Charcoal HQ

doppelgreener

00:00

are channels being tested :O

angussidney

I would post a FR on meta, but it doesn't fit the expected usecase (small business)

CalvT븃

@angussidney I imagine you've seen this? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/364383/1873567

angussidney

@CalvT븃 nope, but it's a different user

CalvT븃

More importantly

Yup, you joined the Charcoal team. I can deactivate your team profile, if you want? — ArtOfCode 10 hours ago

angussidney

Awesome

I'm still catching up with all the stuff that's happening, I've still got to read the transcript for today and I haven't even got to channels yet :P

CalvT븃

00:06

@doppelgreener aye stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal

doppelgreener

Ooh!

that's cool

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: What cryptography primitives/concepts, other than the basic ones, does Monero use? by 山太郎 on monero.SE

naa- by CalvT븃

doppelgreener

> How can I get Monoro

From Japan, please introduce where you can get it safely

I would like to participate in Monoro v.

google translate result ^

tripleee

@doppelgreener see also the top starred message on the right

doppelgreener

@tripleee oh i missed that. thanks :)

tripleee

00:21

me too, I don't really see the stars at this window size (so many intriguing tags in the room description)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question by Stacey Wyatt on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by CalvT븃

doppelgreener

@ArtOfCode No dice on signing up to the channel with a gmail address. Can I get [email protected]?

tripleee

are the other domains disabled now?

quartata

ok

ruby is starting to corrupt me

why have you done this to me Art

I just found myself typing json.parse instead of json.loads and doing if parsed['items'] instead of if 'items' in parsed

gahhhh

tripleee

I updated the wiki page on the assumption that gmail etc are now disabled

SmokeDetector

00:28

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 95ca981: The Travis CI build passed

quartata

ok honest question here

are there Triage review bots that just always say "requires editing"

because you can have the best formatted question there is and there'll always be one person who reviews with "Requires Editing"

it's kinda weird

tripleee

people should learn to love the Skip button but the way it is now, doing what you describe is probably a good heuristic for reaching a particular badge which some people covet

doppelgreener

peoples' thoughts vary on what needs editing and why and what's worth pushing the button for; also, confirmation bias & not seeing the 999 reviews where nobody pushed the button

tripleee

there should be a badge for pressing the Skip button 10,000 times -- voila, problem solved

quartata

@doppelgreener I'm talking about when an item is fully categorized and it shows you the consensus

Makyen

00:39

Triage, particularly "requires editing", and H&I have been broken from the beginning. SE has, effectively, refused to put out even a modicum of effort to reduce the breakage.

quartata

I think the trouble is "requires editing" is super weak

like does it mean formatting

or are there missing details

I generally put questions that are missing details as unsalvageable (it is a close reason...) but I seem to be in a minority for that

angussidney

And who does it require editing from? The OP or some random user on SO?

tripleee

a mean audit would ask you to actually edit but that would lose even more of the people who hesitantly volunteer to look at stuff

Makyen

The first problem with "requires editing" is that the text describing it says that it includes the need for the author to edit, not just the community.

quartata

@Makyen yeah that's what I mean

if it requires editing from the OP that's different

it should be put on hold (there's a reason why it's initially that, before going to closed)

tripleee

00:42

it could say "well show us what you would change if you were the OP" but just log and not actually execute those edits

in the very small fraction of cases where somebody actually completed that you could get some useful signal to pass to the OP

but again, I imagine it will simply cause the review rate to plummet

Makyen

@quartata Needing the author to edit is "unsalvageable", which is really close/flag. While changing the text to clearly say the difference won't fix all the problems, it would certainly help.

tripleee

and of course the opportunity to put stuff which doesn't belong there is pretty much an invitation to abuse it

"hello, I see you like xxCENSOREDxx" -- Wingd?ng

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Mega-Menu dropdown doesn't display on hover? by Mitch Medina on magento.SE

Makyen

@quartata There's a 2 year old FR to change the description of "Requires Editing", but SE hasn't bothered to spend the small amount of time to make such a minor change to text. [Every time I'm reminded about it, it just reinforces that SE really doesn't care about the state of their product, or their user's time.]

quartata

I disagree on both counts

that is, it's not minor -- it's a fundamental difference in what it means

they're not just going to copy and paste the proposed text

SmokeDetector

00:51

naa- by tripleee

quartata

and as a result I think the fact that they didn't just go for the easy route is more indicative of them caring about the logistics than not

Makyen

@quartata By "minor", I mean that it takes a minor amount of dev-time to change the text. It's not implementing a new feature. It's only changing text. I agree that it's not a minor issue, just that it takes a small amount of effort to fix it.

quartata

@ArtOfCode you know how SE OAuth works right?

/oauth/access_token takes it form encoded right

Makyen

@quartata The current text doesn't reflect what they want done in the queue. If people do what the current text directs them to do, then users will fail audits and the review queues will be broken (questions will bounce infinitely between triage and H&I). Sure, there's a whole bunch of stuff which they could do in that area which would improve things, but choosing (for 2 years) not to make an easy change which would improve the situation reflects negatively upon them.

SmokeDetector

01:10

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Buying big amounts of Bitcoin for cash in person by Denko on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by tripleee

SmokeDetector

01:30

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is there a list of active monero full nodes? by joel on monero.SE

tpu- by tripleee

Conflicting feedback on Is there a list of active monero full nodes?.

gparyani

@SmokeDetector Checked the user's history and they have accounts with rep on other sites. Doesn't seem to be a spammer.

tripleee

@gparyani doesn't answer the question at all though

gparyani

@SmokeDetector naa-

@tripleee There's an option for that

quartata

01:48

oh fun I get to do frontend

micsthepick

21 hours ago, by WELZ

Hey @micsthepick did you sign up to our own Charcoal Channel (basically Charcoal.SE)

how do I get my own charcoal email?

quartata

me right now trying to do frontend

Undo

@micsthepick Talk to @ArtOfCode

quartata

well I got to say

Yarn is way faster than NPM is

so that's nice

micsthepick

is it just Art@[cse].org?

Undo

01:54

He'll probably respond faster to a ping than an email

micsthepick

well, he has been pinged

Thomas Ward

i'm tempted to try and setup a MS dev instance just for kicks :P

angussidney

@ThomasWard feel free, but don't expect to make it out alive :P

Thomas Ward

@angussidney i'm already 30% dead, 20% alive, and 50% scar tissue from failed development things. There's not much left to kill in me :P

though the interesting part is this is going to be in an LXD container, so if I end up with a working instance, yay for a snapshot/image that's shareable.

angussidney

02:11

I'm having a look at updating our Circle config now

I can parallelise it and shave about 15s (10%) off our build time, do you think it's worth the additional complexity?

Makyen

xkcd: Is It Worth the Time?

angussidney

@Makyen thanks, XKCD relevant as always :P

I can spend (roughly) up to 2 hours on this to benefit us in a year

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 9432.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question by Stacey Wyatt on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Undo

@angussidney We have to move to Circle CI 2.0 anyway, right?

angussidney

Yeah

Undo

02:21

Seems like parallel would be simpler, actually - no chance of state from one test leaking over to another.

angussidney

I'm going to put flake tests in one container, and pytest in another

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Why is this error appearing in chrome load resource: net::ERR_QUIC_PROTOCOL_ERROR by Penelope Watson on stackoverflow.com

Undo

@angussidney Sounds good to me

gparyani

@Undo It was nearly 2 AM in the UK at the time of your ping

Undo

Pretty standard.

SmokeDetector

02:30

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: harder you prepare more grounded by Sgf bmj on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

gparyani

Is he usually awake at 02:00, @Undo?

Undo

Nope

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Unlike me... I don't sleep

angussidney

Do we want to use a jessie or stretch-based system for our builds?

gparyani

Pinged Catija to see if she also has one, and apparently not

Undo

02:33

@angussidney Just different Debian versions, right?

angussidney

Yeah

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Generalized Random Response for local differential privacy implementation by 陈逸轩 on stackoverflow.com

angussidney

Shouldn't make a difference

Undo

Usually I'd say to go with the newest thing, until you hit a thing that requires the older version

angussidney

I'll go with stretch since it's newer

gparyani

02:34

@micsthepick github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Channels-Beta

tl;dr email ArtOfCode

Undo

I'd do it, but I don't have access to those email controls.

... actually, let's just do this

@gparyani I'm going to verify my domain, then I'll just forward you a signup link

@gparyani Sign up with [email protected]

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to recover data from a mac that crash on login? by Toni A Blair on apple.SE

gparyani

@Undo Any chance of my being able to receive email from that address? :)

SmokeDetector

fp- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Undo

pretty good

@gparyani stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/join/…

Theoretically... we could make metasmoke learn how to receive email and do this automatically. That'd be cool

quartata

02:40

oops

I clicked on that without knowing what it was

hopefully that didn't ruin it

Undo

>.>

quartata

sorry

Undo

Looks like it worked

NO CLICKING QUARTATA

quartata

like I'm going to fall for that

gparyani

I'd be interested in seeing SO for Teams as a Piazza competitor

SmokeDetector

03:00

naa- by Makyen on Generalized Random Response for local differential privacy implementation [MS]

quartata

Does anyone know if SE OAuth automatically allows localhost as a redirect domain?

Rob

Not automatically, no @quartata

At least from what I've found. I've typically used fiddler to handle that

Actually disregard. In my testing, it's been localhost with a non-80 port. So it may allow plain old 'localhost'

quartata

Well I probably will be on 8000 since I have Apache on 80 obviously

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: MORE INFO @>> healthexpertproduct.com/nitronemax/ by TapuLazlu on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

quartata

hrm I guess I'll just deploy to test then

Rob

03:15

@quartata If you're on windows.. easiest way is just to use fiddler to map [xyz] to localhost:8000

quartata

looks like fiddler has an OS X version

means I gotta go get Mono though, looks like it doesn't do .NET Core

Catija

Um... is FIRE broken?

Undo

Is it?

quartata

yeah because MS is down

Undo

I'm playing with DNS, so it could very well be

Catija

03:21

Every time I hover over the fire logo it says "could not be loaded".

Undo

... huh. Interesting.

quartata

metasmoke.charcoal-se.org works

Undo

Better now?

(give it a few minutes to propagate)

quartata

tbh If it wasn't for all the link rot it'd cause I'd be totally in favor of dumping the erwaysoftware one

angussidney

@Undo can you do me a favour? I'm on windows and can't use SSH (at least not easily)

Have a look at the SSH info at the bottom of circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17232

Catija

03:26

@Undo Seems so.

angussidney

It says that you should use the same key that you use to SSH into GH

Undo

permission denied, publickey

quartata

won't know to use that key probably

Undo

@quartata I just tried all my keys. They don't work :P

angussidney

Maybe you should trigger a rebuild?

SmokeDetector

03:29

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 85c3b5e: Your tests failed on CircleCI

fp by gparyani on How to recover data from a mac that crash on login? [MS]

angussidney

It could be waiting for a key related to me specifically, since I requested a build with SSH enabled

SmokeDetector

naa by gparyani on Generalized Random Response for local differential privacy implementation [MS]

tpu by gparyani on BTC Arbitrage Opportunity question [MS]

Undo

@angussidney SSH works in Powershell - I use it all the time to get into metasmoke

angussidney

It's not that - I only have my keys in Linux and I'm too lazy to reboot to transfer them :P

Dont let me bother you any longer, I'll find a way

Undo

Triggered a rebuild

There we go. What are you looking for @angussidney?

angussidney

03:35

which python3

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on a27e6c9: Your tests failed on CircleCI

Undo

circleci@7a3bd1f71308:~$ which python3
/usr/local/bin/python3

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on ab83ca8: Your tests failed on CircleCI

angussidney

That would explain it

For some reason the venv/bin/activate command didn't carry between steps

No idea why though, considering that it would be a simple 'run these commands in order' system

Thanks @Undo

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 0e920d2: Your tests failed on CircleCI

Undo

03:42

Yep

SmokeDetector

[ metasmoke ] ci/circleci failure on 2cefa5f: Your tests failed on CircleCI

angussidney

Wow, I'm dumb

I'm using flake8 on flake8's code

I think

No, I am running it on everything

Why is flake8 testing everything in the virtualenv?

angussidney

04:15

I give up, for now at least

On the upside, I've halved our build time

On the downside, it's not working

gparyani

What happened here?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus/ by CarrieMunoz on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.healthsupplementsreviews.info/vivrax/ by Melissacampbell on askubuntu.com

Jamal

sd 2k

angussidney

@gparyani what do you mean by 'here'?

gparyani

@angussidney That made you give up? What's the tl;dr?

angussidney

04:28

Basically, flake8 (our linter) is testing itself (and ironically, throwing a million errors)

venv/bin/python3 -m flake8 ./ is testing things in ./venv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/

If the ./ picks up all files in the directory, why hasn't it failed on our old config before?

But if ./ is scoped to venv/bin/, why is it picking up stuff in ./venv/lib/ ?

Rubio

04:45

reporting as spam before I nuke it from orbit -
https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/61679/5-classic-building-suggestions-to-harm-fat-fast

some day I'll learn how to use this thing, sorry :)

Catija

!!/report puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/61679/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast by hioroexsrws on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

Rubio

thanks @Catija

Catija

Sure :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/androdna/ by stevehalex on english.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Weight Loss - Now Don't Quit At The Moment! by robernldsan on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by angussidney on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/androdna/ [MS]

tpu- by angussidney

API quota rolled over with 8822 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

math: 125
stackoverflow: 81
physics: 32
superuser: 26
english: 24
askubuntu: 24
serverfault: 12
apple: 12
security: 11
android: 11
bitcoin: 10
mathoverflow.net: 10
codegolf: 10
unix: 9
ell: 8
electronics: 8
networkengineering: 7
gaming: 7
law: 6
salesforce: 5
health: 5
scifi: 5
travel: 5
puzzling: 4
latin: 4
es.stackoverflow: 4
gis: 4
outdoors: 4
ethereum: 4
diy: 4
gamedev: 4
tex: 4
rpg: 3
photo: 3
dsp: 3
stats: 3
japanese: 3
wordpress: 3
cooking: 3
academia: 3
workplace: 3
meta: 3
ja.stackoverflow: 3

angussidney

04:51

@Rubio how long was that alive before you reported it? I'm curious as to whether Smokey would have picked it up

!!/test slimbodyketone.co.uk/testoram/

SmokeDetector

> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 5-15: bodyketone, Position 22-30: testoram
Title - Position 1-18: slimbodyketone.co
Body - Position 5-15: bodyketone, Position 22-30: testoram
Body - Position 1-18: slimbodyketone.co
Username - Position 5-15: bodyketone, Position 22-30: testoram

Rubio

Not positive, but at least 11 minutes

angussidney

...yep, you just ninja'd Smokey

!!/queuestatus

sd del-force

Rubio

post 04:33:00Z

so almost 15 minutes had gone by. I thought Smokey detected quicker than that.

angussidney

Yeah

Here's why it may have been delayed:

SD watches the feed at stackexchange.com/questions?tab=realtime for new questions

Because we don't have enough API quota to check every single post individually, we wait until a few posts have come in from one site (usually 2) before fetching them from the API

Rubio

04:56

ah. interestingly, we had two spam posts more or less back to back - that was the second one

the first had a link to evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus and was posted at 04:25:43Z

angussidney

@SmokeDetector this one was detected very soon after you reported one of them

So it's possible that you beat Smokey by a few seconds

@Rubio this spammer tends to do that - post two in quick succession

Rubio

that wasn't triggered by Catija's !!report?

angussidney

@SmokeDetector this one was triggered by Catija's report

@SmokeDetector not this one

Rubio

@angussidney oh. weird

@SmokeDetector This was the one at 04:25:43Z

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Makyen on 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast [MS]

Rubio

05:01

@SmokeDetector This one came last, so we got a trifecta

The middle one is the one that didn't get noticed - or, anyway, that got batched and thus got ninjad

PeterJ

!!/report codereview.stackexchange.com/a/189248

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future by douglas obina on codereview.SE

angussidney

@angussidney @quartata could I trouble you to take a look at this?

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17239

quartata

link to the circle.yml?

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Makyen

angussidney

05:05

@quartata github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/circle-config/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ by Adlahite on drupal.SE

quartata

add pwd first and rerun the build

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future by douglas obina on codereview.SE

quartata

actually

don't even do that

try it with --exclude .virtualenv

angussidney

@quartata ...too late

quartata

05:09

Or whatever it names it

Maybe do an ls if you can ssh in

angussidney

@quartata the thing that I'm wondering is why haven't we run into this error before?

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17241

quartata

because we never use virtualenv

I'm sure that it plops all the modules in the same directory and they get scanned

angussidney

@quartata I was under the impression that Circle 1.0 added a virtualenv by default

circleci.com/gh/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/17226

> Using cached venv

quartata

If it does it probably kept the envs in the home directory

do an ls -a to see what's in the project folder

angussidney

Aah, that would make sense

quartata

05:13

I'm sure there's something

angussidney

Another question.... why aren't ./test/ and ./classes/ also being scanned by the main flake check? If so, they'd also throw errors (which is why our tox settings for them are less strict IIRC)

quartata

They're excluded in the normal tox.ini

iBug

@angussidney they have separate config

quartata

If we can find what the name of the venv is then we just add them to that

angussidney

@quartata aah that makes sense

@quartata easy

iBug

05:18

@quartata Isn't it /home/travis/virtualenv?

quartata

@iBug he means when you run flake8 on the whole directory

angussidney

env

quartata

@iBug this isn't Travis

angussidney

@iBug /home/circleci/project/env

quartata

@angussidney all right then just open up the tox.ini and add in env/* I guess

angussidney

05:18

I've SSHed in

iBug

well, neverchecked circle

so, when do we leave a PR alone without much discussion?

angussidney

\o/ it works

Thanks

quartata

all right cool

angussidney

Build times from 2:20ish to 1:26

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1699

FTP

!!/report drupal.stackexchange.com/q/257435

SmokeDetector

05:33

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: It is a fourth time and is check for refinement and movement by ThomLambo on drupal.SE

FTP

They forgot a link, but it's still spam

SmokeDetector

tpu- by suraj

tpu- by suraj on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

tpu by quartata on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

tpu by quartata on 5 Classic Building Suggestions To Harm Fat Fast [MS]

tpu- by suraj on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: In at any rate things stack up by Knook1972 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Ashish Ahuja

SmokeDetector

06:01

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: READ=>> evermaxmaleenhancements.co.uk/garcinia-cambogia-xtra-plus/ by MarcSchm on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by Makyen

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Illuminosity Cream Remove Your Face Wrinkles By by user804229 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by Makyen

Suraj Rao

0

Q: How do I leave a team

I joined the team https://stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/ accidently. How do I can leave this team? I can't see any option there.

support

SmokeDetector

tpu by Jamal

tpu by Jamal on Setting PHP variables for 2 years back and 2 years in the future [MS]

tpu by Jamal on https://orderfitnesspoints.co.uk/lipovyn/ [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Omega Green Hemp Extract Reviews by lovequeen on meta.SE

tpu- by suraj

tpu by Jamal

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted user: Where do I start to debug a problem by Sgf bmj on apple.SE

Suraj Rao

apparently private beta is no longer private

SmokeDetector

06:18

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body: Rose Diamond Serum Rose Jewel Serum could be the serum by Micheaogers on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by suraj

tpu- by Makyen on Where do I start to debug a problem [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: that is the fine testosterone and male trade by Appis fordery on drupal.SE

tpu- by Makyen

Peter Haddad

hello

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

o/

Makyen

@SurajRao For ease of signing up members, Charcoal set the domains needed for signing up to include a few/several common free email providers (e.g. gmail.com). This seemed like a good idea at the time. In reporting bugs, a few URLs to charcoal team pages were posted on meta. This made it easy for people to sign up. The significant SE UI change when belonging to a Team and no clear way to remove yourself from the team (without it looking like you destroy your SE account) causes issues.

SmokeDetector

tpu by Jamal on Where do I start to debug a problem [MS]

angussidney

@Makyen ~~for ease of signing up members~~ because we wanted to ~~break~~ test the system as much as possible

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

06:28

hmmm I just found out that FIRE doesn't work if hardware acceleration is disabled in chrome..

Makyen

@angussidney Yeah, you could look at it that way too :-)

angussidney

:P

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Makyen

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs huh? How does it fail?

@PeterHaddad Hello.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@Makyen no interface at all. I disabled it because I am having issues with some video playback in the browser, and noticed that as a side effect.

Makyen

06:43

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs So, no response when you click the FIRE button, or no FIRE button at all?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

no fire button at all

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K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test visualpath.in/Sitecore-Course-in-hyderabad.html

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> Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username
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Title - Position 35-54: Course-in-hyderabad
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tpu- by Makyen on Why is console application game running slower/lagging on my laptop [MS]

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Makyen

07:13

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Did you do something other than disable "Use hardware acceleration when available" from the Chrome settings expanded to advanced?

What OS are you on?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@Makyen Nope. That was the only change made (I have since turned it back on). Windows 10

Makyen

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I'm unable to duplicate the problem. It works fine for me with that setting disabled (and having restarted Chrome, so it takes effect).

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Strange. I have tried refreshing the browser multiple times (also with Shift+F5). Closed out and reopened multiple times. All without success. Then I switched H/A back on and the button was there.

If you know anything about H/A at all, maybe you could take a look at my question superuser.com/questions/1300788/…

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07:37

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Makyen

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs My experience, a couple/few years ago, using an older graphics card and Firefox was that hardware acceleration (HA) support for (some) older cards had been dropped. Basically, all rendering was done on the CPU. Older versions of Firefox did support HA for the card I had (I'd have to look up which ATI card I had). I would have expected that Chrome would drop HA prior to Firefox. You may way to try Firefox to see if it will enable HA. However, your issue with drivers may supersede that.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yeah, I have a dislike of Firefox tbh

I would use IE before I use Firefox

Makyen

That's a strong dislike. Why?

ArtOfCode

@Undo that would be cool

@angussidney yeah, it's all sorted. I can deactivate accounts

@micsthepick need an email address for you so that I can set up a forward on charcoal-se.org

@Undo should also have access to those controls

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

I could never really figure that out myself. Maybe I am just use to Chrome's layout. It's more of a UI thing than anything else.

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07:49

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gparyani

I don't use Chrome because it makes text look too bright and weird.

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gparyani

(at least on my high-DPI screen)

I generally only use Edge because it's the only browser with proper touchscreen support, and I use my computer's touchscreen quite frequently

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K.Dᴀᴠɪs

First time I've heard someone say they use Edge ;P

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07:54

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

John Dvorak

That's a rather ... edge usecase, though

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Makyen

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Firefox has progressively gotten more Chrome-like over the last multiple versions. If you haven't tried it moderately recently, it might be a reasonable alternative for you at this point. Everyone has their own preferences. Mine is against the UI that Chrome uses, particularly the significant lack of customization. However, now that Firefox has lost most of it's ability to be customized, there isn't nearly the strong difference there once was.

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Yeah I might consider it

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