/o\

@MadScientist looks like Postgres has what you're describing

I'm sure it costs an arm and a leg space-wise but

Alternatively we could get a real search engine rolling...

Anyone good with JS closures? I'm getting confused

namely Lucene

@Henders Go ahead

@Henders you're getting confused because no one seems to be good with JS closures?

@quartata If I have an anonymous closure like: (function(){blah})(); I can declare variables in it and set them from within like global variables. If I make the closure have a name like myClosure = (function(){ blah })(); then I have to set the variables like myClosure.myVariable = 1234 is that right?

not unless that function returns something

closures are very simple

all you're doing is making a function and then calling it

if you return an object from that function, then you can access those attributes from outside the closure

but anything else that was inside the closure isn't available to you

but that object's "methods" (I use the term loosely because JS doesn't really have them in the class-based sense) can access them, because it was defined in the same scope as them and so it keeps them around

(function() { let x = 2; console.log(x); })(); console.log(x); is a good demonstration

yeah

but then also if you do something like this:

var f = (function() { let x = 2; return function() { console.log(x); } })(); f(); console.log(x);

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sorry for the braces hell

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

but the function that was made inside the closure has access to x as you can see

@ArtOfCode hey this is pretty good

@SmokeDetector K

Hmmm

@quartata looks cool

I don't know how much regex Solr has

but I know it can do it

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If I return a function and a variable from my closure. Then I run the function, that function is not run in the same context is it?

fp- by CalvT븃

@Henders what do you mean by returning a function and a variable from the closure?

JS doesn't have multiple returns without additional data structures

Yeah, sorry, I mean like: return { myVar: myVar, myFunc: function(){ //do something; }}

yes, calling that function would be like you had invoked it inside the closure

that's what my example above illustrates

Ah yeah, I see that now...

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Anything from channels yet?

Kinda looking forward to it :p

@SmokeDetector K

@Magisch the channels here are pretty boring

Okay, thanks @quartata, @ArtOfCode! I've worked it out now. Basically, I was returning the function which changed a value in the closure. The variable I was returning was a snapshot in time of the variable in the closure instead of getting it from that closure every time. It meant that after I had run the function to change the value, I was still just looking at the value originally returned instead of getting it from the closure again.

!!/watch thehtmlcoder\.com

@Magisch why are you looking forward to it with your tongue out? Your tongue might catch a cold

@WELZ Added thehtmlcoder\.com to watchlist

@Henders what was in the variable?

@WELZ I thought I've seen this site before

must have been something that was pass-by-value

@M.A.R. yes twice before

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@quartata if you use Postgres, the fulltext search is pretty decent. The major disadvantage of this kind of index is that you can only search from the beginning of a word. Arbitrary regexp are not possible.

we don't use postgres unfortunately

Weren't channels supposed to start a half hour ago? :/

@ArtOfCode Go time on Teams!

I got the link, but it 404s. Probably attached to your account.

Soooo Art and Undo set it up and then the rest of us get in?

aye, attached to me

Drop the 'and Undo' out of that and you're right

waiting for a confirmation email

@Undo ha, imagine there be a power outage and Art would come 6 hours later

The horror

The suspense would kill half of Charcoal

Charcoal is a pretty interesting example how hierachies create themselves even if you try to resist them

@Magisch I'm above Undo in this hierarchy

Just being a little modest

@Magisch Not much of one... and we never really tried to resist

well maybe a decent hierarchy

when are you going to let me in the suspense is killing me even now

we have like 6 ranks now

If you see a closed door three meters away from you, will you open it?

of course I would what do I look like an idiot

no closed doors allowed

@M.A.R. I touch the doorknob. Is it hot?

you touch the Doorknob?

@quartata An integer. So when I used my function to update that integer, the returned value obviously didn't change because it's just an integer. The solution is to return another function which goes into the closure and gets the integer.

@Henders that would do it

>.>

Whoever responded to the form first, congratulations you're now a test subject

pretty sure it was me

Let's see if I can break things

No it was nobody

literally

tsk

was definitely not me

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs it was Nobody

yeah I'm gonna see if I can add gmail as a domain... this'll be fun

Noobody

@quartata Thanks! I was thinking about the closure wrong because it returns an object of things in my case. :)

ArtOfExperimentation

APPARENTLY THAT WORKS

well I've got a bug report or three to make already

Bahahaha

what

I want credit on the security page

...

hey @Undo... still have access to your icloud.com address?

@ArtOfCode ummm which one?

one attached to Smokey's account

@Undo you bark when MS breaks?

yeah probably

@ArtOfCode Nobody has an iCloud address if you need that

I have a gmail address too, though

@Undo If I throw that into the system, wanna send me the verification link to click when it comes through?

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs your dancing sucks

@ArtOfCode sure

it does xD

so does my attempt to italicize my words

on its way

856 unread emails. Wow.

ohhh THIS is where all the AWS notifications I've been missing are

@Undo Sounds like SD needs to go thru your inbox

@Undo Any... spam? ducks

@Undo pfft

I offered to do a screen recording of setting up the team for UX people to look at... suddenly feeling like I should add some dryly amused commentary and comedy music

@Henders about two hundred things from Amazon, that might count

@Undo I am Amazon's favorite customer.... Have two credit cards thru them

And they get used quite often

This should totally not be possible

what?

Still alive: travel.stackexchange.com/a/110914/28333 thanks

I verified gmail.com and icloud.com, IOW completely defeated domain-email based auth

@Glorfindel gonna abstain from that because self-promotion and recent events

@ArtOfCode eh, just give us our access! :P

@ArtOfCode Maybe it's okay, though - you did it as an owner, so you're breaking in to... your own channel

@Glorfindel K

Can't we just log in with smartcards?

Yup, but that might mean anyone with an email on the domain can join

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs smartcards are of the devil

I used them in the military. Pretty secure

and break all the time, at least here

well, we have "virtual smartcards" which I guess are some chip inside our laptops.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You can already, just touch your card to the screen now :)

so congrats to the top three people on that form responses list you're all test subjects

am I one of them? o.O

@Henders why isn't it working? :p

@NobodyNada @Catija @DavidPostill stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal

boooo

@ArtOfCode might as well claim Hotmail and Yahoo while you're slurping up domains

others of you with a gmail or icloud address may also be able to get in

@Andy +1

@ArtOfCode WHOOO!!!

are domains exclusive?

Like, can no one else register @gmail.com now?

@Undo shrug... shall we find out by claiming all the popular ones

@ArtOfCode you should probably turn off the gmail one

I'm in!

0 questions... Hmmm.

Might be a good question to ask. A company our size might have a bunch of teams under one domain

@WELZ probably should wait for charcoal-se email

I'm user 3

(also Art did specify only those three people :P)\

what's my charcoal-se.org address @ArtOfCode?

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Keep trying, sometimes it takes a few attempts :)

@Undo pretty sure it's undo@

huh

heh. The confirmation email ended up in zoho's spam folder

Team Guides?

@Andy yeah, likewise

okay, hotmail and yahoo addresses...

well hopefully having to change the email won't be a pain

It doesn't want to show up in my gmail

Let me be the first to post spam on Charcoal Team!

(see if smokey catches it)

@Undo it got to mine

@Undo it takes a minute or 2

it's a little slow

@Andy it is related to spam

should I start filling things in or?

@Undo Or zoho stopped it because it's spam

~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ ~o~ stop taking so long ArcOfTode

oh

@Christopher @M.A.R. @K.Dᴀᴠɪs @Tinkeringbell who's around?

here

I'm already in.

|o

@ArtOfCode \o/

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs gonna ping you an email that'll have a confirmation link in it, don't click the link, just send it to me so I can click it

[control-freak]

@Undo wanna get @K.Dᴀᴠɪs into the room?

:P

@ArtOfCode That sounds like an excellent phishing scheme

@ArtOfCode the practical approach to csrf

Charcoal Community Elections 2018!

@ArtOfCode you should be an owner

@ArtOfCode I am almost a sphere

Im usr nmber threa, so that maks me kwalified for mod toolz

Eeek, I have only 1 repz!

@Mithrandir 101

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/74204

:( No association bonus in teams, apparently.

@M.A.R. likewise

Hey @Undo @ArtOfCode so we noticed that you've added gmail.com and icloud.com as allowable emails in the team that means pretty much anyone with those could join your team.

Hehe, someone is watching then :)

@ArtOfCode Done :)

Yup, just trying to see how much we can break things

@ArtOfCode just checking

@Taryn We're a bunch of chaos monkeys intent on utterly wreaking havoc

@Henders sounds fun

@Mithrandir I'm just gonna ignore that right now

:P

@Mithrandir I'm a chimp and smarter than you

The page layout seems a bit wonky.

@Taryn More seriously, if you don't want us to do something, let us know.

climbs a ladder to get bananas

@Taryn If we de-authorize it after people are in, will those people get kicked out?

New metasmoke user 'Kendra' created

@Taryn - I was going to say hi earlier but you left about 30ms after joining! :P

@Andy it's fine for now, just making you aware that it makes it pretty open, unlike if you had all charcoal emails

@M.A.R. email in your inbox, drop link in here

@Catija :shrug:

@Taryn Understand, thanks

@Catija seems like a good opportunity to test

@ArtOfCode I am now, on mobile

um

> at least one tag such as (corn-for-horse)

it's pulling tags from here

well this is an excellent way of not having to play silly buggers with email address allocations

emergency alert

@Taryn I think the concern we were having was that we don't have enough emails to go around, so Art would have to do some... weird stuff.. to get people in.

@quartata no, I asked a sample question

@Undo oh

false alarm in that case

Great, how am I supposed to post the link in mobile?

@ArtOfCode Apart for those of us with personal domains :P blushes

@Henders yep, I'll get to you guys. We'll have plenty addresses to go round just those people :)

woo! personal domains

Sooo on mobile clicking the big "Stack Overflow" link goes back to public q&a

@Catija no worries, just figured I'd drop in and mention it.

@Mithrandir as on desktop

"what's your on-topic question" HAHAHA

@Mithrandir yeh, it's a bit annoying that it's still pretty connected with main so