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6:00 PM
Or even decently formatted lol
 
I thought my answer was informative, thhough obviously not the one you wanted =D
Little details like this could have made the whole Windows 8 experience so much better.
Tell you what, find me a better answer and I'll try and find you a better one =D superuser.com/questions/497122/…
How do I link to questions like that Kronos? Is it just based on rep?
 
Just paste nothing but the link in the box
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Q: Can the People app alert me to incoming SMS messages from a Windows Phone 8 handset?

corwin01Will the People app in Windows 8 have functionality like the Message Center in OS X, allowing you to send/receive your SMS messages from a Windows 8 machine? And if not, is there a 3rd party solution to accomplish this?

@corwin01 Yours is definitely the best, but it's still a "No" answer >_<
 
lol I was sent a clippy
@r.tanner.f ah, figured
 
6:15 PM
how much rep do you need to talk in here?
 
20 I think?
 
wow
is that SE global?
 
So how are the prizes being distributed? Winners contacted for address after its over and then sent from MS?
 
i need to invite a friend here
is that possible?
 
Don't know
Get him 20 rep real quick? lol
Post one decent question\answer and I'll help :P
 
6:20 PM
lol
i think hes going to make a new room
if he can figure out how to

 1234567890 for dummies

A room to help my dummy friend
i know you can see this dummy, join that room
 
lawl
@allquixotic Can he talk there?
 
no...
does meta.su count?
 
Bob
@corwin01 guess it depends on the prize
 
@allquixotic 20 rep. :P Two upvotes on an answer. One from you, one from me. As long as it isn't so awful that he gets downvoted, he'll be able to talk in chat.
 
cool
hehe one more upvote and it'll be basically immune to downvoting, and he keeps the rep if it gets deleted right?
 
6:30 PM
Not if it gets deleted, but he will if the question gets closed :P lol
 
heh...
i gave him an easy question to post an answer on, but he's being slow
uhh, weird? he says he answered but his answer isn't appearing O_O
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Q: In my college, we have to register with our laptop's MAC addresss to the administrator for accessing the wi-fi network. How to get rid of it?

AGNIIn our college , the students have to register with their laptop's MAC address with the administrator to use the wi-fi access to the system. otherwise, Even though is signal is available, we cant use the wi-fi services. Can you computer experts, provide me a way to use the wi-fi without registe...

AH
the answer is his
@r.tanner.f upv
 
All set =D
haha
 
ahahaha
great hack @r.tanner.f you're a bro
 
edited to give it substance and prevent answer deletion
grin
 
6:35 PM
Ah I was going to edit it myself but you beat me to it =D
 
I know the question doesn't matter, but couldn't the MAC be spoofed?
 
Yeah, that's what I was thinking
but I don't think we want to lead that guy down this path =\
 
he would have to spoof the MAC of a known whitelisted device; I assume their network whitelists rather than blacklists
 
He'll probably grab a server's MAC, bork the whole network, and get kicked out of college
 
MACs are sufficiently complicated that finding a whitelisted MAC in a sufficiently small list is almost cryptographically hard... almost
besides, all the searching it'd take to do that, would definitely tip off the admins if he brute forced it
unless he read the MAC off of a secretary's desktop
........
@r.tanner.f, it's saying he still doesn't have enough rep
the room i made is based on SU site
 
6:39 PM
note sure what's going on
maybe it takes a minute?
or could that only be for the main room? o_O
 
uh, it appears he has two separate SE accounts
one for meta.SO and one for SU and they aren't linked
http://superuser.com/users/171591/joshua-sieber
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/201406/jtbadn
it looks like he posted the SU answer as an "unregistered" account
how does he associate his SU account with the google account he logged into chat iwth?
I remember running into this problem when i was new, too
i had two separate unassociated accounts on SO and SU and it somehow associated them together
 
could he register the unreg'd account with openid?
 
thing is, I don't know how the account can be unregistered if it has his name
he says he signed in with google
 
@r.tanner.f Sorry being late to the room... Someone starred that your company sells Cuban cigars?
 
6:54 PM
lol
 
I miss my Cuban Cigars... Damn arsonists... Burning them :P
 
wow, this duplicate account thing is fairly annoying, dunno why my friend can't seem to figure out how to get to chat using his SU account
i think he created a real stackexchange account and needs to link the google openid or something
I don't know
https://stackexchange.com/users/2016927/jtbadn?tab=accounts
http://superuser.com/users/171591/joshua-sieber
anyone know?
OK this is messed up
 
Don't know
 
his parent user on meta.SO has 1 rep but his SU user has 41 rep, but he can't talk in a SU room, even though the accounts are linked now
how does that work?!
why does chat think his parent user is on meta.SO if he's in a SU room?
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Q: Why can I not post in chat rooms on Stack Overflow? My reputation is 26, and it says I need 20

Visyoual Possible Duplicate: How long does it take for chat profiles to update? I have 26 reputation points. When I go to a chat room, it says I have to have a reputation of at least 20 to talk. Why can't I post in the chat room, then? I asked a question about a JavaScript problem, and I thin...

I need to answer one question and then downvote 9 bad answers
I have 6665 rep
 
7:25 PM
gsus
finaly
 
thank grud
 
ya
 
stupid chat ... OK now you can go ahead and ask your question over on the other chat
but you can stay here if you want, these are some cool cats
when they're around
 
If italics could glare at you, those would
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ya, I did.
 
8:06 PM
@allquixotic ohhh hourly refresh xD
 
@r.tanner.f Yup
 
@Luke Did that happen to you?
 
8:21 PM
Is it typical of other tablets that the on-screen keyboard allows touch-typing? I've not actually used other tablets quite that much before.
I only remember that the on-screen keyboard in Windows 7 was horribly inadequate for quick text input :P
I'm mainly asking about the iPad and Android tablets, and what it's like to type on their full-size on-screen keyboards.
 
touch-typing?
 
Yeah, like two hands on the keyboard, fingers at asdf jkl;, and typing.
 
oh O_o I've never tried... but I imagine it's going to look like this: fsad;jkl
don't think you can just rest your fingers on the keys
 
Well I was wondering if you could on the iPad and Android tablets, because last night I tried it on my Win8 tablet and found (to my surprise) that it's actually very doable and comfortable.
I wanted to know if that was typical
Though I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since Microsoft does have a "touch cover" for their Surface, which enables this plus the benefit of tactile keys...
 
I'll try it on an iPad once I'm home. Now I'm curious.
 
8:28 PM
Cool
Of course if you're not careful, your fingers start to drift and you can hit other places on the screen (as would be expected on a touchscreen with no physical keys). But if you pay attention, that isn't a problem.
 
@r.tanner.f No, just something I thought we would like posted here
 
@sidran32 I've never been able to touch type on an on-screen keyboard with any accuracy before, because I use the physical slots between the keys to align my fingers
when they invent touchscreens that can gently jut out subtle changes in elevation without destroying the screen, I'll try again
but my fingers are too used to feeling for the keys themselves and their relative positions to "grip" the keyboard and figure out how to consistently touch type
the only other mode of typing I know is using two or three fingers (usually one finger on each hand, or just one finger period, depending on device size) to hunt and peck on an on-screen kbd
 
the odds of winning anything from the contest are steadily declining
 
@allquixotic Yeah. I understand that. But for me at least, I find it's pretty easy to pick up.
It took a lot of getting used to when I moved from a smartphone with a hardware keyboard to one with only a touchscreen. :P
Also, I hear they actually are working on touchscreens that can do that. Stuff to do with using electric signals to change the feel of the texture and screens that can bump... like the next level of haptic feedback. Pretty cool stuff. Admittedly, I haven't read up on it in a while, though.
 
@r.tanner.f I get a T-shirt!
 
8:43 PM
This just makes me sad: cloud.hartwig-at.de
I built that in Chrome and I just looked at it in IE
 
Haha
 
Looks fine in FF... Let me try IE
 
Yeah, it looks like sh*t in IE
 
Dufuq?
 
:D
Even the cloud shape itself is horrible
But they really saved it with IE10 on Windows 8!
Wow!
 
8:46 PM
Weird, in IE10 it at least doesn't have the weird pixilation for me...
 
@sidran32 Well, this is in VirtualBox, might be the reason
 
@OliverSalzburg Aha. Yeah.
 
Opera cloud is also really weird
And Safari has the same crappy cloud IE has... at least on Windows
 
Just had a user accidentally delete a folder off her desktop. Oddly it didn't go in the recycle bin, so I created a test file and what do ya know, nothing goes in the recycle bin. O_o
Is this normal if you point the desktop to a mapped network drive?
 
@r.tanner.f You can disable the Recycle Bin
 
8:53 PM
@r.tanner.f Or a stuck shift caps lock. :D
 
This looks interesting... github.com/liftoff/GateOne
 
@OliverSalzburg !
that was it
wtf... I'm changing that setting via GPO, that ain't gonna stand...
 
@r.tanner.f why are the odds of winning declining?
 
@corwin01 More people are reaching higher levels =D
 
Are we talking about the levels, or the tiles?
 
9:00 PM
both
 
Ah. Theres a set limit to the amount to be given on the levels? Can't say I'm suprised
 
hmm?
It's a drawing
there's 15 mice for level 2, 6 prizes for level 3, and two surfaces. plus a drawing for the keyboard on each tile.
rough odds right now for having completed all tiles and all levels is a 60% chance of coming out with some loot other than a t-shirt
 
I thought the levels were a set prize for attaining it. At least thats how the contest page makes it seem
 
no, everyone gets a t-shirt, the rest are drawings
 
Well, should have figured, sounded too good the other way =)
 
9:03 PM
ya :P lol
although 60% isn't bad
at all.
 
Nope.
Hopefully I can hit lvl 4 by the time it ends to have a shot there
At the rate its going, it doesn't seem like we'll see more than 20 or so people in that drawing
 
@corwin01 Right now you have roughly a 44% chance of getting some loot
unless I've forgotten how to calculate probabilities =S
 
heh
no matter what I'll still be happy. Came out with a free Win7 Ultimate from the 7 launch. MS does some good promotions sometimes
 
Yep
 
9:11 PM
@OliverSalzburg That feeds my ever growing paranoia...
 
i didn't click the link, but the low-level name of the program helped alleviate my paranoia
it says com.pas.webcam -- "pas" in French is "not", so it's not a webcam =D
 
@allquixotic :D
Well it streams your Android camera as an MJPG stream
I'll have to put it on my home phone and see how permanent use will affect battery life
I would imagine drastically
 
good use for an old phone
 
And with this: ip-webcam.appspot.com you can then use it as a camera on your PC
Which is extra neat
 
@OliverSalzburg MJPG is pretty inefficient compared to, say, webm or h264, isn't it?
 
9:16 PM
@allquixotic Possibly
 
anyway, even if the encoding is very CPU-cheap (relatively) and the bandwidth is very low (relatively), having the CPU, camera, and network interface always on is going to absolutely destroy battery life
 
Has anyone here used a Cooler Master case? Looking at an HAF X, wondering if the complaints about needing to replace the stock fans are legit
 
Whhhhyyy is accounting asking me what accounts things should be charged too? O_o I'm help desk. All I do is box up the replacement equipment and ship it places.
 
It seems odd to me that CM would have crappy stock fans for one thing
 
@allquixotic I would assume that was the format that was easiest to grab from the hardware
 
9:16 PM
heh
Cooler (not so) Master
 
I'm on Lancool
 
@OliverSalzburg presumably -- if the hardware camera's video stream is just MJPG (which is a bunch of slung together JPG images which would make a lot of sense), the CPU doesn't have to do much of anything to encode it
if the camera has its own dedicated ASIC that does the JPG encoding, the CPU just copies data from the camera to the network, real simple-like
still... energy-intensive
 
Yeah, I'll run tests
 
I will resign myself from level 2 in the contest. I already have an Arc Touch mouse. :P
 
@BenBrocka 1k reviews and it's still at 5 stars? I wouldn't worry too much :P
 
9:18 PM
If I get picked, hopefully I can pass on the prize.
 
Noone is forcing me to run it of batteries... but still :D
@sidran32 How is it?
 
@r.tanner.f Yeah, I was surprised about that too. Seems kickass all around and I can get it for $150 after rebate. Just wondering if I'm going to have to/want to spring for new fans after that
 
@OliverSalzburg It's pretty slick. It works well, just gotta be used to deftly holding the mouse (I don't grip it hard so the thin form factor isn't a problem for me).
The touch strip for scrolling is pretty neat. When I first got the thing, I kept playing with it (it has haptic feedback--each time it scrolls it "bumps").
 
It would be nice for me to have a mouse to take home when I'm on call
I always forget the unifying reciever when I bring my logitech
 
@sidran32 I like it already :D
 
9:22 PM
@BenBrocka Looks like the edge cases are pretty gnarly though O_o sounds more like bad customer support than bad product though.
 
When it's flat (turned off), it slips into a pocket very easily, too. It's not much thicker than my cell phone (Lumia 900).
 
@r.tanner.f Hard to tell, lots of people go straight to newegg reviews instead of actually attempting an RMA/customer service call
 
@BenBrocka I use a Cooler Master case. It's only a month or two old, though. But, it's seeming to hold up pretty well.
 
They also did a response to every 1 egg review listed, so I take it their support is actually pretty good
@sidran32 Fans quiet, didn't have to replace any?
 
My case I was using previously (until I swapped it for one that was larger) was a Thermaltake and a lot of people in reviews said that the fan controllers were quick to fail. However, after over a year, it worked well. Only replaced the rear case fan because it started making grinding noises.
@BenBrocka Fans are silent, none replaced (yet).
I'm using a Storm Stryker, btw.
 
9:27 PM
I've heard scary things about thermaltake
 
From what I can tell, it's very hit and miss with them. I was using the Thermaltake Element G. It's a good case, but it was just a bit small for my graphics cards. I dealt with it for a while but finally wanted to get a slightly larger case and clean things up.
 
@BenBrocka newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133045 This one has served me well.
 
I've heard that thermaltake is on a mission of conquest, a mission, to ensure that all our heat are belong to them... they want to be the source of entropy in the universe... they want to be... the Big Bang
hence, thermal, take
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Haha
 
Wouldn't that make them the big crunch?
 
9:30 PM
Also, I apparently got the one good PSU that Tt actually makes. They don't have a good rep for PSUs, apparently.
 
@sidran32 those looked neat, sounds like the HAF are the best of the best though
The Obsidian series by Corsair looks sexier, but they're like $100 more and don't seem to have any outstanding features
 
@BenBrocka correct
 
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Q: Changinging ownership without the sudo command

ThegluestickmanI made a big boo-boo. I was setting up a Ubuntu Server and I wanted to allow the FTP client to access the /etc/ folder so I used the chown command to allow my account to use it. However, this changed the ownership of sudo and broke it. I can't run any commands as sudo because the owner is not ro...

Just great :D
 
@BenBrocka I have a Corsair Obsidian 650D. Coolest case I've ever had, in terms of functionality. Not interested in the cosmetics. Love the fact that it has a SATA (not eSATA O_O) drive bay on the external part of the case
 
@BenBrocka I wouldn't know. I tried to get something that had what I wanted, wasn't an eyesore, and got good hands-on reviews.
 
9:32 PM
Pretty roomy (relative to other mid-towers I've had). Awesome, awesome, awesome traditional air cooling setup. Nice location of PSU and HDDs.
 
@allquixotic the HAF X has two hot swap SATA bays. That's pretty sweet
 
I wanted one of the CM Cosmos series really bad, but it wouldn't fit under my desk, which made it a non-starter, unfortunately.
 
Thinking I might get a 3.5" bare drive and use that as my backup drive instead of an external, throw it in the safe when I'm not using it. Cheaper than an external
 
@OliverSalzburg I made a comment, but should that comment perhaps be an answer? I don't really go into detail (CBA) but I do give him a sketch of how to go about fixing it
 
@allquixotic I thought he already tried mounting it from another system?
 
9:35 PM
@BenBrocka My favorite thing about hot swap SATA bays is yanking a drive while it's powered on... I accidentally rotated the drive by rotating my wrist gently to the left (to turn the drive around) immediately after removing it, and the platters still had significant angular momentum the other way, and it felt like a Dyna-Bee :D
 
Well, recovery
 
@OliverSalzburg Recovery mode
 
@OliverSalzburg recovery is not another system, it's just the same system with a kernel command line parameter not to boot into the full GUI
 
I assumed recovery mode is a stripped down, additional system
@allquixotic Oh, was not aware of that
 
recovery mode won't do it for you... it's basically removing quiet splash from the kernel command line and replacing it with single
Ubuntu has a slightly special one but it's basically the same
it's not a separate OS in any way shape or form
 
9:36 PM
Oh, ok
 
@allquixotic I don't think I'll try that, I've had enough mechanical drives crap out on me
 
I know SATA is supposed to allow hot-swapping but I'm too chicken to actually test it out. :P
 
@sidran32 Would you feel better with an eSATA port? :P
 
I was planning to turn the PC off before removing them as well...
 
@r.tanner.f Probably, but I don't have any eSATA devices anyway. :P I have a hot-swap bay for 2.5" SATA HDDs but I didn't even try it on that.
 
9:41 PM
I bought an old Dell file server in college for the specific purpose of hot swapping drives. =D I had no other use for it than to sit there and pull drives out and watch it not BSOD. Worth every penny.
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you're the kind of guy who belongs in SU, @r.tanner.f
like, literally inside the site
we need to upload your brain to SU
 
Random off-topic, this really intrigues me: williamkwolfrum.com/2008/09/25/…
 
I honestly don't know what I'd do without Root Access and SU. You guys help me learn so much, and verify and reinforce what I already know, and I find the most interesting links here and really enjoy hanging out with people with common interests. I love you guys.
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This is what it must be like to have a vibrant college social life with other people within your major...
(NB: my college social life was nonexistent)
 
@allquixotic Are you at a frat house getting drunk? Or do you really love us, even when sober?
 
9:49 PM
@Luke I'm 100% sober, unless you count caffeine and popcorn
 
I don't count those, but I'm sure the drug police do... Somehow...
shifty eyes
 
are you guys able to access this site?
 
Too many server redirects
 
not redirecting properly == probably an infinite redirect loop
 
Grr...
 
9:51 PM
/foo.html is redirecting to /foo.html (not that particular endpoint, but something)
 
ok thanks
 
run wireshark or webscarab or burp and see what it's redirecting to
gotta look at the http response from the server
 
@allquixotic Caffeinated popcorn
 
@BenBrocka we're going to go into business together, and we're going to make billions of dollars... when do we start?
the perfect movie theater treat for when your wife insists on watching a chick flick: keeps you awake AND tastes like fat and salt. it's ... CAFFEINATED MOVIE POPCORN WITH LOADS OF SALTY BUTTER STUFF!
 
9:55 PM
there goes our business venture
 
@allquixotic I rather like sleeping through the movies that my wife forces me to watch and I don't want to
 
/me files for bankruptcy
@KronoS how many nights do you get to sleep on the sofa if you snore during "her movie"? wait -- don't answer that
 
Grr.. Wireshark doesn't work on Win 8
 
@KronoS, just use Burp or WebScarab; you don't need wireshark for this
driverless... just a simple http proxy
 
Hey, why can my SGS1 record video at a higher resolution than my SGS2?!
Scandalous
 
9:58 PM
just intercept the http requests and examine them at the application layer... that's what an http proxy does
 
Ah theres' the culprit: ErrorPage.aspx
 
relationships with human beings don't work for me. I go on ~300-night stands with a smartphone and/or laptop (yes, bigamous) for a wife. Works.
speaking of scandalous... how does your SGS1 like it that you found a new "friend" to play around with who you proudly proclaim is an "upgrade" to her
 

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