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6:00 AM

@ArtOfCode An additional confirmation prompt in FIRE when the post is eligible for autoflagging

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speaking for myself, the handful of wrong spam flags I've had so far in the last half year or so were because FIRE is a one-click system, and the buttons are perilously close to each other :p

@ArtOfCode a) audits? B) Have people review where they have provided feedback one way but were then switched? Identify those cases for people & let/have them go through them?

@Magisch so... if the post is over 300 weight, remind the user that they need to be 110% sure?

@ArtOfCode yes

Might start to get old but when we're dealing with instanuking a post an additional check prompt shouldn't be too much to ask

6:02 AM

People will start clicking through that, but it's a good base... are there ways we can make that prompt more intelligent so that people don't click through?

My problem with FIRE is that even if you misclick once (like, oops I wanted to click NAA) it flags

right now that's not a problem much, I can go retract that

a prompt would allow me to "oh no I didn't want to do that" and click cancel

I would rather not do audits, but they would work.

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tpu- by Jarko Dubbeldam

Email in your inbox. No audits.

@ArtOfCode We could also be more stringent about invalid feedback

6:04 AM

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

So... The right way to solve that problem is to delay two flags until feedback from a known trusted user.

An extra confirm is easy to do. I've already put one such in place for confirming that someone wants to change their feedback. It'd be easy to key another one off of weight, or # autoflags & only require it when the post isn't closed yet.

Sockpuppetry concerns ignored, it'd work.

@Undo What is known trusted user for you?

I thought that was our threshold for handing out review privileges

Then you need to define "trusted"

6:06 AM

@Magisch Someone I trust. Metric TBD.

@Makyen A thought... If FIRE checked how many flags are already cast before it sent a flag, and prompted for confirmation if your flag would be the last one... would that work?

i.e. if there are 5 flags on the post already, auto or manual, and you're about to cast the last one, FIRE tells you to double check yourself.

Yeah. I was about to write exactly that. There would be race conditions... but it'd be an improvement.

can you see howmany flags there are though?

@Magisch I don't think a routine "are you sure" is going to stop anyone who has made up their mind already, it becomes a function of muscle memory very quickly if you flag more than occasionally

Or only see howmany were cast from MS?

6:07 AM

How about a fire config setting where it just prompts in general

@JAD Sort of. We know how many flags have been cast through Charcoal systems, which includes flags from FIRE (since they go through the MS API).

@tripleee It helps people with poor finger coordination like me though

@JAD We're talking 5-flag posts. If it's not deleted, you're the last flag.

But. This is not a problem that needs to be solved. We're trying to not make something bad happen when lightning strikes the same place twice in rapid succession. It's an honorable thing, but you've got to keep it in perspective.

or worst case disable FIRE from flagging if it is a deciding vote.. User needs to vote manually

6:08 AM

reminds me of the "OK" box which moves away when you approach it with the mouse pointer

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@Undo Not sure I follow

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tpu- by tripleee

@SurajRao I like this, and also Yvette's proposal to add a comment to posts to increase visibility

@ArtOfCode We've been doing this for two years and lightning has never struck twice on the same post.

6:10 AM

@Undo define lightning?

* flag manually not vote to be clear.. wrong word

but the piling-on effect is real

Best to keep perspective here, we're talking about 0,25% of autoflagged posts where that mistake is even possible

@ArtOfCode 300 weight + fp + bad feedback

"oh this already got 5 flags so it must be spam, right?"

6:12 AM

Part of the problem is that there is informal competition between people in here to see who can flag/give feedback fastest. If we can reduce that, it would help.

@tripleee Real, yes, but we're talking about an insane edge case. I've caused far more damage in one mouse click on SO than this could in an unlucky year.

... and no one died over that.

realistically even if we get to this insane edge case (1/30k for someone to even get to make that mistake) and the mistake happens, then it's not unfixable

I'm just saying we're overreacting to the slim possibility that this ever happens. No need to complex-ify systems for that one thing.

@Makyen I think it's also conditioned by the posts being deleted so quickly -- even if there is no direct human competition the psychological mechanism to hurry to check before it's gone is going to be a driver for quick clicks

@Undo The general issue of people overzealous with flagging to the point where bhargav would flag ban them if possible is a concern though

6:14 AM

@Magisch This. I think less than 1/30k in reality; that fp was a long time ago.

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Having people like that in our project gives us a bad name among mods

tpu- by tripleee

@Magisch He should do it. Handle it like any other moderation issue.

@Undo iirc you can't flag ban manually

6:15 AM

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Charcoal doesn't absolve you of your responsibility to use your head. It's not a shield, and can't be used as one.

@tripleee I agree. That is one of the things that contributes to the "pressure" to act fast.

@AndrasDeak Well certain moderators on smaller sites do send a mod message to users who wrongly flag. But I think we shouldn't be going to that level. Charcoal must ensure that it doesn't go to such an extreme level. And no, mods can't add flag bans. If that was the case, I would have done that. — Bhargav Rao 6 hours ago

the discussion here should be "how do we police ourselves and especially the users who are perhaps too enthusiastic" regardless of the 5-flag proposal

@Undo Yes, but as members of charcoal we have higher expectations from mods not to misuse our flagging hard

6:16 AM

Anyway, gotta go to bed. Evening.

If a random user is very trigger happy with flags then that's their problem and their flag accept rate down the toilet, if a charcoal member does it it reflects badly on all of us

more than that; the nature of our project is attracting them to us so we can't just shrug and pretend it's somebody else's problem

@tripleee exactly

@tripleee Very true.

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tpu- by tripleee

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

6:21 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

(Just testing it out. It was already delete when I did that.)

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6:41 AM

New metasmoke user 'Martin Schröder' created

good to know we can deal with HTML entities totally fine

Depends on what you mean by 'totally fine'. But metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/users?page=8 looks good :)

@ArtOfCode That post wasn't about me was it? I've retracted a flag before :/

... but I don't think I marked it naa immediately afterwards

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs we're not allowed to disclose who it was. To ease your mind (or not), you could check your flagging history and see if you did this multiple times.

I would think you would be able to disclose if I am okay with it. I know you can't give out another name, however.

6:54 AM

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

His recommendation was stop/scold/educate the user, which would require disclosure

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Mods can privately message users, if need be

@SmokeDetector !!/test Phytolast

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on http://getbetterskincare.com/cognivex/ [MS]

7:03 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Stop/scold/educate would require disclosure privately to the user, not publicly. Disclosure publicly that you're not the user gives people additional information to others about who the user might be (e.g. then the next person asks, etc. By the process of elimination you know who it was). Thus, they can't disclose publicly that you are, because then a refusal to disclose is disclosing that you're not.

tpu- by suraj on Business Workflow Process Management [MS]

@Makyen Makes sense

@Glorfindel I hope it's not me. On SO I have only 2 retracted spam flags, one from 2016 and one from mid 2017

@SmokeDetector cant print certain unicode chars..

Also, retracting flags/changing feedback after seeing another user's response to the post, especially in your first phases of Charcoal, is to be expected. I haven't checked but I'm quite sure it happened to me as well in the past. If you don't make mistakes, you can't learn from them. We just need to make sure that this education process doesn't interfere with accidentally nuking a post (though I expect BR's example to have happened on a non-autoflagged post).

It's one of the reason for this feature request to increase the # of reviews needed.

7:12 AM

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naa- by Glorfindel

fp by A J on Alibaba Cloud Container Service to Deploy Multiple PHP Projects? [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Why do Internet forums tend to prohibit responding to inactive threads? by chin hooo on communitybuilding.SE

tpu- by A J

@SmokeDetector what the heck is it?

@AJ you don't want to know

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tpu- by suraj

New metasmoke user 'DIF' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Why do Internet forums tend to prohibit responding to inactive threads? by chin hooo on communitybuilding.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@Glorfindel I agree. I expect that it's even more common when the user doesn't have much experience flagging.

!!/watch obatvimaxjakarta\.com

7:19 AM

@AJ 'obat' is Indonesian for 'medicine'/'drug'.

@AJ You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1682 for you.

Merged SmokeDetector #1682.

@Glorfindel Oh. I translated the post. And since it had the p word and a phone number, it was obvious.

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@undo Perhaps we should add an additional role, or at least use "core". Unless the user has the role, that is in addition to "reviewer", then spam-flag MS API action taken on 5-flag posts doesn't actually result in a flag being cast. There's nothing that can be done about the user actually going to the post and manually casting a flag, but we could not facilitate that through the tools (e.g. FIRE, review, i.e. the MS API).

@SmokeDetector great you gave us a link to watch. :P

7:20 AM

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The first post didn't have a link though

but now we can watch

!!/watch (?:1\W*)?0813\W*9051\W*4444

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@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1683 for you.

tpu- by A J

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Had a phone number

7:26 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body: Built In Remedies In Support Of Dry While Flaky Skin by marinrisp on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Watch a phone number?

Sounds weird

They change less often then an email

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@SmokeDetector K

New metasmoke user 'Kyle Trauberman' created

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

New metasmoke user 'Meteor' created

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Merged SmokeDetector #1683.

7:42 AM

@SmokeDetector This is still live

@Makyen not anymore

Good.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: getbetterskincare.com/cognivex/ by nehas jahrell on astronomy.SE

@Makyen someone murdered it

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

7:43 AM

@SmokeDetector k

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector k

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector K

-1

Q: While opening a soda bottle the dissolved co2 comes out then what would be the phone of the solution

I just want my ans pizza be fast I am getting irritated

Troll?

yes

7:52 AM

LOL, hold on

nah. Legit question

xD

It might be autocorrect

LMAO

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector K

@M.A.R. flagged as VLQ but not really spam

7:55 AM

@tripleee yeah I didn't get it at first

The "pls" changing to "pizza" and "phase" to "phone"

It's just one of those urgant homewerkz

8:06 AM

Merged SmokeDetector #1680.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in title: evaherbalist.com/fucoxanthin-south-africa/ by nopeuzjoer on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword fucoxanthin

@tripleee Blacklisted fucoxanthin

@tripleee that sounds like a term that could appear in legitimate posts e.g. on Biology SE

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Any admin on board?

8:19 AM

tripleee seems to be

The GH Pages page about autoflagging contains this expression which I think is wrong

> a policy that is at least 99.75% accurate over a sample of 1000 posts.

@MadScientist It hasn't yet: biology.stackexchange.com/search?q=fucoxanthin

(of course that's no guarantee)

what is that? Isn't MS simply fetching ALL posts and count them?

do you vary blacklists by site? E.g. blacklisting Viagra everywhere except Health or other sites where it could appear legitimately?

Also, I don't think you can get as precise as 0.05% from only 1000 posts.

@MadScientist That's be applied manually

@MadScientist We do have a special list excluding health-related sites already.

8:22 AM

does the autoflagging work for users with more than 1 rep?

@MadScientist For a limited number of things, yeah

@MadScientist We have exclusive blacklisting

@MadScientist sometimes

@MadScientist yes, if people choose to have that

@MadScientist Depends on the conditions. In theory, yes. In practice, to save your conditions, they still need to be 99,75% accurate

8:22 AM

Flagging conditions are set around three values: minimum cumulative weight, minimum reason count, and maximum author reputation

The combination of these have to have at least 99,75% historical accuracy to be valid

and that 99.75% has to be over a sample of at least 1000 posts

You can save any settings, be it valid or not. But you can only enable those with over 99.75%

In practice, most people (I assume) have their settings set to max user rep of 1

@ArtOfCode Can we change that percentage to flooring? i.e. Don't display 99.746% as 99.75% for me

8:25 AM

@Magisch most people on the list at the moment used OCS, which sets you up to 280/1/1

That's an insconsistent rounding setting in MS.

@iBug Huh?

@ArtOfCode I have 185/1/1

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by Glorfindel

New metasmoke user 'codingbadger' created

@ArtOfCode Sometimes when the webpage shows 99.75% but I can't save it. It's because the exact value is between 99.745000 and 99.749999

8:26 AM

@iBug 185/1/1 works

@SmokeDetector why no link to the user?

@Glorfindel That's not a report.

@iBug I mean... yeah, that's technically a bug, but... just bump your minimum weight up a couple points :P

due to the way rounding is done, it shows up as 99.75 but fails the check p > 99.75

@ArtOfCode That's not hard to fix, huh?

@Glorfindel not signed up with SE auth

8:27 AM

New metasmoke user 'Doktor OSwaldo' created

Like p = math.floor(p*100.0)/100.0

@ArtOfCode Well, the /users/ page includes a link to their SE profile.

@iBug probably not, but I'm gonna leave it unless I'm doing stuff round that anyway. A couple extra points on min weight isn't a bad thing to be encouraging.

@ArtOfCode I've been mulling over Bhargav's comment with the "trigger happy" user on our meta post

but then why do we use flooring on reason weights?

8:29 AM

@Glorfindel yup, signed up with email and immediately got redirected to auth, so they must've authed then

Maybe we need a process for site moderators to talk to the users / us about that

@iBug makes reasons seem worse than they are rather than better

@Magisch there is one, it's called a mod message

and if it gets to that then we have issues

@ArtOfCode It already got past that. Bhargav said if mods could flag ban people by hand, he would have

@ArtOfCode It's called a mocked message :P

Remember that autoflagging aims for no false positives, not necessarily as many posts as we can get.

8:30 AM

@ArtOfCode so, how does that work if a post is eligible for spam flags with lower settings, but not higher ones. Are all users that have higher settings filtered out and the flaggers chosen from the remainder?

In other words, it's gotten to the point where a moderator would have flag banned one of our members if it was possible

@MadScientist yes.

That reads like an indictment of our process

@MadScientist yeah, effectively

So in practice, if you're on the lower end of the settings, you could have an autoflag accuracy of less than 99.75%.

8:31 AM

so, in reality the effective setting is the lowest one chosen by any three users now?

@MadScientist At least 99,75% yeah

@ArtOfCode What does this mean?

@MadScientist that is the point at which we would cast 3 flags on a post, yes

Thats why we impose the "minimum" floor of 99,75% accuracy. But indivduals can decide they only want to be involved in more "sure" things

> a policy that is at least 99.75% accurate over a sample of 1000 posts.

8:32 AM

@iBug if your condition doesn't match at least 1000 posts historically it won't be let through

charcoal-se.org/flagging#any-good

@iBug e.g. you can't specify a condition for a small site only, the sample size is just too low.

Understood

@ArtOfCode If I read your comment and bhargav's comment right, then this is something we need to address in the long run.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to disable and remove Wifi Sense? (Sending your Wifi passwords to Microsoft) by tomjs on superuser.com

tpu- by Magisch

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on http://healthflyup.com/vedda-blood-sugar/ [MS]

8:34 AM

github.com/Charcoal-SE/charcoal-se.github.io/pull/34

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tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

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@Magisch Undo is right to an extent that it's not a massive problem for 5 flags, because it's unheard of to get 300+ weight and an FP and someone flags wrongly.

@ArtOfCode Not because of the 5 flag thing

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But if I read this right one of our members is pissing off the SO mods enough that they'd ban him if the system would let them

8:35 AM

But yes, I'd be happier if we did something about consistent false flags. Suspect a bunch of meta would be too.

That is not what we want to be known as, no?

@Magisch I suspect there's some interpretation differences here. Lemme talk to Bhargav.

@MadScientist many pharma terms have this property but if there is no evidence to suggest that, blacklisting still makes sense

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: How to Use -confirm in PowerShell by media player on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

!!/watch 500px\.com

8:36 AM

@Glorfindel Added 500px\.com to watchlist

What volume of 300-weight posts do we actually expect?

@SmokeDetector That's not my fault.

!!/blame

@Glorfindel It's Magisch's fault.

2

@JohnDvorak Quite a lot daily.

8:37 AM

hey D:

the SO election may be my fault, but you can't pin all of this on me

@JohnDvorak Most of the whatever enhancement and whatever care spams are over 300

oh, nice

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!!/blame

@AJ It's Rob's fault.

8:39 AM

!!/blame

@iBug It's Nick Gammon's fault.

@iBug not sure what's up with that, let me try pushing it again maybe?

Looks like Jekyll is not configured correctly

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which word do you use when letter(s) from a word gets skipped?

8:46 AM

@AJ contraction? "Don't" is a contraction

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New metasmoke user 'Vaibhav Vishal' created

@ArtOfCode No. Like the letter in this word "mistak" I skipped.

@AJ that is indeed called a mistak

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sounds like you want typo

8:49 AM

fp- by Bugs

well there are typos because people don't know the correct spelling and typos because people type too fast

@tripleee And typos because engrained language conventions have moved into muscle memory despite them being wrong

mistype sounds like typing the wrong key rather than eliding one

took me almost a year to stop instinctively writing being with 2 e

"span" is very hard to type correctly because my ring finger knows after "s-p-a-" the next one is "m"

8:51 AM

@Magisch "then" ;)

@tripleee lol

@ArtOfCode I know a guy who always use "then" even when he has to use "than".

@ArtOfCode yes

@tripleee become a web developer, then you have to type both of them frequently so neither is an issue

too late, fortunately (-:

@ArtOfCode You gonna run in the SO election, btw?

8:53 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: klereumcol.com/tryvix-es/ by hightbosa on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Just use divs for everything

@Magisch shrug

@JohnDvorak but then you have to add styles to de-block-level them when you want an inline-level element

Everything is just a division of the content after all

@ArtOfCode sure, why not?

because there's an element built so you don't have to do that :P

@SmokeDetector why

8:54 AM

@AJ Blacklisted user - blacklisted for //stackoverflow.com/a/49125069 (m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//stackoverflow.com/a/…) by the metasmoke API

possible spam?

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/1012327/756666

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: What is the Difference Between Content Management system and Document Management System? by Sophia Emily on askubuntu.com

Block-level or inline is a presentation topic = domain of CSS :P

@SmokeDetector f

tpu- by tripleee

Conflicting feedback on What is the Difference Between Content Management system and Document Management System?.

Conflicting feedback on What is the Difference Between Content Management system and Document Management System?.

8:58 AM

@Mithrandir wanna change feedback before I invalidate it? :P

Conflicting feedback on What is the Difference Between Content Management system and Document Management System?.

same user has spammed SO today

ah, didn't have that context

spam-flagged

@SmokeDetector k

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