Charcoal HQ

Thomas Ward

17:00

@Undo where can I define CHQ-only?

for testing something :p

Undo

python nocrash.sh charcoal-hq-only

Thomas Ward

s/\.sh/\.py/

:P

thanks

ArtOfCode

@ThomasWard hang on a minute

I'm about to post an Introduction to Charcoal/Smokey, and would appreciate if it wasn't interrupted until it's done :)

CaffeineAddiction

You guys ever post that doc on meta?

ArtOfCode

Welcome to Charcoal HQ. If you've just arrived, you're probably wondering just what is going on, and what all these funny messages are. The following few messages are a quick introduction to what happens here, and I'll add some relevant links at the end.

3

This is Charcoal HQ. This room is run by a group of people called Charcoal, who make a bunch of things that work with SE. Our main focus is on our bot, SmokeDetector. This bot scans all new and updated content across the network, running some pattern recognition to try to find spam.

If it finds a post it thinks is spam, it posts a report of the post in here. It's then down to the people in the room to review the post and work out if it's spam or not, flagging it as necessary. In effect, that makes this room a real-time spam review queue.

Those people can then feed back to SmokeDetector about whether it got the detection right or not. We call a correct detection a true positive, and the feedback for this is represented as k or tpu-. An incorrect detection is a false positive, represented by f or fp-. If you're looking at a message with one of these codes in it and wondering what it is, it's most likely feedback.

That feedback is then sent off to our web dashboard, metasmoke, where we keep a permanent record of it so that we can track how well we're doing. The ins and outs of metasmoke are another story all by themselves, but the TL;DR is that it gives us a platform to track statistics and record things permanently and centrally, which SmokeDetector can't do.

Anything else anyone wants to add to that?

Thomas Ward

17:03

just next time freeze the room so your mini tirades don't get interrupted :P

Glorfindel

I'd remove the reference to $deity. It might offend or annoy people.

Jan Dvorak

I was wondering whom you were greeting, then I read back to your message above that.

Glorfindel

Apart from that, good job!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Besides, it soaks your muscle by Aimigill on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fa4828b (ArtOfCode: New check for that postgraduate spammer) (running on teward/Overlord)

Restart: API quota is 9975.

Thomas Ward

cool that actually worked

Jan Dvorak

17:05

@ThomasWard nah, just throw us a gist link

Andy

@CaffeineAddiction Working on the draft currently. See the star board if you want to throw in input

ArtOfCode

:35457789 yeah, that's kinda not something we need in production Smokey though :P

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode no, but it's not going to be

ArtOfCode

good good :)

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode i was actually testing a unicode pass to the communication

because i was wondering whether it's properly handled :P

Andy

17:06

Actually, all I really want for that post is a graph of the time to deletion then I'm a happy camper :)

ArtOfCode

Intro to CHQ and Smokey

3 mins ago, 20 seconds total – 5 messages, 1 user, 3 stars

Bookmarked 5 secs ago by ArtOfCode

Thomas Ward

uhm should I be concerned about bodyfetcherMaxIds.txt not being readable?

is it just a binary file?

ArtOfCode

sudo chmod -R 755 bodyfetcherMaxIds.txt?

Jan Dvorak

binary files shouldn't be named .txt.

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode E: Not Decodeable in UTF-8

ArtOfCode

17:07

I sincerely doubt it's a binary file. It might be a pickle file, though.

CaffeineAddiction

totalyNotAVirus.exe.txt

Riker

.spelling.virus.iso

Jan Dvorak

Link?

ArtOfCode

oh, yeah, okay

it is a binary file

Thomas Ward

yep it's a pickle file

@ArtOfCode it's a pickle file, but it's being stored as text. Should be .pickle

CaffeineAddiction

17:09

pickle isnt binary

ArtOfCode

datahandling 65, @ThomasWard

Thomas Ward

AND in gitignore

ArtOfCode

@ThomasWard that would be .p

Thomas Ward

same for queue

Jan Dvorak

Yet another proprietary serialization format...

Thomas Ward

17:10

I'll poke it, @ArtOfCode

these should all be .pickle files

ArtOfCode

Heh. The scammers decided to actually call me up for once instead of emailing.

Riker

?

ArtOfCode

"I'm calling from $PhoneProvider to thank you for being a loyal customer and to conduct a review of the account."

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode We're looking at a little bit of a refactor at this rate - if everything is a Pickle file then most of the .txt -> .pickle

anyone still with .txt files will have to rename...

ArtOfCode

It took one sentence to set the alarm bells ringing

Jan Dvorak

17:13

is that a ... six-character file extension?

ArtOfCode

@ThomasWard create a migration script to do any necessary moving stuff around while you're at it

@JanDvorak no, because pickle files should be .p not .pickle

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode I intend to.

ArtOfCode

@ThomasWard you intend to...

Thomas Ward

but first I have to figure out what needs changed :P

i.e. determine what files are pickle files, change them in code, and use the diff as a migration guide

for creating a migration script

we can even launch it in nocrash.py automatically.

at startup

Thomas Ward

17:34

that dreaded feeling when you fail to properly ID string indexes in textvar[:-4] and instead write textvar[-4:] which removes the filename. Oops.

Riker

rip

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Detecting the presence of wifi devices by Randy Bum Gardener on security.SE

Thomas Ward

just got to make sure this thing runs...

unless I blew it up.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 3f9d440 (Thomas Ward: Add pickle migration script for .txt to .p) (running on teward/Overlord)

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector rude

Riker

17:37

ye

Jan Dvorak

Is that a response recognized by Smokey?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fa4828b (ArtOfCode: New check for that postgraduate spammer) (running on teward/Aurora)

Thomas Ward

whoopsies I accidentally'd Smokey :/

my bad.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 1785.

Mithrandir

@Riker I was feedbacking since I'm on my phone and can't fdsc

Riker

17:38

ah

Mithrandir

@JanDvorak think so

Jan Dvorak

MS says Mithrandir TPUd

DavidPostill

@Mithrandir Looks like it is :)

rude -> tpu-

Mithrandir

Yep.

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode I think i have a migration script, it goes through all .txt files that're actually pickles, runs a check to make sure it exists, and if it does, renames. Then it'd execute as normal with .p. We can always run it in nocrash.py

it's just an import statement :P

actually it's small enough I could hardcode it into nocrash.py xD

Jan Dvorak

17:43

"that're"? I've never seen that contraction before.

Riker

that're

== English == === Etymology === that +‎ 're === Pronunciation === (US) IPA(key): /ðətɚ/ === Contraction === that're (neologism) Contraction of that are. (Can we add an example for this sense?)...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a94a1b8 (Thomas Ward: indentation) (running on teward/Overlord)

Thomas Ward

confirmed it works :)

alrighty...

so...

oopsies tests failures o.O

Riker

17:58

rip

Thomas Ward

hmm

@ArtOfCode could we run the pickle fix in ws.py, or do we want to avoid that? Nocrash or ws.py?

one of thsoe two places should do it

one would not require a manual pull, the other would

ArtOfCode

@ThomasWard neither, make it manual

it only needs to be run once

Thomas Ward

OK

waiting on PR CI

Magisch

[tag:panic-driven-development]

SmokeDetector

CI on de5df57 succeeded.

Magisch

18:13

We've been kicking spammer ass all day though

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev de5df57 (Thomas Ward: Merge pull request #527 from Charcoal-SE/pickle_is_not_txt) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 1538.

Thomas Ward

welcome back Smokey, and welcome to the real world of Pickles

@Undo your RPi will need to have Smokey stopped, a git pull done, execute fix_pickles.py, and then start Smokey again.

(pickle files aren't .txt, so we gave them the right extensions now)

SmokeDetector

API quota rolled over with 1510 requests remaining. Current quota: 9999.

stackoverflow: 1585
askubuntu: 497
superuser: 437
unix: 239
drupal: 212
electronics: 185
math: 175
english: 163
travel: 163
mathoverflow.net: 143
salesforce: 142
dba: 141
gis: 132
magento: 126
wordpress: 118
meta: 118
webapps: 114
apple: 109
sharepoint: 109
gaming: 99
physics: 98
academia: 92
es.stackoverflow: 89
worldbuilding: 89
security: 85
rpg: 85
stats: 80
ru.stackoverflow: 79
ell: 78
money: 75
scifi: 75
workplace: 74
movies: 74
chemistry: 73
tex: 71
mathematica: 66
outdoors: 59
history: 57

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Drawing a String on C# webpage by Ritoot on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

96 autoflagged posts in a day, new record!

Magisch

274 Autoflags cast in a day, a new record!

ArtOfCode

18:25

the posts-vs-flags graph is amusing

rene

@Undo I find this whole announcement tag a kind of a joke so if you see me suggest it anywhere you can assume I'm trolling. I would definitely add [tag:announcement] to this room tags ...

So, I made my point

tripleee

@Magisch well yeah duh

I only see 271 in the flag log though ...?

Magisch

@rene You're a flower, rene

tripleee

... and only one of them is mine

two actually, the previous one had apparently scrolled off the first page

ArtOfCode

well today has used almost 3 pages, so...

Magisch

18:30

I got 20 flags today

In 274 autoflags today and 24 participants, I should have gotten an average of 11. I guess the lower weight makes it.

Floern

@Magisch I have min weight 265 and got only 6 autoflags

so now I know where the other statistical 5 went :P

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode so, apparently I like CI, 'cause I borrowed our Travis and Circle CI configs and adjusted them for my repos' needs. And now I spammed myself with "BROKEN!" and "STILL BROKEN!" messages because flake8 evils

how's 76 emails sound to you :p

ArtOfCode

that's a few

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body: raspberry pi live to youtube issue by jeffh3c on raspberrypi.SE

Thomas Ward

@ArtOfCode yes, it is

SmokeDetector

18:38

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: What do we call to a person who is on a weight loose plan? by Dipika on english.SE

Thomas Ward

38 build fails, two CI systems

KABLOOEY

Undo

@rene I probably tend to agree, but I'm giving it a chance before passing judgment. Maybe it'll be a useful tool.

SmokeDetector

fp- by DavidPostill on raspberry pi live to youtube issue [MS]

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev de5df57 (Thomas Ward: Merge pull request #527 from Charcoal-SE/pickle_is_not_txt) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

Undo

@ThomasWard done. Being able to SSH directly to it through IPv6 is awesome.

SmokeDetector

fp- by Glorfindel

Thomas Ward

18:40

@Undo indeed.

Glorfindel

@AshishAhuja your autoflag has been cast here, but it's an FP. You might want to retract it, but a moderator has already put the question on hold so it might also be declined already.

ArtOfCode

that's odd

Undo

Could probably do another bump to ~99.85%, although I'm not sure it's worth it

ArtOfCode

why only one flag?

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode EL&U has a spam threshold of 3, so an autoflag setting of max. 1

Magisch

18:41

@ArtOfCode ell.SE

ArtOfCode

ah

Magisch

Methinks we should make autoflag exceptions if the only two reasons triggered on a post are by the same phrase

So that the same bad keyword in body and title doesn't hit autoflag.

Glorfindel

@Magisch too complicated for the times that occurs (IMHO)

Undo

yeah, parsing why data is REALLY HARD

I tried once.

Thomas Ward

@Undo thank you though for quickly kicking your RPi :)

Magisch

18:42

Not sure if irony

Undo

aye :)

Glorfindel

@Undo why? :P

Undo

@Glorfindel Because you think that it's in a nice format, but it actually isn't. Some filters remove certain characters before running, and it throws your indexes off. Some filters remove UTF evilness, some don't

basically we're inconsistent

Magisch

@Undo Idea: don't parse why data, parse the part of it thats written into metasmoke

Undo

not sure what you're saying there

@ArtOfCode Should probably group successful flags on the same post into one row

ArtOfCode

18:48

that'd be sensible

Undo

Not sure how to do it nicely, though. Comma-separated would get long.

Thomas Ward

pickle it! just kidding

oh cool, apparently Travis and Circle autosubbed me to Smokey build notices o.O yay spam time

Andy

@Glorfindel Note to me for later: Include this FP in the meta post

Undo

It'd be super nice to have flag retraction in the API

@Andy Around the same place, might be good to mention that we'll retract the 0.01% of bad flags once meta.stackexchange.com/questions/288120/… is implemented.

Andy

good idea

Magisch

19:04

@Undo something to ask pops when he pops around next time

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Effect Of Electronic Devices In Close Proximity by DEAN on electronics.SE

naa- by Magisch

SmokeDetector

19:29

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Financial maths- compound interest rate and equivalent discount rate by daniel smith on math.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

SmokeDetector

19:49

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Wordpress Widget problems to my site by Seomarketergr on wordpress.SE

NobodyNada

Hello! I'm sorry I had to leave suddenly yesterday

CaffeineAddiction

Lies

You just dont love us

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer: I can not stop the mackeeper's installing by ninaalisa on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

tpu- by rene on Wordpress Widget problems to my site [MS]

NobodyNada

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on Wordpress Widget problems to my site.

Thomas Ward

20:01

pretty certain that's website spam plugging - see the user's username

and the domain in the link

but not casting feedback today

CaffeineAddiction

woot, new server just came in ... 48 cores, 192 gb of ram ... and a terabyte of SSD

im going to be busy for a while

rene

@NobodyNada I visited that site, everything works and it is riddled with ads for SEO in russian

Magisch

@ThomasWard if its spam its stunningly incompetent

Hanlons razor says this guy is just not that bright

NobodyNada

The guy's asking about what appears to be an actual problem, and he the question got an answer

"how do I build a spam website" isn't necessarily spam

Thomas Ward

@Magisch well, 'spam' is just advertising one's own site without disclosing affiliation and then plunking your own site in your username and in a link

Riker

20:03

@NobodyNada nice avatar, very handsome cat

NobodyNada

@Riker Thank you!

Thomas Ward

i don't see any text widgets that they mention

but this is why i'm not voting

because i'm not 100% sure it's true spam

Riker

@NobodyNada my cat looks pretty similar

Thomas Ward

leave it to the WP people.

rene

@NobodyNada yeah, OK. Problem is he isn't asking to build a spam website, he already did ;)

Riker

20:05

that's why I noticed

rene

@ThomasWard OK

NobodyNada

@Riker Your cat looks a lot like our other cat

M.A.R.

@Riker NobodyNada is your cat, duh

@NobodyNada quit spelling ''kat'' wrongly, cat

rene

@ThomasWard helpful Not a 100% spam post but helpful none-the-less! so @NobodyNada was right.

Riker

@M.A.R. lol

@NobodyNada your other cat must also be pretty handsome

I really like cats, my family has 3

Glorfindel

20:07

@M.A.R. actually, kat is the Dutch spelling.

Riker

@NobodyNada after checking your profile, it makes a bit more sense. :P I am a homeschooled christian teenager from southern california, apparently they tend to have cats

NobodyNada

@Riker Wow, neat!

Riker

yep

NobodyNada

@Riker Here she is

Riker

awwwwwwww

Thomas Ward

20:11

small kitty is small

just make sure she doesn't carve up my leg

Riker

lol

Thomas Ward

cats like to do that to me

@rene well maybe not until it was edited

wordpress.stackexchange.com/posts/256615/revisions

all the links, etc. were removed

CaffeineAddiction

Note to Self, @Riker and @NobodyNada are both FEDs

Thomas Ward

Note to self, assimilate @CaffeineAddiction into the hive mind.

NobodyNada

@ThomasWard They're outside-only cats, but we bring them into the garage at night. When they want to get our attention (maybe we've forgotten to feed them or it's morning and we haven't let them out yet), they scratch at a board by the door.

This is the result

Thomas Ward

20:14

heh

Mithrandir

Wait you guys aren't Borg? — AncientSwordRage ♦ Jun 21 '12 at 22:58

Thomas Ward

well i knew this one cat who was kind enough to gouge my leg pretty badly.

I say 'knew' because that cat died

@Mithrandir lol

CaffeineAddiction

@ThomasWard as a result?

Thomas Ward

@CaffeineAddiction the old axiom "If it bites me and it dies" applies, usually, in these cases, but in this case no

it was outside, wind was blowing fiercely...

... very very large tree branch on a dead tree got snapped of...

... heavy wood projectiles do damage, so...

... yeah...

CaffeineAddiction

kitty pancakes

"If it bites me and it dies" ... I would be out a few siblings

Magisch

20:17

@ThomasWard If you touched my cat I would end you so help me my toxoplasma gondii addled mind

Thomas Ward

I didn't say I'd touch the cat.

it is in fact random gravitational anomalies and fluctuations that would do it :P

i'm also severely allergic to cats so i stay away from them.

Magisch

If my cat died I would end anyone in the vicinity

Thomas Ward

Dogs, on the other hand, most of them like me.

A few don't but eh

Magisch

My cat is my treasure

Mithrandir

Does the big one here like you? :P

M.A.R.

20:19

@Glorfindel Dutch no English

Thomas Ward

@Mithrandir you mean the huge hell hound in the corner waiting to eat spammers, or some other dog?

'cause that hell hound is mine :P

Mithrandir

The one that Undoes everything...

2

Thomas Ward

ah that one.

he's lurking somewhere why don't you ask him :P

Mithrandir

@Andy add a period at the end of the section with the graphs

Andy

✓

M.A.R.

20:26

@Andy I was reminded of the famous ''shortest telegram evar''

NobodyNada

Good grief, this wiki page was vandalized in November and it hasn't been reverted until just now

Magisch

Undo is one of these small dogs

Mithrandir

*waits for two more Ask Ubuntu spam posts*

Glorfindel

waits for fifty more

Thomas Ward

waits for the flood gates to open

Mithrandir

20:33

The closest I am to a Marshall is on Science Fiction & Fantasy, with 249...

Nathaniel

Do you guys welcome copy/pastes of rude posts that don't seem to have triggered anything here from Smoke Detector?

Mithrandir

@Nathaniel Just !!/report it

NobodyNada

but if it's deleted he can't do that

M.A.R.

@Nathaniel If it was something we should've caught.

NobodyNada

maybe a link to a screenshot would be better?

Nathaniel

20:39

Yeah it's deleted; seems like it should have been. Let me see...

Thomas Ward

@Nathaniel yes we do, if it should have been caught

there are some odd cases like Unicode fubaring detections, though...

Nathaniel

imgur.com/a/Y3YGK

DavidPostill

@ThomasWard And a mod edited out the spam link :/ Maybe someone should have a word in his ear ...

M.A.R.

@Nathaniel That should've been triple caught or something

NobodyNada

@DavidPostill But we didn't agree on whether the post was spam, so editing the link out preserves the answer without damaging anything IMO

Thomas Ward

20:43

@Nathaniel can you get a raw of that and run it here with !!/test-a

please :)

since it's deleted I can't :P

Nathaniel

@M.A.R. That's what I figured, but I didn't see it in chat.

@ThomasWard Copy/paste of the text:

Thomas Ward

@Nathaniel any chance it was when Smokey was down when we bounced it briefly to fix the Pickle file problem?

Nathaniel

christianity is stupid and retarded, learn science you cuck fucks.

Thomas Ward

!!/test-a

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard Nothing to test

Thomas Ward

20:44

!!/test-a christianity is stupid and retarded, learn science you cuck fucks.

SmokeDetector

> Offensive answer detected
----------
Post - Offensive keyword: *fucks*

Thomas Ward

yes it should have.

M.A.R.

Why didn't it?

Mithrandir

It was down, I guess. *shrug*

Thomas Ward

not sure

@Nathaniel can you get me a link to what it was? The /a/ link, etc. trying to check MS

Nathaniel

20:45

christianity.stackexchange.com/a/55312

Mithrandir

Wasn't caught

Thomas Ward

looks like

maybe it was in the short time we had it down (3 minutes) to sync up the pickle extension fixes I pushed in

Nathaniel

UTC 19:48

Mithrandir

Thomas Ward

that was about an hour ago, which is when I shoved fixes in.

and when i accidentally'd smokey briefly.

Or, it just briefly desynced from the net or was handled before SMokey picked it up

When a post is handled before it's in Smokey's queue it's not going to show up

Which happens once in a while

NobodyNada

20:48

it would have been 1 min before chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/11540?m=35461307#35461307

Thomas Ward

possibly

Riker

@CaffeineAddiction lol

Nathaniel

@ThomasWard Okay, thanks for checking. Is there an idiot-proof set of keywords somewhere that I could take a look at to know how I can interact with Smoke Detector (given that I don't have any special permissions to my knowledge)?

Mithrandir

@Nathaniel github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Feedback-Guidance

Andy

The gist has been updated with the second false positive (and a screenshot to it). It also links to the retract flags via the api feature request. I think the biggest thing I'm looking for at this point is a graph of deletion times over the last month or so. That might be more useful in a few days though so we can better show the effects of 3 flags vs 1

M.A.R.

20:55

@Nathaniel ''k'' is for stuff that's spam or rude, ''n'' is for stuff that's NAA, ''f'' is for legit stuff, and ''v'' is for post vandalism.

Mithrandir

@Nathaniel You're blue. AFAIK, since you have a diamond, you have the same privileges that I do.

Andy

Feel free to take a look and proof read my grammar :)

Mithrandir

@Nathaniel run !!/amiprivileged

Nathaniel

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@Nathaniel Yes, you are a privileged user.

Ferrybig

20:56

All SE moderators are privileged by default

NobodyNada

@Andy "which was off topic anyway" should be "which were off topic anyway," now that there are two of them

Mithrandir

Exactly

M.A.R.

Grammar Nazis HQ

Andy

Do we need the phrase? Or is it better to just let the screenshots speak for themselves?

Mithrandir

@Nathaniel So check out the list of commands for users that do and don't have privs

Andy

20:58

updated anyway

M.A.R.

Where grammatically correct sentences are bred, and meta posts are made

Nathaniel

@Mithrandir Ah, there we go – perfect, thanks

M.A.R.

@Andy I would've done the latter, with a ''well . . . These are the false positives''

Thomas Ward

@Nathaniel github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands

NobodyNada

> In that time, we've had a two false positives

Nathaniel

21:00

@ThomasWard Thanks!

Thomas Ward

yup

DavidPostill

@Andy LOL. I was involved in both fps (my autoflag the first, and I edited the post in the second) ;p

Mithrandir

@ThomasWard You were ninja'd.

Andy

> Due to these false positives, we've disabled access to the internet for one user who seems to be involved in all of them

6

Thomas Ward

don't care :P

DavidPostill

21:02

@Andy rolflmao

Undo

@Andy I should be able to get that in metasmoke today or tomorrow, whenever I can find the intersection of downtime and a decent connection

SmokeDetector

fp- by NobodyNada

Thomas Ward

@SmokeDetector fp-

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 8846.

Thomas Ward

why did you restart

!!/errorlogs 50

SmokeDetector

21:13

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_abnf.py", line 371, in recv_strict
    bytes_ = self.recv(min(16384, shortage))

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 427, in _recv
    return recv(self.sock, bufsize)

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_socket.py", line 80, in recv
    bytes_ = sock.recv(bufsize)


HTTPError: 500 Server Error: Internal Server Error for url: chat.stackexchange.com/error?aspxerrorpath=/messages/35462963/…

Thomas Ward

wat

HTTP 500 error o.O

oh i think my date time is also out of skew :/

Mithrandir

Must stay out of SOBotics or I'll run out of SO flags

Riker

lol

Mithrandir

I only have 2 SO flags left today o_O

angussidney

Morning everyone

Riker

21:19

morning

Mithrandir

@angussidney Night

J F

o/ ~~morning~~ afternoon

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Is it beneficial to publish papers from previous labs during grad school? by OliveRon on academia.SE (@Wrzlprmft)

tpu- by DavidPostill

fp- by Mithrandir

M.A.R.

SD - F

@Mithrandir Noobs usually run out of flags. Pros usually don't. VERY pros usually do. Which are you? :)

Mithrandir

21:36

@M.A.R. I've raised 20 flags on SO in the past 12 hours, and I don't even use the site. I'll let you decide.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Eclipse doesn't find javax.swing by Bushdid911 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Eclipse doesn't find javax.swing by Bushdid911 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Eclipse doesn't find javax.swing by Bushdid911 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

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NobodyNada

yay free flags!

!!/isblu stackoverflow.com/users/7571400

SmokeDetector

@NobodyNada User is blacklisted (7571400 on stackoverflow.com).

J F

Anyone have input on this?

10 hours ago, by J F

What do you think about adding InstantClick (or something similar) to the https://charcoal-se.org website?

NobodyNada

that's really cool!

Nathaniel

21:51

!!/notify 1334 christianity.stackexchange.com-

J F

I’m wondering — is there any way to use actual templates for charcoal-se.org instead of copy-pasting every time something changes?

Nathaniel

!!/notify 38408 latin.stackexchange.com

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