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12:00 AM
@RyanM There should be a flag queue you have access to now. (Ooh, shiny, an /admin URL!) This'll show any currently pending flags that you can vote on as a >10k network user, but it's really not worth keeping open. As NobodyNada mentioned, chat flags are swept up by network mods really quickly, almost as fast as you can preview them through the little blue notification by your avatar in the lower left.
 
@Spevacus Ah, yep, I can in fact access that.
 
I think it takes ~10 "valid" votes by 10kers on a flag to delete it. It also incurs a very short chat suspension, and I'm sure it also raises some sort of flag for mods to review... Citation needed on that one, though.
 
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12:38 AM
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@Spevacus 6 net "valid", including the initial flag, or one "valid" response from a moderator, similar to red flags. The difference is that "invalid" responses are counter-flags and reduce the net count.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Can't connect flask sqlAlchemy to the mysql database by HASKA on stackoverflow.com
 
@DanielWiddis @Spevacus Autoflags are just that: completely automatic. If we waited for a human response, then the flags would really be sock-puppet flags, not automatic flags. We don't want to run a huge sock-puppet ring, so the flags which are not manually raised by individual users are only automatic.
 
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@Makyen I feel like if full-auto flags aren't sockpuppeting, then waiting on even more certainty before doing the same thing has gotta be OK?
 
12:54 AM
@DanielWiddis Yes, spam posts are shown at the top, and more flags are prioritized, but the mod has to refresh the page to see them (i.e. the list in the page isn't "live").
On pages other than the flag listing, there's no specific indication that the queue contains active spam flags. For most sites, that doesn't matter, because their flag queues generally sit at zero. On SO, the flag queue usually is >100 (posts with flags, not individual flags), so there's no way to know that the queue now has spam in it, other than looking at the flag queue pages.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (72): How to cook coffee without a coffee maker? by Gwen Rivera on coffee.SE
 
1:10 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer (85): How do I reverse engineer .so files found in android APKs? by alexay on reverseengineering.SE
 
@thesecretmaster The difference is that waiting for a user to give a TP response is basically making that user's response equal to putting N flags on the post, which is, very clearly, sock-puppetry. If it's completely automatic, then it has nothing to do with the response which an individual gives to a specific post (i.e. it's not allowing a user's actions to cause more than their own flags to be raised).
Yes, user actions prior to when the post is seen or when it exists do impact if the automatic flags are raised, or even if it's detected, but not actions after the post is scanned (i.e. not based on someone giving feedback).
Note that people have voiced concerns over autoflagging being sock-puppetry multiple times. We've had to make it really clear to people that the autoflagging is completely automatic and not based on the actions of a person about a specific post which is then flagged.
The most recent time this came up was one of the blow-ups with Daniil (specifically the one about spam waves), which started in the TL and was also in here. All told, that took several people and several hours to deal with.
Yes, it would make things a bit more accurate for the autoflagging to wait a few seconds to see if MS gets FP feedback and should not autoflag, and that might be skirting the sock-puppetry line sufficiently, but would delay autoflagging a bit.
However, if SE really cared about autoflagging accuracy, then they would spend the 1/4 of a dev-day (maybe as much as a day, but it should be quite simple) to add retracting flags to the SE API, which would allow us to retract autoflags when we get an FP response (and which we'd implement very soon after it was possible, given we've been asking for it for years). [Yes, I'm a bit frustrated about that one.]
 
1:25 AM
@SmokeDetector f
 
@SmokeDetector Undisclosed affiliation. See this post on SO by that user, which states they own the site.
 
1:42 AM
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!!/report coffee.stackexchange.com/q/5367 "This question is a spam seed, which was posted here intentionally to allow the posting and acceptance of the answer by Gwen Rivera which links to coffee-statistics.com. The question OP states in this deleted SO question (a record of it is also available on MS) that they own the site the answer links to."
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): How to cook coffee without a coffee maker? by John White on coffee.SE
 
@SmokeDetector I've custom mod-flagged.
 
2:02 AM
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Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
 
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2:19 AM
@VictorVosMottor I realized I didn't say something important in my earlier response: You've done nothing wrong. Your curiosity and confusion are both understandable and fine. It's just a bad situation, to which you have not negatively contributed (i.e. you have no responsibility for creating the situation and it's no reflection on you). Unfortunately, the situation would, potentially, be made worse by going over the whole thing here again to explain it to you.
My recommendation is to just forget about it, but you're welcome to search and read the transcript.
 
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3:01 AM
 
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@Makyen I custom-flagged the answer two days ago. What should we do about spam seeds that get legitimate answers?
(also to clarify, that flag is still pending)
 
3:17 AM
@Makyen Thank you for this very detailed and educational response. I think jokes have been made about your monologues but I, for one, really appreciate all this detail.
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened url in body (45): Code/plugin/module to create PDF of website calendar by Hazelnut on webmasters.SE
 
3:40 AM
@Makyen My thoughts echo Daniel's above. Your responses are always well written, detailed, and meaningful. It's extremely easy to follow what you're trying to say because you communicate so effectively. It's a great asset to have.
 
+1 to the above. You've convinced me that my initial suggestion was incorrect.
 
Thank you, all. I'm glad I'm able to be helpful.
As to the jokes about the monologues, I've always found them to be in good taste. I don't mind them, and usually laugh, or at least smile, with people about it. I fully accepted, quite a while ago, that I tend to be substantially more verbose than most people. There are times when I do try to express myself in much shorter wording, but it's not something that comes naturally to me. :)
 
4:00 AM
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4:26 AM
@RyanM Other than custom flag, there's really not much we can do. It's something that needs to be put in the hands on the site's moderators. The overall preference is to not destroy value while not giving the OP the reputation benefit from what was intended as spam.
As a moderator, I'd have to think about it for a while and look at the specifics of the situation, upon which I'd base my response/actions. I'd at least consider all of: delete the question; delete/destroy the user; convert the question to community wiki; merge the question into an existing one, or create one for that to happen (saves the answers); and contacting the CM team to ask for disassociation.
Of those, I believe that deleting the question, converting it to a community wiki, or merging into another question, even if I had to create the question, would all be in line with the CC BY-SA license. Deleting the question would result in the site was losing the answers, so largely depends on how much value those have. The answers could be saved by finding, or making, a question into which they could be merged, or making the current question community wiki.
Forcibly dissociating the question really isn't consistent with the license when we're planning on continuing to distribute the question. Deleting/destroying the user really depends on if the user has given any content which isn't spam/R/A and/or done something else that has indicated they are here to harm the network (including spam) and/or act in violation of the TOS.
 
4:36 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer, toxic answer detected (253): Lock a channel in discord but users are alowed to see the channel by UwU femboy on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to implement DFA union in python? by PancakeVE on stackoverflow.com
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Rapsberry Pi 4 with RTC and Ubuntu 20.04 by Duane Kerzic on askubuntu.com
 
@thesecretmaster Back in the Big Debate, I tried to get it set up like this. Nope, people wouldn't have it
That was not a time when sanity reigned.
 
5:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected in title (258): 9928097710 black maGic specialist in NOidA by online solution on superuser.com
 
5:12 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, +4 more (679): Keto Burning Australia A Way To Burn Down From Fat by Keto Burning Australia on meta.SE
 
!!/watch-number- +91-9928097710
!!/watch-number- 9928097710
 
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5:14 AM
!!/watch-force- keto[\W_]*+burning(?:[\W_]*+(?:australia|\d++|[\da-f]{5,}+)s?)*
 
5:36 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad phone number in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in username, potentially problematic ns configuration in body, +1 more (175): Where is the new upcoming project in Delhi by Godrej Properties? by Godrej Vikhroli Mumbai on mathoverflow.net
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in body (1): What are the notes that this singer is singing? ✏️ by Hello Kitty on music.SE
iBug/Coral: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
teward/Osiris: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
Restart: API quota is 17931.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +3 more (785): Meta Meta CBD Oil CBD Oil Boost CBD Oil Boost Meta Boost by BrithDhloe on superuser.com
 
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That's obviously off-topic, it has "Meta" in the title three times and yet they still posted on the main site...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at beginning of body, +2 more (440): sites.google.com/site/ketoburningnzreviews/ by Caseyfdaniel18 on askubuntu.com
 
6:04 AM
@SmokeDetector still up!
 
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PR#4936 ("Sonic the Masked Werehog: Watch mowersboy\.com") opened by SmokeDetector
 
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6:22 AM
@Undo Reeaaaallly SE should just let us have direct input to their internal spam detection magic :P
 
6:36 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more (685): Alpine CBD Oil :Non-habit forming by helirwook on superuser.com
 
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6:55 AM
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer, mostly non-latin answer, non-latin link in answer, blacklisted user (234): Using Canon xf100 as webcam, hardware needed? by Mrshabake Compony on video.SE
 
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7:19 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, potentially bad keyword in body (195): Do you need a math assignment help expert? by Roxane Fabin on meta.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Do you need Economics Assignment Help? by Lucas Miller on meta.SE
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ns for domain in answer (76): React Native: build Login Screen by Garima k on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ns for domain in answer (76): React-Navigation with Login Screen by Garima k on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Disable bootstrap nav hover effect on window size chnage ✏️ by Tinku on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (94): Simplifying iterated sums where the upper bound is the next index by Assignment Help on math.SE
 
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8:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): DingConnect Response was success but top_up not made to the recipient number by Sunil Deshmukh on stackoverflow.com
 
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@Makyen Reminds me of the famous quote, "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time." Attributed to Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others.
 
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8:11 AM
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): collectstatic collecting static files but they're not loading on webpage by Daniel Müller Navarro on stackoverflow.com
 
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@SmokeDetector Should have been a comment
 
8:32 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (45): 4次元データをpythonで図示したいです。 by dfgujnk on ja.stackoverflow.com
 
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@SmokeDetector Translation: "I would like to create a 3D graph by overlaying [Spectrogram data] [1]." with link to picture.
 
8:45 AM
@Makyen At the risk of beating a dead horse, I want to make one more attempt to reply simply/clearly regarding your earlier statement "I'm saying that if you have total posts = #TP + #FP, then with a fixed %TP, the ratio of #FP to #TP isn't going to change, because the %TP describes that ratio".
To be clear, the %TP isn't fixed globally, it varies according to the threshold used, and that threshold impacts the fraction of the total available posts (all future posts with scores >= 1). So you can "Fix" the %TP ratio of autoflagged posts, but the number of autoflagged posts increases.
Using the simplified numbers, while 10% of 100 is 10 and 10% of 200 is 20, the 100 and 200 in that example aren't the total number of posts. They are a subset of all posts (which you note in your later reply, with caveats about future, randomness, etc. with which I agree).
So there could be, in your original example, 1000 total (future) posts that the system evaluates in X timeframe, 500 of which are tp posts and 500 fp, and we are only autoflagging 100 at the higher threshold. At a higher threshold, only 100 total posts are considered for autoflagging, with that 10% rate meaning 90 tp + 10 fp + 410 tp not autoflagged + 490 fp not autoflagged.
Without changing anything, if you lowered the threshold to get 200 total autoflagged posts, your fp rate would increase, say to 15% of the 200, giving 170 tp + 30 fp + 330 tp not autoflagged + 470 fp not autoflagged.
Now, assume an improvement gives us only 5% FP rate (cut in half) and reduces the total autoflagged posts by about 10% (from 100 to 90). There are still 1000 total posts in the system, so the final numbers are like 86 tp + 4 fp + 414 tp not autoflagged + 496 fp not autoflagged.
But by lowering score threshold we get a larger percentage of the overall total in the system. Say it's now 200 by the time you hit that 10% rate again. So you would have 180 tp + 20 fp + 320 tp not flagged + 480 fp not flagged. The 10% of 200 vs. 10% of 100 is constant, but you've moved from 410 tp going unflagged to 320 tp going unflagged, a net increase of 90 tp flagged, at the cost of 10 more fp flagged (our accuracy ratio).
Obviously the numbers aren't that extreme, but with the 99.75% threshold requirement we're sure of a 399 tp to 1 fp ratio of the increased posts. We don't know exactly what that increase is, but looking historically at only the posts that were already autoflagged it looks like we get more... plus there would be potentially even more than that.
(Up to the limit of posts the system actually scans.) Due to the complexities of the various autoflagging rules (site filters, numbers of reasons) and the varying nature of future spam vs. current reasons/scoring, we can't know exactly. But I'm confident in my position that the number of tp flags autoflagged will increase under a revised scoring system.
... and thus ends my attempt to take over the monologue crown.
 
9:02 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): How to add gift card like amazon balance in WordPress by Chirimirko on stackoverflow.com
 
We already decided to bundle the monologues from Makyen. I see a second series coming: The monologues: annotated by @DanielWiddis
 
@rene Illustrations by rene. (Out of focus, of course.)
 
LOL
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in answer, bad ns for domain in answer, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user (429): Comparing the hospital stay of two surgical methods by priya submissions on stats.SE
 
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9:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (63): Why they change voice "type" when dubbing a film? by filmyduniya on movies.SE
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ip for hostname in body, +3 more (396): How Does Truvalast in France Work? by trvalst on meta.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in title (1): Patym Money Online Coding Question | September 2020 | Bangalore by Rajan kumasr soni on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector Undisclosed affiliation
 
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9:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +4 more (590): Keto Burning Australia : Get Offer Now by marysbelash on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (45): Thuốc sinh lý Ngựa Thái VIP có tốt không? by Ngọc Sơn on stackoverflow.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (293): What Are The Benefits Of Using Truvalast Testo Booster [ME] In Austalia? by truvalastpika on askubuntu.com
 
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10:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, +2 more (411): How to display comments or sub records in Reactjs by siyaram yadav on stackoverflow.com
 
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!!/watch- filmyduniya\.in
 
!!/watch- mrshabake\.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Should I only let my TV connect to the guest WiFi? by Headbank on security.SE
 
!!/watch- suckhoesinhlyaz\.blogspot\.com
 
10:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title (97): jcastnetwork.org/podcast/updated-watch-after-we-collided-after-2-2020-online-full-free-hd by htcrrtd on apple.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
'!!/watch jcastnetwork\.org
 
11:06 AM
teward/Osiris: SE WebSocket: recovered from websocket._exceptions.WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
 
11:29 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How do we know attaining complete liberation from dukkha is possible? by Samana Johann on buddhism.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad ip for hostname in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in title, +4 more (595): atozketodiet.com/keto-burning-australia/ by qghmbkoughdq on askubuntu.com
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body, blacklisted user (73): Use Buku and we promise that you will forget others apps and tally etc by BUKU on meta.SE
 
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11:43 AM
teward/Osiris: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 52d2551 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of suckhoesinhlyaz\.blogspot\.com by Mast) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)
Restart: API quota is 15767.
 
!!/test David Attenborough CBD
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/test davidattenboroughcbd
 
> No whitespace in title
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No whitespace in title - No whitespace or formatting in title
 
@bmike Do you have an MS report with that?
Ah, nvm.
 
11:52 AM
@SmokeDetector k this is CBD marketing spam
 
@bmike: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.
 
It's absolutely spam.
 
yes - looking to add watch list. Still learning the ropes
 
No problem. Do you want to keep trying or should we help? :-)
 
!!/watch davidattenboroughcbd
 
11:53 AM
@bmike You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4937 for you.
 
PR#4937 ("bmike: Watch davidattenboroughcbd") opened by SmokeDetector
 
@Mast how’s that? Please point out tips
 
I'm looking what adding optional whitespace is doing with it.
 
Bingo , the preferred regexp and such is much better when hand crafter, I rarely add rules so I defer to those closer to the code, here.
 
Like david[\W_]*+attenborough[\W_]*+cbd
 
11:55 AM
Can you still see the original post now that I nuked it?
 
If it was fed into MS, we can see it forever.
 
Phew, so I only need to report it before nuking if it’s out of the blue, no reports yet...
 
Yes, !!/report <post url>
 
Sincere thanks to everyone involved here. Makes moderation so much less tedious
 
@tripleee I want to modify PR 4937 to comply with our usual notation with optional whitespaces. How do I do that in a straight-forward manner? I'm logged in at GH.
I can comment, approve and request changes. I think I'm looking for a button that says 'suggest changes' instead.
 
12:01 PM
Files changed > Review changes > Request changes, perhaps?
but that wouldn't change the watch
you need write access for that
 
Can I put a PR on a PR to change the PR?
I'm core/blacklister so the really simple thing would be to approve the watch, unwatch and add a revised watch... But that's not pretty.
 
...or close the PR and add your own watch
 
Yes.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Want Incoming Call Center Software ✏️ by Mary Yur on softwarerecs.SE
 
!!/watch- davidattenboroughcbd(?#sites.google.com)
 
!!/reject 4937 "It's a good start, but we'll add optional whitespace to the regex"
 
@Mast Closed pull request #4937.
 
!!/watch- david[\W_]*+attenborough[\W_]*+cbd
 
12:09 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Virtual Technology by news cafe on superuser.com
 
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Good call, thanks for the help @mast - I was going to see if I could change the PR in GitHub direct, but using the automation here is faster on the draw.
 
@SmokeDetector Username in domain
@bmike Yea, no problem. Feel free to ask if you need any help :-)
We do a lot straight from chat.
 
10-4 love it
 
teward/Osiris: SE WebSocket: recovered from websocket._exceptions.WebSocketConnectionClosedException: Connection is already closed.
 
12:20 PM
!!/alive
 
@Mast ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in body (1): What are the notes that this singer is singing? ✏️ by Hello Kitty on music.SE
 
@SmokeDetector naa- at least, potentially more problematic.
 
12:36 PM
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@Mast I guess you need to have Github write access to make changes to a PR. Technically I suppose you could clone the branch locally, and create a new PR to supersede the old one. If the PR is trivial, propably just create a new PR and reject the old one. Or add the watch and close the PR as dupe
Not at my computer so can't really investigate properly; maybe there's a way to suggest changes to a PR even without direct commit access
 
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12:53 PM
@Mast docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/… seems vaguely useful but I guess a committer then needs to approve the suggested change
@Mast oh moot now I see
!!/approve 4935
 
!!/approve 4909
 
New scoring statistical analysis has been updated. Since pictures are worth a thousand words, it works well in my monologue competition with @Makyen and I think addresses the more tp/more fp question with some math behind it.
Bottom line: The revised scoring applied over the 4-year post history would have caught 1.92% more of the 170K spam posts, or 3272 more spam autoflagged. There would have been 232 false positives. At the 0.0025 rate, applied to the additional flagged posts, that would be an increase of 8 fp's.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): ReactJS - How to use comments? by sanaya on stackoverflow.com
 
1:01 PM
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Interesting that flagged nareshit.com ... I wonder if it was the domain or the unfortunate word it spells.
 
1:12 PM
!!/watch newscafe247\.com
 
@JeffSchaller You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4938 for you.
 
PR#4938 ("Jeff Schaller: Watch newscafe247\.com") opened by SmokeDetector
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@tripleee For next time.
@DanielWiddis Naresh-IT
@tripleee Who do have GH write access?
 
Yep. I know. I'm just wondering what actually flagged in the regexp.
 
!!/bisect nareshit.com
 
1:24 PM
@Mast Matched by nareshit\.com on line 23266 of watched_keywords.txt
 
Sep 9 at 9:06, by SmokeDetector
PR#4698 ("Mast: Watch nareshit\.com") opened by SmokeDetector
 
@DanielWiddis Initially caught for Username in Domain and triggering on another keyword we were already keeping an eye on.
 
@DanielWiddis I'm curious how you see metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/review/posts/151158 as red-flaggable. The criteria I think of don't apply here, so I'm wondering what I'm missing.
 
1:28 PM
@JeffSchaller Comment stated vandalism.
 
@JeffSchaller I thought that was an automatic tp? Or only nonsense?
 
@DanielWiddis indeed, which would be flaggable on the site, but I wasn't sure if this project would/should catch the post itself ?
 
Yeah, you're right. I'll fix.
 
> Self-vandalism is where a user vandalises their own post by replacing all its useful content with something like “xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx”, or “deleted deleted deleted”. For self-vandalism, use tp- (or one of its aliases, such as v, vand or vandalism). At a system level, we’d want to catch and block people doing this, but it’s not worth blacklisting the user because it’s usually a one-time incident. Most users, when warned, don’t do it again.
 
1:30 PM
well, I'm certainly not an expert on this project, so I was wondering if I needed adjusting
 
@Mast right, but the post above didn't trigger my "vandalism" alarm
 
@JeffSchaller Vandalism is hard to catch sometimes. We can't catch them all.
 
Well I fp'd it and am going back to bed, It's now split feedback so someone else can resolve :)
 
@Mast understood; I guess I'm mainly curious if this project tries to catch (future) posts based on text in this one we're reviewing
 
1:31 PM
Sometimes it's subtle.
IMO this is vandalism.
> At a system level, we’d want to catch and block people doing this
So in general, yes.
But this particular case? We are not equipped to catch it automatically.
 
but that's blocking them from doing xxxxxxx. Not from posting sane text.
 
We'd need a dedicated check, in code not in regex, to find edits that greatly reduce the amount of content posted and then find a way to reduce the huge amount of FP that would give.
So while we want to catch it, it's really hard.
Don't beat yourself up if we miss a couple.
 
I guess it's opinion-based as to whether this particular edit was vandalism? I don't see the usual "xxxx" replacement, but as the OP attempting to answer in the Question
 
But that particular post was vandalism, should be tp and is nigh impossible to catch automatically.
Whether it was intended as vandalism or not is not really relevant, I think. It is vandalism.
 
fp feedback received on [MS] What is the theme of Glasslip anime?
 
1:38 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): nginx rtmp ubuntu18.04 ffmpeg transcode problem by Muhammet Halit Parlak on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in url body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, +4 more (579): Zotrim Herbal Review best product weight loss by salinasgeoss on meta.SE
 
tpu- feedback received
 
@Mast I think it should be visible on Github
 
@tripleee Thanks. Now I'm core & blacklister, I can probably get write access to GH?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): Issue with ZIP3 geojson ✏️ by user3775533 on gis.SE
 
1:55 PM
@JeffSchaller @DanielWiddis Turns out it wasn't a single case of vandalism either. rev3, rev3, rev2.
Absolutely TP.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer (168): "Lackierte" und "Anstreicher" by Paul Frost on german.SE
 
tp- feedback received
 
@SmokeDetector Vandalism, removed.
 
@Mast Registered answer as true positive. If you want to blacklist the poster, use trueu or tpu.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (45): Converting a csv file to a directory of images with labels? by SREERAG CHANDRAN on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, link at beginning of answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (214): Why does google vision take so much time to train the model? by quinlove on stackoverflow.com
 
tpu- feedback received
 
2:04 PM
!!/bisect barxbuddy
 
@Mast Matched by barx[\W_]*+buddy(?:[\W_]*+(?:review|\d++|[\da-f]{4,}+))* on line 2308 of bad_keywords.txt
 
!!/bisect semenax
 
@Mast 'semenax' is not caught by a blacklist or watchlist item.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword- semenax
 
Makyen/EC2-linux: Executing automatic scheduled reboot.
 
2:06 PM
11 TP, no FP
 
fp- feedback received on [MS] Issue with ZIP3 geojson
 
2:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, no whitespace in body, repeating characters in body (262): Bash script shows changes in console but not in file | How do i save changes? ✏️ by houndedfella on stackoverflow.com
 
tp- feedback received
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in answer, bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad ip for hostname in answer, +1 more (361): Building .sln in Azure DevOps that has both .NET Framework and .NET Core projects in the same solution file by kuldeep on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector Another one of those cases where we may want to exclude certain sites for certain checks.
But we can live with a couple FP on such.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in username (88): Enterprise level framework for Hybrid Mobile App development? by istudio seo on stackoverflow.com
 
2:35 PM
tpu- feedback received
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (61): Windows 10 Search not working - after privacy tweaks by Junaid on superuser.com
 
tpu- feedback received
 
@SmokeDetector Plagiarised from the link at the end.
 
@VictorVosMottor Post 1: This does not look like spam
 
2:44 PM
Hmmmmm...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (45): react ag-grid onCellClicked data re-render by LEE.SANG.MIN on stackoverflow.com
 
But it is kinda offensive
 
fp- feedback received
 
@VictorVosMottor can the offensive part be edited out?
 
@double-beep yeah
@double-beep edited. should i blacklist this user or not ?
 
2:47 PM
@VictorVosMottor then it shouldn't be reported, as it's a repairable offensive post
 
Tranlsation : "The fact is that I can not spread the text on different SIDES OF THIS DAMN SITE I HATE CODING FUCK IT. HOW DO I PLACE TEXT IN THE CORNERS OF THE SITE IN THE CLASSES menu-right and menu-left?"
Yeah it can be edited out...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in title, blacklisted user (265): www.mynorthbaynow.com/advert/watch-after-we-collided-after-2-full-movie-online-for-free-hd by htcrrtd on apple.SE
 
tpu- feedback received
 
@Mast it's the keys to the kingdom so I think some activity in non-trivial PRs would be useful just to acquaint yourself with the broaler codebase before we go there
 
@tripleee Oh, sure, I'm not going to rush anything.
 
2:52 PM
but keep up the good work and it won't be far away
 
At least now I know how it works. Thanks again for the explanation.
 
!!/watch mynorthbaynow\.com
 
@VictorVosMottor You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4939 for you.
 
PR#4939 ("Victor VosMottor: Watch mynorthbaynow\.com") opened by SmokeDetector
 
@Mast please approve ;)
 
2:53 PM
I was already working on it @Victor
!!/approve 4939
 
Had to double check it caught what it was supposed to catch and wouldn't be getting a truckload of FP.
But this wasn't a particularly hard one :-)
 
3:04 PM
Hi @Jeff
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, blacklisted user (132): windows search service is not working well by Junaid on superuser.com
 
fp- feedback received
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer (64): How to proceed with my piano playing? by filmyduniya on music.SE
 
@Mast I find this question. Translation:
" Actually, the question is:
Why do most programmers love cats?
The answer to the question will help to identify the necessary style elements when developing a gui "
An' it is asked by a user with 1,661k
What to do with it ?
Maybe the account was hacked.
Or maybe it is just a joker...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): About DNS resolve domain by debugallthetime on stackoverflow.com
 
3:11 PM
fp- feedback received
 
@VictorVosMottor If they do it again, it might be a troll.
But 1 post doesn't make a troll.
 
Should i !!/addblu him ?
@Mast
 
@VictorVosMottor Post 1: This does not look like spam
 
@VictorVosMottor User blacklisted (301499 on ru.stackoverflow.com).
 
3:14 PM
I guess i should.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer (2): Is it possible to travel to Co To island, Vietnam without a special permit now? by simonw1986 on travel.SE
 
fp- feedback received
 
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