The Comms Room

Bart Silverstrim

3:00 PM

I stay away from meta because it's scary.

Rob Moir

I know I stood as a mod last time but today's crap isn't exactly a good advert to stand again

pauska

Mod requirement: Chrome

MarkM

I fully expect Chop to have his diamond back, TomO's suspension wiped from the database logs, and everyone saying Shit and Fuck and posting boobs when I get back.

OCCUPY THE COMMS ROOM

Bart De Vos

@pauska I'm in open landscape... :)

Shads0

@pauska Requirement is actually OS/2

tombull89

3:00 PM

I still think TomTom would be a good (read: interesting) mod.

Bart De Vos

@MarkM #OccupyComs

BTW, is it just me or are there a lot of users in chat today? :)

Shads0

@pauska My screen get's mirrored to every user!

syneticon-dj

controversy seems to be attractive

Shads0

shrug I'm here everyday I can, posting X ALL THE Y

Kyle Brandt

@pauska: Let me talk to the community team first. They know a lot more about this side of things for our engine in general. I will stay in the loop to keep an eye on any special SA aspects. In general they operate on Meta so it should all be transparent

pauska

3:03 PM

@KyleBrandt ok

Bart Silverstrim

If we can't have Chopper, I WANT TOMTOM AS MODERATOR.

:-/

He'll make things far more interesting.

Who got banned from SF chat?

Dan

One day I'll remember that ESXi doesn't connect the CDROM by default

Bart De Vos

@BartSilverstrim @TomOConnor

Bart Silverstrim

O_O

For WHAT?

Wait...starwall says because he's jewish?

tombull89

I though it's a 30 minute ban? That should be up now...

Bart Silverstrim

3:06 PM

WTF did you guys do while I was gone?

pfo

WTH?!

tombull89

When I got chatbanned it was 30 mins...

Bart De Vos

@tombull89 It is

Bart Silverstrim

Tom got banned, Chopper's leaving...WTH is going on?

Dan

@MarkM I'm upvoting your meta comment because you mentioned me and it made me feel all gooey inside

Shads0

3:06 PM

@BartSilverstrim See, a giant argument broke out about the chat link

pauska

@tombull89 He's back already, scroll up

Bart Silverstrim

@shads0: the blog thing? I hate that.

Shads0

@BartSilverstrim I'm also a master deception

Anyone have ties at Newegg to get me say...30% off? XD

Scott Pack

Hm. Seatools makes it to LBA 99, and said it had 99 read errors. I have a sneaky suspicion this drive may be on it's way out....

Bart De Vos

@BartSilverstrim Someone started pushing @Chopper3, he didn't like it. (Can't blame him). The the m.SF post came and thing got worse and worse from there on.

jscott

3:09 PM

Since we're on the topic....

I really want to like Zenoss [Core if it matters], but I'll be darned if I can perform the same configuration on a device more than once.

MikeyB

Can we get a close reason of "The answer is in the question"?

0

Q: how solve ERROR: No reverse DNS (PTR) entries. The error MX records are:

i have remote access to my windows server 2008 r2(DNS-IIS-FTP-MAIL), please see the link below for my web site : http://www.intodns.com/polyafzar.com how can i fix the error below in my server : ERROR: No reverse DNS (PTR) entries. The problem MX records are: 234.60.7.31.in-addr.arpa -...

jscott

And this "heartbeat failure" business.... hoo boy! What fun.

Scott Pack

On the plus side, it's out of warranty. Looks like I get to schedule a trip to the bench press.

Bart Silverstrim

...wow. Don't know if my opinions worth anything or not...probably not without offending someone or other. (reading the inactive mode meta question...)

A comment about being in chat instead of modding? I would see something "off", come here and drop a comment, two minutes later Chopper would have closed it out or weighed in...

jscott

Luckily, this is the bitrock/stack installer, so i can just nuke the install dir and start fresh...

Which I might add, isn't as much fun as you would think.

Rob Moir

3:15 PM

@BartSilverstrim As I've said before, I'm sure that everyone who has complained / flagged / whatever has done so with the best of intentions but we've ended up worse off because of the outcomes, imo.

Bart Silverstrim

I hear about CHAOS team/community leaders, but if it weren't for the primary site listing those positions and the podcast mentioning them, I'd not know about any community management people at SX, to be honest. But I also primarily hang in SF and the SF chat...

The last podcast was the first time I found an answer to some of what their jobs entail (although it sounds like it focuses on developing A51 sites a lot of the time.)

Tom O'Connor

@BartSilverstrim I made a very flippant comment in the style of a spurned politician / kids tv presenter Which I now realise was wrong. Except it wasn't.

Bart Silverstrim

Welcome back Tom...dunno how you got banhammered, but dude...WTH?

tombull89

@TomOConnor Look on the bright side, at least you can say you've offended someone enough to be suspended from chat. You've joined me in the "I got suspended from SF.Chat" club.

Bart Silverstrim

@pauska put a target on his ass for all the mods to go after him...hee hee...

Shads0

3:20 PM

@tombull89 flagged

tombull89

@Shads0 flagged in revenge

Bart De Vos

Banning in 3...2...1...

Tom O'Connor

Amusingly, I got flagged, then I got notification about it to look at them. Then I was told i couldn't mark flags against me as invalid

tombull89

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Bart De Vos

@tombull89 Do you have a shortcut key for that stuff?

You get it out faster then i can type it in my browser

Shads0

3:22 PM

....

Tom O'Connor

Which is of course, totally wrong and I'll remove it in a second.

Please stop starring it.

Tim Post

Bart De Vos

@TimPost It worked, Jeeej :D

Shads0

2

Dan

Serious question, should I be editing the Spelling and Grammar in this answer: serverfault.com/questions/341244/…

Shads0

3:26 PM

!!! SNIFF I just realized that @MarkM didn't mention me in his meta answer....I'M SO IGNORED

Dan

I don't want to rub anyone up the wrong way

Bart De Vos

@Dan Yes, verry much so :D

Shads0

@Dan I never have qualms about editing for grammar/spelling

MikeyB

@Dan Yes, and if you can only do a 'suggested edit', make sure it's significant enough to inflict on another person for review. :)

Tom O'Connor

youtube.com/watch?v=FafVtHWn4X8 - This is the "Which I now realise was very wrong" sketch.

MikeyB

3:28 PM

rio-grande:/var/lib/named/etc # rlog /etc/named.conf.zones-internal |grep date
date: 2010/01/14 20:55:23;  author: root;  state: Exp;

^ Ohh... that's not good. Time to do a restore…

Dan

@MikeyB Yeah, I'm stuck on suggested for a bit. I need to work on my rep!

Shads0

wanna see depressing? movies.SE is like a ghost town.

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Movies – movies.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for film aficionados

Currently in public beta.

179 visits/day =(

Tom O'Connor

@Shads0 I'm looking forward to fuckmyass.se

2

190

Human Sexual Response and Non-Platonic Relations

Proposed Q&A site for a site for medical professionals, sex educators, counselors, and others to discuss both the physical and emotional aspects of sexual and/or romantic interactions.

Currently in commitment.

tombull89

Currently in commitment. har-de-har.

Tim Post

@TomOConnor I think you mean Stack Overflow

Shads0

3:31 PM

Aye, it jumped up about 20% in the commitment since that one guy complained about it and got a -48

Tom O'Connor

@tombull89 Should be on areola51

Tim Post

I'm interested in seeing how the private beta goes on that one. It's either going to be a historical disaster, or go amazingly well.

Shads0

@TimPost I agree with someone that posted it, I'd HATE to be a mod there

Bart Silverstrim

privates beta.

Shads0

41

A: NSFW proposal on Area51

As the proposed site is likely to be of more interest to adults, and there are even some adults who may not want to come across this site accidentally, the proposed site will have two unique features: A "warning" page requiring you to confirm that you are over 18 before you enter the site (this...

Tim Post

3:33 PM

My God .. It's full of puns!

I don't think moderation should be an issue beyond the private beta. If it is, then the private beta didn't do what it should have done.

Bart Silverstrim

Oh dear...I WILL BOYCOTT SX IF THEY HAVE A NSFW SITE!

RAWR!

...heh...SeX

Shads0

I just noticed there's 8 non SF mods in here o.x

MikeyB

Hahahahaha!

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3303/…

Bart Silverstrim

It takes 8 to fill Chopper's community participation :-(

COME BACK CHOPPER!

MikeyB

@BartSilverstrim We can finally have a .xxx domain :p

overflow.xxx

Shads0

3:35 PM

@BartSilverstrim You missed all the flaming that guy did, I only caught some of it cause it got deleted fast. One including saying the US is full of pregnant 13 yr olds

Bart Silverstrim

O_O I didn't do them.

The complainer was from Europe...don't they run around topless on the beaches all the time there?

Dan

@BartSilverstrim Sadly not

(Enough)

Bart De Vos

@BartSilverstrim (European here): Depends on where you are, they do sometimes :)

tombull89

@BartSilverstrim Not in my part of Europe, unfortunately.

Shads0

@BartSilverstrim I reference Euro-Trip, specifically the nude beach scene

Bart De Vos

3:37 PM

I4m going home :)

bye guys

Dan

@Shads0 Euro-Trip is an almost perfect rendition of life over here. True story - even down to Vinny Jones headbutting everyone in the local boozer

Actually, that last bit is quite realistic

MikeyB

@Shads0 Oh my god, all I could think of was "Michelle! Eat a cheeseburger, girl!"

Shads0

@MikeyB All I could think of was "Damn, that Pete & Pete girl is actually hot"

MikeyB

@Shads0 Error: REFNOTFOUND

Shads0

@MikeyB eref??? huh?

OOOO

The Adventures of Pete & Pete

The Adventures of Pete & Pete is an American children's television series produced by Wellsville Pictures and broadcast by Nickelodeon. The show featured humorous and surreal elements in its narrative, and many recurring themes centered on two brothers both named Pete Wrigley, and their various interactions with family, friends, and enemies. The show was created by Will McRobb and Chris Viscardi and began as minute-long shorts in 1989 that aired in between regular programs. Owing to the popularity of the shorts, five half-hour specials were made, followed by a regular half-hour series t...

Scroll down to "Nona"

Bart Silverstrim

3:42 PM

I used to love that show!

MikeyB

@Shads0 Ah OK, never heard of the show. And thankfully, she's now within the age range where it's proper to drool over her.

Shads0

I wish I could find something higher than 240p quality. I would really love to re-watch it now that I'm much older and understand more, the show was so awesome

@MikeyB Which is why it's not creepy for me, as she is 4 years older than me >=D

MikeyB

@Shads0 Eh what? Oh, sorry, I got distracted doing a GIS for Michelle Trachtenberg…

Dan

@MikeyB Is most definitely NOT doing the same

Shads0

did you remember to lock your office?

MikeyB

3:49 PM

@Shads0 I said GIS, not 'whipping it out and Gumbeling'.

Shads0

Failing to see the difference.

Bart Silverstrim

Only one leaves the keyboard sticky.

Chris S

good golly... what the heck happened this morning?!

Shads0

2 hours ago, by Shads0

@KyleBrandt An argument broke out between someone and a mod, a post was posted on meta about modding the chat better. Another argument broke out between aforementioned user and another user. Things got flagged.

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someone sticky it so that we don't have to keep explaining xD

Chris S

@Shads0 Sorry, that was rhetorical.. Just spent the last 30 minutes reading, trying to figure out all out.

Shads0

4:01 PM

Ah

Chris S

Just in awe... If you're ever getting mad at someone you only know over the internet, you need to take 2 seconds, get some prospective and a deep breath; before starting a flame war that wont help anyone.

jscott

Wrong window :)

Holocryptic

@ChrisS Shit got real up in here

Bart Silverstrim

No more @Chopper3 :-(

Chris S

Who's flagging stuff??

Tom O'Connor

4:04 PM

@BartSilverstrim Can we bribe him back in with cake and kittens?

Chris S

@BartSilverstrim No more Chopper-Hammer.. I'm sure he'll be around.

MarkM

@Shads0 I thought you've been here longer than 6mo

Shads0

@ChrisS dunno, but shit was flagged

@MarkM technically, no, started the site july, started chat in Aug

Tom O'Connor

@Shads0 I have my suspicions.

Chris S

@Shads0 Just got another flag a moment ago for someone celebrating 30k Questions on Ask Ubuntu.

Shads0

4:05 PM

@TomOConnor does it really matter anymore? I liked it better when we were oggling 26 yr olds

jscott

@ChrisS saw that for 2-3 seconds, then it got dealt with

voretaq7

geez, I work odd shifts and I miss everything?

Shads0

@ChrisS prolly not the same person, but someone also flagged a post of yours on VTC

Chris S

Flags need 3 options: "Yes, offensive/spam", "Gray, no action", "No way, suspend the invalid flagger"

Bart Silverstrim

They won't tell who's flagging stuff. No one will say.

voretaq7

4:06 PM

@BartSilverstrim LaSeX?

@BartSilverstrim as it should be really - flags should be anonymous

otherwise we might beat up some flaggers

Chris S

Yeah; it should be anonymous. But if it's a really bad flag there should be consequences too.

Bart Silverstrim

But then there are those that flag and abuse it.

MarkM

@voretaq7 I kept waiting for you to show up earlier during the shitstorm and somehow make a giant metaphor out other mods banning people in this room and compare it to Linux bastardizing Unix things.

Looks like my headless snowman is by design :(

1

A: HALP! My snowman doesn't have a head!

IE9 was being a PITA as usual, so I disabled the snowmen there for now. I'll try to get it to work when I have the time; until then you'll have to live with a snowball.

AdrianK

This stuff is exactly why I don't do moderating stuff anymore. I got enough hassle raising my 2 kids and training a mid-20s Paduan up into a respectable sysadmin.

Tom O'Connor

@AdrianK I moderate IRC. With a fist of steel.

Chris S

4:13 PM

@MarkM Use a real browser... like anything but IE.

MarkM

@ChrisS Must. sync. bookmarks. with. icloud

Shads0

@AdrianK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Padawan, your misspelling in relation to the force gives me UNLIMITED POWAHHHHH

Chris S

@MarkM I don't sync yet.. Maybe someday, I do use FF on all 3 of the computers I regularly use.

AdrianK

Meh. Spelling is something that no gentleman bothers with.

MarkM

@ChrisS You should use FF Sync

It's pretty great

Shads0

4:18 PM

I was also seeing how many starwars memes I could pack into one

MarkM

If there were FF mobile for iPad, I'd be all set, but not having bookmark sync on ipad is savagely bad to me

AFAIK, you can only sync to mobile safari with iCloud which leaves me using IE on my lone (work) Windows PC.

syneticon-dj

I'm off. Thanks for the popcorn.

Tom O'Connor

Dear contractors. If you're going to drill holes in the wall of my comms room, please use dust extraction.

voretaq7

@MarkM naw, it's more like Windows users trying to admin a z/OS box

Chris S

Apple doesn't allow OSS in the ITMS, so no FF Mobile... Which doesn't bother me, I don't have an iPad.

Tom O'Connor

4:23 PM

Woo. He's gone.

voretaq7

Dear contractors: If I catch you in the comms room I will kill you.
(Fixed that for you)

Shads0

Chat has a full transcript

voretaq7

@Shads0 I suppose I should read that huh?

MarkM

If I change my name on main and search for my chat posts in chat transcripts, I assume the old transcripts do not update with my new name. Can anyone confirm that. Maybe DJ Pon3?

@voretaq7 that might be your loophole to showing off your epeen without them finding you being a dildo in chat.

^in reference to the link Iain posted in his meta question

Shads0

@voretaq7 My summary on the star wall is a good unbiased description of what happened

Tom O'Connor

4:28 PM

Whatever happened to Jacob?

Chris S

@TomOConnor He's in and out... Was just here yesterday.

See ya guys

Aww. Snowman!

@Dan see ya

@MarkM doesn't get one for using an inferior browser

MarkM

4:31 PM

:(

Basil

I'd take IE9 over firefox.

Shads0

@MarkM It's funny, isn't it?

@Basil I'd take Safari over IE9

Basil

It's almost as good as chrome, and FF has been sucking lately

MarkM

@Shads0 I prefer Safari

Basil

safari is bottom on my list.

Mostly because macs are stupid.

MarkM

4:34 PM

It sucks on Windows (obviously) but it's excellent on OS X.

Shads0

I do agree though, FF has fucked itself in the ass with this rapid release, but I just switched to chrome

MarkM

Firefox is way behind Safari in terms of feature parity on OS X

Lion specifically

Basil

I'd take z/OS over mac os ;)

AdrianK

@Shads0 I wish we could switch. It'll take our Dev staff a good 3 months to test each new version and 6 to test a new browser.

voretaq7

@MarkM honestly I don't view cursing in chat as a thing - and I'm adding my own answer to that meta as time permits today :-)

The only problem with OS X is the disk "scheduler". Worst. Secretary. Ever.
She lets everyone come in to the office and wait for you, but doesn't tell you they're waiting.

@AdrianK oh, do you work in healthcare too?

Shads0

4:36 PM

"Want to move cross country for a $8/hr internship?"

WTF?

The calls I get

MarkM

So, assuming there is another election in Chopper's absence, who in here is considering running?

Shads0

@AdrianK IE is a necessary evil, our payroll site requires it. I meant personally ;)

Basil

I keep getting calls from vendors. I'm happily finally seated across the table from them, and will never go back unless they offer me so much money that they need to invent a new word for it.

AdrianK

Yeah, I heard that. We run PeopleTrak, Sage FundRaising and Sage Accounting here for about 20 admin staff. It's all accessed through LTSP, so that I don't have to hear whining about our web app not rendering properly on IE.

voretaq7

@Shads0 "Sure. As long as you pay room and board." (...I'mma live me in a mansion!)

@MarkM I have very mixed feelings about running - it means I can't vote to close anymore

MarkM

4:44 PM

@voretaq7 Sure you can

You just have a super vote

I think that I may be the only high rep user in all of SE that's using IE 9 right now

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Q: Close dialogue not being dismissed after voting to close when accessed from /review in IE9

Using IE 9 x86 on Windows 7 X64 When I'm in the close tab of /review, whenever I vote to close a question, the dialog box for choosing what reason to close is never dismissed after I close my vote. If I manually close the box by clicking the X in the top left-hand corner I can see that my vote i...

bug vote-to-close review

pauska

@markm O P E R A

MarkM

@pauska meh

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

I've never been a fan of opera, tbh. I've given it a whirl more than once

AdrianK

@MarkM You just gave me a very strange visual of a bleating sheep. hmm.

MarkM

Ok, our christmas party is starting now

time to get bombed at noon

back in a bit

Holocryptic

5:01 PM

I have 3 Christmas parties this year. At the second one now. 3rd one tomorrow night

voretaq7

@MarkM that's the problem. I'm usually one of the first people to vote to close stuff. I wouldn't want to be mod-hammering posts, so by my own ethical guideline I'd have to wait until there was at least a 3/5 majority before I stepped in.

(unless it's spam. Spammers can die in a grain silo explosion.)

@Holocryptic dayum boy - you gets around!

Holocryptic

Yeah. Just not in the way I'd like to.

voretaq7

unfortunately I can't find the *Are You Being Served?* clip from the christmas party episode.
Rumbold: "...and that Captain Peacock pursued her very vigorously with his blow-tickler."
Peacock: "I object sir! I pursued *everyone* with my blow-tickler!"

Holocryptic

I think I remember that one.

Tom O'Connor

Has anyone got experience of running a 48v Datacentre?

Chopper3 would be the obvious choice, here.

voretaq7

5:07 PM

@TomOConnor not a full one, but our network racks were DC at $job[-2]

and we were always trying to get them to go for it at $job[-1]

Holocryptic

Looks like I'm a flagrant offender in the chat transcript.

voretaq7

($job[0] colocates, so I don't care about power factor and heat load, and it's cheaper to buy AC servers :P)

@Holocryptic you and your fscking ponies.

Holocryptic

Haha

voretaq7

(I was going to go with fsck /u but I'd probably get flagged...)

Tom O'Connor

0

Q: Using 48v for servers

I'm currently in the middle of a process to specify and design a new server environment for graphics and video rendering. We know we want to use blades, and we're pretty sure of our vendor decisions. We've got one massive problem, and that's power. At the moment, we're looking at getting more ...

hardware datacenter power cooling blade-servers

Sathya

5:14 PM

would this qualify as on-topic for Server Fault? /cc @Zypher

0

Q: will Amazon SES improve spam filtering through typical spam filtering packages

We built web applications which create a fair amount of transactional emails, such as tickets, reminders and logging messages. These emails are typically sent to end users, but most of them are also sent to users inside the client organisation, directly or via Bcc. Our solutions are typically ho...

email exchange spam amazon

syneticon-dj

Zypher

@Sathya sure

Holocryptic

@sathya I think so.... but I'm only one offensive man

Sathya

@Holocryptic @Zypher thanks, sent it your way

MikeyB

@syneticondj gasp?

syneticon-dj

5:27 PM

@MikeyB [man gasp](http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/gasp.1.html)
@TomOConnor: I never built that before or have seen it running recently, but can't imagine it being more energy-efficient - you get losses for dual conversions (down to 48V from AC and a rather expensive DC/DC conversion) and losses in power rails - for mere 2,000 W of power you would need immense 71 Ampere in current. You would not have to deal with wattless current though and it might be okay from the losses perspective if you are using online USVs running at the same internal voltage.

Beaming Mel-Bin

serverfault.com/questions/341305/… can someone recommend some tags for that question?

Kenny Rasschaert

Good $TIME_OF_DAY everyone.

voretaq7

@BeamingMelBin off-topic? :-) (actually I'm not sure - it's kind of a process/procedure/management question which are sometimes on-topic and sometimes not...)

Shads0

@BeamingMelBin retag-this-please

voretaq7

but to kinda answer your question, I refuse to work in organizations like the first one you described where everyone has their own little fiefdom -- One guy quits and the whole world falls apart. A good systems team has lots of shared knowledge, great documentation, and (of course) KITTENS.

Beaming Mel-Bin

5:34 PM

@voretaq7 yea, I suppose it might be. can you suggest anywhere else to put that up? I'd love to hear SF users' input

@voretaq7 yea, I'm kind of in between. I do not have the experience a lot of you gents and ladies have had. in one way, I liked "owning" a subject matter.... but yea, coverage is important.

mfinni

Beaming Mel-Bin : it seems like you could definitely benefit from buying the Practice of System and Network Administration (2nd Edition)

voretaq7

right here is probably the best place to discuss it :)

mfinni

@BeamingMelBin It's a well-written tome of some of the tried-and-true ways to manage IT

Beaming Mel-Bin

thanks @mfinni! I'll certainly check it out

voretaq7

@mfinni ...second? There's a SECOND??

mfinni

5:38 PM

It also mentions a number of bad practices too

@voretaq7 amazon.com/Practice-System-Network-Administration-Second/dp/…

I met Tom at LISA Boston last week, and thanked him for writing the Limoncelli Test. It helped me get the job I just started this week, by really condensing my questions and discussions during my interview

Beaming Mel-Bin

awesome @mfinni. think I've seen that book somewhere around the office. if I can't get my hands on it, I'll def purchase.

appreciate it!

syneticon-dj

@BeamingMelBin "owning" is a bitch. You can't even have a sick leave or vacation in good faith - especially when some change is going on.

Zypher

well, time to go back to firefox ... chrome no longer has verticle tabs

mfinni

@BeamingMelBin Glad to - I'll pimp that book every chance I get.

Beaming Mel-Bin

@syneticondj well, perhaps a owning it with a backup person.

@mfinni oh, sorry to hear. I've heard pimpin' ain't easy.

Scott Pack

5:46 PM

@MarkM I'm jealous. My workplace's secular holiday seasonal gathering potluck was dry. :-/

Holocryptic

Mmmm. Beer and percocet.

syneticon-dj

@BeamingMelBin a backup person who is not part of daily operations? Thank you so very much $COMPANYNAME.

Scott Pack

@Holocryptic I find that kind of drug related humor offensive. Cock.

AdrianK

@ScottPack That's the crappy part about working in mental health with a chem. dependency unit. All the buildings are dry and no "weapons" either. Even pocket knives are kinda wink 'n' nod.

Holocryptic

I'd flag your response to me but the mobile version of chat on droid is for shit

tombull89

5:51 PM

@Holocryptic ooh, you swore. I better flag you.

AdrianK

@Holocryptic "s/mobile version of chat on//" Not happy with my Droid lately. Probably going Iphone when the contract ends in March.

Holocryptic

Ban me all you want. I'll take another percocet and drink a beer waiting for the time to expire.

Beaming Mel-Bin

@syneticondj point taken. I suppose, IMHO, the ideal system would be two owners of a subject matter.

Holocryptic

Im fine with the droid in general. But the chat ia limites

Beaming Mel-Bin

@syneticondj or rather *at least 2 owners...

Holocryptic

5:54 PM

And new messages screw up landscape typing

Aaron

so TAC person says 'ok, thanks for the the logs, I'm going to work on it, here's my contact info'

Tom O'Connor

@syneticondj Thanks. You might want to answer the original question as an Answer so I can upvote it.

Aaron

I call back next morning to find out what's going on, and the number rings to someone else's maybe personal voice mail?

so I call into TAC to find out what happened, and he's like 'yeah, that number isn't even close'

syneticon-dj

I'd say one "owner" as in "person who is in charge for process definitions" but at least two who are doing the dirty work

Scott Pack

@AdrianK I work for a state university. It's the same.

syneticon-dj

6:00 PM

@TomOConnor it's not my area of expertise, so consider it not an answer but rather an educated guess. BTW: 48V DC PSUs are expensive. The HP 437573-B21 costs three times as much as its AC counterpart 578322-B21

Tom O'Connor

@syneticondj Insanity. They should be cheaper, not more expensive.

AdrianK

@ScottPack Feel your pain. Enough of our staff are so fresh out of school that I might as well be working at a Uni.

Scott Pack

@AdrianK I really enjoy the culture and freedom of working at a university. However, being a state agency does put a damper on our secular seasonal gathering potlucks.

Tom O'Connor

hightech.lbl.gov/documents/data_centers/DCDemoFinalReport.pdf Interesting reading.

syneticon-dj

@TomOConnor it's the "exotic equipment" price tag I guess.

MikeyB

6:05 PM

@TomOConnor Volume, volume, volume. And telcos pay more.

@syneticondj Holy shit, I just checked and the IBM 48V blade chassis runs you around 20K list vs. around 6K list. That's nuts.

Aaron

I think it's supply and demand for a lot of those 48V power supplies

voretaq7

@mfinni Oldness. You make me feel it. :'(

syneticon-dj

afk

voretaq7

@AdrianK iPhone sucks! (says the iPhone user)

AdrianK

@mfinni Love me some TPS&NA. You mentioned "bad practices", did you mean practices Tom recommended but aren't a good idea, or simply examples of what not to do?

mfinni

6:12 PM

@voretaq7 March of progress, man.

AdrianK

@voretaq7 And using my Droid as a music player sucks even more. =(

voretaq7

@MikeyB raaaaaaaaaaaaaape!

mfinni

@AdrianK "Don't do this" anecdotes.

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 You do have a point. I hear that IBM accepts sodomy as currency.

AdrianK

@mfinni Ah. have to admit, I'm a bit of a Limoncelli fanboi.

MikeyB

6:14 PM

@voretaq7 Mind you, that's list.

AdrianK

@WesleyDavid I don't think that's what my manager meant when he said "Blue Dollars".

WesleyDavid

@AdrianK You're so naive it's cute. Bite on this towel.

AdrianK

Maybe that's a hardware division thing.

MikeyB

@AdrianK Have you heard about the new "Rear Door Heat Exchanger" technology? It's not what you think.

AdrianK

Ah. Probably best to wear Carhartts then. A little sturdier fabric...

MikeyB

6:19 PM

(cleaning my desk) Oooohh! A Palm Treo! Color! And a BW GSM model...

growse

Hello catfans

Ok, I just read "Limoncelli fanboi". What?

voretaq7

@MikeyB so as an IBM partner I get lube?

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MikeyB

@voretaq7 Nope, classified as a consumable.

voretaq7

... EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW I LEARNED FROM THE iSERIES!
RAID Controller battery expired? NO IPL! === Lube expired? NO SODOMY!

AdrianK

@growse I indoctrinate all the new paduans with Limoncelli's TPS&NA. Good stuff in there.

voretaq7

6:33 PM

Undocumented AS/400 commands, volume 20.
FRYFLDENG -- Fry a Field Service Engineer, to be used in correcting substantial incompetence, such as trying to replace a hard drive to correct a processor fault.
Example`FRYFLDENG *AC *240`

WesleyDavid

6:45 PM

@voretaq7 When you go out to lunch with an IBM sales rep, asking for a tossed salad can be rather shocking.

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AdrianK

@WesleyDavid My favorite is when a sales rep calls me up trying to sell me the software I used to work on. That's the best evar!

Aaron

err whoa
w-t-f happened over the past 24 hours

Holocryptic

LoL. People.

voretaq7

@Aaron Things and Stuff.