are channels being tested :O

I would post a FR on meta, but it doesn't fit the expected usecase (small business)

@angussidney I imagine you've seen this? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/364383/1873567

@CalvT븃 nope, but it's a different user

More importantly

Awesome

I'm still catching up with all the stuff that's happening, I've still got to read the transcript for today and I haven't even got to channels yet :P

@doppelgreener aye stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal

Ooh!

that's cool

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: What cryptography primitives/concepts, other than the basic ones, does Monero use? by 山太郎 on monero.SE

naa- by CalvT븃

google translate result ^

@doppelgreener see also the top starred message on the right

@tripleee oh i missed that. thanks :)

me too, I don't really see the stars at this window size (so many intriguing tags in the room description)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question by Stacey Wyatt on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by CalvT븃

@ArtOfCode No dice on signing up to the channel with a gmail address. Can I get spacemonaut@charcoal-se.org?

are the other domains disabled now?

ok

ruby is starting to corrupt me

why have you done this to me Art

I just found myself typing json.parse instead of json.loads and doing if parsed['items'] instead of if 'items' in parsed

gahhhh

I updated the wiki page on the assumption that gmail etc are now disabled

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 95ca981: The Travis CI build passed

ok honest question here

are there Triage review bots that just always say "requires editing"

because you can have the best formatted question there is and there'll always be one person who reviews with "Requires Editing"

it's kinda weird

people should learn to love the Skip button but the way it is now, doing what you describe is probably a good heuristic for reaching a particular badge which some people covet

peoples' thoughts vary on what needs editing and why and what's worth pushing the button for; also, confirmation bias & not seeing the 999 reviews where nobody pushed the button

there should be a badge for pressing the Skip button 10,000 times -- voila, problem solved

@doppelgreener I'm talking about when an item is fully categorized and it shows you the consensus

Triage, particularly "requires editing", and H&I have been broken from the beginning. SE has, effectively, refused to put out even a modicum of effort to reduce the breakage.

I think the trouble is "requires editing" is super weak

like does it mean formatting

or are there missing details

I generally put questions that are missing details as unsalvageable (it is a close reason...) but I seem to be in a minority for that

And who does it require editing from? The OP or some random user on SO?

a mean audit would ask you to actually edit but that would lose even more of the people who hesitantly volunteer to look at stuff

The first problem with "requires editing" is that the text describing it says that it includes the need for the author to edit, not just the community.

@Makyen yeah that's what I mean

if it requires editing from the OP that's different

it should be put on hold (there's a reason why it's initially that, before going to closed)

it could say "well show us what you would change if you were the OP" but just log and not actually execute those edits

in the very small fraction of cases where somebody actually completed that you could get some useful signal to pass to the OP

but again, I imagine it will simply cause the review rate to plummet

@quartata Needing the author to edit is "unsalvageable", which is really close/flag. While changing the text to clearly say the difference won't fix all the problems, it would certainly help.

and of course the opportunity to put stuff which doesn't belong there is pretty much an invitation to abuse it

"hello, I see you like xxCENSOREDxx" -- Wingd?ng

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Mega-Menu dropdown doesn't display on hover? by Mitch Medina on magento.SE

@quartata There's a 2 year old FR to change the description of "Requires Editing", but SE hasn't bothered to spend the small amount of time to make such a minor change to text. [Every time I'm reminded about it, it just reinforces that SE really doesn't care about the state of their product, or their user's time.]

I disagree on both counts

that is, it's not minor -- it's a fundamental difference in what it means

they're not just going to copy and paste the proposed text

naa- by tripleee

and as a result I think the fact that they didn't just go for the easy route is more indicative of them caring about the logistics than not

@quartata By "minor", I mean that it takes a minor amount of dev-time to change the text. It's not implementing a new feature. It's only changing text. I agree that it's not a minor issue, just that it takes a small amount of effort to fix it.

@ArtOfCode you know how SE OAuth works right?

/oauth/access_token takes it form encoded right

@quartata The current text doesn't reflect what they want done in the queue. If people do what the current text directs them to do, then users will fail audits and the review queues will be broken (questions will bounce infinitely between triage and H&I). Sure, there's a whole bunch of stuff which they could do in that area which would improve things, but choosing (for 2 years) not to make an easy change which would improve the situation reflects negatively upon them.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Buying big amounts of Bitcoin for cash in person by Denko on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by tripleee

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is there a list of active monero full nodes? by joel on monero.SE

tpu- by tripleee

Conflicting feedback on Is there a list of active monero full nodes?.

@SmokeDetector Checked the user's history and they have accounts with rep on other sites. Doesn't seem to be a spammer.

@gparyani doesn't answer the question at all though

@SmokeDetector naa-

@tripleee There's an option for that

oh fun I get to do frontend

how do I get my own charcoal email?

me right now trying to do frontend

@micsthepick Talk to @ArtOfCode

well I got to say

Yarn is way faster than NPM is

so that's nice

is it just Art@[cse].org?

He'll probably respond faster to a ping than an email

well, he has been pinged

i'm tempted to try and setup a MS dev instance just for kicks :P

@ThomasWard feel free, but don't expect to make it out alive :P

@angussidney i'm already 30% dead, 20% alive, and 50% scar tissue from failed development things. There's not much left to kill in me :P

though the interesting part is this is going to be in an LXD container, so if I end up with a working instance, yay for a snapshot/image that's shareable.

I'm having a look at updating our Circle config now

I can parallelise it and shave about 15s (10%) off our build time, do you think it's worth the additional complexity?

xkcd: Is It Worth the Time?

@Makyen thanks, XKCD relevant as always :P

I can spend (roughly) up to 2 hours on this to benefit us in a year

Restart: API quota is 9432.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question by Stacey Wyatt on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@angussidney We have to move to Circle CI 2.0 anyway, right?

Yeah

Seems like parallel would be simpler, actually - no chance of state from one test leaking over to another.

I'm going to put flake tests in one container, and pytest in another

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Why is this error appearing in chrome load resource: net::ERR_QUIC_PROTOCOL_ERROR by Penelope Watson on stackoverflow.com

@angussidney Sounds good to me

@Undo It was nearly 2 AM in the UK at the time of your ping

Pretty standard.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: harder you prepare more grounded by Sgf bmj on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Is he usually awake at 02:00, @Undo?

Nope

Unlike me... I don't sleep

Do we want to use a jessie or stretch-based system for our builds?

Pinged Catija to see if she also has one, and apparently not

@angussidney Just different Debian versions, right?

Yeah

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Generalized Random Response for local differential privacy implementation by 陈逸轩 on stackoverflow.com

Shouldn't make a difference

Usually I'd say to go with the newest thing, until you hit a thing that requires the older version

I'll go with stretch since it's newer

@micsthepick github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Channels-Beta

tl;dr email ArtOfCode

I'd do it, but I don't have access to those email controls.

... actually, let's just do this

@gparyani I'm going to verify my domain, then I'll just forward you a signup link

@gparyani Sign up with gparyani@erwaysoftware.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to recover data from a mac that crash on login? by Toni A Blair on apple.SE

@Undo Any chance of my being able to receive email from that address? :)

fp- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

pretty good

@gparyani stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/join/…

Theoretically... we could make metasmoke learn how to receive email and do this automatically. That'd be cool

oops

I clicked on that without knowing what it was

hopefully that didn't ruin it

>.>

sorry

Looks like it worked

NO CLICKING QUARTATA

like I'm going to fall for that

I'd be interested in seeing SO for Teams as a Piazza competitor

naa- by Makyen on Generalized Random Response for local differential privacy implementation [MS]

Does anyone know if SE OAuth automatically allows localhost as a redirect domain?

Not automatically, no @quartata

At least from what I've found. I've typically used fiddler to handle that

Actually disregard. In my testing, it's been localhost with a non-80 port. So it may allow plain old 'localhost'

Well I probably will be on 8000 since I have Apache on 80 obviously

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: MORE INFO @>> healthexpertproduct.com/nitronemax/ by TapuLazlu on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

hrm I guess I'll just deploy to test then

@quartata If you're on windows.. easiest way is just to use fiddler to map [xyz] to localhost:8000

looks like fiddler has an OS X version

means I gotta go get Mono though, looks like it doesn't do .NET Core

Um... is FIRE broken?

Is it?

yeah because MS is down

I'm playing with DNS, so it could very well be

Every time I hover over the fire logo it says "could not be loaded".

... huh. Interesting.

metasmoke.charcoal-se.org works

Better now?

(give it a few minutes to propagate)

tbh If it wasn't for all the link rot it'd cause I'd be totally in favor of dumping the erwaysoftware one

@Undo can you do me a favour? I'm on windows and can't use SSH (at least not easily)

Have a look at the SSH info at the bottom of circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17232

@Undo Seems so.

It says that you should use the same key that you use to SSH into GH

permission denied, publickey

won't know to use that key probably

@quartata I just tried all my keys. They don't work :P

Maybe you should trigger a rebuild?

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 85c3b5e: Your tests failed on CircleCI

fp by gparyani on How to recover data from a mac that crash on login? [MS]

It could be waiting for a key related to me specifically, since I requested a build with SSH enabled

tpu by gparyani on BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question [MS]

@angussidney SSH works in Powershell - I use it all the time to get into metasmoke

It's not that - I only have my keys in Linux and I'm too lazy to reboot to transfer them :P

Dont let me bother you any longer, I'll find a way

Triggered a rebuild

There we go. What are you looking for @angussidney?

which python3

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on a27e6c9: Your tests failed on CircleCI

circleci@7a3bd1f71308:~$ which python3
/usr/local/bin/python3

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on ab83ca8: Your tests failed on CircleCI

That would explain it

For some reason the venv/bin/activate command didn't carry between steps

No idea why though, considering that it would be a simple 'run these commands in order' system

Thanks @Undo

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 0e920d2: Your tests failed on CircleCI

Yep

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 2cefa5f: Your tests failed on CircleCI

Wow, I'm dumb

I'm using flake8 on flake8's code

I think

No, I am running it on everything

Why is flake8 testing everything in the virtualenv?

I give up, for now at least

On the upside, I've halved our build time

On the downside, it's not working

What happened here?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus/ by CarrieMunoz on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.healthsupplementsreviews.info/vivrax/ by Melissacampbell on askubuntu.com

sd 2k

@gparyani what do you mean by 'here'?

@angussidney That made you give up? What's the tl;dr?

Basically, flake8 (our linter) is testing itself (and ironically, throwing a million errors)

venv/bin/python3 -m flake8 ./ is testing things in ./venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/

If the ./ picks up all files in the directory, why hasn't it failed on our old config before?

But if ./ is scoped to venv/bin/, why is it picking up stuff in ./venv/lib/ ?

some day I'll learn how to use this thing, sorry :)

!!/report puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/61679/…

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast by hioroexsrws on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

thanks @Catija

Sure :D

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/androdna/ by stevehalex on english.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Weight Loss - Now Don't Quit At The Moment! by robernldsan on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by angussidney on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/androdna/ [MS]

tpu- by angussidney

API quota rolled over with 8822 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

@Rubio how long was that alive before you reported it? I'm curious as to whether Smokey would have picked it up

!!/test slimbodyketone.co.uk/testoram/

Not positive, but at least 11 minutes

...yep, you just ninja'd Smokey

!!/queuestatus

sd del-force

post 04:33:00Z

so almost 15 minutes had gone by. I thought Smokey detected quicker than that.

Yeah

Here's why it may have been delayed:

SD watches the feed at stackexchange.com/questions?tab=realtime for new questions

Because we don't have enough API quota to check every single post individually, we wait until a few posts have come in from one site (usually 2) before fetching them from the API

ah. interestingly, we had two spam posts more or less back to back - that was the second one

the first had a link to evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus and was posted at 04:25:43Z

@SmokeDetector this one was detected very soon after you reported one of them

So it's possible that you beat Smokey by a few seconds

@Rubio this spammer tends to do that - post two in quick succession

that wasn't triggered by Catija's !!report?

@SmokeDetector this one was triggered by Catija's report

@SmokeDetector not this one

@angussidney oh. weird

@SmokeDetector This was the one at 04:25:43Z

tpu- by Makyen on 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast [MS]

@SmokeDetector This one came last, so we got a trifecta

The middle one is the one that didn't get noticed - or, anyway, that got batched and thus got ninjad

!!/report codereview.stackexchange.com/a/189248

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future by douglas obina on codereview.SE

@angussidney @quartata could I trouble you to take a look at this?

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17239

link to the circle.yml?

tpu- by Makyen

@quartata github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/circle-config/…

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ by Adlahite on drupal.SE

add pwd first and rerun the build

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future by douglas obina on codereview.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future by douglas obina on codereview.SE

actually

don't even do that

try it with --exclude .virtualenv

@quartata ...too late

Or whatever it names it

Maybe do an ls if you can ssh in

@quartata the thing that I'm wondering is why haven't we run into this error before?

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17241

because we never use virtualenv

I'm sure that it plops all the modules in the same directory and they get scanned

@quartata I was under the impression that Circle 1.0 added a virtualenv by default

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17226

> Using cached venv

If it does it probably kept the envs in the home directory

do an ls -a to see what's in the project folder

Aah, that would make sense

I'm sure there's something

Another question.... why aren't ./test/ and ./classes/ also being scanned by the main flake check? If so, they'd also throw errors (which is why our tox settings for them are less strict IIRC)

They're excluded in the normal tox.ini

@angussidney they have separate config

If we can find what the name of the venv is then we just add them to that

@quartata aah that makes sense

@quartata easy

@quartata Isn't it /home/travis/virtualenv?

@iBug he means when you run flake8 on the whole directory

env

@iBug this isn't Travis

@iBug /home/circleci/project/env

@angussidney all right then just open up the tox.ini and add in env/* I guess

I've SSHed in

well, neverchecked circle

so, when do we leave a PR alone without much discussion?

\o/ it works

Thanks

all right cool

Build times from 2:20ish to 1:26

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1699

!!/report drupal.stackexchange.com/q/257435

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: It is a fourth time and is check for refinement and movement by ThomLambo on drupal.SE

They forgot a link, but it's still spam

tpu- by suraj

tpu- by suraj on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

tpu by quartata on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

tpu by quartata on 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast [MS]

tpu- by suraj on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: In at any rate things stack up by Knook1972 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Ashish Ahuja

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: READ=>> evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus/ by MarcSchm on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by Makyen

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Illuminosity Cream Remove Your Face Wrinkles By by user804229 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Makyen

tpu by Jamal

tpu by Jamal on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

tpu by Jamal on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Omega Green Hemp Extract Reviews by lovequeen on meta.SE

tpu- by suraj

tpu by Jamal

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted user: Where do I start to debug a problem by Sgf bmj on apple.SE

apparently private beta is no longer private

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body: Rose Diamond Serum Rose Jewel Serum could be the serum by Micheaogers on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by suraj

tpu- by Makyen on Where do I start to debug a problem [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: that is the fine testosterone and male trade by Appis fordery on drupal.SE

tpu- by Makyen

hello

o/

@SurajRao For ease of signing up members, Charcoal set the domains needed for signing up to include a few/several common free email providers (e.g. gmail.com). This seemed like a good idea at the time. In reporting bugs, a few URLs to charcoal team pages were posted on meta. This made it easy for people to sign up. The significant SE UI change when belonging to a Team and no clear way to remove yourself from the team (without it looking like you destroy your SE account) causes issues.

tpu by Jamal on Where do I start to debug a problem [MS]

@Makyen for ease of signing up members because we wanted to break test the system as much as possible

hmmm I just found out that FIRE doesn't work if hardware acceleration is disabled in chrome..

@angussidney Yeah, you could look at it that way too :-)

:P

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: FloraSpring 2012, few people around the by user279407 on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs huh? How does it fail?

@PeterHaddad Hello.

@Makyen no interface at all. I disabled it because I am having issues with some video playback in the browser, and noticed that as a side effect.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs So, no response when you click the FIRE button, or no FIRE button at all?

no fire button at all

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, +3 more: Herzolex Ultra - Lose Weight Naturally And Quickly by Herzolex Ultra on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +3 more: how we use Hydrabelle? by louiseoliver on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Yoast SEO/Facebook OG: Image not displaying after fb url change by Ahmet Onur Solmaz on stackoverflow.com

naa- by Makyen

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Fever Massages Eyes, Tongue, But Should Not Libido by Lisafitz on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: What is Sitecore CMS? by chndra shekar on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: How Does Reducelant Garcinia work? by Reducelant Garcinia on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test visualpath.in/Sitecore-Course-in-hyderabad.html

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Will it ratiocinate me disoriented by Exame fordery on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: www.hairlosspropecia.org/nitridex/ by Besse1929 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: Why is console application game running slower/lagging on my laptop by John Fricke on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Tribulus Terrestris For Mans by olynhirk on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by Makyen on Why is console application game running slower/lagging on my laptop [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: This substance enables in enhancing by Stife19 Virk on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Did you do something other than disable "Use hardware acceleration when available" from the Chrome settings expanded to advanced?

What OS are you on?

@Makyen Nope. That was the only change made (I have since turned it back on). Windows 10

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I'm unable to duplicate the problem. It works fine for me with that setting disabled (and having restarted Chrome, so it takes effect).

Strange. I have tried refreshing the browser multiple times (also with Shift+F5). Closed out and reopened multiple times. All without success. Then I switched H/A back on and the button was there.

If you know anything about H/A at all, maybe you could take a look at my question superuser.com/questions/1300788/…

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body: what is elegant-garcinia? by NicolMoran on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs My experience, a couple/few years ago, using an older graphics card and Firefox was that hardware acceleration (HA) support for (some) older cards had been dropped. Basically, all rendering was done on the CPU. Older versions of Firefox did support HA for the card I had (I'd have to look up which ATI card I had). I would have expected that Chrome would drop HA prior to Firefox. You may way to try Firefox to see if it will enable HA. However, your issue with drivers may supersede that.

Yeah, I have a dislike of Firefox tbh

I would use IE before I use Firefox

That's a strong dislike. Why?

@Undo that would be cool

@angussidney yeah, it's all sorted. I can deactivate accounts

@micsthepick need an email address for you so that I can set up a forward on charcoal-se.org

@Undo should also have access to those controls

I could never really figure that out myself. Maybe I am just use to Chrome's layout. It's more of a UI thing than anything else.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: What makes the distinction here is the by dfhftjkrk on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

I don't use Chrome because it makes text look too bright and weird.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: www.healthdietalert.com/hydrabelle/ by famesame on astronomy.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

(at least on my high-DPI screen)

I generally only use Edge because it's the only browser with proper touchscreen support, and I use my computer's touchscreen quite frequently

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First time I've heard someone say they use Edge ;P

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

That's a rather ... edge usecase, though

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@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Firefox has progressively gotten more Chrome-like over the last multiple versions. If you haven't tried it moderately recently, it might be a reasonable alternative for you at this point. Everyone has their own preferences. Mine is against the UI that Chrome uses, particularly the significant lack of customization. However, now that Firefox has lost most of it's ability to be customized, there isn't nearly the strong difference there once was.

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yeah I might consider it