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5:01 PM
@goodguy5 through the wall or one of the electric wall mounts that don't drill through?
 
through the wall
 
5:14 PM
My home warranty company sent a repair guy out. He took one look at it and said "yea. we're going to have to replace the whole thing. They don't make any of those parts anymore."
 
@goodguy5 And it's a nonstandard size? Shouldn't be too much trouble to put something in and create a seal around it.
 
I don't know if it's a nonstandard size or not. I don't remember the dims and I don't care to measure them myself.

But through-wall units are a rare breed nowadays
I think it's just an issue of finding a supplier and communicating it between the contractor and the warranty company
I've been reading this in the highlight bar all morning.....

Would it be whole cookies, or cookie dough, or some sort of cookie mist - crumbs, maybe?
Even reading the thing you were responding to doesn't really address the question
hrm..... my work laptop trackpad might have just died
and now it works again...
 
Is this a read the book to me type question? Or just a "Hey, i'm wondering if something like this is out there, can someone do all the work to find it if it is?"
 
it's a "the rules should say this to be in keeping with themselves, but it is worded this way instead. Is that a deliberate design decision or sloppiness?"
 
@goodguy5 Hm. THat's not at all the impression I got. It's like asking This class gets a feature. Do any other creatures get that feature?
Asking if it's a deliberate design decision is definitely off=topic as designer intent, though (if it's what you're saying.)
 
5:24 PM
@goodguy5 It's related to the rage beyond death/spare the dying question.
 
It's directly after them answering that other question.
yep
Where they removed this part of their answer:

However, the section on "Stabalizing a Creature" states:

The best way to save a creature with 0 Hit Points is to heal it. If healing is unavailable, the creature can at least be stabilized so that it isn’t killed by a failed death saving throw. You can use your action to administer first aid to an unconscious creature and attempt to stabilize it, which requires a successful DC 10 Wisdom (Medicine) check. A stable creature doesn’t make Death Saving Throws, even though it has 0 Hit Points, but it does remain Unconscious. The creature stops being
 
My question is, the barbarian is not unconscious, but are they still technically dead?
 
no
"However, if you would die due to failing death saving throws, you don’t die until your rage ends, and you die then only if you still have 0 hit points.

"
 
@JohnP The feature is called Rage Beyond Death :D
 
Yes. Beyond. As in past. Past the point of death.
 
5:30 PM
It seems an oversight to me. If I was running anything short of an AL game, I'd ignore it. Even in an AL game, I'd likely ignore it and report it to whatever body exists for such things.
 
@goodguy5 Or it was the intent that while you get this feature to keep on keepin' on, you can't stabilize. You already get the benefit of continuing on but still making death saves. And you've still got your Relentless Rage as well that staves off the death saving throw start.
 
Likely because there is no "unstable" feature.

There is stable or unconscious. and kind of dying, but dying is really just a descriptor
 
So first, you need to have failed the Relentless Rage saving throw, then this kicks in. Adding on stabilization makes the barbarian pretty darn powerful.
 
I think you're kidding, but I'm not sure.

I don't think that's the intent.
And stabilization doesn't vastly increase the power of the barbarian. given that you don't die until after rage and it's free to rez you.
 
@goodguy5 I'm not. By forestalling death with Relentless, and then further forestalling with Rage Beyond Death, and then adding on no longer needing tomake death saving throws outside of damage, you are prolonging the life of the barb even further.
 
5:35 PM
yea, but it's highly hypothetical
the text highly implies (perhaps even stating) that it is in every other way normal to 0 hit points, except you are not unconscious
"You must still make death saving throws"

which then refers you to the "regular" death saving throws mechanics.

except, if you die-die from saving throws, it is forstalled until after your rage ends
MY question is can you be stabilized after you fail your third saving throw?
I'd rule no; healing or bust
 
@goodguy5 You definitely can't be stabilized after you fail your third saving throw. You ded.
You need a life restoring spell (revivify, etc.).
 
unless you're raging beyond death
but spare the dying specifically says "You touch a living creature with 0 hp ..... becomes stable"
 
@goodguy5 ah, good catch. Yeah, as long as you are still raging, someone can heal you. But if you're at 0HP and your rage ends, you ded.
 
If I ever have a 14th level zealot barb at the table, I'll make sure the table knows that Spare the Dying doesn't help after they pseudo-die
 
Derail: dorian's aftermath in the bahamas. This is not good.
 
5:45 PM
<refutes climate change in a manner mocking old white politicians>
 
It was good(?) that there haven't been huge hurricanes yet, but also seems that the season itself may have changed.
 
While hurricanes are bad news, I'll get you a link to an amazing photo I saw posted today. check this out
 
oh, nifty. it's like a big cloud bowl
 
Not sure how to get at the original Twitter link, but it's @GBlack22wx
@goodguy5 If you look at the lower left of the photo, that is an aircraft engine. That photo was from the Hurricane Hunters ... flying in that storm!
 
open image.
right click > google search image.
 
5:49 PM
whoa, further down we have video
 
@KorvinStarmast My divination wizard has been using a low portent die paired with levitate :)
 
@NautArch rude
 
@NautArch Good tactics! :)
 
On the bright side, as a GM you can know that the player will do that. The first time is going to suck though
 
Yeah, it's been a solid one for me :) Pairing that at early levels with sleep had been my go-to.
 
5:52 PM
"and the bbeg emerges from his slumber, and raises his enchanted axe."


levitate and he rolls a 2 on the die

"aw man"
 
DM used sleep against us last session.
 
I should really do that more often
 
levitate is more of a problem for other creatures that don't have ranged options. Most PCs do.
it's a ton of fun. Feels very Jedi.
I haven't broken out Blindness yet and it's feeling kind of a waste. But i've been rolling poorly for initiative and monsters are usually just after my turn.
so I don't want Save, then re-save before my party mates can do something.
 
That's a great opportunity for you as a GM to intentionally throw a big brute into lots of combats
 
@NautArch If we had a caster with levitate in ToA, Bludfont and Hal could have taken that Cyclops. but we were only second level ...
 
5:55 PM
@NautArch you can always ready a spell for their turn?
turn, occurs, save
 
@KorvinStarmast hehe :)
 
@NautArch In my brother's campaign, the other cleric uses blindness a lot.
 
@goodguy5 Gotta think about what the trigger would be, but yeah. I probably should have done that :)
 
when the opponent does not save, our barbarian and fighter leap in and it's like a blender ...
 
next session! Party has expended a lot of resources, but I have most of mine.
And I've got a nearby hallway full of bones for catapult
 
5:58 PM
@NautArch The trigger would be the enemy creature of your choice having their turn; or "performing an action"
preferably, your DM would allow you to just use "ending their turn" as a trigger, but worst case is using the next monster's action as a trigger works as well.
 
@goodguy5 That isn't a clear in-game trigger. We usually try and stick with doing something like that rather than metagaming in this particular ready action case.
But I'd generally know what it does and could say either "attacks" or "casts a spell".
But it also means I can't have a concentration spell going first (which I may)
 
> monster A takes their turn
> your trigger is Monster B doing literally anything because they go in initiative order after Monster A, you know that monster A has gone.
> profit
Because if you base your trigger off of monster A, it could still be their turn after the trigger.
 
For better or worse, that table has all monsters go one same initiative
what happens if you put a bounty up and there are no answers when it's over?
 
By RAW, there is no reason not to just declare one's trigger to be "anything perceptible happens"
 
I'm not sure if "What perceivable circumstance triggers" is equivalent to "anyperceivable circumstances"
 
6:10 PM
Disjunctions of perceivable circumstances are perceivable circumstances too.
 
@kviiri What if those perceivable circumstances aren't magical in nature?
 
@NautArch all monsters all monsters or blocked monsters (like all goblins on 7, all orcs on 10, etc)
as much as I like this question, is it off topic? How to describe hit point damage without talking about wounds
 
6:30 PM
@goodguy5 all monsters
 
oof
 
It's been brought to my attention that there is now a Chuck Tingle ttrpg
Published yesterday
 
@MikeQ Critted In The Butt By The Sentient Manifestation Of My DM Railroading The Plot Like He Did My Butt
 
wow
 
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Q: Main differences between 5th edition Druid and 3.5 edition Druid

Roger MungoWhat are the main differences between the Druid class in 5th edition vs the Druid class in 3.5 ?

 
6:43 PM
@HotRPGQuestions Roughly 1.5 editions.
 
@Yuuki The illustration is different too.
 
@MikeQ Well, at the kickstarter site I got a chuckle out of the last line. Also my cat sits on my keyboard a lot which is a real difficulty and I want you to know that. It's an ongoing challenge and makes it hard to type. I don't have a solution to this problem
 
@Yuuki slightly more than the differences between pathfinder and 4th edition
 
@KorvinStarmast Get a decoy keyboard.
 
@Yuuki A much kinder solution than the one I had in mind.
 
6:49 PM
Monk Way of the Long Death - Would the time between being reduced to zero hit points and the expenditure of the ki point to go back to 1 hp qualify as being conscious, zero hp and unstable?
 
what
ah
> Mastery of Death
Beginning at 11th level, you use your familiarity with death to escape its grasp. When you are reduced to 0 hit points, you can expend 1 ki point (no action required) to have 1 hit point instead.
 
@goodguy5 Yeah, i think it's okay given the constraints they've asked for. But i'm also not sure how it isn't opinion-based. THere isn't really a gauge, but i'm not sure it needs one, either.
@goodguy5 @JohnP I saw that, but wasn't sure it was because once you're at 1HP, you're no longer at 0, and until you've done that, you're at the normal conditions.
 
@NautArch It would depend on how long the interval is between the zero and the 1.
 
@JohnP I think you need to explicitly talk about experiences you've used that technique with in describing wounds.
 
@NautArch honestly, it just feels like something that should be discussed here
 
6:58 PM
@goodguy5 But you're not conscious during this. THe expenditure of 1 ki is a metagame moment to bring you back. But before then, you're at the normal 0HP/unconscious/unstable.
 
yes
 
@goodguy5 you're not wrong :) But not sure it's worthy of clothing. But that's why I Just asked @JohnP to support his answer.
 
@NautArch I deleted that answer. That'a already what I did the few times I was a dm, and it's already what he does. Not sure what else he would be looking for other than more ways to describe it.
 
@JohnP it's a weird question, but still a good thing to talk about.
just not sure (as @goodguy5 says) that it's a good question. for the stack.
 
I try to only narrate damage for bad guys.
which, admittedly is a bit of a cop out for this issue
 
7:03 PM
@NautArch I undeleted it, and supported it as much as I could. Still not sure what they are looking for other than "how many ways can I describe a bruise?"
 
7:19 PM
@JohnP i think it's as good as it can be
 
@NautArch I just cleaned it up a bit for readability. I agree, there's only so many ways to describe a fight.
 
7:43 PM
@KorvinStarmast Weirdly, we use bloodied, but I don't think anyone at my table played 4e...
 
@NautArch It may also have been a status in 3.x, but my brain isn't summoning up anything solid to chew on.
 
8:09 PM
@KorvinStarmast I don't recall "bloodied" being a mechanical thing in 3e
 
"Fighting Monsters" by Kevin Petker is a story-telling and drawing game about community, loss, and rebuilding.
 
@Carcer OK, maybe I remembered that wrongly and as I played very little 3.5 very little stayed with me.
 
> ┌─────┬─────┐
│ ╿ │ ╿╭╂ │
├─────┼─────┤
│ ╿ ╿ │ ╄ │
└─────┴─────┘
Hmm... that's off somewhat.
Probably because preformatted removes repeated spaces.
 
I don't know what that signifies.
 
@Yuuki I'm intrigued lol
 
8:20 PM
It should look like that.
tl;dr it has to do with a comedy webcomic that tried to take a turn at drama/tragedy (via one of the characters having a miscarriage) and wasn't well-received because it was pretty heavy-handed about it
Anyways, it's a bad thing and I really should stop making references to it.
 
8:51 PM
Gahh I'd managed to evade Loss for so long
 
9:32 PM
I don't suppose anyone wants to check my Question on StackOverflow? It's RPG-related? :)
I'm looking for tips on writing a good question, as much as answers :)
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Q: How do I convert my Table into a Normalised structure?

Black SpikeFor my Game App, I have a table of Data (one of many). It currently has 40+ columns, one for each Profession (fighter, rogue, wizard etc), and skill_name. Each row (40+) contains the skill name, and a String representing the Cost of that skill for each profession. To normalise this data, I shou...

 
The (RPG) system is Rolemaster, right?
 
@Someone_Evil indeed so
 
yay me, my memory works (at least a little bit)
 
> Q: Your goal is to anger an entire fandom. How do you do it?
> A: Say you dislike David Tennant. Works for multiple fandoms.
 
@Someone_Evil My java/android code is coming together, but the Data Tables I have are not in "best practice" (normalisation) format ...
 
9:40 PM
@Yuuki Make a film based on what ever they are a fan of. Preferably without seeing the source material (as is tradition).
 
So, off the top of my head, I can think of Doctor Who, Harry Potter, and Good Omens. IIRC, he was also a really good Hamlet.
Oh, there's also Jessica Jones for MCU.
Huh, David Tennant's been in a lot of things and he's been fantastic in... all of them?
Oh, the new DuckTales as well.
 
@Yuuki I was going to say "David who?" ... but realised the answer would be: "Yes, that's the one!"
 
 
@BESW haha
It's an older Meme, sir, but it checks out
 
(I have not enjoyed Tennant in everything he's done. I think he doesn't have good control without a really firm director and he's got some REALLY bad directors and awful scripts in his past. I think he's getting better, though.)
(For example, whenever his Hamlet got excited, he just turned on the same manic-pixie-dream-girl mode he used for the excited Doctor. That version of Hamlet made a lot of... choices... though so I can't be sure that's a problem with Tennant's inability to distinguish between characters, or his director asking for that choice.)
It's frustrating because he's got a lot of potential but his Doctor only has three modes (sad, manic, angry) and he only used one of them for Harry Potter. His more recent work is a lot more nuanced--Jessica Jones and Good Omens were solid. I'm gonna watch Broadchurch some time, partly because I think that's a turning point in his maturity and control as an actor. I even enjoyed him as Professor Honeycut in TMNT, though they definitely had him perform that as a Doctor Who reference.
 
9:58 PM
He was in TMNT?
 
But his Doctor Who is... hobbled by production and direction choices, I expect, as much as by his relative lack of control. Ten is my least favorite Doctor because he's too human and that's not Tennant's fault.
 
Ten feels strange to me when I think about the fact that he literally lived for only a couple of years. Nine had some amount of unknown time between the end of the Time War and the beginning of New Who. Eleven had that timeskip bit where two hundred years or something passed. Twelve had the same thing timeskippy bit as well, IIRC.
 
TMNT2012 started out veeery slowly as an episodic monster-of-the-week thing, but after New York got [spoilered] at the end of season two everything kicked into high gear. Season three had great character work, and seasons four and five were just awesome.
 
@BESW Oh there's an (new) animated series?
Well, new-ish.
 
@Yuuki There's even a new-er one than that!
 
10:02 PM
The last I heard of TMNT was that Michael Bay movie.
And they got rid of noses or something that resulted in the uncanny valley.
@BESW Of the new Doctors, since I haven't really watched much of old Who, I actually think Matt Smith's is my least favorite Doctor. Although it's been awhile since I've watched Tennant's run so there could be some rose-colored glasses there.
 
@Yuuki It's difficult because they've both got some great and some clunker scripts, and both don't get written and directed to their best advantage. I try to distinguish between Tennant/Smith and Ten/Eleven, because the Doctors have strengths and weaknesses independent of their actors.
 
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I really don't find him appealing and I actively avoid stuff he's in because I didn't like him as Ten so it just soured me on him completely
 
Overall I find Ten much less appealing as a character, but I think Eleven's stories were generally weaker.
(though it's notable that the generally-agreed-upon "best" story in Ten's run... doesn't have much of Ten in it.)
 
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I liked the idea of Eleven in theory a lot.
 
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But Thirteen is my current omg fave by a long shot.
 
10:10 PM
@BESW I do enjoy that the converse of that is that the agreed-upon "best" story of Twelve's run has only Twelve in it.
 
Matt Smith is amazing at being old and weary, there are actors three times his age who can't do it as well. He didn't get a lot of opportunity to showcase that talent and I think I would've preferred it if he had.
 
user15026
He had a interesting way of going from omg bounce to omg old and has seen too much and too many.
 
I liked Nine
 
Oh yes, Nine was great even despite having some really questionable stories in his single season. Eccleston absolutely nailed being inhuman without being impersonable.
 
Those inhumanly big ears helped. /s
 
10:14 PM
And I believed Rose's chemistry with him much more. Davies' strength was his character work, but it turned into a weakness when he couldn't let certain characters or character beats mature naturally.
And then Moffat... wanted everything to be fantasy fairy-tale weirdness, but also had a compulsion to explain everything, and that didn't mesh well at all.
 
> Although it's been awhile since I've watched Tennant's run so there could be some rose-colored glasses there.
 
My headcanon is that Rose got bored with the Meta-Crisis Doctor because he was too human and too Donna, and broke up with him, and in an attempt to regain his alien mystique he became the Valeyard, obsessed with stealing back the Doctor's regenerations that he felt were rightfully his.
I really enjoyed first-season Rose, she was an interestingly flawed character: selflessly compassionate to strangers, casually cruel to intimates. She didn't really grow though, and I was glad they wrapped up her story in the next season...
...then she kept coming back. See above re: Davies not being willing to let character arcs play out naturally.
@Yuuki I would have loved to see a Capaldi/Mackie team under a different showrunner, I think it would've been amazing if all the writers weren't hobbled by Moffat's grand sweeping vision.
 
10:52 PM
@BESW XD that's great
 
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@BESW I looooooved Nine.
 
10 was definitely not my favorite but I don't think it was Tennants fault per se
I actually liked 9 a lot too
11 was ok,... right up until I got sick of all the stuff happening in the show and then I watched like one episode of 12
and a couple of 13 now
 
@Ash "Lots of planets have a north!" [wild, nervous, awkward, sly, smug grin] I fell in love right then.
 
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@BESW oh my gosh yes that moment just yes. His face did so many things.
 
lol
 
10:59 PM
@Ash Urrrgh his faaaaace. Tennant just couldn't measure up.
 
@BESW Fantastic line!
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And then the raging ranting foam-flecked out-of-control desperation in "Dalek," and the weird toxic masculinity thing with Mickey that was so impossibly petty, and "Just this once, everybody lives!" (Moffat's a good writer on other peoples' shows, he just shouldn't run his own because then he never finishes anything properly), Nine packed so much complex character work into a single season, and a believable arc for the character also, just such good work from everyone involved.
 
Eccleston's run was far too short.
Also random side-note he was utterly wasted as Malekith in Thor 2.
 
@JohnClifford Agreed. I don't know what went on back-stage, but it was a great shame
 
Tennant, Smith, Capaldi and Whittaker have all been great additions to the role who brought their own unique aspects to the character, but I can't say any of them had the sheer emotional range Eccleston could do just with his eyebrows and facial expression.
 
11:17 PM
@JohnClifford I think Whittaker can do it, but she's not got a lot of opportunity yet because everybody's so worried about broadcasting the new character in broad strokes.
There's some bits in Attack the Block that are just golden let-the-face-do-the-talking moments for her and she nails it, and that was years ago, she's got a lot more experience now.
 
Honestly the best part about Whittaker's casting was seeing all the fragile men panicking about a woman playing the character.
 
And the pure love she radiated when she reunited with the TARDIS... yeah, she's got some chops that need to get put in the script more.
I think the best part about her casting is how good she is in the role.
 
I'm trying to think of a way to answer Eternallord66's settings source question in a way that isn't just "find a book that covers the setting you want to know about and read it".
 
11:32 PM
I know it's a complete tangent, but still struggling with my Data Tables.
 
@JohnClifford how dare the doctor be a woman is the dumbest thing
 
Right?
@BlackSpike MVC datatables?
 
@JohnClifford Android App (Rolemaster Character Gen). Need to convert a whole bunch of tables to different format
SQLite/LibreCalc/CSV
 
There is a possibility I could help you with that but unfortunately I'm just about to go for a shower and then sleep. :P
 
@JohnClifford :P I asked in SO : stackoverflow.com/questions/57778983/…
 
11:47 PM
I'll have a look in the morning once I've settled at work and see if you still need assistance. :)
 
Thanks!
 

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