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Byte Commander

10:00 AM

I did look first though

iBug

10:14 AM

Mobile development

No need to be too curious, the content on the screen is some work on Smokey :)

tripleee

so that's basically a run of the mill Android phone with a clickety Bluetooth keyboard?

iBug

Exactly.

And typing with a physical kbd is much more comfortable than OSK, when writing answers on Stack Overflow

John Dvorak

39% battery D-:

tripleee

there are very nice external battery packs now

thesecretmaster

@iBug If you're developing on android, what're you chatting from?

iBug

10:24 AM

@thesecretmaster Just switch between Termux and Chrome.

Double-clicking the "recent" button swtiches between two recent apps.

Mithrandir

How'd you take the picture?

iBug

@Mithrandir Good question. I took out my camera (years old) for that.

The EXIF is there in the image :)

thesecretmaster

I'm on iOS, but I've got a pretty nice app which lets me ssh into my linux computer to do dev work.

iBug

@thesecretmaster This app has built-in apt and dpkg utilities and provides a variety of packages, including coreutils, binutils, Clang, Python, Git, GnuPG, OpenSSH, and even FFmpeg or MariaDB/Postgre (via community-hosted repos).

thesecretmaster

But I feel like it's gotta be slow, unless you've got a really nice phone

iBug

10:34 AM

Not quite slow, it's a OnePlus 6, beefy Snapdragon 845 with 8GB RAM.

Android runs on a (Google modified) Linux kernel so most tools are built native (ELF).

Byte Commander

the real question is, what's that plush mascot in the corner of the photo? :)

iBug

oooh, a cute bear ragdoll

Byte Commander

ideal for ~~rubber duck~~ plush bear debugging

iBug

No, you need a rubber duck.

so cute that just looks like Keto Ultra Diet detector :)

Byte Commander

hmm, it looks rather grumpy, no?

iBug

10:41 AM

That's just a bad angle the shot taken.

Filnor

11:12 AM

@ByteCommander Plush bear debugging: Release your frustration into a cute plush animal when your code isn't working?

Glorfindel

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/q/314868/295232

!!/alive

probably not ...

Filnor

Nope

Glorfindel

!!/report travel.stackexchange.com/a/121535/28333

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.buysupplementcanada.ca/derma-correct/ by Dermacorrect on meta.SE

Glorfindel

oh, it is.

SmokeDetector

11:18 AM

@Glorfindel Yup

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector what have you been drinking?

iBug

Heavily rate-limited?

tripleee

I think there's a Metasmoke problem still

Glorfindel

@tripleee yeah, could be.

Filnor

@tripleee that, Redunda and Sentinel are down too: status.sobotics.org

doppelgreener

11:19 AM

!!/report rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/130754/…

thesecretmaster

Undo has been pinged?

Federico

!!/report travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121523/…

!!/report travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121536/…

doppelgreener

!!/watch mcdodo.pk

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, mostly non-latin answer: Which days in September are best for seeing fall foliage in Charlevoix? by sudeme on travel.SE

@doppelgreener Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.

iBug

@tripleee @Undo

Federico

11:20 AM

completely ignoring reports here, but at least still scanning

iBug

@Federico No, rate-limiting is in-place.

thesecretmaster

@Undo MS server exploded. Curious if it was MariaDB or something else.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, mostly non-latin answer, blacklisted user: Applying for UK visit visit myself and my daughter. Do I need to supply duplicate supporting documents? by sudeme on travel.SE

@Federico Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.

@doppelgreener That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

tripleee

@doppelgreener please take care to escape the dot if you want to push through

iBug

@doppelgreener Shouldn't that be mcdodo\.pk?

tripleee

11:23 AM

yeah that too, though I suppose there could be cases where you really want the https:// at the start

doppelgreener

@tripleee oops, thanks

Processed Meat

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Q: Can we make the X Questions with new activity feed not load deleted spam title and body?

When loading new questions by pressing the X Questions with new activity button, spam posts are shown with title and a section of the body, even if they're already deleted as spam. This likely substantially increases their exposure if they're quickly deleted, since any users that have the quest...

doppelgreener

!!/watch npgdaily\.com

SmokeDetector

@doppelgreener That pattern looks like it's already caught by Blacklisted website in answer and Blacklisted website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

doppelgreener

rad

Byte Commander

11:34 AM

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/1070449/367990

...?

!!/alive

!!/location

(post deleted by now btw)

Shree

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/52094307/965146

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: read more www.healthsuppliment4diet.com/retrolean-forskolin/ by Onncjxn Nxj on askubuntu.com

doppelgreener

@ByteCommander there's issues

SmokeDetector

@ByteCommander plz send teh coffee

@ByteCommander teward/Solar Flare

Byte Commander

o_O

that.... took a while

doppelgreener

11:37 AM

yes

that is the issue :P

Byte Commander

I was aware that MS died, but Smokey being sluggish like a zombie now too?

iBug

Strange delay

Byte Commander

Must be like xmas for spammers today

iBug

way too long than the maximum of SE chat's rate-limiting (20 secs)

Mithrandir

Perhaps we should spin up a MS-less instance.

iBug

11:38 AM

!!/reboot

thesecretmaster

@Mithrandir AFAIK any SD instances can and do run without MS.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fe28250 (tripleee: Typo in format string --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Mithrandir

Yes, but I think that's what's causing the delays.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18920.

thesecretmaster

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

11:39 AM

@thesecretmaster Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

thesecretmaster

I think it's fixed?

Mithrandir

hum

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

doppelgreener

!!/location

thesecretmaster

... or not

Paul White

looks more like not 🙂

tripleee

11:40 AM

certainly cannot open Metasmoke's start page

thesecretmaster

Metasmoke is down, that's known. The server appears to be fully borked.

Dunno why that'd make Smokey slow though

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18919.

iBug

!!/errorlogs 50

SmokeDetector

File "/usr/lib/python3.6/ssl.py", line 814, in __init__
self.do_handshake()

File "/usr/lib/python3.6/ssl.py", line 1068, in do_handshake
self._sslobj.do_handshake()

File "/usr/lib/python3.6/ssl.py", line 689, in do_handshake
self._sslobj.do_handshake()

ConnectionResetError: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
2018-08-30 11:40:50.850775 UTC
File "/home/smokey/SmokeDetector/excepthook.py", line 54, in run_with_except_hook
run_old(*args, **kw)

File "/usr/lib/python3.6/threading.py", line 864, in run

Mithrandir

!!/report travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121538/no-spam-allowed

SmokeDetector

11:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: No spam allowed ✏️ by prfgvfdgfg09 on travel.SE

iBug

instant response???

thesecretmaster

@iBug Is it possible to run smokey MS fully disabled?

Mithrandir

@thesecretmaster yes

Byte Commander

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/1070459/367990

tripleee

it wants to report its results to MS, I think it should probably be more resilient when MS goes down (as opposed to being capable of running completely MS-less if you start it up in that mode)

iBug

11:42 AM

@thesecretmaster Leave metasmoke_host undefined in config

thesecretmaster

Do we have someone who could reconfigure their instance to do that?

Mithrandir

Yes, I can

iBug

I may fire one up now.

Glorfindel

@tripleee can't that call be made asynchronously?

Byte Commander

@tripleee or there should possibly an admin chat command like !!/metasmoke disable

iBug

11:43 AM

oh, I don't have Smokey credentials

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18894.

thesecretmaster

Mith does

Want to try moving to Miths instance?

iBug

Let's launch his for now

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@iBug teward/Solar Flare

Mithrandir

Okay... should be starting up now

SmokeDetector

11:45 AM

@iBug Mithrandir/Tauremornalómë

iBug

huh, speedy response again?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev bddc3e2 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of cybergoddess87(?:@gmail\.com)? by Makyen --autopull) (running on Mithrandir/Tauremornalómë)

iBug

!!/standby-except Mith

SmokeDetector

teward/Solar Flare is switching to standby

iBug

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

11:45 AM

Restart: API quota is 19953.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev fe28250 (tripleee: Typo in format string --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Mithrandir

@iBug !!/location doesn't require calling metasmoke

thesecretmaster

Yeah, but I think the working hypothesis is that it's super slow because it's trying to report posts to MS -- that'd make everything slow.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fe28250 (tripleee: Typo in format string --autopull) (running on Mithrandir/Tauremornalómë)

thesecretmaster

!!/alive

Mithrandir

...that's odd

iBug

11:47 AM

wait for up to 20 secs

beyond that there's something other than MS wrong.

Mithrandir

It's having trouble logging in

iBug

I have an EC2 instance and I only need credentials before I can launch it

micsthepick

@thesecretmaster ... did I miss something?

Mithrandir

!!/rev

iBug

@micsthepick hah, you missed the leading ellipses :)

Mithrandir

11:49 AM

Huh. Let me take a look at Alqualondë.

iBug

May I have the creds?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in reverted mode at rev 392262b (tripleee: Attempt to provide better diagnostics from recent crashes --autopull) (running on Mithrandir/Tauremornalómë)

Mithrandir

@iBug not my decision

micsthepick

!!/status

iBug

I can run Smokey for a prolonged period of time (guaranteed until end of June '19)

@iBug cc @tripleee

tripleee

11:51 AM

let's see about Mithrandir's ongoing efforts first

iBug

good

Glorfindel

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/q/314872/295232

bertieb

!!/report superuser.com/a/1353743/461558

thesecretmaster

Do we have any other runners around?

Doesn't Henders have an instance?

Mithrandir

Trying in reverted mode

!!/rev

iBug

11:54 AM

@thesecretmaster You have no way to activate that one :(

Mithrandir

...uh. one minute

thesecretmaster

@iBug Could ping @Henders, they're here.

iBot

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 342c247 (iBug: should be debug output, not info) (running on iBug/EC2)

iBug

While Mith's working, I've launched my own "placeholder"

Mithrandir

Wat. that's very odd, it'd not prompting for username and password in the terminal anymore

iBug

11:56 AM

Hope it can find out spam posts for the time being.

thesecretmaster

@Mithrandir Prolly got the stupid captcha thing

bertieb

Does Smokey process !!/reports made while offline?

iBot

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in reverted mode at rev f22c15b (tripleee: Merge pull request #2390 from superplane39/patch-6) (running on iBug/EC2)

iBug

(can I recall my words...?)

Mithrandir

> [14:55:48] Configuration loaded from "config"
[14:55:48] metasmoke host not found. Set it as metasmoke_host in the config file. See https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke.
[14:55:48] No metasmoke key found, which is okay if both are running on the same host
[14:55:48] No metasmoke websocket host found, which is okay if you're anti-websocket
[14:55:51] No ChatExchange username provided. Set it in config or provide it via environment variable

iBot

11:57 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in reverted mode at rev f22c15b (tripleee: Merge pull request #2390 from superplane39/patch-6) (running on iBug/EC2)

iBug

quick patch coming

iBot

Restart: API quota is 19999.

bertieb

Are we good to continue reporting in the meantime?

Or hold off for now?

iBug

This one should be working, standby it when the real Smokey has gone back