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Ramhound

12:06 AM

You know I hate when you find an article you really want to read and this happens

techproresearch.com/article/…

"Join now to get the whole story"

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic blah. Its a schnauzer so its fine ;p

Ramhound

12:21 AM

He is the weirdest little guy. He really does not like this wiggle waggle ball I got him Must be the sound it makes or something.

runs around the house trying to attack it

Journeyman Geek

12:34 AM

0

Q: How can I pin/unpin a specific kernel version/package in fedora 22?

I'm currently running fedora 21 with a btrfs filesystem. Unfortunately, I'm currently forced to stick to the oldest of my three kernel versions (3.18.7-200.fc21.x86_64) on boot since newer versions seem to have broken btrfs support. I do believe fedora clears up older kernel versions (and retai...

Annoying bit is? If I had a similar issue with my winboxen, I'd go the hell with it and just roll back to an older backup.

tereško

are all Nvidia users trolls, or have just had a bad luck lately

someone was telling me that I you have to pay 40€ more per year, if I am running an AMD card

.. or course when I asked him to show the calculation, I got no response

=/

oh, yeah , and his condition was that that amount would be what it would cost for someone playing games 1h each day

Ramhound

Since when did AMD have anything that didn't suck power like Dracula sucks blood at at a vampire blood house?

tereško

@Ramhound , so, you too think that an AMD card, playing one year every day for 1 hour, would cost extra 40€ in power bills?

Ramhound

Honestly. They costs differences are likely in the cents over an entire year

tereško

12:52 AM

I did the match

assuming you have to pay 0.15€ per kWh, you would end up paying extra 5€ .. that's assuming that you GPU pulls additional 100W from the wall

it was higher then I originally expected, but then again I compared review data of 970 and 290x

.. on related note, 780ti pull basically the same power from wall as 290x

anyway, I'm just ranting

Ramhound

oh now $5?

can't get me my McRib!

allquixotic

1:23 AM

5 Euro is not $5.

@tereško LOL. Depends more on the generation of the card than the brand. Some generations, Nvidia is way worse. Maxwell vs. GCN 1.1, Maxwell is more efficient. Who knows what'll come next; maybe GCN 2.0 will be way more efficient than Maxwell. It kinda swings back and forth. There's no constant, and definitely nothing so generalized as 40 Euro per year more for all AMD cards.

Ramhound

$5 is $5 :$ and I know there is a price conversion mCRib is still 5 euro :$

Journeyman Geek

3:14 AM

@allquixotic: I was under the impression that nvidia's power efficiency advantages are mainly in the mid range

On the low end, AMD is cheap. On the higher end nvida does have some powe hogs, and some AMD cards are mighty tempting price/power wise, even for someone whose graphics cards have all been nvidia based/

Journeyman Geek

4:08 AM

yay. Dell collected the parts that have been under my desk for weeks. I can now ~~sleep under my desk~~ stretch my legs out fully.

Journeyman Geek

4:21 AM

3

XKCD

4:52 AM

WHY DON'T YOU COME HANG OUT INSIDE MY HOUSE. WE CAN COOK BREAD AND CHAT ABOUT OUR INTERNAL SKELETONS.

Journeyman Geek

On the internet... No one knows you are a giant maneating spider ?

Bob

@TomWijsman I think I'm already using it?

mike eustace

Hello room!

Michael Frank

Hi Mike!

Bob

The ZFS module is loaded. I can access and mount the pool manually.

mike eustace

5:01 AM

Can anyone help. I'm using win 8.1 am getting bad image errors. I've run sfc / scannow . It says it found corrupt files but was unable to fix them. Any sugegstions as to the next step?

The full bad image error is "c://windows/system32/windowscodecs.dll is either not designed to run on windows or it contains an error.... error status 0xc000012f"

I get this error from trying to run Photoshop but have had similar with other software.

Journeyman Geek

@mikeeustace: 2 questions 1) got backups? 2) maybe try refreshing the install?

mike eustace

No back ups of the c: drive (but only software, no data on it - reinstalling isn't a massive pain (just pretty big)

Journeyman Geek

reinstalling would be the least painful option

mike eustace

is the windowscodecs.dll folder the same for all win 8.1 installs or is it changed depending upon software installed?

Journeyman Geek

and iirc windows 8 should have an option that leaves your personal files alone.

I have no idea (and can't check - work's all linuxy ;p)

mike eustace

5:07 AM

There seems to be refresh type thing (according to google)

Journeyman Geek

yup yup

Its basically a slightly easier way to reinstall really

Might ask for a disk

mike eustace

Which I don't have!

I've got a key though so dodgy copy + legitimate key = legitimate OS

Journeyman Geek

If it isn't oem, you can dl a legit copy off microsoft

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the annoying part is installing programs again, tracking down licence keys, etc.

Journeyman Geek

yup

(and heh, setting them up right.)

mike eustace

5:14 AM

Not OEM. I'll have a look at MS.

It is. Luckily I keep installed software to a minimu. The annoying bit, if find, is all the clicking 'next', 'I agree' etc.

Journeyman Geek

@mikeeustace: you can automate a lot of that with chocolaty or ninite.

mike eustace

Most of the software I need isn't there. Adobe suite, MS Office, IDEs

Journeyman Geek

ahh yeah.

alas

Bob

O_O

I ordered a $5.50 card reader w/ free shipping... they overnighted it to me via courier.

mike eustace

and I finished exams last week and finally installed GTA V. Have to make sure I copy the save game :)

Bob

5:17 AM

Pretty sure that would've cost several times more than the item!

mike eustace

Yep. But the card reader probably only cost them $1!

Bob

@mikeeustace it's a USB3 one

I'm gonna test it for UHS-I support now

mike eustace

Ah.

Thanks for the help @Bob

Bob

..?

Did you mean to thank @JourneymanGeek?

Journeyman Geek

;p

mike eustace

5:20 AM

I did!

Thanks @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

Possibly!

Bob

> System Boot Time: 15/02/2015, 2:12:02 PM

And now I restart.

And pray PrimoCache doesn't die.

(That was the date I installed it :P)

Bleh.

Bob

5:47 AM

I present: steaming pile of shit.

Journeyman Geek

6:25 AM

hm. Blah

@Bob: I see two steaming piles of shits.

Tom Wijsman

8:05 AM

@Bob The screenshot said something about initramfs failing to load.

Which is why you get in busybox instead of your shell.

Bob

@TomWijsman Where does it say that?

I ended up in recovery/busybox because it failed to mount the zpool automatically. I could manually mount it just fine.

Oliver Salzburg

10:09 AM

> We haven't taken the time to respond to your bug report in 6 months, so the ticket seems inactive and we're closing it now. If you think that was a mistake, please waste more of your time by posting a new issue. kthxbye

Journeyman Geek

!!baroo

ChatBot John Cavil

Septian Primadewa

anyone know name of that control ?

download and skip boxes

Oliver Salzburg

@SeptianPrimadewa Task Dialog maybe

But it could be a custom dialog as well

Septian Primadewa

that "skip" arrow button.. only task dialog have that ?

^ that "custom button" one

Oliver Salzburg

10:24 AM

@SeptianPrimadewa Are you seriously asking if a button with an arrow on it is exclusive to a certain type of dialog?

Because the answer is: no

Task Dialogs are something in Windows to allow for a unified UX, but you can implement anything however you want

Septian Primadewa

oh cool, i hope i know that arrow control name..

Psycogeek

@OliverSalzburg they always have hope that you fixed it for them, after 6 months they figure if you dont have a solution, Who Does? :-)

Oliver Salzburg

@SeptianPrimadewa It's called a "button"

That's it. This weekend, I'll implement the desktop shortcut banisher

Bob

11:07 AM

@OliverSalzburg ?

Security settings => deny all write

djsmiley2k

11:19 AM

wooo another day of crazy

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob No, I want a blacklist

With an online top ranking/wall of shame

djsmiley2k

desktop shortcut banisher?

this sounds fun.

/me still needs to look at making his wall of shame of banned bots

djsmiley2k

11:51 AM

in other news, my qemu raspi seems to be faster at building than my real pi

Oliver Salzburg

12:14 PM

@djsmiley2k Cool. Install it on the Pi then. Repeat for infinite build speed

djsmiley2k

12:26 PM

:D

djsmiley2k

2:10 PM

Don't you just love it when things literally randomly stop working?

Varaquilex

2:30 PM

Hello all. I'm having a black screen / no beep issue. Tried MANY things. I think the problem lies with motherboard or CPU but I don't have any spare parts to pinpoint the faulty component. Anyone willing to help me out (It's probably gonna be a long conversation but I can provide high res images if need be)?

I have read many questions / forums including multiple threads in tomshardware. I have read basics from hardwaresecrets. I got an avometer and tested PSU voltages, seems normal. I don't have enough money to gamble a spare part and try it out with my build. I MUST diagnose the faulty part and then I can replace it

djsmiley2k

....you're screwed :<

That Brazilian Guy

2:46 PM

I found out who's ~~crashing~~ ooopsing my kernel:

4

Q: Who's crashing my kernel?

Suddenly, a message saying "A problem in the kernel package has been detected" started appearing after I login upon boot. A new message is shown every second, incessantly (translation below). A problem was reported A problem in the kernel package has been detected I haven't updated t...

linux fedora crash kernel fedora-21

Turns out it's the frontal USB panel.

@TomWijsman Yeah, everyone on that bug report was complaining about USB

So I arrived today at work, turned out the PC, disconnected every USB cable (meaning: mouse and keyboard)

The notifications kept coming, and then I noticed the led on frontal USB panel / card reader was red and wouldn't turn off >_<

Tom Wijsman

@Bob i.imgur.com/lm8mCqi.png (Something went badly wrong in the initramfs)

So because it says that in the first half of your text, I assume that it doesn't automatically mount it because it does not get to that point.

@ThatBrazilianGuy If you wonder how I found it, I searched for the function name of the WARNING line including the 0x** offset behind it which refers roughly to the line that caused the WARNING.

That Brazilian Guy

@TomWijsman I noticed there's a link on the abrt message

> id dadaa8ca8525cf44b21c438b086cc731ac73c2cd
reason: WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 21350 at fs/block_dev.c:67 bdev_inode_switch_bdi+0x87/0x90()
time: Ter 28 Abr 2015 15:49:02 BRT
cmdline: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.3-100.fc20.x86_64 root=UUID=45f0c704-ada0-411d-95ba-50169ce0994a ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 rd.luks=0 vconsole$
package: kernel
count: 1529
Directory: /var/tmp/abrt/oops-2015-04-28-15:49:00-21380-1
Relatado: https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/reports/bthash/392cacbf6958e88053298dbce758bf6865c4db3f

And the page has a link to the BR

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy good investigation

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic ...by @TomWijsman :P

Now I just wonder where the system is was logging the warns/oopses/whatevers

because dmesg had just an acpi warning way early on

Tom Wijsman

@ThatBrazilianGuy Yeah, some distros try to provide a page. But it rarely has the useful info you need; so, bug reports still work best.

There is even oops.kernel.org that attempts to have one generic place for oopses; but yeah, the comment function there seems rarely used.

allquixotic

3:02 PM

they should have a new episode of Air Crash Investigation where, every second, the Master Warning light comes on and the plane begins to do a hard roll, then stops for a second, then does it again, et cetera, until the pilots contact the ground crew (who happens to be Taylor Swift) who researches the problem and finds that other planes have had it too, and makes them unplug a fuse in the fuse box to solve the problem

then everybody lands safely and breathes a sigh of relief

That Brazilian Guy

> (who happens to be Taylor Swift)

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy You just have to shake it off, you know, when you have kernel problems.

!!taytaytay

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

Crashers gonna crash crash crash crash crash

That Brazilian Guy

I don't think I ever heard a song by her

allquixotic

3:04 PM

Tom Wijsman's gravatar is taylor, hence the jokes

That Brazilian Guy

I assumed it was a bluish abstract shape

allquixotic

lol

djsmiley2k

yeah even in the profile page i can't tell

allquixotic

it's literally Taylor Swift, with some effects to make her look like an angel, I think

That Brazilian Guy

Like @allquixotic's avatar looks like a granny cat wearing Brown Riding Hood

djsmiley2k

3:06 PM

Why do you have such intimant knowledge of taylor switch @allquixotic ?

allquixotic

oops

djsmiley2k

Ah well least she's not wacko like what's her face.

allquixotic

now you should be able to see it clearly

@djsmiley2k TomWijsman likes her, so we have a !!taytaytay command on the bot for him (to display her as a GIF), and she's a very popular pop star in the US

I don't listen to her songs though

That Brazilian Guy

!! s/an angel/being crossed by an horizontal ghost/

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy it's literally Taylor Swift, with some effects to make her look like being crossed by an horizontal ghost, I think (source)

djsmiley2k

3:09 PM

Is there a keyboard shortcut to reply to a hilight?

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k One of SuperUser's moderators, @OliverSalzburg, developed a great extension for Firefox and Chrome that adds exactly that -- github.com/oliversalzburg/se-chat-reply-highlight

djsmiley2k

:

errrj,,,

@allquixotic ty

hmmmmm i wanted to automatically go to whoever highlighted me, but that'l do, ty.

allquixotic

you could probably request that as a feature: a hotkey to reply to the most recent message that pinged you

I have a feeling that Oliver wouldn't especially mind being given a reason to work on se-chat-reply-helper again

last commit in December

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Post a feature request on github: github.com/oliversalzburg/se-chat-reply-highlight/issues

djsmiley2k

@ThatBrazilianGuy done :)

That Brazilian Guy

3:17 PM

OK, who's the psychopath who set the AC unit to polar-bear mode in June?!

djsmiley2k

hehe

here it's stupid warm still

we don't have 'air con' we have.... coolish air

That Brazilian Guy

They could have had it fixed on February, but NOOOOOOOOO

IT is OK to have broken ACs for a year while it's 45 celsius out there.
Now the heath is over, so let's turn it to the max cold.

djsmiley2k

Ah, southern hemisphere?

:D

/me was wondering

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Last time I checked, they hadn't moved Brazil past the Equator ;p

djsmiley2k

:D

I can't remember where it is in relation to the equator :P

That Brazilian Guy

3:20 PM

(they could do that for a bit between december/march, I for one wouldn't mind the slightest)

@djsmiley2k We had broken air con for a year ;_____;

djsmiley2k

....

the air con broke in our server room...

That Brazilian Guy

...and was fixed the next day, right? right?

djsmiley2k

Hahhhhahahaha

was like a week

That Brazilian Guy

Although now that you mention, a couple months ago it broke in one of our server rooms and IIRC it took a couple weeks to be replaced.

HackToHell

Okay WTF mysql for windows is 300+ mb

That Brazilian Guy

3:22 PM

!! s/is 300+ mb//

allquixotic

djsmiley2k

@ThatBrazilianGuy the radiator on the roof has burst..

it's a bit odd... it was fine until teh guy went ot check it...

:D

i think he was annoyed that the 'big' issue downstairs was soemthing stupid like the controller not picking up button presses.

HackToHell

FF y u do dis

djsmiley2k

ALL THE RAMS

because everyone has like 10,0000000 items in their pages you MUST load

you see the report about how nytimes or something laods 66% faster if you turn off all the tracking

allquixotic

3:38 PM

@HackToHell 64-bit Firefox Developer Edition (basically Alpha) currently using 476 MB on my system

HackToHell

@allquixotic Even with bout 7 tabs pinned and another 10-20 open ?

allquixotic

@HackToHell I have only 5 tabs open :S

HackToHell

:C FF is using as much as my goddamn linux vm

Tom Wijsman

!!tay

ChatBot John Cavil

@TomWijsman That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: taytaytay, taytaytaycat

@TomWijsman That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: say, yay

Tom Wijsman

3:41 PM

Where's my wave command? :-/

!!taytaytaycat

HackToHell

!!taytaytay

ChatBot John Cavil

Tom Wijsman

Ah, it's the cat one. :D

HackToHell

It's even cached lol

allquixotic

40 mins ago, by allquixotic

!!taytaytay

HackToHell

3:44 PM

Ah the same thing is running in the same page :P

djsmiley2k

oh and uncompressing jpegs back into bitmaps and storing them too

allquixotic

@HackToHell I'm sorry for your countrymen who've died recently... so, so many... heatwave

117 F / 47 C... ridiculous hot

HackToHell

fuck global warming

So fucking hot

I am up until 1 cause it's too bloody hot to sleep

allquixotic

:(

HackToHell

It's about 37 (max) here and it's unbearable

Can't even imagine how it is for the northerners

allquixotic

3:55 PM

@HackToHell bad enough that those without electricity die from heat exposure

1,100 people

that's a significant fraction of the number of people who died in the 9/11 attacks on the US, and that event completely changed the direction of our country

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic 47C? wtfu

Where's that?

That Brazilian Guy

47? Ughhhhh

djsmiley2k

40C was bad enough near the coast

And that was just one day.

HackToHell

@allquixotic It's really really sad, there's simply no large scale air conditioned housing for all the people

yilduz

4:10 PM

...and I was annoyed at some cloud cover here. I guess I'll be happy with what I have. I hope your area finds some relief quickly.

djsmiley2k

In other news I helped a guy get to a job interview today \o/

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Canadian Luke

@HackToHell The northerners like me... We're waking up to 21 C, gets up to 32 C each day lately. We had one thunder storm, otherwise been like that for 3 weeks now. I feel like I'm dying

HackToHell

4:25 PM

@CanadianLuke That's my town in winter ....

And you are near the artic circle

Canadian Luke

4:55 PM

I'm about 1000 km (625 mi) from there, if it was in a straight line

snipe

windows wont save the theme at logoff

any ideas

Canadian Luke

What version of Windows? Is the user a guest, standard user or administrator? Are there any theme-management programs installed, or have there ever been? Have you tried System Restore? Is there enough disk space? Don't be a....

!!hv

ChatBot John Cavil

snipe

user is admin

no theme managers installed

I have enough disk space :S

its just the classic theme

the user profile I have enabled full control to SYSTEM, LOCAL SERVICE, and Administrator

including sub objects

if I exit the shell the theme sticks when loading it again its just logging off or shutting down that doesnt save it

Jet

5:11 PM

heh maybe it's Windows XP?
@snipe I had a similar issue on my XP; the shortest way was to create a new account and move into it

snipe

its not just an XP specific thing

I cannot recreate it, this is a builtin account

Jet

@snipe then provide more info; answer @CanadianLuke's questions "What version of Windows?..Have you tried System Restore? "

snipe

its XP

no I have not tried system restore

djsmiley2k

y r u still using XP :/

snipe

not answering that

Jet

5:25 PM

then this may help you:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-desktop/lost-my-normal-xp-theme/0fc866ed-6b80-4eca-bf8c-a99f05946cd2
scroll down to answer of "nass1"

Right now I'm running Windows XP from RAM, without HDD at all :) @djsmiley2k

djsmiley2k

@Jet just because you can doesn't mean you should...

!xkcd 987

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Jet

there's no HDD on this PC, that's why I do it

snipe

is this page 1 or page 2

I can save themes on other accounts just not this one

Jet

@snipe look at page 1, 5th reply by nass1.
(p.s. I just created another admin, and forgot about built-in admin)

snipe

oh ok

ill check that page and come back later

bbl

Canadian Luke

5:48 PM

!!xkcd 987

ChatBot John Cavil

The bunch of disadvantaged kids I was tutoring became too good at writing, and their essays were forcing me to confront painful existential questions, so I started trying to turn them on to drugs and crime instead.

djsmiley2k

That'll do

Ben Richards

6:43 PM

Hi

Oliver Salzburg

6:55 PM

@BenRichards Howdie

allquixotic

heya

Iszi

Hey y'all. Little help, here?

0

Q: How do I display a message on login for Windows 8/8.1?

I've configured the following settings in my local security policy: Interactive logon: Message text for users attempting to log on Interactive logon: Message title for users attempting to log on However, the system still does not display the login text. I've also tried forcing the use of CTR...

windows-8 windows-8.1 security

allquixotic

@Iszi Hmm, good question. I noticed on our "lab" testing systems (they're still on the enterprise domain/LAN, just got an exception to security policy to run Windows 8.1) they don't display the legal notice there, either, while our "production" workstations do on Win7.

I bet they just pushed the same security policy settings as Win7 and never noticed that they no longer work on Win8 :P

Iszi

I've seen it on Win2012 though. Not sure if they're getting it differently, but whatever works there should work for 8.

Everything I've found just references the two settings I've already applied.

allquixotic

Maybe you should look for a setting to disable the "lock screen" behavior -- I noticed that win2k12 doesn't really have that

Ben Richards

7:30 PM

I answered a question on here 3 years ago. The person who asked it commented on my answer a couple days ago thanking me again for a very well written and informative answer. :)

That was kinda cool.

allquixotic

nice

> Hello Sean,

Thank you for contacting Sennheiser Technical Support.

Bluetooth compatibility/functionality is not universal as there are many combinations of hardware, software, Bluetooth drivers/profiles, etc and all need to match up correctly to have full functionality. As long as the device that the Sennheiser Bluetooth headset is being connected to supports the appropriate Bluetooth version (usually 2.1 and EDR for Sennheiser products) or higher and the appropriate Bluetooth profiles (A2DP, HSP, HFP, AVRCP) there should be no connectivity issues. When connecting a Bluetooth headset to…

Ya don't say. Sounds like the same generic response as everyone gets

Ben Richards

For the majority of users, it probably covers the issue. Users will complain of things not working a lot if they aren't doing what they think they should be doing, and often what they think should happen and what they actually are supposed to do are different.

Though I do often desire an actual live person to troubleshoot with :P

I need some decent low-profile portable Bluetooth headphones. Don't have to be anything awesome. On-ear is fine. Over-the-ear is more comfortable though, but also are more bulky. Probably gonna hit up Best Buy within the next day or two.

Gonna be on a four-hour flight and don't really want to bring my wired headphones with the bum cable that I had to tape to an extension since the connector got loose.

Bluetooth is preferred because then I don't have to deal with so many wires. :)

allquixotic

7:48 PM

@BenRichards I love my Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 On-ear Wireless. Problem is, Android fucking sucks. YMMV with WP8.

head-fi.org/t/749606/sennheiser-momentum-2-0-and-wireless/…

Ben Richards

@allquixotic Is it only those? Does Android not play well with Bluetooth speakers in general? I haven't had issues on my Windows phone with Bluetooth speakers.

allquixotic

> 1. Since the results are identical across three separate models of headphones, the problem ain't the headphones.

2. Since the results are better in a less-noisy wireless environment, the problem is related to signal strength or protocol negotiation/cooperation with errant bluetooth stacks (like Bluedroid on Android 4.4 and later).

3. Since I get flawless results when I use the Windows bluetooth stack or the built-in system on chip with the Avantree Pro, the problem is not that it is impossible to get a good, clean signal; it just requires more TX power than some devices are willing to u…

@BenRichards Ever since Android 4.3, Bluetooth audio has been completely fucked on Android, across four devices I've owned, and reports of identical problems on devices I've never owned.

Ben Richards

Aha

allquixotic

Google is completely silent and refuses to acknowledge the problem, going "LA LA LA LA BATTERY LIFE BATTERY LIFE" while sticking earplugs in their ears.

Ben Richards

Well, Google.

allquixotic

7:50 PM

Yeah. Fuck them.

Ben Richards

Indubitably.

As I've stated before, Google is today what Microsoft was in the 90s.

allquixotic

If you have existing bluetooth headphones that work with whatever device you intend to listen to music with, and you don't get dropouts, odds are good that you'll be fine with the Momentum Wireless, too.

90% of the people complaining of problems are either using iPhone 6 with the latest version of iOS (ALSO plagued with bluetooth problems), or Android 4.4 or later.

Ben Richards

I tried my brother's Bluetooth headphones. Yeah they work. Also my Sony Bluetooth speaker bar thingy, and my Bluetooth receiver connected to my home theater system both work just fine.

Ok.

My brother has an iPhone 5c. Hasn't complained of these issues, though I don't think he used his headphones a lot lately.

allquixotic

The problem I have with Android isn't that they disconnect. They never, ever disconnect or unpair.

Ben Richards

Ah.

allquixotic

7:52 PM

You get random clicks and pops and cuts.

It's the sound equivalent of having a sudden, short-lived framerate drop in a game.

Ben Richards

nods

allquixotic

60 fps, 60 fps, 60 fps, happy :), oh wait 0.75 seconds of 0 fps! O_O

Ben Richards

I will get that rarely. I attribute it to wireless interference.

Which sometimes in unavoidable.

Heh

allquixotic

I never get that, even in the super-busy 2.4 GHz wireless environment at work, with my Avantree Saturn Pro transmitter

wireless interference is indeed the cause, but with enough TX power, you can literally shout over the noise

like when you are in a cafeteria, and suddenly the volume level of everyone's conversation gets much louder because one group has a guy who gets fired up about something and starts shouting

so everyone naturally talks louder

Ben Richards

Actually, I think I usually fix it by rebooting my phone. The WP Bluetooth stack has its bugs too, but usually a reboot fixes it. I mainly encounter it w/ syncing my fitbit.

Dude, the headphones you linked are like $350. Not going for that level :P

allquixotic

7:55 PM

I know people who love their iPhones; I know people who love their Androids (me too, except for the bluetooth issue); and I know you who loves his WP8.... but hearing that WP8 has its own bluetooth issues does not especially inspire confidence :/

@BenRichards :D I totally am, and did, haha. have them on my ears now

Ben Richards

hehe

I have headphones that are that good, but I want something for casual listening and portability. :P

allquixotic

Sennheiser has a sort of "semi-recall" (unofficial) on the over-ear version of those same cans, but not the on-ears, oddly enough -- though, the on-ears came out 3 months after, so maybe there's a legit "over-ear-specific" problem o_O

Ben Richards

Holy crap these Beats earbuds are $200. I don't think I'll ever buy something from them.

Heh

allquixotic

@BenRichards if you bought a Beats product, I'm pretty sure @Bob would !!/kick you from chat ;p

Ben Richards

Hehe

One of my highschool friends has Beats headphones. But I give him a pass since he got it with points from playing at Dave & Buster's a lot. So he technically didn't pay money for them. And it's probably one of the better things he could've spend points on in their gift shop anyway.

allquixotic

7:57 PM

lol nice

Ben Richards

Should I do earbuds? I'm kind of warming to the idea of not having something digging against my head when laying down, or preventing me from rolling over.

I think I will.

allquixotic

my problem is, I've never found a pair of earbuds that will stick in my ears

I think I need a pair that come with superglue or epoxy

they just fall right out

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