Root Access

Burgi

2:00 PM

ours had a corrugated plastic roof and no walls

DavidPostill

And TreeHouse Masters

Bob

@DavidPostill ha. I'll try that when I get the time machine working

djsmiley2k

ahhhhhh software engineering is down

Don't panic, it's back!

Journeyman Geek

Treehouse masters

Burgi

@Bob @djsmiley2k @DavidPostill @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

2:04 PM

hm

Red freehand circles. APPROBED!

Rahul2001

congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1275 WTF

Ben N

That's an ambitious title

DavidPostill

The world's largest treehouse

Burgi

@DavidPostill they are just showing off

DavidPostill

Tour The World's Largest Treehouse

►

Burgi

2:06 PM

is it supported solely by the tree?

DavidPostill

@Burgi 6 different trees

Bob

@Rahul2001 rofl

I guess that's what he meant when he said it was going to be great? :P

DavidPostill

> As of 2013, the 97-foot-tall tree house and church is supported by a still-living 80-foot-tall white oak tree with a 12-foot diameter base, and relies on six other oak trees for support

Horace Burgess's Treehouse

Horace Burgess's treehouse (also known as the Minister's Treehouse) is a treehouse and church in Crossville, Tennessee. Construction began in 1993, mostly by Burgess who says he had a visionary commandment from God to build a treehouse, and has continued since. Today it is a popular local attraction which has been unofficially called the largest tree house in the world. It was closed by the state in 2012 for fire code violations. == History and description == Horace Burgess, a local Minister, was praying in 1993 when he claims God told him, "If you build a tree house, I'll see that you never run...

Burgi

show off

DavidPostill

@Burgi He was told to build it by God :)

NULL

2:17 PM

If I have a Wifi Access Point setup which redirects all traffic from wlan0 to eth0, what is the simplest way to redirect only http traffic to my local web server? I am using dnsmasq, apache2, and hostapd.

I asked a question here superuser.com/questions/1186204/… where I had it to where it tries to rediect everything to my server but I wan't https to pass through.

I am getting the idea it might be easier to start with allowing everything to pass through and some how only redirect http traffic to my local server but I am not sure how to do that.

Would that be a dnsmasq setting or iptables configuration? I would really appreciate some help. I would ask a question but as you can see in the linked question the comments are so extended that it would be better in a chat environment.

Would I say iptables -t nat -A INPUT -i wlan0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.1:80?

djsmiley2k

@NULL iptables, still.

Rahul2001

Much Thug: howtogeek.com/290346/kodi-is-not-a-piracy-application

djsmiley2k

unless you're not the same user as last night, in which case the answer is just 'iptables'

Journeyman Geek

I think he is

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek me too

NULL

2:28 PM

yeah I am :-)

Does that iptables command I listed look like it would work?

djsmiley2k

iptables something something -p 443 --redirect-to blah

Burgi

if i say "cyberist" what springs to mind?

djsmiley2k

i don't think you set the port in the destination

you can set 'destination port' but you don't need to, as you're not changing it

NULL

ok

but I dont want to redirect 443 https I want to leave that alone since it is already being allowed to the internet. I want to redirect http to my local server

djsmiley2k

so -p80

boom, done

NULL

2:30 PM

ok cool

ill try that

So like this maybe? iptables -t nat -A INPUT -i wlan0 -p 80 -j DNAT --redirect-to 10.0.0.1

Burgi

anyone?

djsmiley2k

that looks good to me, without validating it myself

@Burgi it means nothing to me

someone who engages in cyber... sex?

Journeyman Geek

sounds like someone got drunk and made up words.

Burgi

interesting...

NULL

haha yall are funny

Oliver Salzburg

2:34 PM

@Burgi The first thing that springs to mind with every made-up word: urbandictionary

And, yes, I know that all words are made up :P

Burgi

our customer is an idiot and things its a great word for their marketing material

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi Well, UD hints at them being criminals

@Burgi Just tell them you love it. "It has a nice ring to it. Like racist or terrorist."

djsmiley2k

2:49 PM

@Burgi D:

Burgi

apparently they've already discussed it and a lawyer has said it is fine. so.... shrug

cyber terrorist came to my mind immediately

Oliver Salzburg

!!urban cyberist

ChatBot John Cavil

@OliverSalzburg This command has been removed due to an excessive number of risqué results. It can be readded after some sanitisation is added. Feel free to do so here.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi in which case, make sure any objections you have is documented, and let the petard hoisting commence!

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek already done

DavidPostill

2:57 PM

@Burgi books.google.co.uk/… :)

Burgi

i'm just documenting the fact this server is to one that is always falling over

when we send out a mass email to 50,000 people plus all the press releases its going to fail immediately

i hate customers dictating on technical matters beyond their ken

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi Why? It gives them the feeling that they're participating when you later ignore their suggestions ;D

Not that I would ever do that

DavidPostill

@Burgi This is the government website?

Burgi

gov sponsored, yes

TOWMN

3:13 PM

I wonder if @bob is still up

Journeyman Geek

3:23 PM

20

Q: Network-wide HTTPS: It's time

This is a heads up, and a request for help. Related: original post from our test site, Meta Stack Overflow. HTTPS for our entire network is long overdue, but we've been working hard on it behind the scenes. Expect a pretty big blog post when we turn it on everywhere that details the journey. Th...

2

Burgi

our customer's reaction to anything more technical than a wall:

Journeyman Geek

Cause its bloody important and I need to read it a little more concious ;p

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i don't understand the bit about moving the meta sites

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi we're fine. Something like meta.wauzers.stackexchange needs to be renamed to wauzers.meta.stackexchange

so then they can just have a wildcard cert for *.meta.se rather than for every single domain

or something

SU should probably keep SU and MSU

I think

Ben N

3:39 PM

Given that SO is keeping meta.SO, I'm pretty sure we'll keep meta.SU

Oliver Salzburg

I didn't read the meta post, but, has anyone said "OMG LOL DONT U KNOW ABOUT LETSENCRYPTE???!!" yet?

Burgi

can they not just wildcard *.stackexchange?

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi That only does 1 level

Burgi

huh

Oliver Salzburg

They need **.stackexchange.com ;P

Burgi

3:45 PM

@OliverSalzburg i'll ask it if you promise to upvote my comment

Ben N

I think someone did, probably on MSO

Burgi

@OliverSalzburg so why can't they do that or am i missing something?

Oliver Salzburg

@Burgi Sure :D

@Burgi You can't actually get ** certs. That was a joke

Ben N

Doesn't the existence of automated CAs like Let's Encrypt makes this less of an issue, since you could just have a new cert automatically issued every time a new site is created (with no manual action required)? — Ajedi32 23 hours ago

Ultimately, it's because some jerk bought *.*.com decades ago. So they pretty much ruined it for everybody. — Nick Craver ♦ yesterday

Burgi

OMG LOL DONT U KNOW ABOUT LETSENCRYPTE???!! — Burgi 17 secs ago

Oliver Salzburg

3:49 PM

@Burgi I could not have written a better comment

Ben N

IIRC their servers are Windows-based, so Let's Encrypt is a little tricky to use

Burgi

@BenN works fine with PLESK ;)

Ben N

Oh, neat

Burgi

plesk has an auto installer

i tested it on our ticket system last week

Ben N

4:03 PM

6

Q: Stack Exchange Privacy Policy Update

As you all know, once in a while we have to update our Privacy Policy. Now is one of those times. Here's what's different with today's update: Safe Harbor has been replaced by the EU-US Privacy Shield. We updated all references to Safe Harbor and relevant links, as well as the logo at the bott...

discussion featured legal privacy announcements

Burgi

4:23 PM

@OliverSalzburg it got deleted :(

they have no sense of humour

Oliver Salzburg

Censorship!

They hate free internet!

To the twitters!

djsmiley2k

Best Drummer Ever [HD]

►

dat speed.

Burgi

4:38 PM

> Duty on beer, cider, wine and spirits will increase in line with RPI inflation. This will equate to 2p on a pint of beer, 1p on a pint of cider, 36p on a bottle of whisky and 32p on a bottle of gin

djsmiley2k

Boo

Burgi

> £16m for 5G mobile technology and £200m for local broadband networks

djsmiley2k

16m for 5G doesn't seem liike much

i guess they hope the telco's roll it out, har har

DavidPostill

@Burgi How much is a pint of beer in the pub these days?

I haven't had a beer in a pub for about 10 years ... in the UK anyway.

Burgi

in a standard Mancunian weatherspoons its about £3

its about £5+ the wastelands of london

i suspect liverpool would be similar to manchester

djsmiley2k

4:47 PM

yup same here from what I recall

(randomly glance at the menu while having identifit meal with family

Burgi

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39203784

they have nothing on fuel duty

djsmiley2k

Fuel duty will be frozen for a seventh year, but the cost of vehicle insurance may rise owing to an increase in the Insurance Premium Tax from 10% to 12% in June

NULL

Ok so I am making some progress and now I have a different question. Is there a way to show a web page that says a user must log in through site x when they request https sites? I am trying to avoid the ssl authentification errors

DavidPostill

What's weird is the price of my favourite wine (AU Yellow Label Cabernet Sauvignon) is the same price today as it was 10/15 years ago.

djsmiley2k

@NULL now you're getting complicated

NULL

5:05 PM

yeah

I have a love/hate relationship with https and now on the developing side I absolutely detest it haha

djsmiley2k

5:18 PM

segment 63

0

Q: Win 10 boot not working after local shop tried "image" backup

It was suggested on Ubuntu's forum that I try to ask this question here. I had a dual grub boot of Ubuntu 12.04 and Win 10 (upgraded from Win 7) on my Sony VAIO. WIFI dropped out in 12.04 and win 10, so took it to the local place that I bought it (used) to see if the hardware was at fault. They ...

ubuntu windows-10 multi-boot

the end of the mbr?

@NULL so basically you want to let HTTPS pass through unhindered, AFTER they've logged into a portal page?

bwDraco

roar

djsmiley2k

wtf did I click on to end up here: bbc.com/mundo

(from the bbc homepage)

NULL

5:39 PM

@djsmiley2k My parent goal is to make a seamless transition from a user connecting to my AP and him getting my login page. http is fine. But for https I don't want them to see certificate errors and "this is a bad guy" messages. My conclusion was that I should let https pass through but I wondered if there was a way to redirect https without errors to a message that says please login through hotspot.login

djsmiley2k

redirect them to a http page instead maybe?

NULL

yes that would be great but idk how to do that...I though if computer A requests facebook.com it will complain if it does not recieve that exact site. Its possible to redirect an https request to my http site?

If that is possible that would be awesome!!

djsmiley2k

infact this answer says exactly that.

0

A: SSL Certificate errors in Captive Portals

In any case, if the users receive a certificate error is because the Certificate doesn't match the Site hostname. In your case, this means that you are redirecting users to your portal without changing the URL. The users see "http://www.google.com" in their address bar but your portal in the scr...

allquixotic

hi

djsmiley2k

I think you'd do it in 2 or 3 steps

1 hit the 'https: version of your site/portal'

2. that contains a redirect to the http version

3. they 'login' on the http version

evening @allquixotic

Ben N

5:51 PM

Hi!

NULL

Wow that looks awesome!!

djsmiley2k

@NULL not sure if it'll work, never tried myself

I keep concidering running my pi with 'free wifi' in my bag

just to see who connects luls

NULL

Man that is genious if it does work...that would be so awesome

yeah I know right its gonna be fun

Would you happen to know how to implement the 303 redirection I saw the wiki page in the answer but I am not sure how I would do it. My web server is nginx

djsmiley2k

arm server chip o/-O wndows server, :O

@NULL I'd google it, never used ngnix myself

NULL

ok cool ill report back

djsmiley2k

5:58 PM

good luck!

It's weird, I built my own router, learnt all about QoS, and routing, and bridges and other weird things..

still feel like I know nothing

bwDraco

6:18 PM

in Ask a Super User Moderator, 17 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

Just let it be, there's better uses of our time.

Jan 15 at 23:49, by Journeyman Geek

The best use of my time is when I'm clearly told what needs my attention

So... fundamental issue. I tend to treat time as having little value, sometimes no value at all. What should I do?

This is causing schedules to not hold up, and I'm in danger of becoming unable to honor appointments or other obligations.

djsmiley2k

time is money

this is an empathy issue, if nothing else

other peoples time, costs them money

don't waste it.

bwDraco

I think the empathy issue is actually quite simple and simply needs to be practiced. It will probably take a few months to address, but I'm very confident this will succeed.

djsmiley2k

oh

well, it's the way i personally value time

if you spend my time, you make me sad

bertieb

Time is almost the only thing you cannot get more of

(by definition)

It's a slightly morbid view, but the clock is always ticking down

Burgi

ffs

there is a problem with the tenancy agreement

djsmiley2k

6:35 PM

there's a problem with everything

sup with yo livin anyway?

@bertieb yup

DavidPostill

@Burgi What is the problem?

djsmiley2k

we need to know @Burgi!

@bwDraco oh also don't feel obliged to agree to something at a perticular time, especially if you're not actually sure you can make it

Burgi

1 sec, they just phoned

djsmiley2k

So anyway, i got emailed about a job at Arm Ltd.

o_O

Thanks, but no thanks

it was a conbination of sysadmin, programming, and everything else thrown in

I'm £9.42 a month bettter off thanks to the budget! wow.

bwDraco

Why??? ARM Ltd is a huge company with lots of room to grow.

Burgi

6:44 PM

right.... ok so....

there appears to have been a falling out between the estate agent and the landlords

bertieb

@djsmiley2k drinks are officially on you

Burgi

the building has also failed on a safety thing that they need to fix before i can move in

bertieb

@Burgi "failed on a safety thing" sounds like a euphemism for "one of the walls/ceilings collapsed"

Burgi

i think it is the new fire alarm

bertieb

"Fire alarm-related safety problem" == "building on fire"

Speaking of buildings on fire, guess what made bertieb's commute take 4.5h instead of ca. 1h this morning?!

Burgi

6:49 PM

train fire?

bertieb

Meat factory fire

Started in the wee hours of the morning, no diversion in place until during/after (?) rush hour

Was a great illustration of the sunk cost fallacy

"I've been here for ages so I'll just wait a little longer, it's bound to start moving soon"

I was not a happy panda

Wait, that's not the phrase. Not a happy bunny.

Burgi

after 2 hours i normally abort and work from home if i'm less that 50% of the way to the office

djsmiley2k

@bertieb well, a drink ;)

@bwDraco impostor syndrome, the traveling (I have no clue where they are based)...

Burgi

so the woman at the landlords office was cagey as hell and refused to email me confirming the details of what she said on the phone

djsmiley2k

!!everythingisfine

:/

ChatBot John Cavil

6:53 PM

@djsmiley2k That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Burgi

so i'm writing her an email so it is written down somewhere

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k Hmm...

lol

That might be a scam.

Burgi

its not a scam, i've been to the flat

bwDraco

Then what's with the similar company name?

Burgi

tbh it sounded like someone had quit and just left a huge mess for her to clean up

@bwDraco er...?

bwDraco

6:56 PM

Are you sure this is ARM Holdings plc or some other company?

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco nah it's Arm LTD

Burgi

OH!

bwDraco

Hmm. That's really odd.

djsmiley2k

ARM ltd.

/me can't type

Burgi

i thought you meant my apartment

bwDraco

6:57 PM

What country?

djsmiley2k

@Burgi that also could be some weird scam

@bwDraco dunno, didn't investigate further, but I presume UK

bwDraco

The company is ARM Ltd. in the US.

Burgi

i'm pretty confident it isn't

bwDraco

Are you sure it's the processor designer company based in Cambridge?

Burgi

@bwDraco they are based closed to where @djsmiley2k lives

djsmiley2k

6:58 PM

they are? XD

wait, Cambridge isn't close enough

/me sighs

bwDraco

The corporate name of the company is ARM Holdings plc, which is currently owned by SoftBank. ARM Ltd is a subsidiary.

I really hope you know what ARM is...

It powers virtually every smartphone on the market.

djsmiley2k

yes

well no

they design the chips

and licence them

It's not like intel, who produce the chips they design

@bwDraco it'd be like 2 hr travel each way, no thanks

bwDraco

Ah.

djsmiley2k

1 h 34 min (84.1 mi) via A14

Anyway I'd likely just stress myself over the job too

bwDraco

Yuck.

djsmiley2k

7:06 PM

indeed

bwDraco

Granted, we New Yorkers tend to get used to these sorts of commutes, but still... facepalm

djsmiley2k

my current is 20minutes \o/

bwDraco

> 84.1 mi

Ysmir's beard!

Going all the way to Cambridge, I suppose?

That can easily balloon to 3+ hours in bad traffic.

djsmiley2k

yeah

not exactly close xD

bwDraco

If it's ARM headquarters in Cambridge, it's not worth it.

djsmiley2k

7:14 PM

it's a sysadmin and other bits role

looks really badly defined

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Telecommute?

djsmiley2k

unlikely to be offered or really viable either

I'm still in the 'processes' of a telecommute cisco role heh

Someone, somewhere has my CV

and it's not even up to date anymore :D

bwDraco

ARM is supposed to be a great company to work for. Also, consider that their architecture powers virtually every smartphone on the market. A job at a company this large shouldn't be taken so lightly.

Then again, that commute is really bad.

Burgi

3 hour commute is too long for any job under £50k

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco i'm not even sure of the money

but concider cisco offered £40,000 to sit at home in my pants and be flown out to texas twice a year..

Burgi

7:21 PM

1hr commute is fine

1.5 if its a good job, anything over that and its not worth it

bwDraco

Heh. Keep your current job.

djsmiley2k

im happy (if bored outta my skull right now) at my current role.

Michael Frank

8:09 PM

Who was the clever cookie that decided people should have 15GB mailbox limits!! >:(

djsmiley2k

@Comicbookguy are you here to chat to us, or just to yourself?

Burgi

er....

Ben N

You can see the list of present people in the upper right under the room description

Burgi

we were still here

is that a question?

right, well i'm going to go drive fast for a little while

djsmiley2k

8:27 PM

I'm about to drive slow

@Comicbookguy do you often walk into a empty room and start monologging?

cool

2 minutes \o/

tereško

... that's promising

Ben N

It's fine to try to start a discussion if nobody's active, but you'll get best results if you do so in a way that invites back-and-forth conversation

djsmiley2k

@tereško your hair is so fluffy!

tereško

s/is/are

I have more than one

djsmiley2k

hair is plural and singular

Ben N

8:31 PM

Interestingly, "hair" can be either a single strand or the whole arrangement. English is strange ~~sometimes~~

tereško

that was not the part I had issues with

Michael Frank

Also, 0 (zero) is considered a plural. "I found 0 results. "

Burgi

9:12 PM

> your hair ARE so fluffy

that's terrible grammar

one day, before they ban non-autonomous cars, i will own a hot hatch and i will drive it like a mentalist

the day they do ban them the world will be a little grayer and a little less fun

NULL

I think I found my answer in regards to my captive portal issue. Let all the https go to nowhere and make what I do is make all the captive portal detection links go to my site.. Like iOS checks captive.apple.com/hotspot-detect.html and android checks something else. I just make those links go to my page and that will then be the first thing the user sees!

Burgi

look! look at it!!!!

NULL

no because for https it cant perform the handshake so the browser gives certificate error

is that car supposed to be pretty because that is the new definition of ugly IMHO

Burgi

WHAT!!!!

do you have no eyes?

NULL

haha

Burgi

9:19 PM

@NULL i challenge you to find a hotter hatchback

NULL

ok challenge accepted

Burgi

lol, no

Mokubai

@Burgi Is that a Ford Focus?

Ewwww

Burgi

@Mokubai yes

WHAT!!!!

NULL

Burgi

9:21 PM

@NULL thats not a hatchback

NULL

no?

Burgi

its also not that good looking and has a flawed 4WD system

that sounds horrific

NULL

whats the craze about hatchbacks anyway..I don't like them in gneral

general*

Michael Frank

@Burgi That's a nice looking car.

Burgi

@NULL in europe they are the dominant type of car body shape

@MichaelFrank i've always liked fast fords

Michael Frank

9:36 PM

@Burgi Not sure if the Holden vs. Ford thing made it's way to the UK...

Burgi

it hasn't

Michael Frank

Must be an ANZAC thing I guess...

Burgi

i think in the UK we have many more car brands than the three you guys seem to have (Ford, Holden/GM and Toyota)

yes

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Go for it. Worst that can happen is they pick someone else.

Burgi

those challenges rank you globally

our prefered recruitment agency came in the other week and demo'd the system

bwDraco

9:48 PM

It's a startup. From what I can tell, it's an HFT company. I'm not sure if I want to do it now...

Burgi

@bwDraco take the test and get the interview practise

you lose nothing and gain loads in XP

@Mokubai is there a mod tool that bulk changes tags?

actually, nvm

Mokubai

@Burgi we can merge one tag into another if we need to

Burgi

i think it is already linked

bwDraco

I'll go ahead. Looks like it's worth a shot.

Burgi

ms-office to microsoft-office

bwDraco

9:52 PM

I'll brush up on my C++ skills and get to work.

Burgi

@bwDraco good luck!

Michael Frank

@Burgi Yea, it's a synonym:

> The following tags will be remapped to microsoft-office
ms-office and office

Mokubai

@Burgi already a synonym and no q's with ms-office

Burgi

yeah i misread the information originally

i was looking for some tags with no wiki entries to update

Michael Frank

I do this all the time. Ask a question, then continue reading the material and realise my question is answered like 2 lines later.

bwDraco

10:37 PM

Developer

MANA Partners LLC

c++linuxmultithreading

MANA Partners LLC, an exciting financial technology incubator and quantitative trading startup, is seeking c++…

Posted on Stack Overflow Jobs on October 25, 2016

^^^ This is the position in quesiton.

Bob

10:48 PM

hi

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