 2088-hour work year, it takes your user only 4 work years to complete the backup. It's static data, I presume?
@r.tanner.f It's worth noting that your user also could store 2GB of data in Amazon Glacier for about 25 cents per year... which means that in the four years it would take to back up to floppies, you would pay roughly the cost of a single floppy.
So, after bringing a third system into the mix, and experiencing the same issue, we began to question the environment. I dug up a copy of the HP ProLiant Servers Troubleshooting Guide and found the POST problems flowchart shown below.
Carefully running through the steps in the chart, we realiz...
