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12:00 PM
@bertieb nope :(
 
No MS link either way, MS is down for now
 
Pity!
Oh
 
Also, to reduce interference, this instance only posts to this room and Charcoal Test, I've disabled all other rooms
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Mostly punctuation marks in body: need help to decompile a lua file by Shahoriar Abir on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Self watering pot with no hole by Farhan Mohammad on gardening.SE
 
@iBot why
 
12:02 PM
@iBug Body - Position 69-86: sijigreenhouse.com
 
!!/standby iBug when the real Smokey is ready.
 
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster iBug/EC2
 
huh, maximum CPU credit accumulation increased to 144 for t2.micro?
 
12:05 PM
Yeah, setting the other instance
 
@iBug Do you know if SD ever started storing cookies for chat login?
 
@thesecretmaster never
 
Because the captcha is a pain.
 
!!/status
 
@iBug Running since 11:57:39 UTC (8 minutes, 21 seconds)
 
12:06 PM
Any chance you could do that? You get 2 login attempts per ~5 minutes per ip otherwise.
 
might need quartata, I'm not familiar with that part
 
I know quart mentioned it a while back -- I think he thought of the idea in the first place.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Gmail media query alternative by Christián Szeman on stackoverflow.com
 
@iBot why
 
@iBug Body - Position 3825-3861: hack] a {color:#275100!important;text
 
12:09 PM
@iBot f
 
This situation is prolly a reasonable argument to add some more runners.
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster iBug/EC2
 
@thesecretmaster if there is a systemic problem, more runners with the same problem will not help at all
though I suppose it would be useful to have runners with owners in different time zones
 
@thesecretmaster This situation is probably a reasonable argument for a fallback server for Metasmoke.
 
though I suppose it would be useful to have runners with owners in different time zones
 
12:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Chinese character in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, messaging number in body, messaging number in title, +2 more: 【办加拿大毕业证】专业制作加拿大圣力嘉学院Seneca毕业证成绩单Q薇501058216\办加拿大Seneca毕业证学历认证专业制作加拿大学位证书Seneca College by dyellebfd001 on travel.SE
 
I mean, I (and prolly Art) can spin up a metasmoke instance, but it's not that helpful since SD would need new keys to talk to it.
 
@iBot k
 
Anyone else not getting any chatrooms load in, aside from apparently this one after the ton of mod flags?
 
@thesecretmaster not to mention the data merging that needs to take place afterwards.
 
@Glorfindel We could just drop that data -- that's what we do now.
MS doesn't take in posts retroactively
 
12:15 PM
so what's the benefit of a backup MS instance?
 
Makes Smokey happy
Without keys, there isn't much of a benefit
 
@iBot k
@iBot gone
 
@micsthepick Reports from SmokeDetector in Charcoal HQ are generally kept as records. If you really need to delete a report, please use sd delete-force. See this note on message deletion for more details.
 
oops
I meant that the post is gone
 
Fresh install coming up as soon as I resolve hardware issues of all things...
 
12:17 PM
After MS up iBot feed back is merged with MS database ? Just curiosity .
 
yay for hw issues
 
@Shree Nope, we'll have no records for those posts
(besides chat)
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in username: Passing in data using graphql fragment ✏️ by Isaac Seo on stackoverflow.com
 
@iBot f
 
(TL;DR: USB stick borked, messing everything up on my end)
 
12:18 PM
sd f
 
@Mithrandir A cloud server is much better
 
this is why you run an operating system off of a hard disk, instead of a USB
 
Eh, I think a usb stick is fine for something small and not 24/7 like this.
 
yeh
 
12:19 PM
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster iBug/EC2
 
I could fire up my old... wait, that laptop is in use by my brother
 
USB sticks are only for installation, not live running, IMO
 
exactly, right?
 
@SmokeDetector the heck?
 
12:20 PM
did your computer just recover?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Redial Last Incoming Call without Unlocking Phone by Deplivars1994 on apple.SE
 
@iBot why
 
Post manually reported by user *Glorfindel* in room *Charcoal HQ*.

Body - Position 189-204: casinoscroll.com
 
*shrugs* I haven't touched Tauremornalómë in... a while
 
12:22 PM
@Glorfindel why
... I don't see the .com
 
My secondary server is also online now, though it doesn't appear here.
 
Couldn't you have chosen a less... complex name?
What does that even mean?
 
Tauremornalómë appears to be totally borked.
 
@micsthepick there's a link to casinoscroll.com
 
12:23 PM
@ByteCommander Fangorn Forest
 
is it hidden?
 
@ByteCommander google it, Mithrandir obviously uses Middle Earth names
 
now what's a Fangorn though :P
 
ctrl-f does not seem to see it
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Username similar to website in answer: How to fix "Invalid API key format" while implement the comet-chat in iOS by CometChat on stackoverflow.com
 
12:24 PM
@micsthepick not for me:
 
@iBot f
 
oh, It is deleted
duh
this is the thing with not having MS
 
Maybe I can start my own MS, but that's a lot for me to do
 
So, if Mith's instance is borked, we've got 2 options: Use iBot for the next ~hour until Undo gets here (we then lose a ton of rooms), or give somebody Smokey creds to cover for the next hour.
 
12:25 PM
... have fun if/when you do
 
no I'm not planning to do that, I need more knowledge about that
 
@iBug Running a MS instance isn't super helpful right now, because all the smokeys would need new MS keys and prolly other config fun I'm forgetting.
 
@thesecretmaster at least when this apocalypse is over we have some data to merge into the live MS, if that's going to be useful
 
@thesecretmaster you don't really need any creds to run your own bot MS-less
 
We probably don't want integration with another MS instance unless Undo goes nuts
 
12:27 PM
@iBug I don't think we've done that in the past
 
if iBot can stay until Undo wakes up, that would be my suggestion
 
@thesecretmaster yeah, so no need at all, for now
 
I don't see a reason to start doing it
a few hours of data is not real important
 
I think my EC2 is stable enough to stay up 'til Undo's back
 
thanks, let's try that
 
12:28 PM
STATUS: Currently we're running (on Mithrandir/Alqualondë or Henders/EC2) with metasmoke disabled in the config. This is all temporary until Undo saves the day.
Should we pin something to let people know?
 
I also have a backup server, but with higher network latency to the United States
 
@Mithrandir so is there a problem with Tauremornalómë actually?
@thesecretmaster done
 
Thanks
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fe28250 (tripleee: Typo in format string --autopull) (running on Continuous Integration. If you're seeing this, create a config file with sane stuff in it.)
 
@tripleee I'm not sure. Tauremornalómë is dead now.
 
12:29 PM
???????
 
@SmokeDetector whoops
 
!!/location
 
@micsthepick iBug/EC2
 
Running on Continuous Integration???
[dev-on-ci]
 
probably means some instance (Tauremornalómë I guess) is running without any configuration file by mistake
 
12:31 PM
I know.
 
that'd be Alqualondë now
 
it wasn't responding to the !!/location anyway so I'm guessing it's a dud
 
probably got killed before it could respond
 
yeah, forgot to rename config, then I killed it, now I'm being captcha'd
 
Quick message: I'll remain pingable until I explicitly say "good night" (go to sleep) or after Undo's back and everything's back to normal.
 
12:32 PM
I think we're fine for the next hour
 
@iBug you are at home right?
 
Thank God it isn't spam hour now
 
!!/rev
 
@micsthepick Home, with both my laptop and my phone on, decent network availability
 
12:34 PM
do you want to !!/pull your latest changes?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: goldencondor.org/tonaki-tinnitus-protocol by tonakitinnitusprotocol on ham.SE
 
@iBot k
 
@iBot k
 
@iBot why
 
12:35 PM
@Mithrandir Body - Position 141-149: akurat.co, Position 270-278: akurat.co
 
@iBot k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: My TP-Link TG-3269 I not been recognized on Ubuntu 18 and 16 by Guilherme Carvalho on askubuntu.com
 
@iBot f
 
Is there any point in feeding back right now?
 
no
well, other than blacklisting users
 
12:38 PM
@Glorfindel and preventing more FPs, but
FPs are not recorded on MS, so less important
 
So tpu is still useful
 
!!/reboot
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7c06a99 (iBug: Switch to broad exception for MS downtime) (running on iBug/EC2)
Restart: API quota is 19559.
 
well, the code didn't fail and the pull succeeded
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7c06a99 (iBug: Switch to broad exception for MS downtime) (running on Mithrandir/Alqualondë)
Restart: API quota is 19938.
 
12:42 PM
Ooh, dueling Smokies [popcorn]
 
I'm thinking feedback is vaguely useful for communicating with others in this room
 
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
@thesecretmaster iBug/EC2
 
@tripleee sometimes, when it's not clear if something is spam or not.
 
12:43 PM
Ooooo
 
so if somebody disagrees with the first feedback you might notice
 
good for Mith
 
so do we want to standby Alqua?
 
!!/location
 
@micsthepick iBug/EC2
 
12:44 PM
@micsthepick Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in username: Fortran: reading missing data from a file by DreamCream on stackoverflow.com
 
I don't object running both
 
Looks like iBot's being a little faster
 
sd why
 
@micsthepick [:46500158] That's not a report.
 
12:45 PM
@micsthepick [:46500159] Username - Position 1-10: DreamCream
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in username: Fortran: reading missing data from a file by DreamCream on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
so the delay may not credit to MS
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in username: Reading missing data from a file ✏️ by DreamCream on stackoverflow.com
 
waffles
 
12:45 PM
@Mithrandir That's prolly just because the queues aren't synced.
 
@iBot f
 
@iBot f
 
oops
 
It's almost like little kids fighting. "Stop repeating me!" "No, you stop repeating me!"
 
I found a way to temporarily "stop" my instance
 
12:47 PM
My instance also has Perspective enabled, FWIW.
 
I also have my own perspective key :)
 
!!/tea
 
@micsthepick brews a cup of jasmine tea for @micsthepick
 
@micsthepick brews a cup of mint tea for @micsthepick
 
So let's leave both running for a bit, and if Mith's doesn't explode we can put iBot in standby
 
12:49 PM
... hard to choose between those
 
There's a small chance of it exploding due to my internet, although not super likely.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How to generate or get executable sql query from EF(latest version)? by Maria Brown on stackoverflow.com
 
looks like iBot just got a little faster
 
I think that's just queueing
 
12:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How to generate or get executable sql query from EF(latest version)? by Maria Brown on stackoverflow.com
 
...whoops, raised a R/A flag there instead of a spam flag
 
but iBot game me tea first
 
unclear exactly how that should be flagged actually, it certainly had, uh, disclosure
 
Smokey just started reporting in SOCVR again. Still lagged
 
@Machavity that would be Miths instance
*Mith's
 
12:52 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 7c06a99 (iBug: Switch to broad exception for MS downtime) (running on Henders/EC2)
 
...huh?
oh
 
oh?
 
Second instance \o/
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Username similar to website in answer: Do all planets have a van Allen radiation belt? by 8743827 canada inc on astronomy.SE
 
12:53 PM
@iBug in response to this !!/reboot perhaps
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Username similar to website in answer: Do all planets have a van Allen radiation belt? by 8743827 canada inc on astronomy.SE
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Praltrix AU Australia? by kesdysaod on drupal.SE
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Praltrix AU Australia? by kesdysaod on drupal.SE
 
!!/watch \d+\W?canada\W?inc
 
@Glorfindel I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
 
12:54 PM
@thesecretmaster Thanks, I booted it up in case it will be of some help. I killed it a few weeks ago because I didn't have enough time to update python...
 
@Glorfindel I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
 
!!/watch 8743827canadainc\.ca
 
@tripleee I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
 
@tripleee I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.
 
@Henders Looks like you have MS disabled as well for now?
 
12:54 PM
that depends on MS too, to check whether you're a code admin or not
 
basically - it's checking MS for code admin privs
 
@tripleee Manually watch that and push to deploy (dangerous)?
 
@iBot k
@iBot k
 
unlikely to be immediately useful, let's just save that for tomorrow
 
@SmokeDetector one more flag here?
 
12:55 PM
^ reminder to $self
 
@tripleee my version catches both the username and the website.
 
yeah, magnificent train wreck there (-:
 
We can just push to master for now
 
@Mithrandir two
 
@tripleee right now, this room feels like Train Wreck HQ
2
 
12:55 PM
When MS's back and CI passed, we'll have it working
 
@thesecretmaster Oh, I've got no idea about that
 
[train-wreck]
 
MS is dead, that was causing problems, so for now it'd be best if you disabled MS. When Undo gets back we'll be back to normal.
 
in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, Jul 3 at 15:52, by Martin James
SO Crashed Vehicle Reviewers.
 
@micsthepick I'd add it but we seem to have cut back on our room tags
 
12:57 PM
@thesecretmaster I'm not sure how to do that
 
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
@thesecretmaster iBug/EC2
 
@Mithrandir ded
 
@Henders comment out the metasmoke stuff in the config file
 
12:58 PM
Ah
 
@Mithrandir Done
 
lovely
 
@iBug Now that we've got 2 SD instances up with MS off, want to bring iBot to standby?
 
@iBug Ah yes. We had a lively debate about who was at fault in this car crash
 
12:59 PM
@thesecretmaster done
 
Great, thanks
!!/location
* Ahem *
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Url-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: www.foodiespanda.com/rejuvalex/ by Mary Crieff on askubuntu.com
@thesecretmaster Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
1:02 PM
@iBug Thanks for jumping in and starting iBot as a stopgap
 
I killed iBot, but I don't know how to start in standby mode
 
add standby
python3 nocrash.py standby
 
 
!!/location
 
@thesecretmaster Mithrandir/Alqualondë
 
1:03 PM
How to failover without MS?
 
No idea. I'm not sure it's possible.
 
I think there's a command?
 
!!/failover won't work without MS
(Does that even exist, actually?)
 
no, it doesn't
 
There's !!/standby Mithrandir as an option
 
1:04 PM
And !!/unstandby command might be useful...
 
But there is no failover command
 
@doppelgreener but that won't enable any other ones
 
what's the point of running these instances in standby, if you need to reboot them in order to get them working?
 
idk
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected: What is it called when I got enough sleep? by Genkir Singh Siddarth on english.SE
 
1:09 PM
@micsthepick probably not useful, you need Redunda for that to work anyway I believe
(which is also down, apparently for the same reasons)
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated url at end of long post: Nutralyfe Hair ReGain - Enhance Hair Vibrancy by user400947 on meta.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Potentially bad keyword in username: How do I exchange LCD display with 7-segment LED's? ✏️ by Wing_Dinger on electronics.SE
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
1:20 PM
@Glorfindel I gave it last push
 
@Glorfindel nuked in Tavern
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Url-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +4 more: www.7supplements.org/vital-progenix/ by Fronteeia on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
1:54 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in body: woof woof woof woof woof by MarkHav on pets.SE
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@iBug Body - Contains 4 unique characters
 
I guess it's repeating woof (plus a space)
 
There were some which were 'woofwoof' because they'd badly pasted it as well
 

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