The Hangar

12:04 AM

@BretCopeland yeah, it's really a question of "which is the main tag?" - all of these things are going to need to be synonym'd otherwise people will just keep re-creating the "wrong" tag :)

egid

once we can manage synonyms, can't you pick the source one anyway?

:)

Anonymous

just bought the canon rebel t3

Anonymous

money well spent

lnafziger

5:37 AM

@voretaq7: I'm in your neighborhood tonight!

voretaq7

@lnafziger Are you enjoying our still-unseasonably-warm weather?

lnafziger

Yeah, we are supposed to get a low of 29 in Florida tonight so I'm not missing much, lol.

voretaq7

and somebody went on a dumpster dive in the FAA's doc pile, didn't you? :)

lnafziger

I'm in Teterboro and get to go up with a Fed tomorrow for a checkride.

Hey, it took a lot of digging to come up with that answer... It was a tough one!

And then you go and accept it right away so that people quit looking at it (and I don't get as many up-votes), lol.

voretaq7

@lnafziger heh I can unaccept it for a day or so :)

lnafziger

5:41 AM

lol, no worries. I do try to wait at least a day for others when it's a good answer as a courtesy though. :)

voretaq7

I'm still trying to find something that says AFD remarks are/are not regulatory/mandatory - besides 91.103 :P

and I'm not sure what to make of this one :)

lnafziger

What does 91.103 say?

voretaq7

@lnafziger that's the "must become familiar with all available information concerning the flight" regulation

lnafziger

@DannyBeckett: Hey, that's the command that I wanted to add to the bot: !!regulation 91.103 (and have it print 91.103)

Ahh yes, that isn't very specific.

Is there a statement in the beginning of the AFD about the regulatory applicability or anything?

voretaq7

should probably make it !!FAR xxx.yyy (and maybe a corresponding !!AIM x-y-z)

@lnafziger hmmm, that's a good question. I can't remember the last paper AFD I had

lnafziger

5:45 AM

@DannyBeckett: Or even better, as @voretaq7 says, !!FAR xxx.xxx and !!AIM x-x-x

I know that feeling, me either.

voretaq7

(and I'm not paying the FAA to download the PDFs because - uh, hello, I have foreflight ya bastard)

oh hey maybe that has the AFD guide pages in documents!

lnafziger

Probably does

voretaq7

oh for the love of kittens.... new chart cycle. Stupid digital monthly....

foreflight REALLY needs to download this shit in the background :P

there's a supplemental document - which is at the bottom of the download list after the uh.... 23 charts I have left to fetch :P

lnafziger

lmao

gotta love it

voretaq7

they need to switch to vector graphics. Smaller, infinite scaling...

Undo

5:54 AM

So we've been public for a while now, right?

voretaq7

@Undo Since 12/24

Undo

Hmm...

so the Beta badge cronjob has definitely had a change to run, right @voretaq?

(trying to shed some list on an mSO q)

voretaq7

@Undo yeah, but I think you only get that after all the betas are closed (?)

i.e. when the site is graduated

I could be wrong though, I'm a terrible mod and don't know any of this shit :P

lnafziger

Hey Undo

I read another MSO question and it said that they were awarded at the end of the private beta?

Undo

Should be.

voretaq7

5:59 AM

@lnafziger quite possible, like I said I'm a terrible mod and don't know any of this shit :P

I just assume that eventually I'll get badges and stuff :)

Undo

I have the badge on Space.

lnafziger

like this one: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/64152/…

voretaq7

that seems to imply that it's a manual process

Undo

I would imagine that SE has done enough of these site-launchings that things like that wouldn't happen... But maybe.

voretaq7

and the lack of badges would probably imply that it's STILL manual

Undo

6:01 AM

That q was from 2010

I would hope there is some kind of a checklist or something

voretaq7

well how often do we launch new sites? (don't answer that!)

bwahahahaha checklists

lnafziger

@voretaq7 Haha, it kind of does imply that, but you would think that they've done enough of these by now to have a system in place.

voretaq7

@Undo like the preflight checklist that says "Look in the tanks and make sure you have fuel" and all the fuel exhaustion incidents we have every year?

lnafziger

Maybe they need to add a "don't let the fuel get below 1/4 tank" item to the checklist?

"Well, it was good when I checked it!"....

voretaq7

@lnafziger Being as I'm far too lazy to use a fuel straw if I look in the tank and the fuel is below the little metal tab I declare the tank empty and call the fuel truck :P

lnafziger

6:04 AM

@voretaq7: Haha, probably a good idea anyway.

@Undo: Thanks for looking into it. Not a huge deal, but since I noticed it I figured I'd let you guys know.

voretaq7

(Reason #7 I went with the 180HP Cherokee - Even if I cram 4 fat-ass 200 pounders & baggage in the plane I can still take at least standard fuel.)

@lnafziger @Undo You can throw up a bug post on Meta.AV and I'll prod folks in TL tomorrow if they don't notice :)

lnafziger

@voretaq7: I put it on Meta.SO figuring that it is probably system wide and not specific to us.

(That's how Undo ran into it.)

voretaq7

either way :)

allegedly per-site metas get coverage for bug patrol (practically a mod usually grouses in TL if bug posts on site metas get ignored :-)

@lnafziger Downloads Complete -- the closest thing I can find is in the directory legend

> Airport remarks are limited to those items of information that are determined essential for operational use … knowledge of which is essential for safe and efficient operation of aircraft

lnafziger

@voretaq7 Hmmm... Sounds important.

voretaq7

sounds like the intent is "Do what you're told, jackass" :-)

lnafziger

6:17 AM

lol, yup.

voretaq7

And this reminds me I eventually have to ask the Cylinder Compression question

lnafziger

6:37 AM

Which one?

voretaq7

@lnafziger "Why the heck do we care about cylinder compressions?"

(there's an awesome Mike Busch webinar about that, and why soft cylinders don't matter much. And here these nice aussies are with an engine that, in a differential compression test, would have a reading of 0/80...)

Anonymous

12:25 PM

good morning

roe

afternoon ;)

Anonymous

sup @roe

roe

not much, lunch break

Anonymous

just got to $work

Danny Beckett

1:54 PM

Anyone know if there's a list of UK callsigns? Wondering who "Scarecrow" is (heard on Manchester ATC)

roe

2:16 PM

@DannyBeckett; I saw your post on liveatc, it's not in wikipedias list

Danny Beckett

@roe Yeah I tried searching a couple of lists I have links to, and Google too... nothing came up. Kinda why I'm interested

do you post on Live ATC or just browse? @roe

roe

@DannyBeckett from time-to-time, i think i have ~30 posts.

Danny Beckett

ah ok, was just wondering if you'd posted any interesting recordings

The Aviation Audio Clips forum is a daily click for me

roe

I've condensed a few from the archives on request, but I haven't caught any myself. Yeah, same here, i pretty much go through all unread topics on a daily basis.

Danny Beckett

Just saw a plane's transponder drop off on Flight Radar 24 at FL200!! :O

trying to pull it up on the playback

callsign C550

not sure where I got FL200 from, it was at 5,500 ft

Go to flightradar24.com/53.46,-2.71/9 and choose Playback for 14:20 UTC

Cessna 550 Citation Bravo - squawk 0617 @ 330 kts

...hope it was just a transponder issue, he was descending though

roe

2:42 PM

To be honest, it's probably neither, there are glitches from time to time and the updates aren't reaching the website.

Danny Beckett

It was doing 300kts though

The max speed for a Cessna 150 is 109 kts @roe

roe

sure, but the 150 is a light single, the citation is a jet :)

Danny Beckett

oh shit, 5 50

roe

@DannyBeckett; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_Citation_II cruises at 400 kts

Danny Beckett

ah, that's better then!

I shit myself for a moment there, thinking it was a 1 50

overspeed

Stack Exchange

3:17 PM

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Stack Exchange

3:41 PM

-1

Q: What can we do about users asking bizarre, inappropriate questions repeatedly?

Consider the questions of User Danny Beckett: He asks if he should bring parachutes and oxygen canisters on planes to increase his chances of survival. He asks about the meal-details of the crew, to avoid food poisoning. He's worried about pilots who have been drinking. He keeps watch on radar ...

Anonymous

> "vote down requires 125 rep"

Anonymous

damn i want to vote it down to oblivion

Anonymous

50 rep to comment? foolish!

Stack Exchange

4:06 PM

This Day in Aviation: 7 January 1980

posted on January 07, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

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called2voyage

4:49 PM

@bretcopeland Is now a good time for mod pro tem nominations?

Bret Copeland

5:00 PM

@called2voyage the community team apparently thinks so.

called2voyage

@BretCopeland Is someone planning to create a question for it?

Bret Copeland

@called2voyage I'm not sure. I think they generally just pick unless people start posting opinions on meta. Were you wanting to make a suggestion?

called2voyage

@BretCopeland No, but I noticed that no nomination post had been created so I was thinking of creating one but wanted to run it by someone before I did.

called2voyage

5:17 PM

@BretCopeland Posted:

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Q: Who should our moderators be?

I have received word that the community managers are ready to pick moderators pro tem for Aviation. With that in mind, I thought I'd ask anyone if they have any suggestions. Feel free to nominate yourself or someone else in a community wiki answer to this question. If your meta site does n...

discussion moderators

Stack Exchange

5:29 PM

0

Q: Who should our moderators be?

I have received word that the community managers are ready to pick moderators pro tem for Aviation. With that in mind, I thought I'd ask anyone if they have any suggestions. Feel free to nominate yourself or someone else in a community wiki answer to this question. If your meta site does n...

discussion moderators

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Q: Who should the moderators be?

One of the 7 Essential questions that all new communities need to ask is who in the community would be well suited to help lead the site to a successful graduation? Each beta site needs at least three moderators pro tempore to provide leadership and guidance, help the community with janitorial t...

discussion featured moderation

called2voyage

@timpost Oops, didn't mean to duplicate your effort there.

I'm not sure which one of us posted first.

Feel free to delete mine if you'd prefer yours, and I'll move my nomination to yours.

Tim Post

@called2voyage Eeek! I didn't see the one you posted. Removed mine.

I did a quick search for [moderation] , whoops :)

called2voyage

oops, should probably make that a tag synonym or something.

egid

5:48 PM

what kind of involvement level is expected of appointed moderators?

called2voyage

@egid I moderate two relatively new beta sites and don't find the load too overwhelming.

On a good week I do try to visit stack exchange every week day.

But even that isn't strictly necessary.

There aren't any hard and fast requirements, and all moderators and Stack Exchange employees understand that mod positions are voluntary and people have real lives to attend to.

This is part of the reason why most sites have at least three mods--so they can cover each other when one or two mods need to step away for a while for something.

Anonymous

0

A: I just saw a plane drop off online radar; should I do anything about it?

Nah. I wouldn't do anything about it Spongebob. Probably just a blip on the radar...

Anonymous

wot

egid

flagged ;|

called2voyage

flagged

Anonymous

5:59 PM

same

Anonymous

0

A: Who should our moderators be?

I would like to nominate voretaq7. Voretaq7 is already an active member of other SE sites, and he has shown to be valuable to the growing Aviation community, his profile confirms that, too.

Anonymous

@voretaq7 ^

Anonymous

I just noticed that this place is the first time where I've stopped being simply a chat dweller, and actually contributed to the site itself.

voretaq7

@called2voyage see above :-)

Anonymous

@voretaq7 be our almighty mod

voretaq7

6:05 PM

@egid Generally mods are expected to keep an eye on the flag queue and do the odd spam patrol - the time commitment varies depending on the number of mods, the activity level of the site, and how psychotic your co-moderators are

(e.g. on Server Fault I don't really have to do much because MichaelHampton is all over the flag queue & crap posts like white on rice)

@PatoSáinz do y'all really want to give me modlike powers? You know I'm just going to abuse them :)

Anonymous

@voretaq7 shut up and be my ruler <3

Anonymous

(no homo)

called2voyage

@voretaq7 Experienced abuse is better than inexperienced abuse?

;)

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz never homo. story of my life. <sulks and watches Arrow - violence and Stephen Amell will cheer me up> :-P

Anonymous

lol

voretaq7

6:10 PM

@called2voyage BALEET ALL THE THINGS!

Anonymous

I watch Grey's Anatomy

Anonymous

and i'm not a big pussy

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz ...you just said you watch Grey's Anatomy. Making such self-contradictory statements is usually reserved for members of the United States Congress

Anonymous

lol

called2voyage

@voretaq7 My brother-in-law says Arrow's good, but I haven't checked it out yet. What's your opinion?

voretaq7

6:13 PM

I like it, and not just because of Stephen Amell & Colton Haynes (though they're certainly a perfectly cromulent reason to watch)

they do a LOT of flashback scenes to Green Arrow's time on the island, which I'm not a fan of (I prefer the flashbacks to be done as companion episodes or something so they're not chopping up the main story line)

but overall as far as comic adaptations go, this one is "Not completely ruining my childhood", which is pretty high praise from me :-)

called2voyage

Good to know.

Currently binge watching Supernatural with my wife, and occasionally watching an episode or two of Fringe by myself.

I'm about mid-to-late season six on Supernatural.

Just starting out on Fringe

voretaq7

Oh and John Barrowman is evil, which is kinda interesting to watch if you're used to seeing him as Captain Jack Harkness :)

Anonymous

0

Q: What materials are plane windows made of?

I've always wondered, what are those dual-layered (that sometimes has a little <2mm hole) windows commercial jets put next to their seats made of?

safety aircraft

called2voyage

@voretaq7 Not really up to date on New Who/Torchwood. I'm one of those guys who makes himself watch all the old stuff first.

voretaq7

I never got into fringe. It's because that dude who played Pacey on Dawson's Creek is in it (I never thought much of his acting, and I despised that show :P) I've seen a few episodes without him in it though and I liked them

called2voyage

6:16 PM

Which I really enjoy.

voretaq7

I like some of the old Dr. Who stuff better than the new. Never really a Torchwood fan. X-Files without Scully? What's the point?!

called2voyage

@voretaq7 He's not great but he's balanced out by John Noble.

voretaq7

you need someone to go "Mulder, that's not possible, it couldn't.... oh ok maybe it is possible. Shut up Mulder."

called2voyage

@voretaq7 Oh, I need to get back to watching X-Files. Never did finish.

Anonymous

@voretaq7 how can i propose new tags and descriptions for them?

called2voyage

6:18 PM

I have trouble catching up on X-Files because I can't watch it when my wife is around--even if she's sleeping.

She has weird dreams.

voretaq7

also I think I just had my first shaking my head slowly and backing away moment on this site:

5

Q: Is it legal to take off with an iced windscreen?

Looking at this video on Youtube, I'm wondering if it is actually legal to take off with a windscreen iced like that? For VFR this is a no go, but what about IFR and under what conditions?

regulation ifr ice

called2voyage

lol

voretaq7

that image. just no. How hard is it to spray some freakin' TKS fluid on the windscreen?

called2voyage

And that question made the hot network questions list too.

For good reason, you don't have to look twice to think that sounds bad.

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz for new tags, just use 'em. Tags are created upon use. For new Wikis you can edit them and they go in a queue for peer review (a/k/a free rep :-)

Anonymous

6:21 PM

@voretaq7 i don't have enough rep

voretaq7

@called2voyage I guess I shouldn't be surprised - I mean I see people drive their cars like that ALL THE TIME around here

@PatoSáinz well you'll need to earn more rep then! CRACKS WHIP

called2voyage

@voretaq7 Not guilty of driving with ice, but definitely guilty of driving with a fogged window.

That's because my a/c is broken though.

Anonymous

@voretaq7 or i could just be appointed mod

called2voyage

@PatoSáinz You could self-nominate if you feel you're qualified.

Anonymous

@voretaq7 is there a way to list all tags?

called2voyage

6:24 PM

aviation.stackexchange.com/tags

And it is searchable

Anonymous

nevermind i just found it (top bar)

Anonymous

@called2voyage thanks lol

Anonymous

6:35 PM

Anonymous

nevermind

voretaq7

7:12 PM

Wow, a European-centric answer -- needs moar upboats

Bret Copeland

@PatoSáinz I rejected your wiki edits on Boeing and Airbus.... and I'll talk to you about why in a second. I accidentally rejected your edit on avionics, which I think was valid. Totally sorry about that. Please feel free to resubmit and I, or someone else will approve it.

> Avionics is applied electronics to aviation. Radars, radios, instruments, dashboards, they all belong to this category.

I rejected the other two because they weren't particularly helpful, and would have needed to be quantified a lot better. Calling Airbus biggest, and Boeing the second biggest aircraft manufacturers is misleading at best.

If you are going to call something the biggest, you need to name the comparison criteria (number of airplanes produced, amount of revenue, number of employees, revenue from airplane production vs. other sources, etc). Boeing is actually a bigger aerospace company by revenue, even if Airbus has more commercial airline deliveries.

Anonymous

@BretCopeland I was talking about market share, but you've got a fair point

Danny Beckett

@All, Please see meta.aviation.stackexchange.com/a/152/97

egid

@DannyBeckett check

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz I think Cessna may still win the market share battle -- Isn't the 172 "the world's most produced airframe" or sommat? :)

egid

7:23 PM

@voretaq7 what about the RV series of kits? :)

Danny Beckett

@egid I answered (upvoted you too, thanks)

egid

those are probably the most-produced airframe, technically.

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett ok

Anonymous

@voretaq7 true

voretaq7

@egid hmm.... idunno if there are more of those flying around than various 172s. Might be a close contest :)

Anonymous

7:24 PM

i just noticed one thing

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Meh, don't let it get to ya. I personally don't see any problems with your questions so far. (The parachute one I'll grant you is a bit odd, but I've had people ask stranger questions)

Anonymous

You cannot fly a Magenetic Ressonance medical machine in a plane, you are only limited to do it via freight

Danny Beckett

I missed something I meant to put in there actually...

Anonymous

:o

egid

@DannyBeckett I understand why you want to respond but it might be good to give it a day or two before you do so ;)

you also might want to edit out your f bomb

Danny Beckett

7:26 PM

the f bomb stays

voretaq7

(I got the parachute question from someone once, it seemed particularly odd to me as they were standing next to the plane and could see that the Cherokee door opens right into the airflow)

Danny Beckett

it's a personal attack, an asterisked f bomb is nothing

I edited btw - with the link to meta.aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/143/…

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett the first rule of confrontations is do not engage, and if in case you do (you already did), keep a cool head

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett the community addressed the question, no reason to continue a flame war.

Danny Beckett

@BretCopeland Sure, but it is a personal attack

re-read the words he chose to use

Bret Copeland

7:27 PM

@DannyBeckett sort of, but just let it go.

Danny Beckett

I am doing... don't worry ;)

Bret Copeland

It's gotten nothing but down votes.

Danny Beckett

true

Bret Copeland

Obviously the community is on your side.

Danny Beckett

yesterday, by Danny Beckett

apparently I've asked too many ridiculous questions

not the first personal attack either, from the same guy I believe

Bret Copeland

7:29 PM

If you wanted to write a response that simply clarified why you think those questions are relevant, I think that would be helpful. We just don't want meta turning into a personal back and forth.

Danny Beckett

the whole question needs to be killed tbh

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett i don't think so, it serves as a precendent

egid

i will reiterate that i think it's a reasonable question

Danny Beckett

ok

egid

i don't like how it was written, but it is a reasonable question.

Danny Beckett

7:31 PM

^ this

egid

i think that the way it was phrased edges into inappropriate, in fact

Bret Copeland

@egid yes, I agree with that exactly.

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett I'm not thrilled with the guy making what is, yes, effectively a personal attack - but I think we need the precedent-setting question

Danny Beckett

it definitely does

as I say, purely through his choice of words

egid

you should edit his question to remove the personal attacks ;)

Danny Beckett

7:31 PM

lmfao

I'm gonna

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett +1

voretaq7

and honestly I think it helps that the question was put forth in a pretty crass/elitist manner -- it makes that side of the argument look that much worse :)

egid

but only without changing the meaning of it

Danny Beckett

I'll be nice - looking forward to the REJECT

give me a minute

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett if you manage to not change the meaning it'll be alright

egid

7:32 PM

@voretaq7 yeah that is a pretty good point really

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz that's what I'm gonna do

egid

in a way

his question does sort of highlight the type of questions we should downvote

so maybe you shouldn't revise it

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 I missed that the first time. That's not a bad point

@egid yeah ok sure. Makes sense!

egid

alternately just keep upvoting my answer :D

Danny Beckett

deleting my f bomb too :p

voretaq7

7:33 PM

@egid rep whore :)

egid

bah it's meta i don't get rep

voretaq7

@egid go answer the CG question :P

Anonymous

@egid who cares about meta

Danny Beckett

oh @BretCopeland deleted it

Anonymous

there's no rep

Anonymous

7:34 PM

no rep = no fun

Anonymous

;_;

egid

@voretaq7 i upvoted it :P

Anonymous

lol

egid

i gotta get my server running again, maybe later

also yankeekilo got a good answer down already

Danny Beckett

I don't think it was an inappropriate answer was it @BretCopeland? I was just about to edit out the "fucking", but other than that...?

Anonymous

7:35 PM

hmm, checking the site's beta assesment... we are improving

egid

@DannyBeckett I think honestly giving it a little time doesn't hurt

f bomb aside

Anonymous

q/a ratio is 1.8 now

egid

99% answered ahaha

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz I don't think we're really improving

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Honestly I think it's better not to reply when the post is a personal attack - it looks better for you when other people step in and defend you, whereas if you defend yourself it looks like you're just spoiling for a fight :)

2

Danny Beckett

7:36 PM

the answer ratio might've gone up, but the questions/day is still dropping @PatoSáinz

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett @PatoSáinz I think the stats are starting to reflect the real level of participation (as the natural spike of questions when the site opened starts to taper off & average out)

Danny Beckett

= we need more users :)

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett basically, yes :)

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett I deleted it because your answer was primarily concerning the personal attack, and as I said, there's just no need for that. The community has spoken on the matter already, and they sided with you. No reason to add to the fire.

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 yeah that's a fair comment too

voretaq7

7:38 PM

the two numbers I'm personally least happy with are Q/day & Visits/day - which both generally scale log-linearly with users :)

Danny Beckett

@BretCopeland ok Bret thanks for taking the time to explain :)

voretaq7

aaaand already I'm getting a reputation around here

2

Danny Beckett

ha, nice!

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 are you going to accept your moderator nomination?

voretaq7

I think I'm just gonna go sit quietly on the ramp and wave at the tower until they give me light signals <cue "sad Hulk walking away" music>

@BretCopeland probably, I have to drop in on Meta - I just finished skimming the main site for things worth upvoting :)

which, by the by, we should all try to do - especially in Beta. Scan through stuff with new answers and see if they're worth upvoting.

Bret Copeland

7:41 PM

Yeah, just don't cast 40 votes in one minute.

Danny Beckett

lmao

voretaq7

dual purpose of encouraging new people to participate when they see they're getting upvotes, and improving the user-rep stats on Area51 :)

Danny Beckett

or 39

voretaq7

@BretCopeland The algorithm would never declare ME a vote-seller.... it's just not quite sure I'm a human being half the time

(stupid bot detection empathy tests!)

Bret Copeland

haha

voretaq7

7:43 PM

"You see a turtle, on it's back, baking in the sun on the hot tarmac..."
"I'd call the Port Authority Turtle Specialists to pick it up and drive it across the airport. That's what we're supposed to do, right?" :)

egid

@BretCopeland how often do the Area51 stats update?

Bret Copeland

@egid I'm not sure. I could ask someone if you want.

or you could ask it on meta.stackoverflow

Anonymous

@BretCopeland didn't SE get its own meta?

egid

area51 probably has its own meta ;)

Bret Copeland

@egid meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/67964/…

egid