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12:00 AM
I basically manipulate the controls until things look and feel right, and 90-95% of the time it's beautiful. (The other 5-10% end with either a thunk or a go-around).
 
@voretaq7 get a float rating and you'll have a better vocabulary for explaining it ;)
and probably a more consistent technique for doing it
 
@egid "I basically point the nose at the water until we're wet, then we swim in the direction of the bubbles..." :-P
I'd like to do a seaplane rating one day, but glider is higher on my personal priority list
 
i'm a big fan of the jacobsen flare for land planes actually
actually, adding avmentor to the feed
his blog kicks ass
 
egid has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
egid has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
blerg
 
12:06 AM
@egid I've read about the Jacobsen flare a few times - that's probably about the best procedural description for what I do
 
the key is the pitch angle you flare to, and when
ok i am pretty sure that feed should work
 
posted on November 20, 2013 by John Ewing

One of the challenges of professional instructing is keeping up with all the changes that occur to regulations, practical test standards, airworthiness issues and so on. An instrument student recently installed a Garmin GTN650 GPS in his aircraft and decided to switch from ForeFlight to Garmin Pilot on his iPad, adding to the growing number of electronic flight bag apps (EFBs) I needed to be

posted on December 03, 2013 by John Ewing

Back in 2009, prior to the release of the first iPad, I was using my iPhone as an electronic flight bag (EFB), albeit in a limited way. It was an exciting time and because everyone knew the iPhone's screen was just too small to function as an EFB, we suspected it was just a matter of time before Apple would release a tablet. The original iPad was released to great excitement, but for GA pi

posted on December 09, 2013 by John Ewing

The best insights into the weather are often the conditions you see out your windshield with your very own eyes. Fast-changing weather conditions make pilot reports (PIREPs) critical for safety of flight, but this system relies on pilots to take the time to accurately report the weather they are seeing, for those PIREPs to be disseminated in a timely manner, and for PIREPs to be readily acce

posted on December 22, 2013 by John Ewing

It's been a while since sleep has been a topic of discussion for pilots and air traffic controllers, but a recent FAA proposal to add sleep apnea screening to the medical certification process has renewed the debate. This time around sleep is being viewed in a way that can get up close and personal with a pilot's or controller's health and lifestyle choices. AOPA has reacted negatively (whi

posted on January 02, 2014 by John Ewing

It's been six years since I first reported on G1000 checklists displayed on the Multi-function Display (MFD) and while my initial reaction to the cumbersome user interface was less than enthusiastic - yet another version of BigKnob/LittleKnob purgatory - I began to recognize their potential usefulness. I started coming around while using the G1000 Perspective in the Cirrus and have bec

 
yikes. okay. there.
 
@egid mainly the when in my experience - the angle is pretty much set in the Cherokee, it's hard to fuck up and land flat unless you're asleep, and I've got the dinky little stabilator so you're not gonna bang the tail :P
 
i explained the jacobsen flare to a ten year old
and his landings were probably 6/10
on his first intro lesson
it was amazing
maybe he was 12. i forget.
 
12:09 AM
oddly I find I can't land on calm-wind days - like no matter what I do
 
grab the pdf on the jacobsen flare, head up with an instructor, and try it out :)
 
I think 'cuz most of my training was evenings/afternoons in summer/winter when we get funky winds :)
 
the specific cutoff points help a lot
 
<- actually happier landing in a crosswind :P
 
is there really no longer a pdf on the site? what the hell
 
12:11 AM
@egid yeah it has all the description of the technique but you have to plod through their clicky-graphics :P Welcome to "Web 2.0" -- Content wants to be inaccessible!
@egid you should ask/answer a question on landing flares - good opportunity to talk about the technique, and the question is gonna come up anyway so you might as well write it so it's a good question :-)
also: Free Reps!
 
yeah, i'll file that away
this site is horrid
 
@egid yeah, looking at the video & quick-scanning the PDF that's probably about the closest thing to the technique that I've wound up using :-)
uh oh here come the holy wars!
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Q: Pros and cons of high-wing vs. low-wing design

maimouWhat are the advantages and disadvantages of a high-wing vs. low-wing aircraft design? When might one prefer one to the other? Is the answer the same for large and small aircraft?

 
anyone happen to know an airport likely to have a very long weather output?
trying to fix a bug where the max 500 chars limit is breached (MIA was hitting this, but now isn't)
 
@voretaq7 aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/701/… WEASEL WORDS INITIATED
 
12:47 AM
!!weather ywg
 
@DannyBeckett YWG/CYWG: Winnipeg / James Armstrong Richardson International Airport • Observed: 48 mins ago • Wind: 300°/WNW @ 8kts • Visibility: 15.0mi/24.14km • Sky (AGL): Broken clouds @ 2,500ft • Temperature: -22.0°C/-8°F • Dewpoint: -26.0°C/-15°F • Pressure: 30.21" Hg/1,023mb • Conditions: MVFR
 
brrrrrrrrrrr!
there's a 2nd JFK airport; didn't know that
!!weather kasx
 
@DannyBeckett ASX/KASX: John F Kennedy Memorial Airport • Observed: 59 mins ago • Wind: 250°/WSW @ 5kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Sky (AGL): Clear • Temperature: -23.3°C/-10°F • Dewpoint: -27.8°C/-18°F • Pressure: 30.14" Hg/1,020mb • Conditions: VFR
 
and people laughed at the weather modification question. aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/642/…
Russia has been doing weather modification research for decades
 
1:26 AM
We've been researching it forever too. It dunt work, but that's never been a reason not to throw research dollars at something! :-)
@egid and NO WEASELS! ONLY BADGERS!
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett am i famous yet?
 
Anonymous
also, now i can create tags! :D
 
I thought everyone could in beta
 
Anonymous
nope
 
odd, I could from day 1
maybe because of a high network rep
 
1:57 AM
@Danny Everyone can in private beta. (& the bar is really low in public if you look at /privileges)
 
ah I see that explains it
(I don't really pay much attention to that page)
 
Much of the privileges are access to janitorial supplies mod tools, which is useful, but only when a bunch of people have it :)
 
yeah
how do you do strikethrough? @voretaq7
 
@DannyBeckett three hyphens before and after a portion of text
 
test
thanks :)
 
thanks @BretCopeland! looks like the only one I didn't know :)
 
@DannyBeckett our internal chat rooms have a bunch of other hidden features which we abuse constantly at SE.
 
really? what like? can you say?
"other-bot"?
 
yeah, there are many useless, but fun bots
 
ha, nice!
 
2:17 AM
People mostly enjoy pic bot, who can take images and place them inside other pre-defined images.
There's also the Honey Badger
 
Anonymous
why do mods always have nice things!?
 
@BretCopeland a gun?
 
@DannyBeckett nope, just a bot that doesn't care what you say, and let's you know he doesn't care.
 
hahaha nice
 
2:19 AM
There's also the wheel of blame.
 
Anonymous
lol
 
Caprica also does that with !!afk sometimes - "nobody cares"
@BretCopeland yeah I've seen that one
 
And when someone pings us, the ping sound is the door bell sound from Star Trek: The Next Generation
 
!!youtube doorbell star trek next generation
 
Which I prefer, but I'm pretty sure we would have to license that to have it on our public chat rooms, and presumably we're not interested in doing that.
 
(not a trekkie)
ah, that
the JS room has that I think for normal users
gonna check
 
@DannyBeckett that's possible. I assume it's configurable.
I never hang out in most other rooms.
 
ah right I see @BretCopeland
I used to hang out in the JS room a lot. The last week I've been here instead
 
@DannyBeckett what site is the JS room's parent?
SO?
 

 JavaScript

Topic: Anything JavaScript, ECMAScript including Node, React, ...
yeah
(it's not Star Trek btw, but it is different)
though I've definitely heard that somewhere else
maybe Meta on the Tavern
 
Anonymous
2:25 AM
ewww JS
 
@DannyBeckett that's likely. All of our internal hidden rooms are on chat.meta.so.
 
also javascriptroom.com for an easy link
 
Pato is that a script ;P
 
lmfao @egid
 
Anonymous
google says: "did you mean awfulroom.com?"
 
2:26 AM
also the last message in the other room
in Aviation Chat Bot Testing, 53 mins ago, by Pato Sáinz
too much JS
 
I like JS. Most of what I've been writing the last few years has been node.js.
Including my current work for stack exchange.
 
yeah, i like js a lot, although i do dislike dojo
 
I like it a lot
 
but i also have no cs degree
 
ECMA 5 is awesome
 
2:27 AM
so i'm winging it
 
Anonymous
@BretCopeland does SE use perl?
 
nooooo
 
Anonymous
if it doesn't, then make use of it
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett i know
 
Anonymous
2:28 AM
but they may have toolkits
 
@PatoSáinz no thank you.
 
Anonymous
written in perl
 
Anonymous
scripts etc
 
Anonymous
2:28 AM
@BretCopeland you don't get to say no
 
NOOOOOOooooooooooooooo.........o
:D
I'd imagine any tools made would probably be C#
 
@PatoSáinz what toolkits?
 
there's a list on MSO
something like "technologies used on SO"
 
Anonymous
@BretCopeland dunno, just guessing
 
Perl syntax is kinda gross imo
 
2:30 AM
^
 
Anonymous
;_;
 
@PatoSáinz Then yeah, no. We don't use perl. Just gonna put that out there.
 
Anonymous
no, it's linguistic beauty
 
Modern JS' syntax is beautiful, done correctly
i.e. object-oriented
 
Most of our stack is C#. We've been doing some newer stuff in Node.js and Go.
 
Anonymous
2:30 AM
@DannyBeckett i'm still shocked at that OOP php code of yours
 
'elsif'? what, the extra E was too expensive?
 
@PatoSáinz why though?
PHP has had OO for a couple of years at least
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett awkward
 
Anonymous
@egid it's for the cooler boys
 
2:31 AM
@egid that's awesome (not the good kind of awesome)
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett because it is
 
Now since when did this become the Stack Overflow chatroom? :P
 
@Qantas94Heavy they keep letting programmers in here. I don't know why.
 
Anonymous
lol
 
somehow programmers are the only people left who can pay for flying, it's weird ;P
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2:35 AM
^ lol!
 
@BretCopeland: nah, I think it's more lucrative sales of spoon-ended programmer killers that have been going on recently.
 
Anonymous
@BretCopeland taking a shot at tags
 
Anonymous
!!will the TSA delay me today?
 
@PatoSáinz supersonic flight is not "any speed that is faster than the speed of sound"
 
@PatoSáinz Of course not
 
Anonymous
2:38 AM
@BretCopeland supersonic speed is
 
Anonymous
> Supersonic speed is any speed that is faster than the speed of sound. Supersonic flight is any flight whose speed is supersonic. Supersonic speed for flying objects in dry air at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius is 343.2 meters per second.
 
Anonymous
(i know it's an awful redaction, my english isn't that good for writting short, good snippets... but I think i was still correct)
 
!!will the TSA delay Pato today?
 
@DannyBeckett Frankly my dear, I don't give a dean
 
lmao!!
 
Anonymous
2:40 AM
,_,
 
@PatoSáinz well, I guess sort of. We generally consider it more complicated than that in airplanes though.
 
@DannyBeckett The TSA will do everything in their power to make you miserable. They're good at it - it would take a superb airline crew to make the experience not suck these days.
 
@BretCopeland do you mean hypersonic, etc?
 
Anonymous
@BretCopeland I also think i might have oversimplified it
 
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Q: What would you like the chat bot to do?

Danny BeckettFirstly, if you haven't already dropped by chat yet, do so! We're a very active bunch, and we don't bite! In case you didn't know, we have a room bot, that you can currently get weather data from by typing !!weather JFK Or you can get the standard METAR report with !!metar LPL What other c...

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2:43 AM
@egid yeah, and also transonic is sort of a grey area.
 
@BretCopeland @PatoSáinz It does get a little more complicated when you factor (substantially-pressure-altering) altitude into it :-)
 
well transonic is weird, but i do feel like supersonic is pretty clear cut
hypersonic and transonic are the ones with grey areas imo
 
alright, maybe I'm being too harsh then.
They just have very different engineering implications, but that's probably not important for a tag description.
 
F/A-18 approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft (see Prandtl-Glauert Singularity).]] Supersonic speed is a rate of travel of an object that exceeds the speed of sound (Mach 1). For objects traveling in dry air of a temperature of 20 °C (68 °F) at sea level, this speed is approximately 343.2 m/s, 1,125 ft/s, 768 mph, 667 knots, or 1,235 km/h. Speeds greater than five times the speed of sound (Mach 5) are often referred to as hypersonic. Flight durin...
 
@PatoSáinz METAR should probably have at least one example, and perhaps a brief explanation on how it is decoded with a link to more information.
 
Anonymous
2:48 AM
@BretCopeland do you think that should be in the excerpt? that should be in the fully-fledged body
 
@PatoSáinz body is good
@PatoSáinz also, you're supersonic description is fine. I was being hyper-sensitive.
 
Anonymous
oh ty
 
@BretCopeland @PatoSáinz I would do an example & then link to either the FAA METAR decoding PDF or the Wikipedia METAR page for the detailed decoding instructions :)
 
@PatoSáinz I also noticed this. The guy's username was Squidward too. Bizzare!
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett weirdos
 
Anonymous
2:56 AM
@voretaq7 feel free to edit it you lazy new mod
 
@PatoSáinz hey, mods are supposed to be lazy. It's the Stack Exchange way.
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Anonymous
lol
 
remember, free rep for tag wikis (up to whatever-the-heck the magic number is, I'm a terrible mod and don't know any of this stuff)
 
Anonymous
@voretaq7 just two points
 
@voretaq7 is it like editing posts, where you get rep until you have the privileges to approve them yourself?
yes, we're the worst.
 
2:59 AM
@voretaq7 How did you get that bounty-looking notice on your question?
@PatoSáinz 4 actually: 2 for the excerpt, 2 for the description
 
@DannyBeckett It's a "post notice" - there's a couple of them mods can tack on to things
@BretCopeland yeah, I think you stop getting the rep for it when your edits go through without being queued
 
@voretaq7 ah I see; nice to know; I hadn't seen that before
@voretaq7 @BretCopeland that's exactly what happens
 
ah that's pretty neat
I like seeing these little easter eggs every now and again
 
It's mostly useful when there's a question that might get lots of Yes/No answers that are crap, but could also get good, detailed answers that you want to encourage -- not that the notice does anything, most people who are gonna post a lousy answer just scan right past that looking for the answer-and-get-rep box :-/
 
3:06 AM
@voretaq7 jaded much?
 
@voretaq7 yeah that's probably very true
 
@BretCopeland I'm a sysadmin, we're trained to think the worst of the psychotic crack-deprived monkeys using the keyboard to crack open walnuts users :-)
 
anyone know if you can sort this page by number of stars?
seems a strange option not to be there... so strange I think I'm missing it
don't wanna make a fool of myself on MSO quite yet
 
@DannyBeckett I don't think so, but I know you can get it as an XML feed :-)
 
orly?
 
3:14 AM
The title does explicitly say chronological order.
 
@DannyBeckett there's a (very tiny) RSS icon right above the star wall ---->
 
@voretaq7 ahh I see it
@BretCopeland here I come
 
DILEMMA: Do I reheat Chili, or walk to the food place in the cold? (i.e. "What's worse, freezing my manparts off walking half a block, or having to wash pots & pans?")
 
order food for delivery?
walking beats washing up though
 
delivery for the win.
 
3:16 AM
...also an option, but the delivery sushi place closed 15 minutes ago so that basically leaves pizza :-/
 
hell you can have one of those Chicago-style pizzas you adore!! :D
j/k
 
they don't make that swill at the pizza places I frequent sir! :-)
 
hahaha!
here's 2 big pizzas me and my gf made
they were awesome
 
Anonymous
@DannyBeckett they are squared
 
creme fraiche instead of tomato sauce
 
Anonymous
3:18 AM
but they are squared
 
@PatoSáinz yeah because in Norway the pre-made dough comes in a tube :p
you unroll it... and it's square
they're big though
(the sight of pizza making you wanna order pizza yet?) @voretaq7
 
@DannyBeckett ...pizza from a tube? DO NOT WANT! :P
Pizza dough comes in lumps, to be tossed vigorously!
(or alternatively sliced and tossed into hot oil, then doused with sugar & cinnamon)
I did however order a pizza (@BretCopeland it's your fault this poor delivery bastard has to go out in the cold) - because no cooking, no walking in the cold, and I'll have leftovers for Friday :)
 
@voretaq7 SE keeps a freezer stocked with various things including frozen pizza. I ate one of those before I left work today. Then I walked home (a whole two blocks) where I still have leftover pizza from a few days ago in my fridge.
 
@voretaq7 haha, it's quick though!
 
We also had bourbon hot chocolate at lunch today, for some reason.
 
3:27 AM
@BretCopeland "because the Q&A dev bastards already drank the debugging tequila" <-- REASON :)
I had to deal with a wayward firewall today, and successfully corralled it into behaving, so at some point this week we'll go to the mexican place for lunch & have tequila shots or something to celebrate successful debugging.
 
@voretaq7 I actually can't think of anyone in the office who stocks tequila. Several stock whiskey, or derived liquors like bourbon or scotch.
 
@BretCopeland my refrigerator is sad. I've got some orange juice, my leftover chili, some leftover soup, and in the freezer is broccoli and bacon.
 
@voretaq7 I decided at some point I can't do shots.
 
@BretCopeland Traditionally the whisky or close relative is for celebration, and the debugging tequila (something Cuervo-esque, with a worm in it) is kept for show
 
Or, perhaps I should say, at some point I observed I can't do shots.
 
3:31 AM
I have maybe 2 glasses of Nadurra left in my cabinet, then it's time to replace the standard drinking scotch again (probably gonna buy Oban this time, haven't had that in a while)
 
@BretCopeland are you based in the SE office?
 
@voretaq7 mine is equally, or more, barren.
 
masterofmalt.com/whiskies/the-antiquary-12-year-old-whisky also comes highly recommended to me as "good, drinkable, inexpensive blends"
 
@DannyBeckett yeah
 
but they don't carry it by me so I'mma have to order it, and effort :-P
 
3:32 AM
I wondered what you meant there for a second "they don't carry it by me"... an Americanism
literally had an image in my head of someone carrying it in their arms past you, like "MWAHAHAH", no whiskey for you!
(we say "they don't stock it by me")
then again, you'd probably call it an Americanizm... with a ZED
;)
 
@DannyBeckett we say that too
 
ah ok. we don't say "carry" though
 
and anyone carrying drinkable liquor by me must pay a tithe. Deliver 1/10th of the liquor unto me! (Unless it's the good stuff, then leave the bottle and keep going.)
 
@DannyBeckett this is my office: maps.google.com/…
(with the former occupant in the picture)
 
that's awesome, you guys setup indoor Street View :)
 
3:36 AM
@BretCopeland (1) INSUFFICIENT KITTENS. (2) Do you use a standing desk? I have a love/hate relationship with them...
 
@voretaq7 the desk goes up and down. I keep it mostly in the sitting position, but if I get restless it's nice to be able to stand and work.
 
there's a UFO on your floor google.com/maps/…
@voretaq7 they literally have no chairs in the Swedish office of a company I worked for in Norway
also, there was a company-wide ban on *nix
but they were allowed Macs
but had to develop Windows software
so had shiny Macs that they'd stand at all day, working in a Windows VM
none of which makes much sense
 
There are also evil unicorns lurking maps.google.com/…
And unicorns working maps.google.com/…
And unicorns relaxing maps.google.com/…
 
and life-size Stack Exchange logos google.com/maps/…
 
@DannyBeckett his name is Bubbles.
 
3:40 AM
lol!
 
It was created for NY Comic Con one year.
 
@DannyBeckett not sure what you mean by random.
 
haha
who lives here? google.com/maps/…
they look cool, whoever it is
 
3:44 AM
It had to be a sysadmin
 
basically our in-office IT guy.
 
"phone don't need no stinkin' desk!" google.com/maps/…
 
@DannyBeckett If you swing the camera around and look out the window from that position, you can see my apartment building.
 
@BretCopeland that's basically how I feel about them - I usually prefer to sit when I work.
@DannyBeckett You couldn't tell by the tool cart? I'll tell Bart to put up a gun rack...
 
@voretaq7 I just keep the two presets. It has the option to have a third preset, but I have yet to discover a use for such a feature.
 
3:49 AM
@voretaq7 that's why it had to be a sysadmin
and one that likes to solder motherboards too
booyah!
 
@DannyBeckett Phone don't DESERVE no stinkin' desk. And if it rings it's getting kicked!
also: I has pizza
 
buon apetito!
 
with pepperoni, and anchovies, and bacon, and mushrooms, and peppers
 
I was gonna say "all the woman must be disabled"... but then I thought, there probably aren't any google.com/maps/…
@voretaq7 nice
 
Our office director occasionally gets a phone call asking to speak to one of our developers. She tells them "they don't have phones" and when they ask why, she says "so they don't have to talk to you."
She also got one that went like this...
Some guy: Can I talk to Matt Sherman?
 
3:51 AM
@BretCopeland that's basically how I am. I have a phone. It can ONLY be reached by dialing my extension. You cannot dial my extension from the main menu.
 
Amanda: Our developers don't have phones.
Guy: Okay, I'll call back later.
[hang up]
 
@BretCopeland "They still won't have phones. We deprive them of the simple cruelties of life."
 
@voretaq7 have you ever been to the SE office?
 
what's the thing on the right do? @BretCopeland google.com/maps/…
 
@BretCopeland no actually - the next time I need to go to our datacenter (which is at 100 William) I've gotta let the crew know so I can stop by and bother you all / make you completely unproductive
 
3:53 AM
@voretaq7 100 William? Seriously? You know our office is 110 William, right?
 
Because that's what I do - I make people unproductive:
in The Comms Room, 4 hours ago, by Mark Henderson
@voretaq7 The only thing NSFW about that site is the fact that I'm laughing so hard I might shit myself
 
@DannyBeckett I have no idea. I try to avoid that corner.
 
ah ok
 
@BretCopeland yeah, you guys moved to a building where literally I can probably take y'all out with a sniper rifle from the window in the datacenter hallway
 
@voretaq7 come for lunch sometime!
 
3:55 AM
(but the counter-sniper team at the Federal Reserve Bank would probably take me out in the process)
 
just let me know the day before, and we'd love to have you.
@voretaq7 haha, those guys are intense.
 
did you get Cadbury's in the US before Kraft bought them? google.com/maps/…
 
@BretCopeland yeah, and they lock up all the good parking :P
 
@DannyBeckett that corner is the "operations" area. Where our VP of Operations sits. Also the desk to the left is Joel Spolsky's, in case you were wondering.
 
that explains it ;)
looks like someone important would sit there
 
3:58 AM
@BretCopeland Does Jeff still have an honorary desk? Since he still has Honorary Modlike Powers :)
 
though the desks are tiny
 
@DannyBeckett smaller desks are better
my desk is HUGE and its a disaster. If it were smaller I'd have to properly organize
 
my desk is a sofa
 
@voretaq7 nope. At least not that I'm aware of. We're kind of running out of empty desks.
 
that's not what I meant
my chair is a sofa, and my desk is a laptop table
 
3:59 AM
@BretCopeland Milk crate with an ethernet drop and a phone, and a little nameplate. :-)
 
@DannyBeckett Joel almost never sits there. He's only in the office 2-3 days a week, and spends most of his time in the coffee bar while he is there.
 

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