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12:00 AM
@Goatmale certainly interesting, but I wonder why they haven't closed that question.
 
Hey Jeff. You're fscked. I work with your doppelganger
 
Cool as shit here. And super secret squirrel stuff too.
One word: kegerator
 
Don't make me dig out my cookies & white russians photo
That's pretty sweet, though.
Glad it's going well for you :)
 
Having lots of fun getting my hands dirty.
 
@Adrian Hey, where did you end up? *mazon?
Or the other place?
 
Shit a brick: meraki.com
Why doesn't all tech look that good
That was one of the main reasons we went Sonicwall a few years ago for a client. cos they were so shiny!
 
@MarkHenderson suddenly, Dell!
And I've looked at Meraki for small wiFi deployments in a desperate play to rid myself of that vast, unfettered evil known as DD-WRT
 
Geezus how much does this stuff cost? I bet it's expensive
 
@WesleyDavid The only big downside with Meraki is the continuing SAAS licence cost
@MarkHenderson The APs are quite cheap.
 
12:19 AM
@TomO'Connor I'm a fan of SaaS licensing these days. Beats the owned-outright + maintenance fees things.
 
there's a per-AP license though
@WesleyDavid Oh, you buy the hardware
but the management is all Out Of Band, and in the cloud
but it is FECKING shiny.
I'm trying to become a Meraki partner.
 
I'm not entirely sure I want a third party managing all my infrastructure via "the cloud". What happens when the sun comes out?
 
@TomO'Connor Oh yeah? I wish I did enough wireless to make becoming a partner sensible.
I wish I did enough business in general to make becoming a partner in anything workable. =|
 
I wish i had a partner.
I get lonely at night.
 
:(
 
12:21 AM
s/partner/sock/g
 
@TomO'Connor Yeah, pillows only offer so much partnership.
 
@MichaelHampton Yeah, one would hope that you could redirect the switch to your own hosted version of their management software
 
@MarkHenderson Lulz. no.
 
@TomO'Connor ... or fallback to traditional management methods
 
@MarkHenderson One would hope, but I didn't see anything that indicated you could do that.
 
12:24 AM
@MarkHenderson If the cloud goes away, the device remains in it's last known state.
but you have to re-associate it to be able to change it.
 
$1999 for a 24-port gigabit model. I have no idea if thats a good price or not...
 
@MarkHenderson Not really.
 
@TomO'Connor Sounds dangerous
 
I wouldn't use their switches.
I'd just use a plain old Cisco 2960S
@MarkHenderson I'm waiting for them to send me an AP to play with
 
@MichaelHampton Shouldn't be too hard, you'd just need to go into your network gear and... oh, right.
 
12:26 AM
Also, if you thought ServerFault markdown was bad... Reddit is even more fucked up.
 
So... if you fuck up the config on the switch and kick yourself off internet access, how do you reconfig it to put it back?
Do you have to go find somewhere else that does have internet access and do it from there?
 
@MarkHenderson static ARP, i think.
 
And what if the internet is down, but you want to reconfig the switch anyway
Sounds pretty dangerous. But fuck they look good
 
@MarkHenderson The internet can't be down.
 
CISCO. HP. DELL. NETGEAR. LEARN FROM THIS.
 
12:27 AM
Ever.
 
@TomO'Connor Maybe not at where you work but they're marketing this shit at SMBs. Internet goes down all the time there :p
 
TIL that Cisco console cables and HP Procurve cables are identical.
 
I was super pleased when they fixed our fucking ADSL circuit here, the internet only drops out once a week now
 
not again.
 
Alright, screw this... heading home. One of you guys fix my WAPs out in Cali by the time I get home, huh?
 
12:30 AM
@HopelessN00b Sure chuck us an IP/User/Pass
 
Friend of mine tweeted: "Are the drinking during pregnancy warning signs really necessary in a gay bar?"
#ThingsThaMakeYouGoHMMMMMM
 
@WesleyDavid Yes, yes they are.
 
The ladies in the suburbs here like the in-city gay bars. They're not going to get hit on there
 
12:45 AM
Goddamnit Cisco
You fucking ruin everything
 
@MarkHenderson Don't worry, Cisco will keep it just the way it is, if history is any guide.
After all, they never really improved the Linksys products at all...nor really made them much worse.
 
@MichaelHampton With any luck maybe Cisco devices will become brushed aluminium
 
@MarkHenderson Never heard of Meraki, but then again, I hadn't heard of Flip Video until about six months before Cisco bought them.
 
I'd heard of Meraki, but only once before. Never actually seen one in person.
 
@MichaelHampton I'm playing with their management portla for mobile devices at the moment
Because I am always always always having client ask me "Can you manage our fleet of 100 iPads" and the answer is "no I wish I could"
This portal though, shit, it's free. I would pay a billion dollars a month for it...
 
12:55 AM
@MarkHenderson I know one of the principle SysAdmins at the main power company for the state of AZ, and they have to manage a shit ton of mobile devices including iPads.
Thousands if I recall.
He has favorable things to say about Good.
@sunflower! You've come back to us!
Wait, or was it Mobile Iron.
Dangit. Now I can't remember.
 
@WesleyDavid I've herad of Mobile Iron but they were expennnsive
 
I went to the Phoenix UC User Group and the dude talked about how he searched for and vetted a ton of different mobile management suites, and he'd used most of them, including some internal tools that Verizon uses and apparently only gives out to special customers or something.

anyway, I now can't remember what the winner was. Good or Mobile Iron.
I wish I knew what your story was @sunflower. But you can't talk to us. You have no mouth, and you must scream.
 
@WesleyDavid A ghost in the machine.. Wait, did I just see a santa sleigh?! Was switching tabs back to chat and barely caught something fading away.
Also, how is "hide posts" different from "Ignore this user"?
 
I can find out what Verizon's using in about three hours.
 
1:12 AM
@jscott LSD is a hell of a drug.
 
Careful, if you take too much LSD you might start using UNIX.
 
@MichaelHampton If you take too mush LSD, you become UNIX.
 
@NickM. Goddamnit I can't get the bounciness out of my head from your damn animated GIF
I still have another 4 hours of work to go and I swear I'm not going to get anything done
 
1:29 AM
@MarkHenderson Never seen that one before, eh?
 
@WesleyDavid I might have seen it in the past, I don't recall. All I know now is its burned on my retinas
Which is obviously a clear sign that it's been too long since I've (been allowed to) exercise my marital privilege
 
what gif?
 
@JourneymanGeek CLick the arrow on my last message to NickM
 
ahh thanks
that IS bouncy
 
Bouncy bouncy bouncy
 
1:33 AM
I wish steam would hurry up and install
 
@JourneymanGeek What game are you waiting for?
 
oh, steam itself
 
Ahh
Steam is usually pretty fast to install
Except on OSX
 
ya, which is wierd
 
Steam on OSX is a bit of a dog
 
1:34 AM
windows 8 in this case
 
Congratulations guys, still keeping it classy I see. Just ran an update on the most popular swearwords on Shit SE Says:
fuck		165
fucking		115
shit		114
 
Can you fix the 'see link in context'?
 
@Zoredache It's not broken
That was quite deliberate
 
@Zoredache He did that just to piss off people who have JavaScript disabled.
 
Eh?
 
1:40 AM
The "see quote in context" button.
 
Well, can you make things that were originally hyper-links clickable?
 
@MarkHenderson Alright, what the fucking fuck, you guys? My shit's still broken and none of you fucking fucks fixed that shit for me. Not fucking nice, you fucks.
 
@MichaelHampton it just says 'nope' I don't see how that is supposed to annoy you based on javascript.
 
hm, doing it in safemode works yay
 
I mean, shit!
 
1:41 AM
@Zoredache Hm, maybe you're having a different issue.
 
replaces @HopelessN00b with a fucking shitty fuck shell fucking script.
 
@HopelessN00b I asked for a user/pass, never got one
 
@MarkHenderson Oh, my bad. 192.168.100.23 admin/Cisco
 
Evenin gents. Life isn't so bad when one can place one's ass in the finest of office furniture.
 
Actually, forget fixing it... if you could just make these HP APs burst into flames or explode, I think I'd prefer that.
 
1:44 AM
@Zoredache Second this. Tested in Firefox, Chrome and IE.
 
Ok
I made the fucking context link work
But only if you disable javascript
 
Dammit. They are associating... except... I fucking hate computers.
 
@MarkHenderson You have well and truly gone DevOps.
 
And @MichaelHampton I made bits of it work without JS. Mainly the "gimmie another" and context links
 
What the hell kind of AP has this listed as an associated station?
18:3D:A2:1F:73:08 169.254.156.253 214 mzmwwifi Yes 1:45:43 -84 -114 30 Disassociate
 
1:47 AM
@MarkHenderson Hm, I see the URL for quote in context now, but nothing happens when I click on it.
 
169.254.156.253, really?!?!? freaking HP.
 
@MichaelHampton Did you disable javascript?
 
@MarkHenderson But of course.
 
@MichaelHampton right click and open in a new tab.
 
@MichaelHampton Well I dunno, it worked for me
 
1:48 AM
@MichaelHampton Keep waiting, it takes a while for the link to travel all the way to Australia and back.
 
@MarkHenderson onclick="alert('NOPE!'); return false;" ?
 
@jscott Sever is in the US
 
FUCKING MARKDOWN
 
@MichaelHampton Hence why disabling JS will make the link work
 
Oh wait, we're supposed to be more creative. SHITTY MARKDOWN
@MarkHenderson Strange, because it sure as hell still isn't.
 
1:49 AM
shrug
Is the page berating you for having javascript disabled?
 
@MarkHenderson Nope.
 
@MichaelHampton Then your JS isn't disabled
 
I dunno, works on my machine
Maybe your browser is doing something weird with how it disables javascript
 
1:52 AM
@MarkHenderson Fine, I'll blame it on the sysadmin.
 
By not obeying <noscript> tags
 
Aha, I see my browser was smart enough to disagree with the developer, and not call me a tool for disabling JavaScript. Nice feature.
 
You really hate developers, don't you?
 
Only when they don't fix my bugs.
 
Status: Closed; Reason: No-Repo
 
1:59 AM
@MarkHenderson @MichaelHampton It's fine. Someone loves them.
 
fwiw I don't generally develop much these days, I spend most of my time telling other people what to do
 
@MarkHenderson Livin' the dream man
 
@JoelESalas Pft
I still don't have a nice car
 
@MarkHenderson What do you wish you drove?
 
@JoelESalas Maserati would be nice
Nah "wish" is a strong word, but cars are one of the only things I care enough about to use as a goal
 
2:07 AM
Second that
 
If I had the choice between a maserati and being mortgage free, I'd chose mortgage free, even though nobody else would ever know
 
@MarkHenderson then you can buy your Maserati
:-)
 
@voretaq7 For the price of my mortgage I could have 2 maserati's. Maybe even 3.
 
(What? that's the logic I used! "Car is paid off. Plane Payment == Car Payment. Therefore I can buy a plane!)
 
@voretaq7 I like!
I've been seriously thinking about getting a bike
But every single person I know who rides a bike regularly has been involved in a horrific accident
 
2:12 AM
@MarkHenderson Jesus man, are Maseratis cheap by you, or do you have a soul-crusher mortgage?
For my mortgage I could have about half a Maserati :-)
 
@voretaq7 A decent maserati is about $200k?
So thus I have a soul crushing mortgage
 
@MarkHenderson By "bike" do you mean bicycle, or motorcycle?
 
A base GT Sport is like $140 here
 
@MichaelHampton Motorcycle. Way too unfit for a pushbike, although I'm considering that too
@voretaq7 I could have almost 3 of them
 
@MarkHenderson soul status: CRUSHED.
granted my mortgage on a studio co-op is high-60k
 
2:15 AM
I've only had that particular mortgage for about 2 months, before then you could replace the first digit with a 2
 
I like my number better.
 
Geezus
 
I should consider refinancing (my interest rate is 6.75%) but the interest savings on the payment would be less than the refinancing cost.
 
5.89% for me, and that's about 0.5% lower than everyone else I know
I pay fortnightly, and I pay way more than the minimum, which makes a huge difference
 
@MarkHenderson yeah mine is lower than anyone else I know with a co-op who bought around when I did
 
2:19 AM
@voretaq7 What's a co-op?
 
I could probably get 5% if I re-finance
 
@MarkHenderson Are homes more expensive down under because they have to be dingo-proofed to protect your babies?
 
@MarkHenderson A uniquely New York real estate creature
A housing cooperative is a legal entity, usually a corporation, renting owns real estate, consisting of one or more residential buildings; it is one type of housing tenure. Housing cooperatives are a distinctive form of home ownership that has many characteristics that make it different than other residential arrangements such as single family ownership, condominiums and renting. The corporation is membership based, with membership granted by way of a share purchase in the cooperative. Each shareholder in the legal entity is granted the right to occupy one housing unit. A primary advant...
 
@HopelessN00b No, they're expensive here because there's a buttload of people and no real estate. Simple supply and demand. Oh, and Sydney is more expensive than NY to live in.
 
@voretaq7 Not quite uniquely New York. Other metropolitan areas have them too.
 
2:20 AM
@voretaq7 Interesting. Actually doesn't sound like too bad of an idea
 
basically you buy stock in a company that runs the building, you pay "maintenance" instead of rent (mine works out to ~550/month), and get a mortgage.
@HopelessN00b well in the US they really took off in NYC
and then spread
@MarkHenderson it's not if the co-op is well-run
 
So after the mortgage is paid out, you just pay maintenance?
 
putting it all in perspective, my maintenance bill is going up 2.5% this year, most renters are seeing 5-7% increases
@MarkHenderson yup
 
@voretaq7 Nice
And the owners corporation still exists?
 
@MarkHenderson and there are some fringe tax benefits (the co-op corporation has an underlying mortgage on the building: I can deduct the interest on that mortgage AND my mortgage on my taxes)
 
2:22 AM
Really sounds quite clever
Just have to hope everyone pulls their weight
(but when it comes to body corporate/owners corp payments thats always the case)
 
@MarkHenderson each co-op forms its own stock company that owns the building/land - most have existed for a long time (this building went co-op in the late 80s)
 
@MarkHenderson - unfortunately... the odds of a crash on a bike are pretty bad
 
That setup sounds similar to torrens title
 
doesn't stop me :)
 
@SpacemanSpiff Yah. From work to home is only a 10 minute drive, so that closes the window a bit :p
 
2:23 AM
@MarkHenderson well the relationship with the shareholders/residents is essentially a landlord-tenant relationship: If they don't pay their maintenance you sue their asses for back rent, evict them, and sell the unit on the open market :-)
 
Torrens title is a system of land title where a register of land holdings maintained by the state guarantees an indefeasible title to those included in the register. Land ownership is transferred through registration of title instead of using deeds. Its main purpose is to simplify land transactions and to certify to the ownership of an absolute title to realty. It has become pervasive around the countries strongly influenced by Britain, especially those in the Commonwealth of Nations and has spread to most countries. Background Common law At common law, land owners needed to prove...
^ Thats basically what's used exclusively in AU
 
@SpacemanSpiff There's two kinds of riders, those that have been down and those that will go down.
 
i've been both :)
 
@SpacemanSpiff A couple times. :)
 
@MarkHenderson kinda similar - rather than title it's a 100-year lease, but your right to hold the lease is granted by the fact that you're a registered shareholder in the corporation
 
2:25 AM
@jscott I'm guessing it's more of a cycle? Those that have been down and those that will go down again.
 
@MarkHenderson Could be? Join us and you can put that theory to the test. :)
 
A lot of factors, mistakes are magnified, as is inattention
then the things you can't account for, namely other people and road conditions
 
@SpacemanSpiff that's what I say about flying - but I never have to pick bugs out of my teeth :P
 
It's more "Don't sweat it, you're going to crash some day. Be safe, be attentive, but enjoy the ride".
 
@jscott "enjoy the rider"? Wouldn't that be a dangerous distraction? I'm just sayin'
 
2:28 AM
@voretaq7 Full-face helmets! I just don't get the mini brain-buckets some people wear. Do you want to save only the top of your head?
 
@jscott hush. Let them die.
 
I prefer to be enclosed in a vehicle when traveling over 10mph
 
@voretaq7 No bicycles either then?
 
and really, what's the point of a vehicle if traveling less than 10mph?
@jscott nope. Skateboards though.
I may have been over 10mph on my skateboard on occasion
and that may or may not have been with the assistance of an MTA bus.
 
2:29 AM
@voretaq7 Oh gosh, don't remind me about those. At a point in my life, I wasted far too much time with that.
 
@jscott skateboards are transportation. Tricks are for suicidal kids.
 
@voretaq7 Please tell me you were a teenager when you rode a skateboard?
 
@MarkHenderson I still ride them occasionally
they're very efficient city transportation
 
@voretaq7 Are you sure you're not a pedophile?
 
2:31 AM
@MarkHenderson quite certain
 
I was 15 the last time I rode a skateboard.
 
@MichaelHampton Case in point
 
Just run towards a 10-12 step flight of stairs, as fast as you possibly can, then throw your self down them whilst twiddling your feet just so.
 
And I've done over 35mph on a bicycle on flat ground. Which confuses the drivers when I'm passing them...
 
@voretaq7 Better than Jeff's penchant for the Razor scooter, that's for sure. As long as you can ollie up a curb or over any small obstacles.
 
2:33 AM
@jscott I generally avoid curbs, and with city wheels you can roll over most small obstacles you're likely to encounter
 
@HopelessN00b Fucking lol'd at this
 
Alright, I take back everything bad I've said about Cisco gear. It can be so much worse, it could be HP.
 
Wow, I think this is the first time I've been tempted to upvote a question that I also voted to close.
 
@MichaelHampton Link!
 
-1
Q: How to encrypt disk transparently without destroying data

aseqOn a Linux system, be it Debian, Redhat or any distro, I would like to encrypt the disk on the fly. That is, encrypt the disk transparently to the OS whilst it is running, reboots, shuts down etc. In addition it should not destroy data. I know there is (commercial) software for windows that does...

 
2:39 AM
@HopelessN00b - the ASA makes me want to stab myself in the eyes
What HP gear are you working with?
 
@SpacemanSpiff Working As Designed!
 
@SpacemanSpiff APs. But their switches drive me crazy too.
 
@MichaelHampton Do you know how BitLocker accomplishes it? FDE really requires downtime doesn't it?
 
@voretaq7 I have no idea of the details of how they do it. But I've used it and it certainly works. Just one reboot required.
 
@MichaelHampton well it's just one reboot for FreeBSD (geom crypto), I assume Linux has something similar.
It's a LONG-ASS reboot though
 
2:42 AM
@MarkHenderson sigh Marriage.
 
@MichaelHampton Same with truecrypt on windows - not sure what truecrypt on *nix looks like though.
 
BitLocker lets you use the system while it's encrypting the disk. I have no idea how they make that safe.
 
@voretaq7 The initial encryption process runs while the OS is up, users may operate the computer during this process, but it really gobbles disk space [until completed] , there's, some options for minimum free space during, but we just let 'er rip.
 
I guess I could see that. It requires some visibility into the filesystem structure, which is something you don't have with LUKS.
 
@MichaelHampton or geom - because the encryption is at the disk-block level
 
2:46 AM
@WesleyDavid You should be so lucky :p
 
Well, it's usually accomplished with a layer between the block device and attempts to access it, right? The code sitting there can do all the shuffling it needs to on the physical device while still allowing r/w to any block.
 
Right. I can think of a way or two to script it up, but since nobody's paying me to do it, fuck it.
 
Yeah.. fancy abstraction layers. I'll leave that to the SO crowd.
 
@MarkHenderson Hush, plebe.
 
@ShaneMadden yes, but doing it online requires mapping which blocks have been encrypted (and if there are writes to the FS that can get to be a snarled nasty mess)
 
2:51 AM
And what happens if you yank power while the disk is being encrypted online?
 
@voretaq7 Yeah. It's hideous, but doable.
 
@MichaelHampton I don't know, I only yank the power out when I'm updating the BIOS.
 
@MichaelHampton Truecrypt handles it just fine. Probably keeps a journal of the in-progress blocks in case of power pull.
 
Hm, I better dust off my K&R book, then.
 
@sunflower You've come back to us!
 
2:53 AM
 
@WesleyDavid For someone who wants his account deleted, he sure uses it a lot.
 
@jscott Win8 does away with the 2 part encryption process. It also allows you to choose to encrypt the whole disk or just the parts with data (with reasonably good advice on which you should pick)
 
If FileVault can do it, it's got to be possible, right? Just might not be any FOSS that does it.
 
@HopelessN00b I think they have an SE addiction issue.
@ChrisS Good know, thanks. We enable BitLocker and run the initial encryption just post imaging, so the only "testing" of encrypt-while-active-user-is-farting-around has been just us playing with it.
 
@MarkHenderson Hmmm...
 
3:01 AM
@WesleyDavid Why?
 
@WesleyDavid Seriously?
 
@MarkHenderson cackles
 
@jscott Yeah, we encrypt before giving to the end user too; so they never have to mess with it.
 
Only fifteen available and they all look like they're running from the law.
 
My guess here is that the guy is planning a switch to encrypted systems.
 
3:02 AM
@WesleyDavid Or will be running from the law.
Stay away bro.
 
I've just started playing with MBAM from MDOP; seems like a good first try from MS. (MBAM = Ms Bitlocker Admin and Monitoring)
 
My wife's cousin just got engaged to someone that we suspect is a mail order bride
But she's a super nice girl so I don't particularly care
 
@jscott One of the less fun addictions to have. I recommend trying heroin or cocaine before SE, as far as addictions go.
 
@MarkHenderson "Suspect" - Is she from Ukraine and not speak any English?
 
@MarkHenderson I know someone who knows someone, etc, who got a Mailorder Bride (forget from where, not Russia). Apparently she's very nice and they're as happy as a normal couple could be... I still find it a bit weird, but if they're happy how can I say boo?
 
3:08 AM
OK, so stupid question, but... say I have an AP, which has a VLAN defined on it, say 214. If the switch it's attached to only has VLAN 213 defined, this would be why I can get any fucking traffic to the wireless clients, right?
 
@HopelessN00b Yup.
 
@HopelessN00b bingo
 
Depends on the switch, but most won't pass traffic for a vlan they don't know.
 
I'm gonna have to go kill our old network admin.
But one abomination at a time. Tonight, I get wireless clients onto our network.
 
@HopelessN00b Yeah, if the AP is configured to communicate on a trunk and the traffic is tagged with a different VID than the other end of the link accepts, then you might as well not have it plugged in at all. =]
 
3:09 AM
@HopelessN00b Only off by 1, maybe they started from zero-indexed count.
 
@WesleyDavid Hungary, but her english is fine
 
Sleighs everywhere! yay.
 
That sleigh animation looks particularly festive with all the Santa Hat gravatars.
 
@jscott Nah, we're not that fancy. 213/VLAN ID = 3rd octet of the subnet's IP.
 
Did chat do that last year as well? I don't remember.
 
3:11 AM
@HopelessN00b I use the same; keeps me sane.
 
@ChrisS Yeah, I bet you occasionally get it right, though. No such luck over here.
And I really hope you have something resembling a network map. I'm using arp tables to figure out what's plugged into what, and it's giving me one hell of a headache.
 
@HopelessN00b I had to do that at my last job. What a pain in the ass.
 
Yep, got a Visio that I keep updated...
 
@HopelessN00b Check out Nedi or NetDisco.
 
@MarkHenderson How can you be Hungary next to Turkey and Greece?
I'm here all night!
 
3:19 AM
lanmap with nmap -sn -traceroute 192.168.0.0./16 (substitute your IP range) will generate a graphical map of all the devices on the network (those that respond to ping at least; you could get more aggressive in your scan if necessary)
 
@jscott We got a CCNP coming on on Monday. I can't freaking wait. File all that under "his nightmare now," come the 17th. Counting the minutes, believe me
 
I hate when the news says an event "Could have been worse" or "Could have been better". Like, really?! You mean there isn't some predetermined path that all events take??
 
@ChrisS I really like weather reports "50% chance of rain" -- No kidding? So it could either rain, or not, flip a coin, you decide.
 
Oh, crap... this VLAN's going to need to be defined on all the switches, innit?
 
Well with the number of times I've been rained on when it's a 10% chance, you'd think I would have won the lotto by now... I think meteorologists must have all flunked math, or statistics, or both
 
3:28 AM
@HopelessN00b Well, the switches that have APs connected at least.
 
@HopelessN00b Not necessarily; some switches happily pass all vlan traffic unless told otherwise. Not any of big names, as far as I'm aware.
Someone my mom works with dropped off a laptop they thought was dead for me to assess. I need a copy of that "install all the things" comic so I can accurately express how dumb people look when I get their computer and it's got 439 "programs" installed on it.
 
@ChrisS I'm thinking that to get traffic from here to there, it might be helpful if the switches here know where VLAN 214 actually is.
 
Well, yeah, that helps
 
Ugh, at least I'm remembering why I don't want to be a network admin.
 
I rather like network administration - so long as I have control to make changes as I see fit.
I tend to find networks and go "W- T- F- were they thinking?" more than "Yeah, that seems reasonable"
 
3:35 AM
@ChrisS Yup, definitely the case here. Every piece of the network's a new one of those, in fact.
 
I just untangled an interesting one the other day. We've got a Cisco 2821 for our Phone system (still scratching my head that they also bought an ASA for the firewall; the 2821 does absolutely nothing but CME). The CUE module in it and the phones all have a 10.10.10.x addressing. Our internal network is 192.168.x.x.
Well the 2821 had a 192.168.x.x address and the CUE was set to use the 2821 for it's default gateway. The 192.168 network uses the ASA for routing, so it was creating circular routing and pissing off the stateful rules on the ASA.
 
@ChrisS I liked the quote I read from someone in here, whos friend who is a HR recruiter that might get 200 applicants, takes 100 of them and just throws them away saying "We don't need people who aren't lucky"
 
@MarkHenderson Sounds about right.
 
@MarkHenderson C-level thinking right there.
 
Apr 13 at 13:00, by pfo
so i have this friend that works in the HR of a larger company. he told me what he does when he gets like 200 resumes he basically just throws away 100 of them to the gutter and tells himself: "we don't need people that aren't lucky".
 

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