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10:00 PM
@badp Oh, I know. I'm not whining for more power. Just saying that it still takes a diamond to actually manage a room.
 
for example, I cannot blacklist people from talking in a room
 
@growse hahah the 408 one.. lool
 
as somebody has been calling for on meta and here, I forget who
 
someone should have linked it in the heat of the debate
 
The only way to achieve that while keeping everybody else in is to ban that user from the entirety of chat indefinitely
 
10:00 PM
definitely not me -- I despise blacklisting people. Again it doesn't solve the problem (they'll just go be destructive on the main site)
 
(which, btw, can't be done either)
 
@badp Someone called for a blacklist of users on meta?
 
@Shads0 That's what I recall; I might be wrong. I'm just putting it out there, it can't be done (right now)
 
@badp A room owner can't either, which is what's unfortunate.
 
@ScottPack Well you can kinda sorta hack around that by making the room a gallery and then granting permissions to everybody else asking for it.
...but that's a kludge.
 
10:02 PM
@badp One of our regular chatters called for a bit of a tonedown, I don't remember a blacklist being mentioned o.x
 
@badp kludge is a word for it, but I think think of a lot better words that would probably be flag worthy :)
 
@Shads0 The meta.stackoverflow, not meta.serverfault
 
@Zoredache ah, my misunderstanding then
 
@ScottPack a fucking terrible idea, how the hell do I even breathe and come up with shit like that at the same time?
(I also like to spice up my talking with some swearing here and there :P)
 
@badp flagged!!!!!! ZOMFGGG
 
10:03 PM
 
Ironically, its that kind of language that got me banned for an hour for what @voretaq7 pointed out was said hours before the ban
 
@pauska OMGGG
 
@Shads0 As I said, Gaming also has had its share of "undeserved bans"
You're totally not alone there - it's just, we live with that, because after all it was flagged by one of the regulars.
 
I can imagine the flame wars over there.. "BF3 is the bestest!" "No, COD4!!!"
 
@badp I don't doubt it...question is how many of those flags were because of xbox vs ps3 wars :)
 
10:05 PM
One of us found issue with it and shoved it on the screens of more people who also found issue with it.
So... yeah, it wasn't the smartest idea :)
 
@pauska No one on Gaming plays Battlefield or Call of Duty. ♪
 
@pauska I'm..... not sure if that's offensive. It's definitely CREEPY though.
 
@Shads0 I'm glad I don't have an answer to that
but I'd say pretty low
 
@pauska get with the times, its cod 8 now
 
@GraceNote You have to explain that meme to me
 
10:06 PM
♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪
 
@pauska ...that we don't play Battlefield or Call of Duty? We... just don't have a large audience for it among our regulars.
 
irc://irc.freenode.net/##thecommsroom Just Sayin'
 
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aaargh I want to migrate it to apple.se but I cant
 
J
 
:(
 
10:07 PM
@badp That's the problem - it may not be a regular doing the flagging (because flags are, and should be, anonymous you can't know, but you sort of give it the benefit of the doubt)
 
@TomOConnor looks empty
 
@ScottPack It is so far.
 
@voretaq7 psst, moderators get to know who's casted the first stone.
 
@pauska pump up your needs mod attention flag
@badp heh, us 10k peons don't :(
 
@TomOConnor I'll have to add that to my autojoin config
 
10:08 PM
Well, yeah, flags are private aren't they?
 
@badp honestly were I implementing it I'd hide it from mods too until after it's acted on
I'm a big fan of blind justice though
 
Although really, that bit of information only is useful if you see the same person doing the same questionable kind of flagging multiple times. Most of the time I don't really look at it, so don't feel discouraged by that
 
@TomOConnor it works!
 
@badp yeah I can see it being useful for serial-flagger detection. Conversely I'd prefer to see an algorithm doing that (like we have for serial downvotes)
 
@voretaq7 This information has been held from us for the longest time, mind you. If balpharc could get away with not telling us, they would.
 
10:10 PM
lets just turn moderation over to a giant eliza program. I'm sure it'll be fine.
How does it being fine make you feel? :)
 
:2728173 Freenode namespacing.. Double ## for non-opensource projects, single # for those.
 
It's just, when you have people that are spamming flags for shit and giggles, you really can't wait for somebody with db access to tell you who's doing what
(been there done that)
 
@voretaq7 You mean Eliza from the Couch channel?
 
@badp true, and aside from (what would have to be pretty crafty & hard to get right) algorithmic detection all the other ways to peek behind the curtain would be narsty.
 
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this must look funny when its data mined
 
10:13 PM
bwahaha
 
one of the comments are "Have you considered killing her too?"
 
At any rate, I hope this little insight helped you understand why things are the way they currently are, and what has been tried in the past about it. Now, I really gotta go
 
@Zoredache that's terrible. TERRIBLE
 
@pauska If we still had our [murder] tag, we'd have a wealth of similarly "dangerous" material
 
@badp Go? Oh no my friend, you can't leave... the doors seal themselves after you enter <insert evil laughter here>
 
10:14 PM
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Kaestur HakarlI am playing a human wizard, and I just killed a monster, leaving a corpse on the ground. How do I tell whether it is safe to eat this corpse? I leave the monster unspecified because I am interested in "how can I figure out whether this is edible," rather than whether any particular monster is e...

 
@badp Hey. That's an important question!
 
@voretaq7 Oh, but I have diamond-grade lazers. Your doors are no match for them.
 
HAHAH
 
I think Eliza is encouraging me to kill myself.
 
@badp well... as long as you pay for the repairs.
 
10:15 PM
@voretaq7 You can charge Fredy for those.
 
(wrong room for that joke)
 
@badp fail
 
@badp Not gonna stop me.
 
@badp @GraceNote look as long as I get paid...
 
@GraceNote fair enough
 
10:17 PM
@voretaq7 Excellent. It's a pleasure doing business with you.
 
The fridge is too full of beer, so we've been told to drink some of it. Ah, work.
 
I'll let Fredy know the next time he crashes into the Bridge.
 
@GraceNote Crashes into what? We're completely out of doors!
 
TOO. MUCH. BLUE.
 
@sysadmin1138 .... trade jobs?
 
10:18 PM
@badp That hasn't stopped him. Last time he crashed through the word "through".
 
We have.... uh.... tea
 
@GraceNote hrm. Those pesky users.
 
In other news
in The Couch on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 25 secs ago, by Eliza
@Shads0 You like to think I flag you -- don't you?
 
@voretaq7 We may be hiring this year, I'll be sure to spread the news if/when it happens.
 
Well. What a day it's been.
I've had RL shit with British Telecom, and their totally incompetent engineers. We've had crap at work with a PBX installer, who's using a piece of shit panasonic system, and we should be using VoIP. I've got no fecking work done all day because of the sheer amount of pointless crap I've had to deal with. Do I really need a BT engineer to ask me where's best to route a cable. . He does this every day.. Just bloody deal with it.

On top of that, I've seen enough crap here to make me set up a freenode channel. At least there it's unindexed, unmoderated, and le
 
10:19 PM
@Shads0 . . . what happens if Eliza gets a 10-minute chat suspension?
 
@sysadmin1138 Oh shut up you.. :<
 
@voretaq7 Can't happen.
 
@voretaq7 I would love to find out...can we have an approved flag against him/her/it? =3
 
@badp what if I manipulate it into spouting profanity?
 
@voretaq7 Then it's 30 minutes, not 10.
 
10:20 PM
"I are a robot"
 
@badp hmm, seems a bit harsh.... but still. I WANNA SEE! I WANNA SEE!
Where will she go? Does she migrate herself to another computer and sulk in the swap partition?
 
I had a eliza robot scanning a chat room on #efnet for two days
(with having it muted)
 
in The Couch on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 15 secs ago, by Eliza
@ChrisS Does it please you to believe I am being a bit negative?
 
then I turned on the response, without having to prefix the bot
 
10:21 PM
@badp snerk
 
It was funny seeing people starting to talk with her (this was #freebsdhelp)
 
@pauska Was she actually helpful?
 
She was like "Why don't you rc.conf edit on freebsd 7?"
@voretaq7 No, she created the worst argument I've ever seen in the channel and got kickbanned
 
@pauska She said something insane like we should drop CLANG/LLVM and go with the new GCC, didn't she?
 
in The Couch on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 17 secs ago, by Eliza
@Shads0 Perhaps in your fantasies we please each other.
 
10:23 PM
@Shads0 You're a dirty guy....
 
I'm in fucking tears XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 
and I'm outta stars.
 
OH YOU GOT SO OWNED BY A BOT
this must hurt alot
 
@Shads0 Dude. Is this your first time with Eliza? :-)
 
saving screenshot for later usage
 
10:24 PM
@voretaq7 aye, haha
 
@pauska That may actually erase everyone's memories of The Sock Incident
 
I have a pretty strong feeling it will, yes
feel free to bookmark/share the image
 
@pauska If a lego fleshlight can't, then nothing will ;)
 
@pauska I'll just bookmark the permalink. Which auto-inlines.
 
"Please read the back of this paper for the terms and conditions"
*flips to back*
"Full terms and conditions will be sent with your card when you sign up"

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
10:27 PM
that was the bot I ran
 
@Shads0 Illegal. (at least here)
You can't be bound by agreeing to something you never received.
 
@voretaq7 Talk to Discover, bud
 
The loophole is great though
@Shads0 I'm sure they use the loophole. The T&C sheet they send you includes the "and we can change whatever we want, whenever we want, and you can just suck it!" clause.
 
@voretaq7 Which is why I read everything
Thats stupid, only get cashback on things they decide during certain months
I hate credit cards, why would anyone sign up for them
 
@Shads0 you need to have a decent credit score to get a mortgage....
 
10:32 PM
@voretaq7 Do car payments, tuition, and credit with retailers (not a card, credit) count?
 
@TomOConnor Too bad chop isn't around. He's got all the ins at BT
 
@Shads0 Because the alternative is to have trouble buying things.
 
@sysadmin1138 And I , of course, have to be a guy that hates owing money ><
 
Any reason why you can't amend the T&C's yourself, cross out clauses you don't like and mail them back with your application and a note saying "I agree, subject to these changes enclosed"?
Be interesting if they still let you use the card, and if they do, is that implicit acceptance of your amends?
 
@TomOConnor: Oh come on, don't leave us.. all hope is not lost. Many of the mods have agreed that they stepped over the line, and we're going to get chopper back (atleast as a regular user)
 
10:36 PM
@Shads0 Neither do I. I pay mine off every freaking month. Once in a great while I'll carry a balance just to keep 'em interested.
 
@sysadmin1138 I'm 2 months ahead on everything I owe, I got a $1k credit with Dell for a new laptop, paid it off before the bill came. Surprised I didn't get a raise in my limit.
I couldn't keep a balance that I can't instantly pay off if my life depended on it.
 
@pauska And Chopper will get to join in the flag-weight olympics.
 
@sysadmin1138 Which hopefully will be changed so that we get to say something before the rest of SX comes barging in the door
 
@sysadmin1138 All this attention on my meta and I still can't get an answer about why my flag was dismissed :)
 
@Shads0 as installment credit, not revolving :)
 
10:38 PM
@MarkM It's because you use IE9, I'm tellin ya
@voretaq7 There's 2 types? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
I put all my commute expenses on my amex card.
I get ridonkulus hilton honors points as a result.
 
honestly - do people use IRC anymore? what kind of client do they use on windows?
cause I'm not paying for no stinkin mIRC
 
@Shads0 I'm home now. Safari 5 ftw
 
I use irssi when I'm not puttying to my vps.
 
I remember using bersirc.. but that has apparently died in 2005 or so
 
10:39 PM
(don't ban me, ftw is For The Win in this case)
 
irssi for windows is just as awesome as irssi for *nix
 
@MarkM Every time I think about dismissing a flag, I think, Is this worth a meta-fight over?
 
@PeterGrace I did that at work for a bit, but the Finance dept got twitchy
 
yeah I have irssi on my ubuntu box aswell
 
and I have 11 windows of irc open in irssi, btw.
it's not dead at all, not by a long shot.
all the people who started with irc, the die hards from the 90s, they're still around mostly.
 
10:40 PM
@sysadmin1138 Heh. You dismissed one of mine once, I asked on meta and you answered and that was the end of it
 
@Shads0 www.creditkarma.com baby :)
 
I just want to know where I go wrong, especially because the fw hit is so uneven at the higher numbers
 
@Shads0 If yo have installment accounts mortgage/car loan places look at those too
 
@PeterGrace I only used efnet, and it died off there
 
@voretaq7 was ist das?
 
10:41 PM
@MarkM Yeah. We have it easy, though. The programmers.se mods are frikkin heros of the revolution. Any time they break out the mod-hammer, it ends up on meta more often than not. That includes closed questions and deleted comments.
 
@Shads0 website for tracking credit scores 'n stuffs
Found it after Chase bought my bank and I lost my free credit score tracking thingy I had through them.
 
@Shads0 When did you get banned? Why?
 
@WesleyDavid About 2pm EST for a message literally 4 hours old as a joke to somethin @MarkM said.
 
@TomOConnor And yes, during this whole debaucle I was considering setting up an IRC channel on my dedi server.
 
Albiet full of profanity, it was sitting there for 4 freakin' hours
 
10:43 PM
@WesleyDavid Unless you make it one box, I'm sticking here unless I get modhammered
 
@Shads0 Wow, I've run through the seven deadly words multiple times and nothing. I think you just met someone on their bad day.
 
@pauska I ssh to a linux box, and fire up irssi inside GNU screen like any self-respecting IRC user does.
 
@WesleyDavid I'm not the only one as @RobMoir got banned too for something
 
@WesleyDavid Um, have you been in here at all today?
 
@Zoredache yeah thats what I always did before.. my interest just died
 
10:44 PM
@pauska Flagged for IRC hatred. You are now classified as a Grade A loser. Oh, and sock monkey.
 
@WesleyDavid Multiple people were timed out
 
@MarkM I came in after the other-site mods had done their business. I only heard about it.
 
Ah
 
@PeterGrace I started with IRC in 1996 I think, so I'm still a noob. =(
 
@WesleyDavid IDK when I started with IRC, but I gave it up in college.
 
10:46 PM
So yeah, I'm surprised I've never been banned - except by request.
@voretaq7 Sooo... the 70s? =P
 
@WesleyDavid Kitty want a bath?
 
@voretaq7 Likewise, only difference, I'm 22 :)
 
@voretaq7 Wait, when do you turn 30?
 
With chat behavior reboot, I'm thinking of changing my user name to separate myself from previous comments in chat
If anyone else is doing it, i suggest we wait 1 week between each person changing so that everyone can be accustomed to it. I have first dibs
 
Conspicuous silence.
 
10:48 PM
It was hard enough when @ScottPack changed his name and got rid of the giant eye gravitar
 
@MarkM Yeah, what a douchecanoe.
 
or the dj<whatever> that I still cant remember the original name of
 
@WesleyDavid 29th
 
@WesleyDavid Flagged for excellent use of doucecanoe
 
@MarkM Doesn't it change in chat?
 
10:49 PM
who was that really?
@voretaq7 YES!!! I'm younger than you
\o/
 
@BartDeVos It does, but anyone new searching in history won't find the old stuff under markm
 
@MarkM IDK, this is the name I use for everything everywhere
 
I'm only 26, you old fartboxes
@voretaq7 Be something like voretaq7&nbsp
 
@MarkM 22, Gramps
 
@voretaq7 This month? Oh cool. Happy B-day.
 
10:51 PM
Then blame it on shitty encoding
 
and honestly let's see how much of a reboot we have -- I think most of the antics (memes, etc.) will stick around, and just the more offensive ones will vanish
 
I'm not 30 until next august
 
@voretaq7: How are we supposed to pronounce that nick of yours? Vourtaxseven?
 
@MarkM MARKDOWN IS BROKEN BY DESIGN!
 
Vourtaxeven?
 
10:51 PM
@pauska good enough.
 
@pauska I pronounce it "Death from Above"
 
In my head, I say "Vore Tack Seven"
 
the seven is pronounced separately from the rest
 
In my head he's also a giant robot
 
@MarkM lets just agree on "tacky" then
 
10:52 PM
@MarkM also acceptable
 
Fine with me
 
@MarkM zSeries.
 
@WesleyDavid november here. haha, you old fart!
 
@voretaq7 So what's the consensus here. No more boobs, everything else is cool?
 
...Is AWS EC2 a 100MBit network? It sure feels like it.
 
10:53 PM
Yeah, but that still doesn't change the fact that
1) You're fucking Norwegian
2) You have 7,000 rep on super user
3) Ur sock
Dammit all
 
@WesleyDavid I DO NOT HAVE REP ON SUPER USER! TAKE THAT BACK!!!
 
Everyone hit refresh and be confused
 
I have no idea why my chat profile popup points to superuser
 
I have a new name
 
@pauska Although, I should say that Norway is high on my list of countries to flee to if Gengrich gets elected.
 
10:54 PM
mwahahaha
wait
it's changed on SF but not in chat?
 
@MarkM If it's not Lord_of_the_Pies I'm going to armbar you.
 
...
WHY ISNT MY NAME CHANGING
 
My order of countries to flee to is in this order:
1) Netherlands
2) Australia
3) Norway / Sweden
4) Iceland
 
it takes a while
 
@pauska That's what she... wait... what can we be banned for again? =|
 
10:55 PM
Is there an easy way to copy this to my other SE profiles?
 
@WesleyDavid Just about everything, just keep silent so you dont get any flags
 
besides going to each individually?
 
@pauska Flagged for being subversive.
 
@MarkM: what is your new one? so I dont forget who you are
 
@MarkM Yes, I believe there is a "copy to all" link somewhere.
 
10:56 PM
@sysadmin1138 Do you know why my chat profile points to SU? :(
 
@pauska Because you like public humiliation and shame?
 
@pauska MDMarra
My gravitar is staying
 
oh I found it
 
@pauska Change where your network profile points by default
 
I wonder if I should change my name.
 
10:57 PM
@MarkM On the edit page, below "save profile" is a button to "Copy profile to all stack-exchange networks".
 
what the hell, I have 7500 rep on su?
um
 
@pauska Not off hand.
 
@sysadmin1138 I just found it
Thanks
 
I have 191 rep on SU
 
@pauska That's the total from all SE networks
 
10:57 PM
why does it say on chat that I have 7500 rep?
 
I'd change my nick to ಠ_ಠ but some guy on SO has a similar name.
 
17 secs ago, by MarkM
@pauska That's the total from all SE networks
 
@MarkM ah
 
damnit chat name
 
10:58 PM
@pauska 1) You're SU user was the master user for all of your accounts, 2) The number is the total of all your SE accounts.
@pauska I would like to formally apologize for accusing you of having significant reputation on SU. I am abashed and penitent.
 
@pauska That's your total across ALL SE sites.
 
Yes, and now it shows the ServerFault icon as your main account, so you must have changed something somwhere. BEfore it showed the SU icon.
 
yeah I changed it
but check out the link
 
@MarkM The funny thing about all of this is that I thought you were middle of the road as far as raw language and imagery were concerned.
 

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