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nitsua60

00:00

(Which strikes me as a risky ~~pastime~~ ~~pasttime~~ way to amuse oneself.)

BESW

@nitsua60 [help]

nitsua60

@BESW Hmm... a third comment just feels like I'd be spamming the poor guy. That's not my favorite past[t]ime.

BESW

On the other hand, "Sucker-Punching Metallica" would be a great name for a one-hit wonder.

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nitsua60

@BESW lolfigsl!

BESW

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here--actually, I have to go meet with a client soon.

trogdor

00:08

the only reason the characters in the show were calling the monster a Demogorgon was because they were kids who were playing a game in which one showed up

they were thinking of monsters being Demogorgon's at the time

at least as far as that, it kinda made sense

nitsua60

And primarily opinion-based wins! Congratulations, winners!

trogdor

the actuall connection to D&D was basically non-existent XD

BESW

Mmm. It's that kind of sloppy reading which gets me downvotes on scifi.se when I say Dumbledore isn't as powerful a wizard as everyone says.

nitsua60

@BESW Yeah, I mean he basically just fell on top of that Balrog.

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SevenSidedDie

@nitsua60 Charming fellow.

nitsua60

00:22

@SevenSidedDie I missed the comment--based on the reaction I wish I'd been there to see it =\

trogdor

same

well, half wish I had anyway

nitsua60

@SevenSidedDie Did you somehow dissociate him in the process?

trogdor

there is a certain allure to not seeing an acidic hostile reaction to someone simply trying to help you

nitsua60

@trogdor yes, this.

SevenSidedDie

@nitsua60 Given the comment, I just nuked the account. It was the charmingly succinct “**** YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

@trogdor Oops, sorry. :)

nitsua60

00:24

@SevenSidedDie I don't know about succinct. He could have held back on some of those U's =)

trogdor

@SevenSidedDie no big deal, like I said, I only half wish I had seen it

SevenSidedDie

@trogdor Apropos that you got to see only half of it. ;)

nitsua60

Eh, that's actually pretty anticlimactic. Note to jackasses: PUT SOME FRIGGIN' EFFORT INTO YOUR INSULTS!

trogdor

I don't think I saw any of it

unless I repressed it REALLY fast

SevenSidedDie

@nitsua60 Inorite? At least it made it clear how little they cared about their question / account here.

nitsua60

00:27

(Makes me glad I didn't go back and waste the effort on shoehorning a [help] link into there...)

trogdor

@SevenSidedDie , oh, unless you mean this was literally it XD

SevenSidedDie

@trogdor Yup. ^^

trogdor

ook then

SevenSidedDie

You got to see the part I didn't star-out.

trogdor

I was a little confused as to what you meant for a moment

SevenSidedDie

00:29

I am sometimes clear as mud. v.v

trogdor

well I am not always that perceptive sooo

Zachiel

01:15

Goodnight!

trogdor

night

nitsua60

01:30

@Shalvenay I don't think I've got it in me tonight--drained after a long afternoon on the water. Tomorrow or Saturday work?

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 Saturday will have to be during the day

nitsua60

That could work; depends on weather.

Sorry, buddy.

(I've also got one kid with a stomachache and one with a fever, so the responsible part of me realizes I should head to bed now to tank up for the inevitable mid-night commotions.)

trogdor

:(

I hope they get better soon

nitsua60

@trogdor Thanks. It may be nothing, but it will be getting up a few times to check in on them.

trogdor

01:46

seems like a good idea to me

nitsua60

01:59

TIL: Spielberg and Lucas each thought the other's of Close Encounters and Star Wars would perform better, so swapped 2.5% stakes as a "bet". Even with Speilberg's subsequent record, I've gotta wonder if that 2.5% of SW outperforms everything else! (source)

BESW

Look guys I made an inspirational image! ARE YOU NOT INSPIRED?! (Also, it's a caterpillar, but poetic license.) https://t.co/yEMcZeCNuf

Tweeted by UrsulaV on August 12, 2016 at 12:25 AM

BESW

02:12

@nitsua60 I'm really not sure what Taran saw in him, anyway.

nitsua60

@BESW Probably his performance in that wizard's duel with Mad Madam Mim.

BESW

02:50

A study conducted by NBC reveals that people like consuming their stories in order, from the beginning.

Adeptus

@BESW I'm shocked. Shocked, I say(!)

BESW

Apparently you're not the only one.

trogdor

03:11

@BESW yes, I do like this thing

XD

Joel Harmon

@BESW catching up for today, re: local hot pepper identification. Did you try asking cooking.se for help on that one?

BESW

Nah, if I'm really interested I'll go ask Ag.

(Also, Seasoned Advice and I have... history.)

Between their chat not being very vegetarian-friendly and my coming down on the less popular side of The Coffee Debate, I'm not really comfortable over there.

user15026

Coffee debate?

user15026

@BESW I don't know why this makes me so happy but it does

Joel Harmon

@nitsua60 just stumbled on your "death saving throw chance" answer, and it makes me feel bad about my DW success question/answer. I could just as easily have suggested comparing probabilities and let you work them out in your head on your own.

BESW

03:16

@Ash When Coffee hit beta, there was a lot of hurt feelings over Seasoned Advice's taking it personally.

user15026

@BESW Ah

BESW

Some very vocal folks felt it was stealing their users, implying they were incompetent to talk about coffee, etc.

Miniman

Did the same thing happen with BWS?

BESW

@Ash Ursula Vernon is very good at hitting that particular emotional chord.

user15026

That's not it at all, though. I doubt that even made a dent in things.

user15026

03:19

@BESW I see that! :D

BESW

@Miniman bws?

Miniman

BESW

Ah. I dunno, I was only active in Seasoned Advice for a short while.

Miniman

Ah, fair enough.

BESW

And I also saw the spillover into Coffee, as a beta participant there.

Adeptus

03:21

BWS (liquor retailer)

BWS is an Australian retail chain of liquor stores owned by Woolworths Limited. BWS, is an acronym for Beer, Wine, Spirits. == Founding == BWS began operations in June 2001 as a local neighbourhood bottleshop. BWS is a brand of the Woolworths Liquor Group which also includes Dan Murphy's, Cellarmasters and Pinnacle Liquor. The Freestanding Liquor Division of Woolworths was distinguished from the former Woolworths Liquor and Safeway Liquor stores (Victoria), in that it stands alone from Supermarkets. The first BWS was opened in Cabramatta, New South Wales, the site of a Woolworths owned Mac's Liquor...

BESW

I... would not be very useful as a participant in Beer, Wine & Spirits.

@Adeptus Today in Reading Too Fast: "local neighbourhood battleship."

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Okay, popping out to get lunch before the SDA counter closes. See you guys late tonight, probably.

Shalvenay

hey @JoelHarmon and @Emrakul

Adeptus

03:38

@BESW Useful if your local neighbourhood is an island. Got to protect those neighbourhood borders...

Joel Harmon

@BESW you may well be a "useful participant" by asking thoughtful newbie questions, with the intent of learning things (even if you don't think you'll ever apply them)

@Shalvenay how are you?

Shalvenay

@JoelHarmon doing alright here, as for you?

Joel Harmon

tired

I've been volunteered to help with a wedding this weekend

Shalvenay

@JoelHarmon probably will have to save any exercises for next week then I take it?

Joel Harmon

yeah, sorry

Shalvenay

03:41

no worries man

although one quick question re: that if you don't mind....were you envisioning Leoj as more of a purist mage, more of an archer/sharpshooter, or more of a melee fighter?

Joel Harmon

@Shalvenay I didn't have much in mind for fighting ability, if any. The premise of the character was "haughty elf", so I threw in some random tricks of prestidigitation as seemed appropriate for a magic-based contrast to your science

Shalvenay

@JoelHarmon nods if you want to switch out characters as well if we do the more...martially oriented version, that's cool by me

BESW

04:38

"Perseid, Aurora, and Noctilucent Clouds" would be a good name for an Enya cover band.

Adeptus

05:10

Monuments under attack by living slime. Bonus XP for using the phrase "...it doesn’t have a specific class alignment".

Fibericon

07:46

In my Star Wars/Shadowrun game, two players had to leave due to moving away, and I got permission from them to murder their characters. Got a new guy in to replace one of them. I may have gone overboard describing their last stand, because by the time I got to "the guys who killed your buddies haven't seen you yet, do you want to get the drop on them?" they were already running away.

Adeptus

21 hours ago, by RollingFeles

yesterday, by BESW

The more TPK, the better.

trogdor

the less context the better

Fibericon

Hah. It would have gone okay, I think. It was three versus three, and they had the element of surprise. It was a hit squad that had killed another party member previously, though, because the party was very disorganized at that time. I had expected them to see this as a chance for revenge. Oh well, the best laid GM plans.

Magician

08:28

Tonight's botch belongs to @BESW: In Which It’s My Fault I’m Alone.

We currently only have 2 more posts ready to go, which'll cover us for next week. Confess!! :D

Fibericon

I think my best botch was on a charisma roll, as a charisma character. I decided he started drooling on himself while talking.

Magician

We're after player (or GM) mistakes, rather than bad rolls as such. Everyone makes those...

RollingFeles

Once I roleplayed dwarf grudge. My character remembered how party fellow called him stupid during hard fight and some time later he got his revenge. I asked this fellow to bend lower in order to hear something very important that could only be whispered in ear. Well, with such convinient position my dwarf hit that fellow in the face.

Player was offended and this act spoiled all his fun with dnd for session or two. And my actions(even harmless and good overall) irritated him. He was fed up and left the game.

Fortunately, we discussed this, he let the steam out and I apologized to him. We discussed some points that irritated us in each other and continued to play together.

Typical "my character would do this" way to ruin someone's fun.

I'm not sure if this botch story would be useful at all, since internet is full of articles about this.

Fibericon

08:49

There was this one time I actually prepared a story for Exalted. I ended up using maybe half a page of the prepared material, total.

RollingFeles

@Fibericon And how many pages there were in total?

Fibericon

@RollingFeles Uh... seven.

trogdor

09:18

@Magician ah, I had meant to post another yesterday, I can get it done today

XD

well, post for review, technically "post" would mean I had already put it on the site, which is silly because overview/editing is a good thing XD

Magician

No rush :)

trogdor

I have nothing better to do than to work on it at least

I won't try to promise it will be done today, but I am definitely going to start it XD

trogdor

09:37

hmm, for some reason it keeps saying the draft is failing to save

is the title not supposed to exceed a certain length or something?

Magician

I dunno, maybe? The new post is definitely not saved, I'm not seeing it in the list.

trogdor

I haven't posted it yet,.. or can you (read are you supposed to) see it while I am working on it?

Magician

I can see saved drafts.

trogdor

mk

eimyr

maybe the title contains restricted symbols like < or / ?

trogdor

09:41

I got rid of a -

and that didn't seem to help

and I shortened the Title

Magician

It's possible wordpress itself is having a hiccup.

trogdor

certainly possible

Magician

Though I just made a test draft, and it worked fine.

trogdor

hmm

eimyr

copy the post somewhere else, like a local doc file just in case

then you can totally test it out in safety

trogdor

09:45

@eimyr yep, already thinking of doing that :)

trogdor

09:57

I am guessing I might need to re-log on

I'll try that

Matt

I've enjoyed reading these: rpgbotch.wordpress.com , I was disappointed when I realised there were only 4 so far, I look forward to seeing some more!

trogdor

hopefully a lot of people will have things they can add

welp, that seems to have fixed it

eimyr

@Matt it has only started

trogdor

yeah, it has only been up for like, a day or two?

oh, maybe a little longer than that

it says your post is from near the end of June

eimyr

10:13

@Matt but people around RPG.SE have some blogs of their own too - Magician, bankuei, SSD, mxyz, even I started one recently.

Magician

@trogdor It launched 2 days ago. The first post had been "published" when we had just started and the blog was private, then quickly un-published.

trogdor

ah, ok XD

so it has indeed only been two days

so is the format "post two things every week" ?

Magician

Yeah, Tuesdays and Fridays.

Until we run out, which'll be soon :D

trogdor

mk

@Magician hopefully not before someone else steps up to the plate

currently the one I am working on is the last one I can think of to add

Matt

@eimyr Yeah, I checked the dates and noticed it was all recent, I'll be keeping an eye out for updates

Magician

10:18

@trogdor That's the thing about the format, everyone's got only a couple of stories to share.

trogdor

@Magician that is why I figure it is important to have some more people step up with some stories

I have like, another campaign that I planned to run with just BESW as a player, but the only thing I can think I learned from that one is that just us two doesn't seem to work for RPGing

I wouldn't mind sharing it, but it doesn't seem to me like good enough , or even just "enough" period, material for a post

eimyr

A story on how to stop playing if the game is not working?

Man this is gold and everyone should read it.

trogdor

@eimyr but there were no lessons to learn or other factors than "nevermind doing this with just us two people"

eimyr

how about "not playing an RPG is fine too"?

trogdor

lol

this is true

RPG's are not everything

eimyr

10:25

I know too many people who prefer to play a crap game instead of not playing a crap game and doing something else, just because they believe it's a slippery slope and social thing will crumble as soon as the game is gone.

trogdor

in any case, I won't be trying to work on actually making that a post until I have at the very least finished the one I am working on now XD

which is actually coming more easily to me than I expected, though I did take a relatively substantial break just to putter in this chat XD

eimyr

yeah

I have to manage my enthusiasm and free time to divide it between this blog, my own and some other pieces of writing

trogdor

I have to admit being more excited than I would have thought I would be to have an opportunity to try to contribute to something like this

eimyr

Good!

trogdor

still not sure I can make this third post work, but you have at least convinced me to try it XD

later though

trogdor

10:56

ok, I think I finished it, submitting now for the reviews

eimyr

cool

trogdor

mm, I previewed it and one of the paragraphs was rather large in the blog format, so I cut it in half into two paragraphs

XD

eimyr

I wouldn't worry about this sort of stuff too much.

Paragraphs should make sense content-wise, everything else is secondary.

trogdor

this one had an easy "this is where it looks like it should be cut in half" spot

Trish

11:18

hmmm, still pondering about a good question for my clue advice I wrote for a question put on hold, then deleted...

Fibericon

Oh man, one of my players is metagaming because he thinks he knows what comes next out of character. It's going to be so much fun when he realizes how wrong he is.

Trish

heh....

well, are we cartophile here?

Fibericon

Nah, this is a plot thing. He assumes some NPC who disappeared is going to turn evil. That guy's been dead for two months in game time.

Trish

11:35

heh.... "he disappeared! clearly must have turned evil!" hmmm, how about you give him what he expects, twisted? He is still dead, but /also/ evil - he's a rotting zombie without a brain now!

Anaphory

@trogdor I honestly can't remember big game botches I participated in, with lessons learned. The things I can very vaguely think of are “Assume that you can resume a game after Summer holidays”, “Assume that more than 3 people can sort out a regular game date for an amazing pitch they all signed up to” and “Assume that when the known intrigues-and-at-table-secrets GM runs a dungeon crawl to the other side of the world, there will be dungeon crawling and not intrigues in there”.

trogdor

mm

Fibericon

@Trish Hmm... I mean, it's Star Wars. I could ghoul him. There is such a thing as a force sensitive ghoul.

Trish

@Anaphory sounds like "assume the 10 people game you started at a birthday will ever conclude" "assume that the 15 people open world (chat) game will survive chrtistmas holidays" and "assume that playing with people in 3(+) timezones via chat (CET, JST, EST) will not impact some lifes"

trogdor

@Anaphory yeah, the first two things I could think of were things I have thought over and that I know pretty well what I learned from, the third thing might take some work even if I can use it

Trish

11:44

@Fibericon sure! or that slug from... genosha? Geonora? that thing that lives in brains.

eimyr

@Fibericon Kill him. The guy is dead. Player has a "huh" moment. Then two months later turns out the dead dude is a sith returning in a force ghost form.

Fibericon

Those are both beautiful. Or, I could take a third option. The party spends so much time investigating a dude that everyone else is sure died a long time ago, people begin to suspect they killed him, and are just trying to cover for themselves.

Trish

those brain slugs though don't kill the host, but removal does (unles you freeze the body to near death...)

Anaphory

@Trish Yep.

eimyr

Science Fiction plot seed: The players spend some time travelling faster than light. When they come out of the hyperspace they realise Heat Death of the Universe has happened.

Trish

11:50

hmmm, another option: he was never a human after all! he is an ancient Assasin robot that dressed himself in the body of a deceased - and he ditched the disguise when it started to rot. Now it watches them as they investigate his abscene, and he starts to plan to take one of their skins next!

eimyr

Jul 27 at 13:12, by eimyr

OK, so I totally want to play a character that is a robot, but tries to pass for a human and is incredibly conspicuous about it. Not to mention the clunky robotic body, the robot would completely miss the point and not exhibit any humanlike features all the while informing others he does.

Anaphory

@eimyr I had to think of that, as well!

Trish

na, it is an assasin bot, it is smart enough to do that... Think about.... a very very crafty and smart Necron nightmare

just it does not leave the body parts open on his body, it sews them over his metal body.

ehh, Flayed ones.

Anaphory

Sure! @eimyr's one is much more comedic than anything.

Trish

I'm more the creepy @.@

eimyr

11:56

Just like eimyr himself... [sniff]

Anaphory

Okay! Off to Slovakia in a bit, I'll probably read you again in two weeks!

Trish

Bring back a few blades! they have still good smithes there!

BESW

ttfn

eimyr

@Trish the whole region does. Regenyei, Cervenka, Ensifer, Marek...

Trish

I own a seax made somewhere in chech or slovakia.

Magician

12:12

Poem for #WorldElephantDay The real elephant in the room, if you'll beg my pardon, is why on earth you do not keep him in your garden.

Tweeted by brian_bilston on August 12, 2016 at 11:15 AM

Ah, doesn't preserve the spacing. Still. May be relephant to @BESW.

BESW

I can support this.

nitsua60

13:02

@JoelHarmon I think you're saying "this guy gets math," in which case, thanks! That said, I'm as prone to screw up stupid mistakes as anyone else--if you check the revision history on the death save probabilities, you'll see I totally goofed the expectations times on my first pass.

On a different note, I know lots of people around here can perform those calculations. My hope is that I did a decent job explaining them, threading the needle between glossing-over and pedantic. Feedback is always welcome!

@Magician I'm two drafts into mine: "system matters", but I haven't really found its voice yet. Killing as many darlings as I'm putting out there, which makes it hard to amass any words!

Magician

So far our format seems to be quick notes, a few hundred words at most. So don't worry too much :)

eimyr

13:22

@nitsua60

nitsua60

@eimyr [tag, you're it!]

eimyr

panics

Miniman

13:44

@nitsua60 System masters? As if! pfft

nitsua60

13:58

@Miniman You're right, of course. That's why every game I run--no matter what I tell the players--is actually FURPG. I just quote the rulebooks of other systems to keep up the charade. But die rolls are all--after converting in my head--FURPG. Keeps me sharp =)

eimyr

@nitsua60 Good clarification. I understood FURPG that as "F*** You RPG" in which the GM's rulings are the way they are because "FU, that's why".

Zachiel

I'm so stupid I removed something from my laptop during one of those CCleaner / Spybot cleaning frenzies of mine and now the ol' good 4e offline character builder works no more. T_T Help!

> To whoever has children and didn't know it: we have a kindergarten area

> The self-esteem recovery group meets on thursday - please use the doors at the back.

[plays some lift music]

Miniman

@Zachiel Reinstall?

Zachiel

@Miniman reinstall windows, you mean?

Miniman

@Zachiel I meant reinstall the character builder in question, actually.

Zachiel

14:12

Already tried that, does not work.

Miniman

System Restore?

Zachiel

I was thinking about it but I fear my last restore point is quite old...

I will try that, however

Miniman

Any idea what you removed?

Zachiel

Lots of cab files from the download folder

Miniman

Huh. Odd that reinstalling doesn't work then.

Zachiel

14:13

installed the new version of Spybot and ran a complete clean and deleted quarantine using the previous one before uninstalling, as suggested

ran CCleaner once too much maybe

deleted %appdata%/skype hoping to have it run smoother

uninstalled some suspicious codecs that probably came with Icecream Screen Recorder, and the screen recorder itself

I admittedly went into a liiiiittle panic when clicking on some deviantArt links brought me to porn sites.

...and I tried to undo any recent installation that I didn't really need, and upgrade my security suite.

Miniman

@Zachiel I'm assuming you mean porn sites that aren't deviantArt?

Zachiel

@Miniman You'd be correct, yes XD

nitsua60

14:34

Okay, this might sound weird, but I'm just going to throw it out there...

I think holding someone--a child, a lover--as they fall asleep is just about the nicest thing there is in the world. You feel those waves of twitches roll down their body, and it's like you're protecting them as they pass from one world to the next. Transcendent.

(Working at home with a sick daughter right now.)

Zachiel

Ok, I'm out

No, seriously, I need to try the system restore, I'm out for real.

;)

nitsua60

@Zachiel luck

RollingFeles

@Zachiel you my try some soft that restores removed files. Recuva or such.

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