The Comms Room

4:08 AM

@MarkHenderson how do you scrap off SE chat ?

27 mins ago, by Mark Henderson

so i have this friend that works in the HR of a larger company. he told me what he does when he gets like 200 resumes he basically just throws away 100 of them to the gutter and tells himself: "we don't need people that aren't lucky".

jscott

36 secs ago, by Shane Madden

27 mins ago, by Mark Henderson

Apr 13 at 13:00, by pfo

so i have this friend that works in the HR of a larger company. he told me what he does when he gets like 200 resumes he basically just throws away 100 of them to the gutter and tells himself: "we don't need people that aren't lucky".

Mark Henderson

@HackToHell Screen scraping is super easy

Just pull this uRL: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/127/…

jscott

Neat!

Shane Madden

@jscott Oh, you weren't around for that? We broke the layout with too many nested quotes.

jscott

4:10 AM

Any way to sort by number of stars?

Mark Henderson

Repeat and rinse until you get a page with < 50 quotes, or the page is identical to the previous page, or while you're parsing the contents, stop when you reach a star ID less than the previous maximum

@jscott Only by fetching all 30k stars and then running a manual query. But of the rooms and pages I scraped, anything > 20 stars was exceedingly rare

jscott

@MarkHenderson So there's no API for SE chat?

HackToHell

Last time I tried, I kept getting HTTP 409 errors

Mark Henderson

@jscott Nope and an official chat API has already been shot down by SE management

voretaq7

@jscott they've been very anti-API

Mark Henderson

4:12 AM

I don't blame them really, how useful would a chat API really be?

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson well we could integrate it with an IRC client

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 Sorry but IRC sucks

jscott

@MarkHenderson Well, you're doing it "by hand" so maybe "somewhat useful"?

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson no, IRC people suck

IRC itself is not bad at all

though I prefer the automatic searchable archiving of SE chat

and the star wall is nice

Mark Henderson

@jscott I'm probably the first person ever

jscott

4:15 AM

Wow, you guys have starred over 29K things.

@MarkHenderson Wasn't there another guy, GeorgeEdison or some such, playing around with chat?

Mark Henderson

@jscott Yeah but his name isn't really GEORGE EDISON AT ALL

It's like Nathan or something

Thus, like @WesleyDavid, I have no respect for him any more

jscott

:)

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Kitty Kitty doesn't like The Other Kitty?

Chris S

@jscott It's all client side javascript.... I'm not really a fan of reverse engineering to figure out the black box, but it shouldn't be that complicated.

IRC chokes more kittens than Markdown

I don't know why anyone would use it these days if they have any choice in the matter.

room topic changed to The Comms Room: This is *NOT a place for 'Live Support', ask on the main site. // If you type in your password it will show as stars! [markdown-ate-my-baby] [markdown-makes-ponies-cry]*

voretaq7

4:30 AM

The password is *** **** **

HopelessN00b

Eyel1k38008135!!

Hey! My password's not showing up as stars at all!

voretaq7

0

Q: Bugzilla email issue

My bugzilla system keep hit the following error: There was an error sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.example.com' to 'junxianchong@hotmail.com':Can't send data I think that is some problem with my setting and configuration. First is the urlbase I have tried setting it to bug...

bugzilla

. . . I want to just tell people like that to stop flailing around and posting fucking everything

WesleyDavid

Wow, so when you type your password no one but you can see it right? Sw0rdf!sh. You can't see that, right?

Chris S

hunter2

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid All I see is the top of Hale Berry's head coming in and out of the frame...

JOSHUA

Mark Henderson

4:34 AM

OK seriously we're pulling bash.org quotes from 2001 now?

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson bash.org is still around?

Chris S

@MarkHenderson You come up with something better!

@voretaq7 Oh yes... It's immortal you know

voretaq7

@ChrisS sometimes it has gems

Chris S

bash.org/?99060 <-- Make me laugh every time

Also, doesn't one of the SE chat rooms have the dance bot?!

Mark Henderson

@ChrisS I remember when that one first hit the main feed, I gave it a - because it's clearly faked

There's a fucking typo where there should be a system generated message

Chris S

4:40 AM

@MarkHenderson I suppose you hate all movies and TV shows that aren't documentaries, because they're all clearly faked versions of reality.

Mark Henderson

@ChrisS I would hate something claiming to be a documentary that wasn't

I fixed a stack overflow bug in my shit se says screen scraper (which was the real reason for only scraping 100 pages) - consider every single comms room star imported

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Fuck.

2

YES! DELIVER UNTO ME ALL THE STARS!

See quote in context is still broken huh? 'cuz I just got one with @WesleyDavid and a flamethrower.

Hmm

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 ITS NOT GODDAMN BROKEN ITS BY DESIGN

voretaq7

5 reloads. All from here.

I think you need to do some weighting :P

@MarkHenderson BROKEN AS DESIGNED?

Mark Henderson

fwiw cos I'm vein I checked what other people in other rooms were saying about it, and I got a few lulz at the 'context' button

WesleyDavid

4:48 AM

Journeyman Geek

open in new window/tab works for that ;p

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 If you really want it to work, middle-click on the fucking button

Journeyman Geek

;p

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid now you have two starred flamethrower pics.

@MarkHenderson . . . I ONLY HAVE ONE MOUSE BUTTON! DAMN YOU STEVE JOBS!

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 I do so loathe my magic mouse

Mark Henderson

4:49 AM

@voretaq7 Then cmd+click and "open in new tab"

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson sigh Effort!

and it would only be so I could paste them back here anyway

Mar 12 at 15:27, by Chris S

like that one.

or This One -- Rape jokes are never funny.... unless they're about RAID5

Chris S

I've come very close to getting the 64oz mug... The 100oz is just too damn big.

voretaq7

►

. . . I want a little mini Dalek that plays that sound when you hit it

WesleyDavid

Night night, pervs.

voretaq7

might be a winter project to acquire a mini dalek and wire it up.

Chris S

4:54 AM

@voretaq7 I can't imagine how long it would take to steam 3/4 gallons milk.

voretaq7

@ChrisS you just need hotter steam

Chris S

The temperature of the steam is pretty insignificant compared to the phase change energy.

voretaq7

@ChrisS You need HOTTER! STEAM!

Try using one of these to heat it:

Plasma torch

A plasma torch (or plasma arc or plasma gun) is a device for generating a directed flow of plasma. The plasma jet can be used for applications including plasma cutting, plasma spraying, and plasma arc waste disposal. Thermal plasma DC torches Thermal plasmas are generated in plasma torches by direct current (DC), alternating current (AC), radio-frequency (RF) and other discharges. DC torches are the most commonly used and researched, because when compared to AC: “there is less flicker generation and noise, a more stable operation, better control, a minimum of two electrodes, lower electro...

that should be enough to get the steam system to supercritical pressure.

Chris S

Eh, it runs on DC... When submerged in water that would cause electrolytic dissociation. An undesirably result, especially as the arc would eventually ignite the reactants.

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 JUST FOR YOU: http://яѱ.com/shitsesays/?imadouchewithamac

See, I take requests; just expect to be ridiculed for them

voretaq7

5:02 AM

@MarkHenderson YAAAAY!

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Verizon is using Afaria to manage their corporate Androids

voretaq7

that's OK, I can just make that bit of CSS invisible :P

Also I now demand something special if I access the site using lynx/links!

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Looks pricy

voretaq7

demand

Mark Henderson

I can tell cos of the diagonal stripe in the background

All products with diagonal stripes are expensive

Michael Hampton

5:03 AM

@MarkHenderson Probably is. But if you already have SAP then it's probably a good choice.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton If you've already got SAP, then you got 99 problems son, and sap is all of 'em

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Looks like they just announced something for iOS 6.

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton ...Google Maps?

Michael Hampton

@ShaneMadden One could only hope.

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-maps/id585027354

Won't download on my phone (yet?) - "no longer available"

Michael Hampton

5:08 AM

@ShaneMadden Not showing up on my gf's iPad mini either.

Mark Henderson

Can't see it in the iPhone's all store but I can get it through iTunes

And then hit "Install" under "purchased" on the iPhone

Michael Hampton

I emailed the link to my gf, and she was able to check the email on her iPad and install it through that.

Chris S

Question: On iPhone, appointment has address, where's the button for "Navigate me to this Addy"? I don't have an iDevice and one of the owners is, um, techno-challenged, so she has an iPhone

voretaq7

@ShaneMadden Fuck. Now Apple will NEVER make their maps app not suck.

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS Should have gotten an Android. It damn near reads your mind, at least with respect to Google stuff.

Shane Madden

5:16 AM

@ChrisS If it's recognized by the auto-magic address parser as an address, it shows up blue and underlined when you view the appointment -- clicking the link opens the maps app, tap the map pin to get directions there

Chris S

@MichaelHampton I have an Android... Hence me befuddlement with this issue... I have a button next to the Address for this stuff.

@ShaneMadden And the auto-magic is generally accurate?

Michael Hampton

@ChrisS yeah, I just can't see using an iPhone myself.

voretaq7

@ChrisS No. It doesn't auto-populate addresses when I say Location = [some contact that happens to be a business]

Shane Madden

@ChrisS Seems decent if the address starts with a number - the few appointments with an address as a location that I can find in my calendar it's getting right, including one with a location of "NEW LOCATION: 1234 Z St..."

But yeah, if the location on the meeting isn't a street address, no dice.

Chris S

That should be good enough... It probably just the user being "techno-challenged" (like, extremely...)

Michael Hampton

5:47 AM

0

Q: Installing Blacktrack/Pentesting OS on AWS/AZURE?

I tried good search but i am unable to get any help on this topic. Is there any official/unofficial way to install these OS on these cloud hosting. I don't know if it against there tos or not.

amazon-web-services azure google-app-engine

Really?

Chris S

I hope he uses it to launch an attack against a government or something equally stupid, it gets traced because he's a moron, and arrested. That'd make me smile.

Michael Hampton

0

Q: How to upload own OS ISO on Microsoft Azure Cloud Platform?

I want to install Custom Linux Distro on Azure which MS Don't provide. Is there any workarond?

azure

Didn't I see this somewhere before?

Chris S

OFFS >=[

Michael Hampton

It's not all bad. I just answered a question, and then realized I'd written a much better answer not too long ago, and VTC'd the new question as a duplicate.

And anyway, it's the right time of day for crap questions.

Chris S

6:04 AM

Isn't it like 5AM in Sweden??

I guess it's 7am, maybe he just got to work or something... That's still way before I wake up though.

Michael Hampton

$5 says he isn't in Sweden and his IP address turns out to be a Tor exit node or something.

And he just edited the open question with basically the same details as in the closed question.

Michael Hampton

6:20 AM

Holy shit, I'm at 165 rep for the day.

Shane Madden

@MichaelHampton He spelled "Backtrack" right, though!

Michael Hampton

This time.

Doesn't Linux still run like shit on Azure (and Hyper-V for that matter)?

Chris S

Doesn't appear to be a Tor exit... It's a small range, appears to be a company allocation

@MichaelHampton Not modern versions; MS integrated all the Hyper-V stuff and the code was accepted into the main kernel

Michael Hampton

Damn, I'm actually going to have to install Hyper-V, aren't I?

Zoredache

might be worth playing with. The features you get for free are a lot better then what you get with the free version of ESXi.

Michael Hampton

6:23 AM

Though I'm not sure I like getting the hypervisor for free and having to pay through the nose for the management tools. I can manage anything from Workstation to Enterprise Plus with my free little vSphere Client.

Zoredache

You can do basic management from a standard Windows 8 box with the hyper-v tools installed

Michael Hampton

What's missing?

Chris S

Nevermind; it's a VPN endpoint. Probably not in Sweden.

Michael Hampton

Bingo. You owe me $5 :)

Zoredache

don't waste your time trying to use the tools from Windows 7. Using the 2008 hyper-v console works somewhat, but it is half broken when you try that, and you get weird errors.

@MichaelHampton compared to what?

Chris S

6:26 AM

@MichaelHampton Well; the management console software is free... Hyper-V is free. The System Center suite is expensive-ish, though not that bad really.

Zoredache

I can create vms, start them live migrate.

Michael Hampton

@Zoredache Compared to, say, SCVMM

Zoredache

I can perform every VM task that I could perform with the free version of ESXi, and more

but I have only looking at Hyper-v for the last couple weeks, so I might be missing something

Chris S

The most expensive System Center Suite License, at the highest retail pricing, is ~$1800/CPU.

Hyper-V Server is free, but you still need to license any copies of Windows you run on it...

So Server 2012 Datacenter retail is $4800 per processor... $6600 per CPU for unlimited System Center and Windows installs.

Shane Madden

Needs Windows Enterprise for clustering too, right?

(though you'd want to do Datacenter for VM hosts anyway)

Chris S

6:35 AM

Hyper-V Server can do clustering since 2008 R2; 2012 can as well. (that's the free one)

Shane Madden

@ChrisS Ahh, gotcha.

Chris S

0

Q: error while adding web service to server in website panel

I got following error while creating website for user in website panel.I am not able to create any hosting space in server's hosting plan it is showing 0 mb space. Stack Trace: [SoapException: System.Web.Services.Protocols.SoapException: Server was unable to process request. ---> System.Uri...

windows-server-2003 website

Flag from author yesterday: Please solve my problem i am facing a lot of problems due to this

Flag from author today: Please answer my question sir i expect at least a response from the experts

2

54 mins ago, by Michael Hampton

Really?

@Iain Yes, yes... Delete my answer if you want to be fair. But that guy totally deserves it.

Michael Hampton

6:51 AM

I'll be so glad when the close votes queue is cleared out.

Iain

7:03 AM

@MichaelHampton incognito shows <200 - won't be long now

Ward

Maybe I'll pass rnxrwxrxrx before they all go away (it's been holding steady ~150 for the past couple days)

Iain

checking via incognito shows the correct total

Michael Hampton

7:19 AM

198, not bad.

Ward

The other day @voretaq7 said something about drama taking place on some SE site and many discussions in the mod-only chat room... was that to do with Physics?

Iain

There was considerable drama on physics

Ward

I saw this question on meta.SO

-9

Q: Is this moderator's suggestion a breach of the SE privacy policy?

privacy policy here I was bumbling about on physics meta and saw this thread started by a physics moderator who went on to suggest (in the thread) using moderator powers to find out the identity of certain users in order to contact their schools/colleges and "report" them for posting questions on...

discussion privacy

And followed it over to meta.physics.SE...

Ron was in touble on meta.SO a month or so ago for unrelated asshole-ishness. It's funny to read posts by his apparent followers...

Iain

7:34 AM

hey @Chopper3 How're you ?

@Ward I've seen Ron's posts on a few sites, I don't know if he's a brilliant maverick or a complete arse but he does seem to want to go against the flow which isn't great

Ward

Seems pretty clearly a complete arse...

Iain

He's banned on phys atm for something too

RobM

8:28 AM

@iain It's a relief to know we're not quite the only SE site with chatroom and meta drama. In fact they've got it worse I'd say. Even if his concerns that kicked off the event are sincere and genuine, there's constructive ways of doing things and there's what happened there...

Iain

@RobM I don't know why he had such a problem with the particular mod candidate ( I think it relates to something on skeptics ), few people appear to agree with him

Chopper3

8:51 AM

@Iain Good today thanks

Cold T

9:11 AM

morning, afternoon, evening all :)

Iain

@Chopper3 good

Dan

9:38 AM

@Chopper3 Glad to hear, dude

tombull89

9:50 AM

@Dan Don't suppose if you know if there's GPO settings to disable accessbility options? Students have worked out the keyboard shortcuts to turn on high-contrast mode and stickykeys.

Chopper3

@tombull89 Kill one of the students and write 'I won't stop killing until people stop fucking with the computers' in their back with a scalpel - you'll have to deny all knowledge of course - that might be more effective than a GPO

Dan

@tombull89 GPOI'm not sure, but there are definitely reg keys

tombull89

@Chopper3 bloody, but would get the point across quite well.

Dan

"HKCU\Control Panel\Accessibility\StickyKeys"

Name: Flags
Type: REG_SZ
Value: "506"

That'l disable sticky keys on XP at least, almost certainly the same on Win7

Journeyman Geek

eh

Friend of mine got sent a SAS hard drive instead of the equivilent sata drive...

Dan

9:58 AM

@JourneymanGeek Sweet

tombull89

@Dan Cheers, I'll look around for High Contrast

@JourneymanGeek nice.

Journeyman Geek

he has no sas gear ;p

Dan

@JourneymanGeek Oh.

tombull89

well, he does now :P

RobM

fucking useless fucking twat head fucking cloud providing cunts

When I TELL THEM several times that we're trying to upload about 4.5 to 5 Tb of data then setting the storage quota to 10Gb, and then after I complain and remind them of the 5Tb thing, to 1Tb, isn't going to cut it. Cunts.

ahem so how's everyone else's day going?

Journeyman Geek

10:11 AM

I'm seeing a bunch of adaptors for SAS to sata

those would do at a pinch right?

Dan

@JourneymanGeek It depends if his card will support SAS

Journeyman Geek

ahh

in which case he's probably screwed

;p

Dan

@JourneymanGeek Some do

Journeyman Geek

oh, there's no card

Dan

Well, his SATA controller

Journeyman Geek

10:15 AM

he wants to connect a SAS hard drive to a sata controller on a motherboard

Dan

Yeah, I'd be surprised if that worked with SAS

Journeyman Geek

considering he might be getting my old dell, its.. somewhat less than likely

Dan

He'll just have to send back the drive and get the SATA one I guess

Journeyman Geek

thanks.

tombull89

or sell the drive and get a sata one - depending on the size of the disk the SAS might be worth more than the SATA.

Journeyman Geek

10:16 AM

XD

both of which I suggested

;p

Tom O'Connor

10:32 AM

So. Damn. Cold.

Journeyman Geek

... 3 drives

some people have too much luck ;p

Dan

@JourneymanGeek So he's now got three SAS drives by accident

Journeyman Geek

supposedly

Dan

Can't just get a PCI Express SAS controller?

Journeyman Geek

ya, thats what I told him

At this point its silly not to

Dan

10:36 AM

Actually, theyr'e quite expensive

tombull89

System load average is 5.70 4.04 2.84 that's...not good?

Journeyman Geek

for something like 900 bucks worth of drives?

Dan

@JourneymanGeek What are the drives by the way? 10k+?

Journeyman Geek

apparently constellation ES2 3TB

so 7200 RPM

of course, random internet irc dude, all this might be bullcrap

Dan

Ah, not a proper proper friend

Journeyman Geek

10:39 AM

naw

kid might be getting my old dell if he picks it up tho

Dan

Gotchya

Journeyman Geek

also was asking about the heatsinks I finally got sick of keeping 'in case'

Tom O'Connor

FYI: Do not ever put /home on a CIFS mount. Ever.

Dan

@TomO'Connor Does it not go well?

Tom O'Connor

root@oxygen:/home# ls
ls: reading directory .: Permission denied

Dan

10:46 AM

Ah, haha

Tom O'Connor

d?????????   ? ?        ?           ?            ? home

 Dec 13 10:46:47 oxygen kernel: [73152.327630] CIFS VFS: Unexpected SMB signature

Dan

Jesus, I've racked up nearly 2k in expenses over the last month or so

I shit you not - a man dressed as a cheshire cat has just walked in

And I don't mean a fancy dress costume - I mean a full Disney theme park style job

tombull89

@Dan Where are you today?

Dan

@tombull89 In Macclesfield at a little company just doing some proof of concept work for them

Oooh, I hate when I dont' notice that community has bumped an old post

Dan

11:30 AM

@tombull89 Do you think you'll apply for that primary school job?

tombull89

@Dan Yeah, I'll certainly apply

Closing date isn't until the 7th Jan so I'll work on it over the christmas break.

Dan

@tombull89 Ah, cool. And yeah, you definitely should

tombull89

@Dan to be honest it's something I'd love to do, the school has the budget and the drive to do it right, so that's good for me.

Dan

@tombull89 Yeah, I wish you luck :)

One thing that's surprised me in IT is how quickly you can advance if you really want to

tombull89

@Dan It's also "getting it right" because while they might afford a C7000 and a ton of blades it's a primary school and that would probbaly be overkill.

Dan

11:36 AM

@tombull89 Maybe, but check this

That's for a nice little PRU (My photos suck, sorry)

So not as a big as a secondary, or a even a primary network, but the same building blocks and Enteprise kit which is great to see

It even has redundant cores (@RobM ;) )

RobM

@dan :p

Dan

@RobM Sorry, couldn't resist

RobM

hehe :)

Dan

0

Q: How do I add items to 'Favorites' via GPO?

How do I add items to all users 'Favorites', preferably via GPO? the screenshot is just an example from W7 but I'm actually working with 2008R2 Server and RDS

windows-server-2008-r2 group-policy

Ignoring my total fail of an answer, I'd be interested to know this

tombull89

heh - what's running n them, VM-wise?

Dan

11:42 AM

(We just disable the Favorites thing altogether)

tombull89

Oh I see the bottom ones are blades, horizontall mounted.

Dan

@tombull89 Yeah, it's the C7000's baby brother

They had 2 or 3 ESXi boxes, but they also had a physical XenServer box and two servers running a little VDI solution

@tombull89 h18004.www1.hp.com/products/blades/components/enclosures/…

syneticon-dj

Hi folks. I've flagged a question for migration to SO before seeing that it has been asked there already so it should just be closed as off-topic here. As I do not want to take the risk of having my part in a dirty migration, could someone cast two off-topic non-migration votes SVP?

0

Q: Notify Client-Server Runtime (CSR) about new process

How can I implement fork API in Windows? Fork + exec calls call be replaced with the win32 API CreateProcess. In Linux system the child process starts execution from the very same line where which the fork API is called. How the same concept is implemented in Windows. I tried to port the fork A...

windows windows-server-2008 windows-7 kernel

Chopper3

I had so much energy this morning I just did an hour or so of work - first time since late September - yay me!

Tom O'Connor

How to tell if you're about to buy a consumer router: "If the ports are yellow, the performance is like jello"

@Chopper3 :D

syneticon-dj

11:47 AM

@Chopper3 "Life's so much better on holiday, so we only work when we need the money."

Tom O'Connor

@syneticon-dj Yes, Jacqueline?

Dan

@Chopper3 I know people who aren't ill who haven't managed that, so well done!

syneticon-dj

@TomO'Connor call me Franz

Dan

12:01 PM

0

A: Active Directory domain membership for a colocated server and its hosted VMs

Should I deploy the AD DS on the Host or on a VM? I would really like the Host to ONLY serve the Hyper-V role for isolation and managability purposes. Without a doubt, your host should not be running AD DS. Definitely create a virtual Domain Controller. Should I join the Host OS to the d...