Charcoal HQ

SmokeDetector

18:00

New metasmoke user 'J. Doe' created

ArtOfCode

this J. Doe, he certainly likes metasmoke

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'J. Doe' created

New metasmoke user 'grgarside' created

Thomas Ward

@CaffeineAddiction 16.04 why

Undo

He's playing with Docker

Thomas Ward

ah

SmokeDetector

18:07

New metasmoke user 'muddyfish' created

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector Why twice?

SmokeDetector

@M.A.R. That's not a report.

Thomas Ward

well the Overlord instance is an lxc container not Docker :P

Undo

I'm testing stuff

M.A.R.

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know

Magisch

18:08

gained over 120 views since featured

Damn

Andy

\o/ Home internet problems are not my fault today! In a related victory, I passed through Tier 1 in less than a minute and Tier 2 in less than 3.

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'J. Doe' created

Seth

@ArtOfCode say cheese :P

ArtOfCode

cheese?

Magisch

@Andy "No I know its your backbone I can read a traceroute" "Oh, let me just escalate you"

Seth

18:10

@ArtOfCode okay, smile makes more sense, I guess.

(or maybe cheese is purely an American expression)

ArtOfCode

@Seth grimaces

no, it's over here too

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'J. Doe' created

ArtOfCode

@Magisch edited just 'cuz we're in the spotlight today

Magisch

Is someone messing with MS

Ah sure @art

Undo

I am

ArtOfCode

18:11

@Magisch Undo's doing some testing

Magisch

How could I be so uncouth

Undo

mostly dev on prod

Magisch

[tag:dev-on-prod]

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'J. Doe' created

M.A.R.

@Magisch No worky 'cause no parent site to Charcoal

SmokeDetector

18:13

New metasmoke user 'Jeutnarg' created

New metasmoke user 'Amittai Shapira' created

Ferrybig

Is someone testing metasmoke, or did the spammers found metasmoke's signup page?

Magisch

I wonder if we'll get a mention in the next podcast

Undo

Andy

I recently had someone ask me to go get a computer and turn it on so I could restart it. He refused to move further in the script until I said I had done that.

Undo

^ I'm fairly happy with that

M.A.R.

18:14

Question, will we ever manage to get autoflags from now on, considering how there're gonna be 7589593 participants?

Undo

@Ferrybig featured across the whole network

Glorfindel

6 mins ago, by Undo

I'm testing stuff

Undo

@M.A.R. There are plans for that. Eventually, we'll just prioritize 'core' folks

For example, give ourselves two out of three flagging slots.

M.A.R.

Oh, nice. Thanks

And I prolly don't count as 'core' hehe

I haven't contributed any code.

Seth

@Magisch ooh, that'd be cool.

Glorfindel

18:15

@M.A.R. giving enough feedback counts as core (at least in my opinion)

Seth

@Undo you know, between smokey and metasmoke, you'be got a pretty slick portfolio :)

Undo

@M.A.R. You already do :P

The role exists, it just isn't used for anything

M.A.R.

I feel . . . Important.

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. actually, you do

M.A.R.

I feel more important.

Undo

18:17

@SmokeDetector Looks like it worked for this guy.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body: .kjhkjgjhfghfhgfh by Tick on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

J F

@SmokeDetector v

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector v

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector v

Glorfindel

@JF I have AIM 0.10-beta.4 and it keeps showing a spinner (and no feedback / flagging info)

Undo

18:18

@Seth I tend to undersell myself, but in putting a resume together I had a couple moments of "huh, we've done a lot"

M.A.R.

Hmm, how many gibberish questions are there?

@Glorfindel It updates well for me

J F

@Glorfindel I see that. I’ll work on it in a second.

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Jim Fasarakis-Hilliard' created

Undo

and yeah, we're definitely passing uid 100

Magisch

@Undo "That actually does sound kind of impressive when you list all of it"

Seth

18:19

@Undo That's the hardest part about a resume. You have to actually gasp promote yourself. Which is hard for me :P

M.A.R.

36 users, we can do better prolly

SmokeDetector

API quota rolled over with 1413 requests remaining. Current quota: 9999.

Magisch

I'm notoriously bad at interviews

SmokeDetector

stackoverflow: 1740
askubuntu: 525
superuser: 469
unix: 263
drupal: 240
electronics: 205
math: 189
english: 182
travel: 179
salesforce: 157
dba: 148
mathoverflow.net: 145
gis: 143
magento: 135
meta: 131
wordpress: 129
apple: 120
sharepoint: 120
webapps: 116
physics: 109
gaming: 106
es.stackoverflow: 102
academia: 96
security: 96
worldbuilding: 95
rpg: 92
ell: 91
stats: 89
ru.stackoverflow: 87
scifi: 85
money: 81
tex: 81
movies: 80
chemistry: 78
workplace: 78
mathematica: 76
outdoors: 66
history: 60

Undo

@M.A.R. Could get a ton if we moved the link to the end, but I don't see a reason to

M.A.R.

18:20

@Undo Eh, most visitors will prolly end up being curious one-timers than regulars

Change that to 'most prolly'

Change that to 'definitely'

Glorfindel

@Undo we should actually do that, but only because it would be detected by Smokey.

Seth

@SmokeDetector for a minute I was like "yay, askubuntu is getting less spam" then I realized I'd glazed over #2 -.-

ArtOfCode

nah, Andy has too much rep to get detected

Undo

If only. Pretty sure Andy counts as trusted

ArtOfCode

@Seth that's just API requests, not spam posts.

M.A.R.

18:21

@Seth Huh, isn't that activity, not spam, and therefore a good thing?

Glorfindel

@Seth that's not spam count, it's 'activity count'. Math sees almost no spam but it still #6 on the list.

Undo

@ArtOfCode What's the story on your posts/show change?

Seth

@ArtOfCode Oh ok. Was wondering about that.

Undo

oh, see it now

ArtOfCode

@Undo someone put a link to the user in it, which broke, I tried fixing it and took twenty hundred attempts

Seth

18:22

btw, someone needs to go through smokey's codebase and add comments :P

Undo

@ArtOfCode It's throwing exceptions :P

ArtOfCode

bah

tell it to stop

Undo

Trying to figure out where

ArtOfCode

I stopped trying to fix it when the tests passed

M.A.R.

O.SE is a weird name, BTW

SmokeDetector

18:23

New metasmoke user 'Sconibulus' created

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. not much weirder than M.A.R. :P

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector cool name because I don't know how to pronounce it

@Glorfindel Lucky me, I'm not an SE

Undo

So metasmoke is actually handling enough concurrent requests that it's making my logs messy

@ArtOfCode there it is

Andy

@JF This doesn't show new comments :(

M.A.R.

Fun fact: I just noticed my laptop's battery has almost cracked in half

Andy

18:25

@Undo Successful project problems :)

J F

@Andy Any ideas for that?

Undo

that... would be an issue

ArtOfCode

@Undo uhhh... I've never seen that error before

Undo

Pretty sure I know what it is, we don't load enough data on /reasons

I've got it

Should have been caught in tests, though

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Vadim Ovchinnikov' created

M.A.R.

18:26

@SmokeDetector Also a cool name

Andy

@JF No. I don't think those are included in the feeds, unfortunately.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 9943.

Thomas Ward

!!/errorlogs 50

SmokeDetector

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_socket.py", line 80, in recv
    bytes_ = sock.recv(bufsize)


error: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
2017-02-22 18:26:58.136364 UTC
  File "/home/smokey/SmokeDetector/excepthook.py", line 48, in run_with_except_hook
    run_old(*args, **kw)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 754, in run
    self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)

  File "/home/smokey/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 699, in _runner

Thomas Ward

sigh

J F

18:28

I’ve added a comments feed from stack2rss, we’ll see if that helps.

Andy

I haven't seen stack2rss before. That's pretty cool

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Non-English link in answer: Trying to remember a movie with a fairy burning butterfly collection by Barış Realms on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir @dorukayhan)

fp- by J F

Tim

I'm not surprised that Ask Ubuntu gets the most spam.

Glorfindel

18:43

@Tim except that it doesn't.

Tim

@Glorfindel Ahh I was looking at this: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/reason/61

Jan Dvorak

hmm...

AU gets the most spam with URLs in titles.

Byte Commander

@Glorfindel Are there graphs about how the number of spam per site changed over time? That would interest me.

Tim

Possibly printer support websites?

ArtOfCode

@ByteCommander these could be made

Tim

18:46

mmh no, mostly for health stuff, male enchancments etc.

Seth

@Glorfindel Wow, Ask Different has gone up. And what's with Graphic design? Crazy.

(of course, I have no idea why Drupal is so targeted either, but I'm used to that by now)

Glorfindel

@Seth Spam Different.

Seth

hah!

M.A.R.

@Seth GD spammers are using the site's great functionality to show off their muscles

Seth

@M.A.R. eh?

Jan Dvorak

18:48

GD lets them post images

M.A.R.

@Seth Yeah, images aren't disabled for less than 10 rep there

Seth

Ohh. Eww.

M.A.R.

The spammer bots, therefore, look more masculine than me

Byte Commander

as long as they show only muscles and do not demonstrate the male enhancements...

Jan Dvorak

I'd prefer a lady in a short silk dress over a well-oiled dude.

Undo

18:51

@ArtOfCode Still need to SnokeDetector account around on metasmoke?

Assuming it's yours

ArtOfCode

@Undo that ain't mine, it's @angussidney's

Seth

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 9794.

Undo

ah, okay

Mithrandir

@JanDvorak o_O

Jan Dvorak

18:52

sorry.

Mithrandir

Eeekk. I'm blue o_o

Undo

Oh hey, congrats

Jan Dvorak

Well, that's new.

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir you're not blue yet, but congratulations anyway.

Magisch

He's blue for me

gz mithrandir

Jan Dvorak

18:53

@Glorfindel refresh

Byte Commander

@Mithrandir daba dee daba da

Mithrandir

@Glorfindel reload and see what happens. Thanks :D

Thomas Ward

nuke and reload cache

Jan Dvorak

@ByteCommander I consciously avoided making that reference

Thomas Ward

i see blue person who shall receive a pipe from /dev/urandom sent their way.

Byte Commander

18:54

xD

Mithrandir

:P

Jan Dvorak

So, how did that happen?

(also, congratulations)

Undo

Literature

Ferrybig

@Mithrandir congratulations

Jan Dvorak

Nice

Andy

18:55

Congrats

Mithrandir

Thanks everyone, now lets not flood the room :P

Undo

nah, it's a tradition

Jan Dvorak

What's the progress on site opt-outs, BTW?

ArtOfCode

we bred another blue?

@JanDvorak they can have 'em if they want, but they'll have to form consensus and tell us

Undo

Technically, it's a matter of someone with a console setting max_flags on their site to 0 (or 1)

Jan Dvorak

18:57

Nice. That's easier than I expected.

Now we just wait for the consensus

Undo

I... think that would work. Should probably check

Jan Dvorak

(to never come, ideally :-)

Undo

Observation: +105/-6 is pretty good for something that was apparently controversial

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'BCdotWEB' created

M.A.R.

@Undo And it's still not that clear what the downvotes mean

The upvotes are more vague, BUT there's no harm in agreement

Whatever form it takes

Mithrandir

19:02

Okay, so to make sure: Now that I have a diamond, Smokey will automatically make sure not to flag Lit stuff on my account?

ArtOfCode

@Mithrandir correct

M.A.R.

@Mithrandir Mhm

Undo

@Mithrandir Good thing to test. The auto refresh should come in a few hours

Mithrandir

Good.

Thomas Ward

@Mithrandir or it will fail and then totally destroy your ability to be mod :P

M.A.R.

19:03

It will throw either you or an exception

Undo

chance that we get something on Lit that's flaggable in the next few hours is pretty much zero

ArtOfCode

you can always deselect Literature from your conditions/preferences if you want to be double sure

Undo

^ also an option

M.A.R.

@Undo I wanna spam Shakespeare's Hamlet

I think the only spam Lit would attract is Essay Writing, and only very sporadically

Has there been great waves of essay writing spam on one site?

Jan Dvorak

@M.A.R. too broad / unclear what you're trying to convey between the lines?

@M.A.R. I think health spam is pretty global

Undo

19:05

@M.A.R. IIRC we tend to get only sporadically

Academia and Writers are the usual suspects

M.A.R.

@JanDvorak Nah, I don't remember it on language betas

Loong

@M.A.R. "How to help a postgraduate student to write a book?"

Mithrandir

@Loong That's popped up like 4 times already, so yeah, maybe.

Undo

@Mithrandir Just in case, you should probably know: If for whatever reason we/you accidentally spam flag something, mod > clear rude/spam/abusive flags undoes everything

M.A.R.

@Loong Not that one. This is the coolest essay writing service. There's ambiguity in your sentence and you can syntactically use these semantically fancy looking words to spam . . .

Mithrandir

19:07

k, thanks.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 9687.

M.A.R.

But that's not at all improbable

Jan Dvorak

@Loong you mean the guy who has a long tendency to post the exact same question over and over again, and deleting their account seconds after?

M.A.R.

Mhm

Do we flag spam on meta sites, by any chance? meta.chemistry.stackexchange.com/a/3598/7448

ArtOfCode

no

Jan Dvorak

19:10

If it's spam, why not?

Undo

We hardly ever get anything there, mostly

actually, meta sites don't come down the websocket at all

most of them have a 5-rep requirement

Jan Dvorak

It isn't in the realtime tab, so Smokey doesn't see it, but if it does get noticed, why not report?

M.A.R.

@Undo I know

ArtOfCode

you can manually report on meta sites

Undo

!!/report will take them happily, but that won't get you enough weight for autoflagging

ArtOfCode

19:12

@M.A.R. also, that's NAA

SmokeDetector

@Undo To avoid SmokeDetector reporting posts too slowly, you can report at most 5 posts at a time. This is to avoid SmokeDetector's chat messages getting rate-limited too much, which would slow down reports.

5

Undo

... thanks

Jan Dvorak

does FDSC report spam on meta?

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Nathan Arthur' created

M.A.R.

@ArtOfCode It's not. There's a lil answer lying there somewhere

Undo

19:12

metasmoke database is now 90MB of junk

ArtOfCode

@M.A.R. mkay, VLQ then

Mithrandir

@JanDvorak yes

M.A.R.

@ArtOfCode Meh, we're playing Li Zhi for a little while

Mithrandir

I flagged an answer on Meta.SO once, it was autoreported via FDSC.

ArtOfCode

@M.A.R. I don't see anywhere it says that

M.A.R.

19:13

@SmokeDetector Nice, you learn something new about Smokey everyday

@ArtOfCode See the first answer

ArtOfCode

@M.A.R. yes, that's an answer with some fun inserted into it

Thomas Ward

@Undo torch it?

ArtOfCode

it's not just a wall of VLQ

Jan Dvorak

@M.A.R. [:35609455] that message is not a report.

M.A.R.

@JanDvorak Why

Undo

19:14

@ThomasWard huh?

Of course not :P

Jan Dvorak

@M.A.R. :35609473 that message isn't a report either.

M.A.R.

@ArtOfCode Don't worry, I'll edit it after a while

@JanDvorak [:35609489] That message looks fake.

Jan Dvorak

Pro-tip: editing an answer into a non-answer and then flagging it as such is not welcome.

M.A.R.

@JanDvorak ?

Jan Dvorak

one interpretation of "don't worry, I'll edit it after a while"

M.A.R.

19:18

I don't get you

It is already an answer, it just doesn't have formatting

Jan Dvorak

Oh. I wondered if you wanted to edit in a way that would justify your flag.

M.A.R.

Hehe, it's my answer

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) - 25 May 2018 - What does it mean for me as a programmer? by Andrew Marsh on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Jan Dvorak

... oh. I didn't even notice it's yours.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Undo

M.A.R.

19:20

TPU?

Oh, answer

Jan Dvorak

@M.A.R. Yep. Known spam site.

M.A.R.

@JanDvorak I was puzzled, looking at just the question

Jan Dvorak

The question still sucks, though. Hard.

Magisch

@Undo @ArtOfCode Any word on how long the featured will last?

ArtOfCode

"some"

Undo

19:24

Nope, doesn't really matter anyway

Jan Dvorak

I think it's two days usually?

or, two weeks?

ArtOfCode

I said a few days when we asked Jon, but we'll just let 'em unfeature it when they feel like they should

M.A.R.

@JanDvorak Nah, it's usually weeks

Undo

[featured] is automatically removed after two weeks, but I doubt it'd be that long

Magisch

Alright

J F

19:24

Has anybody new come into the chatroom due to the post?

Magisch

I just thought maybe y'all had a definite timeline

Jan Dvorak

Why unfeature earlier?

M.A.R.

100 votes on the question is already really nice

Jan Dvorak

@JF come and gone

Undo

@JanDvorak Taking up a spot on community bulletins across the network is a pretty heavy action.

Magisch

19:25

@JanDvorak Cause featured posts on MSE take away a sidebar spot on every side of the network

Jan Dvorak

gotcha

Magisch

We're literally occupying the side bar of every single logged in user right now until it's unfeatured

Jan Dvorak

should the default featured time be shortened then?

Undo

mSE is a special case, mostly

Jan Dvorak

If we're not that spectacular, what is?

Undo

19:26

@Magisch Shows for me in incognito too

Magisch

@Undo some sites dont show the sidebar when not logged in

Undo

SO does, didn't test any others

Magisch

that'll give a surge of activity when europe comes to work tomorrow

Jan Dvorak

Brace yourselves.

SmokeDetector

19:38

New metasmoke user 'Cᴏʀʏ' created

ArtOfCode

well at least usernames support unicode

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'LegionMammal978' created

ArtOfCode

and that's UID 100

Jan Dvorak

just 28 to go until a round number

Glorfindel

@JanDvorak you mean 11100.

Undo

19:44

Super happy with how OAuth is working for this

Means I don't have to hold email addresses, yay

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'JonasCz' created

M.A.R.

@SmokeDetector Huh, didn't Jonas already have an account?

Dunno why I was under that impression.

Mithrandir

For some reason, the meta isn't showing up on meta.Lit.

M.A.R.

@Mithrandir prolly should blame caching

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir it isn't either on any other Meta sites I recently visited.

SmokeDetector

19:54

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What does "It can be common or split between the digital and analog sections." mean? by Danial Schwartz on ell.SE

tpu- by Gothdo

New metasmoke user 'Burkhard' created

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector hey, does FDSC reporting from review work nowadays?

ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector this is still showing a spinner, @JF

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode same here.

J F

@ArtOfCode Working on it

Glorfindel

k thx

M.A.R.

19:58

@SmokeDetector Actually same here now

in Language Overflow, 3 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What does "It can be common or split between the digital and analog sections." mean? by Danial Schwartz on ell.SE

First message on our chat. Thank you @Art less than three

DavidPostill

@Glorfindel Not last time I tried it :/

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