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3:00 PM
Eh, I could beg, but I'd rather only get votes if the post is worth it
Also, I'd really like to see a different answer than no =D
 
So it sounds like they've locked down SMS unless it's on a handset and built by a carrier? :(
Way to drop the ball MS...
 
Indeed. I would have thought MS would have realized the appeal of iMessage and would field a competitor. =/
 
Bob
Congrats to @SLaks on level 4
 
Why does it take a full 2 mins for Win 8 to tell me that my password is incorrect?
Ugh... so frustrating
 
Bob
same on Windows 7, at least the first attempt
 
3:05 PM
@Bob I wonder why that is... Must be something with network connection I bet
 
@KronoS On a domain?
 
@r.tanner.f nope... but I imagine the fact that I'm connected to a live account that it's the same thing
 
@KronoS Oh geez I forgot about that...
 
Bob
@KronoS I've experienced the same with local Win7 accounts
 
Ya...
 
3:07 PM
I've only been using local accounts
 
@Bob :/ Hmm... then I may be wrong
 
Bob
@KronoS Obviously network connectivity could be a factor; just saying it's not necessarily the reason
 
@Bob It's just frustrating that's all...
 
Bob
o.O
The Surface RT only does up to 5 points multitouch
 
Does anyone know if humidity alone could cause the WiFi chipset in a smartphone to go "bad" and become extremely slow (about 500 - 1000 Kbps)? It was good when I first got my phone but I've had it a few weeks now and it always transmits at a depressingly low throughput...
 
Bob
3:10 PM
bit of a weird restriction; I've seen lower end smartphones with rather tiny screens handle 10
 
@Bob do you really want more?
 
The LTE, screen, charging, bluetooth, etc. are all perfectly fine and I've never directly touched it to a body of water
 
@Bob Are you one of those 6 fingered people?
 
Bob
more could be useful on a tablet
ex. two player games
 
@Bob what would you use more than 2 fingers at a time for on a touchscreen? letting your toddler finger paint?
 
Bob
3:11 PM
fruit ninja on an iPad could make use of a whole lot of touch points, IIRC
and the Pro supports up to 10
 
two player games on a single device? Srsly?
 
Bob
@allquixotic yes. they exist.
 
o_O
 
@allquixotic could be fun. I'd play a lot of those with my 3 yr old
 
Bob
not sure how popular/playable they are (don't own a tablet), but I can see board games (chess?) doing that
not much that would require multitouch though
just interesting that the RT is restricted to 5
 
3:13 PM
@r.tanner.f oh, okay. I don't even have a 0 year old, so I don't know. The only people I come into contact with IRL would never come close enough to play a 2-player game with me. Why do you think I play multiplayer online games?!?!?
 
Bob
you'd think the hardware wouldn't really be an issue
 
@Bob perhaps not, unless the regular Surface has a cheaper touchscreen... OR Microsoft is just artificially limiting stuff again (hello, TCP listen sockets on older client OSes) to make their top-end products look good
 
@allquixotic xD Yeah for your typical gamers it's a no go, but for the general ipad using public it could make perfect sense
 
Bob
@r.tanner.f board games
chess
monopoly
uhh
 
UNO!
 
Bob
3:15 PM
I actually don't know many :P
that would not work.
 
oh ya...
 
Bob
remember, everyone can see the screen
 
Bob
xD
 
dude. dude. cards on iphones and table on ipad.
 
Bob
3:16 PM
lol
that would be interesting
 
no-way-to-cheat poker =D
 
Bob
@allquixotic could be a cheaper screen
the Pro has a 1920z1080 resolution
RT is only 1366x768 in comparison
 
we need to see a production release of the Surface Pro and have a professional hardware site do a teardown of the parts and see if the Surface and Surface Pro have a different touchscreen part
most likely Microsoft is buying their touchscreens from a third party (likely Chinese or Taiwanese) manufacturer, and if they can identify the part number, they can get the detailed specs from them
 
Bob
RT only comes with USB 2, Pro comes with USB 3 as well o.O
 
@TomWijsman no idea, but I assume the win8 contest was a replacement for it this year
 
Bob
3:18 PM
first time I've actually looked at the specs
bleh
 
@Bob that's because I'm not aware of any ARM SoC that actually supports USB 3 at this time
but the Ivy Bridge based processors in the Surface Pro support it natively
on-die
 
@allquixotic: the one in the new chromebook does ;p
 
I stand corrected >_>
 
I think its a new generation exynos
 
Bob
ah, the whole minimising parts thing
 
3:21 PM
this is a pretty interesting time as far as hardware goes
 
Aye
 
(as long as the desktop dosen't get killed off)
 
To bad so many HW decisions get based on marketing
 
@Hennes: we're back to two completing processor arches, and there's some interesting cheap systems out there
 
ffs Citrix: y u no make working client?
 
3:24 PM
Hmm, side question:
Does anyone here know a source of cheap second generation 3way opterons?
Those starting with 28xx .
 
@Hennes how many are we talking about here? one? two? a thousand?
 
I can find some on ebay, but the shipping costs are always high
four
 
hmm
you're in europe, right?
 
It is a motherboard with room with for 4 CPUs (or 8 CPUs if you add an extra daughterboard)
nod
At the moment it contains two 8214's (95 Watt TPD, no idea if they are revision F2 or F3
 
ok... I honestly have no idea where to go to get good shipping in Europe, although my first guess would be to suggest that you try a place that you know is geographically located nearby -- near enough for a ground based delivery (mail)
 
3:26 PM
None found in the last week. Well, none with 4 CPUs
 
buying from America or China will be prohibitively expensive to have it shipped all that way
does Amazon have a warehouse near you?
 
I almost bough 2 CPUs (for 1 EUR each) and about $30 for local shipping
New CPU (US based) can be found as cheap as 9 US $, ( EUR 9)
No.
 
hmm.. okay I don't know then :P
 
Amazon.de is secretly amazon.co.uk
 
ahh
 
3:28 PM
Amazon.nl resolves, but redirects. And is usually more expensive than amazon.de
If was a wild shot anyway
Still if anyone learns of some cheaop8210EE's, please do tell me :)
Hmm
I jusrt realised another difference between intel and amd
intel EE is extreme edition (performance++, power use++++)
AMD EE is extreme low power.
 
heh, ironic
 
And HE for high efficient normal low power
and SE for the fast one
 
Intel has ULV and LV for ultra-low and low-voltage
 
Their TDP definitions also differ.
nod
 
definitely power use++++++++ for the "X" (extreme) Intel CPUs
 
3:32 PM
Now of olnly Intel and AMD (CPU wise) and Intel, AMD and Nvidia could get some sane naming standard and stick to it
 
but sane naming standards would mean that we couldn't directly compare two processors of different make/model by determining which one has bigger numbers! ;-D
obviously a HD7970 is better than a mere GTX 680
 
Just add a generation prefix :)
Aye, because the HD7970 firm does more opensource releases
 
also, it's funny that AMD has a HD4000 series of GPUs which is quite old and Intel's latest generation of GMA is also called HD4000 but the numbers don't change like they do for Radeons
but perhaps not so funny is that Intel's new HD4000 is about the same speed as a middle or high-end Radeon HD4000 :)
 
I did like the old numbering. ABCD, A is generation B is performace class (7 high end, 5 mid level, 3 ntry),
 
Bob
@Hennes and CD is...? :P
 
3:35 PM
I like AMD's current graphics card nomenclature, minus HD
 
00 at release
AMD's -M annoys me
 
it should just be A = generation, B = scale/performance class, C = stepping/clock rate
 
Bob
@allquixotic I don't understand it. Not that I've ever tried.
 
5750 and 5770 are clear, as was 5850 and 5870
 
so that if AB are equal, then any change in C only changes the clock rates
 
3:36 PM
But the 5870M (mobile) is half the power
 
and if A is equal, then any change in B only changes the TDP, amount of VRAM, and number of cores
trying to compare the desktop to the mobile chipsets is apples to oranges though
 
Holy mother!
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Same with nvidia cards BTW, marketing technical named after the just realsed main power chips. And about half the speed of a desktop card (and half the power used)
 
New VirtualBox interop features!
 
you can't fit a full scale 5870 within the power budget of a laptop form factor because of the battery's limited voltage
 
Bob
3:37 PM
@OliverSalzburg wait which version?!
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, was joking. It differs by a month so I guess that's the case.
 
@OliverSalzburg Whoa, when did that arrive?
 
@OliverSalzburg tried it; works between Linux and Windows
 
@Bob Just updted
 
Bob
does it work cross OSes?
@allquixotic :D
 
3:37 PM
@allquixotic So, just add three power bricks. Just like clevo did
 
drag from Windows Explorer into Nautilus
weirdest thing I've ever done
 
Bob
lol
 
@allquixotic That makes me feel all warm and tingly.
 
@r.tanner.f it makes me feel like a traitor
 
Bob
3:38 PM
definitely much neater than shared folders, though
hmm
I'm still on 4.1.20 o.O
 
@Bob I haven't tested yet.
 
also, dragging from Windows Explorer into Nautilus (or vice versa) makes me want to scream "NO!!!!!!!!!!!! THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HEAH! THIS FAR! NO FURTHER!"
 
I first want to check the new guest additions in Win8
Most important change yet:
Look at that gradient!!!
 
... cosmetics is important ?
cosmetics in the UI ?
 
Sweet, the new Direct3D driver seems to work
 
3:41 PM
@Hennes I kinda got screwed by Nvidia/Lenovo when I bought my new laptop
 
Transparent task bar :D
 
just got it a handful of months ago, and it came with a nice-sounding Nvidia NVS 5400M
...but it's Fermi, and Kepler's been out for months
it was the highest-end GPU available on the unit, too
but if I had bought the "W" series instead of the "T" series I'd have gotten a K2000M
 
Oh my...
 
which is way better
 
Just noticed I didn't use the share link when advertising one of my posts, lol.
 
3:43 PM
it might be the last laptop I buy, too
 
Bah, 1920 should be x1200
1200 vertical space is needed if you want to be able to browse the web
 
@Hennes agreed. 16:10 for the win
 
My screen are 1920x1200 (IPS), 1920x1200 (TN, bah, really noticeable) and 1280x1024 (4:3)
First laptop I ever bought had 1400x1050. And that was an ancient P3 with the just new released OS called XP
At the time I did not realise that is was a DESKTOP P3 in a laptop.
So batterylife was really poor
 
/had no idea his company sold Cuban cigars
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The more I read about Jeff Atwood, the more I realize I'm just like him, except I've never worked for Microsoft.
 
3:53 PM
> Added experimental support for Drag'n'drop from the host to Linux guests. Support for more guests and for guest-to-host is planned.
I guess that's why it doesn't work for me :D
 
Which OS did you use? BSD ?
 
@Hennes Windows
As both guest and host
 
4:28 PM
OK, I have another question regarding my printer.
I recently uninstalled all the HP printer software for my C4580 printer. It still prints fine from my computer, however will not scan via Windows Fax and Scan. I did the same thing on another computer, however it will allow it still to scan. The error I am receiving is "No scanners were detected..." However the printer does show up as a scanner in the Devices and Printers section of Control Panel.
 
Odd
 
@njallam Version of Windows?
 
@r.tanner.f Windows 7
It's a network printer running via the host computer and the host computer can still work fine without the drivers.
 
Is the host computer the same version of windows as the client?
 
@corwin01 yes
 
4:38 PM
@njallam Running via the host computer? So it's shared?
 
@r.tanner.f yes
 
Connected via USB or ethernet?
 
Connected to host via USB. Both client and host and connected to a router via ethernet.
 
Is the host powered on?
 
yes
I can print but not scan
 
4:41 PM
Firewall on?
 
argh I can't remember if the client will be using its own drivers or just handing stuff off to the host
 
Bob
Did scanning work before you uninstalled the vendor software?
 
Both had full HP drivers installed, both had them uninstalled in theory leaving behind the bare essential drivers.
I'm pretty sure the problem isn't network related. It is probably a corrupt driver issue on the client
The printer is also connected via Wi-Fi to the router, however as of late is no longer detected by windows and now I have to print via host. If I could access the Wi-Fi version of the printer, I could probably scan again.
Maybe uninstalling drivers on host removed the printer's Wi-Fi settings?
 
@njallam Yeah there's something wrong with the drivers here.
The one that's hooked to it via USB is working tip-top? 100%? Scan + print and all the multifunction horrors?
 
4:48 PM
@r.tanner.f yes
 
And the one that's trying to use it over a network won't do anything?
 
crap, contest ends in three days, can I have some upvotes pleeezzz superuser.com/a/498931/71027
 
@r.tanner.f It can print but it isn't detected as a scanner
 
@HackToHell Return the favor and insulate me from strategic downvotes? =D
@HackToHell Oh sweet you got your permissions figured out
 
@r.tanner.f ok :) I too got several downvotes
@r.tanner.f :)
 
4:51 PM
Is there any way that I can change the printe... oh wait, gimme a sec
 
@HackToHell I tossed you some too
 
Thanks, it's at 3 upvotes now ♥
 
Have people been downvoting to deny contest prizes?
@HackToHell check out mine. Hopefully give me a better answer =D superuser.com/questions/tagged/…
 
I can't believe I'm relying on my netbook to solve this problem...
 
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4:54 PM
lol
 
@slhck I was going to delete it myself, you are too fast :p
 
I'm trying to connect to hpsetup to reconfigure the WiFi settings but I seem to be unable to connect to the Default Gateway (printer)
What was that!?
a herp derp clippy just appeared
 
@njallam xD love teh clippy! He's just trying to help.
 
:P
Anyway, I found out something
 
@njallam default gateway? shouldn't that be your router?
 
5:02 PM
Windows lied, the default gateway was 0.0.0.0 not 192.168.0.1
@r.tanner.f I'm connecting AdHoc to the printer on my other computer
Which apparently doesn't work either...
 
@njallam Oh, yeah that's probably not helping your situation...
 
@r.tanner.f I'm reconfigureing the printer to use WiFi again because that's how it was running (and working) a while ago
Is there a HP utility to change the printer's WiFi settings without installing the printer software?
Don't you dare appear Clippy...
 
@njallam If you could get your printer on a cable to the router I think that would be ideal. Not for any hard technical reasons, just to eliminate one point of failure...
Consumer WiFi to an HP multifunction printer sounds like a disaster =D
 
@r.tanner.f "Consumer WiFi ... sounds like a disaster =D" FTFY
 
I have a newer wifi HP printerand I've yet to have any problems with it. Guess I just got lucky =D
 
5:08 PM
or you have thick walls in your house preventing the myriad interference sources from making wifi unusable for you
(and no windows)
 
Or my wifi printer is sitting 3 feet away from both computers that mainl use it, lol
I had to use a powerline networking kit to get internet to the upstairs tv for netflix
 
the cheapest wifi infrastructure i could possibly recommend is this: cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11983/index.html
Cisco "just cusswording works" (note: NOT Linksys by Cisco; they are crap)
 
Linksys really went downhill after they got bought out
 
@allquixotic They (Linksys) used to be so awesome :(
 
agreed
 
5:11 PM
they run for about a thousand bucks (if it's genuine; there is a lot of Chinese-made Cisco counterfeit equipment out there with Linksys or Netgear hardware)
@r.tanner.f they were really bad before they got bought, IMHO
 
The problem is the printer does not know the Wifi details to get on my main network because something reset them. I'm trying to put them back on.
 
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 I'll roll with this for consumer grade all day long. Never had one fail me with DD-WRT on it...
 
Re HP printers: I never hd one which did not have problems
 
you just can't make cheap wireless hardware that works in all environments, properly compensates for interference, properly controls its transmission gain, and has properly designed passive features to maximize SNR
 
found an awesome photo of my cat :P
 
5:13 PM
@HackToHell same kitty as your gravatar?
 
yep
 
hehehehe
kitties <3
 
ignore the background
 
@r.tanner.f actually I've heard lots of good things about the "good old" Linksys wifi routers, but they of course don't support 802.11n :P
the closest thing I've come across in recent years is using a fairly expensive ($189-$200 range) consumer-grade router with 5 GHz 802.11n -- in the absence of hardware that actually works, 5 GHz is the best you're gonna get, if your devices support it
problem is, I have a tablet, a smartphone, and a SoC stick (Cotton Candy) that don't work with 5 GHz
I've given up on wireless entirely... my phone can only push 500 - 1000 Kbps over 2.4 GHz 802.11n in infrastructure mode, even though it can directly download over 15000 Kbps from its uplink
even bluetooth 2.0 PAN works better
 
@allquixotic Meh, for the price of a PoS Wireless-N 5ghz consumer grade router I can build half an army of WRT-54Gs and blanket an area in WDS :P
When I find a wireless-N router that runs custom firmware as well as the WRT-54G that will be my new standard, but until then I'm hanging on to my WRT-54Gs for dear life.
 
5:18 PM
@r.tanner.f there's actually a Netgear router that comes with some mechanism to flash the firmware and it's compatible with CeroWRT/OpenWRT
i was eyeing it a few days ago but forgot to buy it
 
Although since I got 4G (and somehow dodged the loss of unlimited data) WiFi has gone unloved.
 
it's dual band 802.11n (final standard not draft)
 
I've been wanting to try this one: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162031
It's straight up preloaded with DD-WRT
WHOOAA when did that price drop?
 
@r.tanner.f that might be the same ASIC as this one: netgear.com/home/products/wirelessrouters/high-performance/…
 
...wonder if the wife would notice if I ordered a few ¬_¬
 
5:20 PM
it's called an N300 in netgear terms too...
probably a clone or the same hardware
 
Are Buffalo and Netgear somehow affiliated?
 
the reason i want one of those is, you plug your phone's wired USB into the router and the router can share the RNDIS on the wireless
requires custom firmware with root but hey, if you're flashing the firmware you have no problem with that
 
Yeah, I'd like to have a backup plan in place. The house is scary with no Internet... People get cranky.
 
we got rid of our DSL entirely :P
 
DSL is useless.
 
5:22 PM
I have an ASUS WGL520 that was super easy to flash to DDWRT
 
i'll take a picture of my setup once i get it fully up and running and show you
phone sitting on my desk in a Wilson Electronics cradle connected to a 1.6 dB gain antenna sitting in the windowsill
router with CeroWRT firmware using fair queue controlled delay active queue management
phone connected to router over usb and usb split for power from wall wart (doubt router has enough juice to power it)
CeroWRT custom kernel compiled with rndis support because I guarantee it won't work out of the box
result: 2 * DSL speed over LTE, with devices connecting over wifi and sharing bandwidth gracefully due to fq_codel
 
only 2x DSL speed over LTE?
 
if DSL is 7 Mbps, LTE averages around 14, so yeah
i can sometimes peak 20 Mbps but that's not sustained
realistically, 12 Mbps is sustainable over a long period, with spikes into the 14 - 16 range
it also has mini dropouts from time to time, but the dropouts aren't long enough to cause a TCP socket closure usually, so i don't get http errors or get dropped from online games... just a little 2-3 second burp
 
Thats some really fast DSL, actually
 
not nearly as bad as the DSL modem resetting itself
@corwin01 7 Mbps DSL is standard around here, but when we were using ours, the modem would regularly lose signal when running at that rate and automatically fall back to a slower mode for better stability
and even at 4 - 5 Mbps it'd very frequently just decide to drop the PPP link entirely
 
5:27 PM
@corwin01 Hell I was lucky to get 2.4 Mbps (300 kBps)
LTE I get 1.4 MBps
 
ah. I really stopped paying attention to DSL entirely a long time ago, as it was never even close in speed to Cable where I am
 
.1 MBps below my cable connection
 
not bad
 
I grew up during the unreliable dialup days; we used the unreliable first-generation cable (coax, DOCSIS 1.x, etc) from Comcast; then we used the unreliable first, second, and third-generation DSL from Verizon; now the entire house uses LTE exclusively
 
I feel lucky having a 20 Mbit cable connection
 
5:29 PM
it's not as reliable as fiber or good cable, but we have neither as options
you are rather lucky to have 20 Mbps cable... Maryland is basically a third world country
downloading a 700 MB Linux ISO is a significant time investment for me
about 45 minutes on LTE
 
I remember connecting at 53.3k back in the day and thinking it was fast (compared to friends who would only connect at 33.3)
 
it's a method of population control, really -- when there are so many possibilities to what you can do with uncapped high bandwidth uplinks, and those possibilities can lead to prosperity, job opportunities, fame, and so on -- preventing citizens from getting access to that is a way to keep them dependent on you
 
Are there any color conventions for IDEs?
 
I think it's absolutely intentional that the US as a whole has extremely horrid internet
 
@allquixotic I feel like the progression of technology here is intentionally slowed so they can squeeze every last little red cent out of us.
 
5:31 PM
that too
 
There are numerous factors, a good part of which is Telcos squeezing every last drop out of us
 
@r.tanner.f there are no general / overall color conventions if you're referring to syntax highlighting or whatever
they vary from IDE to IDE, obviously
 
another part is the sheer size of the country
just pick something that you like and thats easy on the eyes
 
@allquixotic Okay. I'm trying to set up PowerShell ISE for Solarized, might throw a file out there for anyone who wants to theme it too so I'd like to do it "right" lol. Also I'm not a developer so...
 
@corwin01 sheer size is not as important as the population density
 
5:33 PM
True, but they affect each other
 
highly population-dense areas are a no-brainer (for any country) for hooking up the latest in advanced landline technology, whatever that may be
 
Great size allows for more spread out, less dense, communities
 
and indeed, in inner cities here you can often get extremely fast WiMax or metropolis WiFi or FTTP
but if you live even a few miles out of town, forget it
 
WiMax... as a Sprint customer, thats a curse word
 
heheh
we actually wanted WiMax when our city was in their pilot program, because it sounded so fast, but it never came out my way
 
5:35 PM
ah
WiMax (when I could get a connection) basically puts me on par with other networks 3G
 
it had pretty lofty speed claims but I don't think it ever really lived up to them
it's basically a physics problem as I understand it -- the frequency band it uses is too high, and RF oscillating at that high a frequency is more easily stopped by solid objects
there is a "sweet spot" that's high enough frequency to carry long distances but low enough frequency to penetrate buildings, and the 700-ish MHz LTE band is basically the frequency to use for wireless communications
 
yea
 
I get pretty good LTE in my basement
and inside large malls
 
I will settle for good consistent 3G data
jumping ship to a t-mobile prepaid as soon as my contract ends
 
5:57 PM
So...
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Q: How do I enable an auto download of newly installed Metro Apps?

KronoSI have multiple devices running Windows 8, and would like to sync up the apps that I install on one between the others. Is there a way to enable auto download and installation of apps purchased within Metro Store?

I have this bounty, which doesn't answer what I was looking for.
not sure what to do here...
 
None of those answers are worthy =\
 

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