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6:00 AM

@micsthepick okay. I'm sorry, but based on this you've only submitted 10 entries, of which 4 were closed - not exactly a convincing record. I know that most of those were closed by yourself - but when you're a code admin all of your blacklists go through immediately, and require someone with GH push access to revert, so it's important that you're accurate.

Which is why I would be much more conservative

So I'm going to have to decline your request for now, sorry. Do ask again when you've done a few more :)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: If a person is still hesitant about by rshaw nally on workplace.SE

@JAD way to put my puzzle down the [hsti]{4}ter

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

6:02 AM

!!/rmblu stackoverflow.com/users/7519544/akhil-varma

@micsthepick User is not blacklisted.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs ?

@SmokeDetector because of the changed feedback and the fact that there is only one hit against that post I assume.

@JAD Hmm if you played more RegEx Puzzles you would have been able to decipher it. :)

oh hmmm that way around. Sorry, I only half read the discussion

might be a better fit on puzzling tbh

6:05 AM

@JAD yeah... where there are zero programmers

PPCG is pretty strict on its winning criterion: least amount of bytes, leas amount of runtime, etc

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs this is stachexchange, there are programmers everywhere

and you don't have to be a programmer to understand regex, the really involved stuff tends to appeal more to mathematicians

!!/isblu scifi.stackexchange.com/users/97724/sassy-teenager

@NogShine User is blacklisted (97724 on scifi.stackexchange.com).

you just have to use Greek letters to explain the puzzle

6:09 AM

!!/watch ajk\Wtorus

@micsthepick You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1706 for you.

instead of "foo? and fo?o match the same strings" you say "the intersection of α and β is identical to both sets"

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs hey, I program and I have the majority of my rep on Puzzling

Merged SmokeDetector #1706.

@SmokeDetector @trip you want to clean this up? hotels\W(booking\W)?(\w\W?){0,10}neelam\Wvalley

6:13 AM

@SmokeDetector ooh, that's one more entry

@micsthepick with some hesitation TBH

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@K.Dᴀᴠɪs looks like maybe it should be merged with the <service> in <place in India> regex in findspam.py

> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-10: Zilotrope
Body - Position 1-10: Zilotrope
Username - Position 1-10: Zilotrope

!!/test Zilotrope

!!/test chinasunlead.net

6:15 AM

> Url in title, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
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Title - Position 12-28: chinasunlead.net
Title - Position 1-28: http://www.chinasunlead.net
Body - Position 12-28: chinasunlead.net
Username - Position 12-28: chinasunlead.net

maybe use test-q or test-a to just get a reasonably compact yes/no answer

-

oh

pretend I did not ask

Merged SmokeDetector #1675.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer: Remove 'Switch to plain text editor' in CKEdtior by rosebk on drupal.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected: Fuck arqade. Why do I get banned? by Thatguy27 on gaming.SE

CI on 2c85907 succeeded.

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on Remove 'Switch to plain text editor' in CKEdtior [MS]

CI on c06e120 failed.

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector that seems like a bit dangerous of a regex

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6:18 AM

you could have a bunch of numbers in a post and catch it by chance

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actually no

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@micsthepick huh? we routinely blacklist phone numbers, I don't think I've seen an FP

Merged SmokeDetector #1673.

6:20 AM

for some reason I thought that \W matched more than it should for a second

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Restart: API quota is 19513.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer: How treat when there's no data in Neural Network training? by Mary Ranganathan on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: It keeps your preference in best inspire and by a similar token gives you by Shartair19 Virk on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on How treat when there's no data in Neural Network training? [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: MORE INFO @>> www.muscle4supplement.com/test-troxin-ca/ by yabkpluplu on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test besanttechnologies.com

> Url in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title
----------
Title - Position 13-35: besanttechnologies.com
Title - Position 1-35: https://www.besanttechnologies.com
Body - Position 13-35: besanttechnologies.com

@micsthepick so, repeat, if you just want to test if a URL is blacklisted, !!/test-a does that more succinctly

@SmokeDetector del duh

!!/test-a besanttechnologies.com/meh

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected, blacklisted user: Fuck arqade. Why do I get banned? by Thatguy27 on gaming.SE

> Blacklisted website in answer
----------
Body - Position 8-30: besanttechnologies.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, offensive answer detected, blacklisted user: Fuck arqade. Why do I get banned? by Thatguy27 on gaming.SE

tpu- by tripleee on Fuck arqade. Why do I get banned? [MS]

tpu- by tripleee

6:27 AM

the post got reported already earlier but is still up, and was reported again because it now also has a rude answer. But it's gone now

not the question

nvm just deleted

It's sad when someone goes into that much effort of making a slander dictionary.

Opinions? literature.stackexchange.com/questions/4153/…

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, +1 more: healthsupplementsreviews info/vidhigra/ by marieylor on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test-a roadkill-pasta

6:32 AM

> Would not be caught as an answer.

!!/watch vidhigra

@tripleee Added vidhigra to watchlist

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!!/test-u W!ngd1ngs

@Mithrandir given that the URL is relevant I'd say leave it for the mods to decide. It's too borderline for us to make an outright decision

that isn't a command?

6:36 AM

!!/ not !!\

> Blacklisted username
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Username - Position 1-10: W!ngd1ngs

!!/test-u W*ngd1ngs

> Blacklisted username
----------
Username - Position 1-10: W*ngd1ngs

@Mithrandir Should be spam. Look at the profile.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: What is SEO and its benefits? by user384655 on meta.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

6:43 AM

!!/test-a theitsol.com

> Would not be caught as an answer.

!!/watch theitsol\.com

@tripleee Added theitsol\.com to watchlist

hey, that was mine :P

Not anymore

6:44 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: How Which Can Increase Boy Libido Naturally by Elainicks on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

not having to approve a PR separately is a concern, it's a detour towards the end goal

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@tripleee you may want to reword that?

@micsthepick maybe you want to review the Halflife transcript for recent blacklist candidates ... I should post about that in Teams too maybe

@micsthepick huh?

!!/blacklist-keyword seo\W*services

@tripleee Blacklisted seo\W*services

6:47 AM

did you mean "having to approve a PR is a detour", or something else?

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Invalid input type given for an argument

!!/approve github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1673

!!/commands

@micsthepick I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

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actually, that command is not documented

6:48 AM

@micsthepick yes, that

so get rid of "not" then?

or replace concern with easier

^

regardless, I need to stockpile on accepted PR's

@angussidney this mod is trying to decide ;)

lol

6:54 AM

I've opted for just deletion with a helpful spam flag, so that it'll hide it but not block them or anything.

so what is the Halflife transcript?

I couldn't find any rooms when I looked for that keyword

in Charcoal Test, 10 mins ago, by PulseMonitor

halflife:2018-03-12 06:44:53,208:109755: URL tail nitridex is blacklisted

is there a search by post-url in MS?

Like charcoal-se.org/ms-urls?

!!/test-a seo-services

6:59 AM

> Bad keyword in answer
----------
Body - Position 1-13: seo-services

@Mithrandir that's what I am looking for

@Mithrandir lol, completely forgot which site you were mod on :)

Heh

!!/test-a musclebuildingbuy.com

> Blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer
----------
Body - Position 1-22: musclebuildingbuy.com
Body - Position 6-21: ebuildingbuy.co
Body - Position 1-22: musclebuildingbuy.com

7:03 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs that command has always been broken, that's why it's not documented cc @micsthepick

!!/blame

@micsthepick It's tripleee's fault.

@SmokeDetector I beg your pardon

!!/blame

@AJ It's JAD's fault.

7:06 AM

@JAD ^^

@angussidney that one pipe that is not bold is bugging me

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: top10sideeffects.com/nitridex/ by Clace1937 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/blame

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's K.Dᴀᴠɪs's fault.

Yup

7:10 AM

@micsthepick totally not mod abused-fixed

!!/blame

@micsthepick It's A J's fault.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's A J's fault.

!!/blame᠎ ⁣‍‍

@SmokeDetector AJ is not a mod

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: supplementsbucket.com by jamiiphaii on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

7:12 AM

!!/blame᠎ ᠎‌‍⁠‍

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's SmokeDetector's fault.

!!/watch supplementsbucket

@micsthepick You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1707 for you.

@SmokeDetector this time you are on the money

@micsthepick I think it's actually your fault

!!/blame᠎ ‌‌᠎⁣᠎‌

7:13 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's micsthepick's fault.

definitely

!!/blame

@NogShine It's Wrzlprmft's fault.

Nope, it's Nog's fault

!!/blame᠎ ⁣᠎‌⁠

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's Nog Shine's fault.

7:15 AM

argh!

!!/blacklist-website-force supplementsbucket.com

@micsthepick That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in answer, Bad ns for domain in answer, Bad ns for domain in body, and Pattern-matching website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

@micsthepick You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1708 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body: Utilize comfortable, all around Nerve Renew by jeanpstone on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

morning

mics why

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Effortless With Regard To Make Cleansing Recipes by rleyavies on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

7:23 AM

!!/watch pure\W?simple\W?healing\W?hemp

@micsthepick You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1709 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: www.supplementoffers.org/nitridex/ by chanleyroxy on astronomy.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This settling dread a big kind by Prook tithe on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on http://www.supplementoffers.org/nitridex/ [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in title: maximizedmuscleideas.com/zilotrope/ by mwmlxhsvap on meta.SE

!!/test-a top10sideeffects.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

> Bad ns for domain in answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer
----------
Body - Position 8-28: top10sideeffects.com
Body - Position 13-27: sideeffects.co
Post - top10sideeffects.com NS suspicious dns1.namecheaphosting.com.,dns2.namecheaphosting.com.

!!/test-a vimax

> Bad keyword in answer
----------
Body - Position 1-6: vimax

7:27 AM

@micsthepick nope, they all are. The entire message is surrounded in double stars.

@angussidney see chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43347917#43347917

and chat.stackexchange.com/messages/43197263/history

Aha

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: seb86.github.io/WooCommerce-Cart-REST-API-Docs/#cart-api how to add end point in this Api by Shafin Raza on wordpress.SE

fp- by micsthepick

@AJ hey now

Merged SmokeDetector #1709.

7:34 AM

FWIW I added a Blue Belt section stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal/questions/177

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: This create encourages a human to reestablish by Musen19 Virk on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: Are candles a welcome gift in China? by our7107islands on travel.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Anything interesting happen over the weekend?

!!/watch our7107islands

@micsthepick That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad ns for domain in body and Bad ns for domain in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

@Magisch the weather was nice :)

7:43 AM

Channels mostly

But you were there for that

@micsthepick You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1710 for you.

Merged SmokeDetector #1710.

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@SmokeDetector @Magisch I was just about to reject that

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lol

Restart: API quota is 18958.

7:46 AM

@tripleee in favor of the website?

@Magisch well the website is already blocked by bad NS so watching it at this point is pointless

@tripleee I can see a use case for watching it

Sometimes people use without the actualized link

and if we ultimately decide to blacklist it we will not automatically remove the watch entry because it's not identical

Thats a good point

sorry

Do watch entries age out after a while?

nope, though we should perhaps work on figuring something out

7:47 AM

can't you just roll back to the prev rev?

There is a thing though where people use without the link or split the link

i.e. there is no specific automation for that at the moment, nor a useful policy on what that automation should do

like visit out7017islands com

some entries are specifically there to be watched over a longer span of time and it's hard now to figure out which ones

whereas the majority are probably something we could abandon without remorse

so if it's only bad NS that would escape

@tripleee A review queue for these could work

7:49 AM

or we could just ditch everything and start over (-:

ehh

a watch triggered FP isn't a big deal

no but having 10,000 watches is a big deal

(for the record, "only" 2593 so far)

I'd think we can start aging them out at some point

Like no hits in a year or something

that's what I was thinking when I implemented that but some of the watches I put in were specifically "I suspect this is going to come back in a year or two"

then make a different type of watch

7:51 AM

@tripleee Maybe a new syntax for the watch command to add a comment or parameter for that

yeah, exactly: we need to specify better what we need and implement automation to keep it scalable

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +4 more: Are thereadverse impacts of Vivrax? by Vivrax on superuser.com

and maybe as part of that throw out the ones we have until they are better specified (converting to "will expire in X months" essentially does the same thing, though not in a single big bang)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

watch-8 (which signifies an endless loop, aka indefinitely)

7:53 AM

for the German speakers, !!/quatsch

!!/blame᠎ ‌⁣‍᠎‍᠎

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's Glorfindel's fault.

!!/report apple.stackexchange.com/q/317921/121968

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: FAT file variant used when disk is formatted using by sgeovj on apple.SE

tpu- by tripleee

@tripleee You're already doing that from what it looks like - storing extra information in the watchlists file. So adding a comment syntax and parameters to that should be doable

7:54 AM

!!/watch muscle4supplement\.com

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That pattern looks like it's already caught by Blacklisted website in answer, Bad ns for domain in answer, Bad ns for domain in body, Pattern-matching website in body, Pattern-matching website in answer, and Blacklisted website in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

!!/test-q Nutralu Garcinia These conditions are progressively recognizable in any age gathering and sex. Increment in the size and state of fat cells in the body prompt such Problems. muscle4supplement.com/nutralu-garcinia-za

> Bad ns for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body
----------
Body - Position 1-8: Nutralu, Position 9-17: Garcinia, Position 208-215: nutralu, Position 216-224: garcinia
Body - Position 186-207: muscle4supplement.com
Body - Position 193-206: supplement.co
Post - muscle4supplement.com NS suspicious dns2.namecheaphosting.com.,dns1.namecheaphosting.com.
Body - Position 186-207: muscle4supplement.com

SD is falling asleep

@SmokeDetector yeah, I thought so. You weren't paying attention.

7:55 AM

@Glorfindel use !!/scan

post was deleted

ah

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, +6 more: foreverhealthy786.com/vidhigra/ by wfgqvebtf on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs yeah, by my own spam flag.

@Glorfindel :)

7:55 AM

so scan first, then delete, problem solved

@micsthepick ah, I constantly forget about that.

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs moderator flags tend to do these kind of things to posts :P

!!/blame᠎ ‌⁣‍᠎‍᠎

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs It's Glorfindel's fault.

!!/blame --- Cool people don't cheat :)

@iBug It's Cerbrus's fault.

7:57 AM

@iBug says the person who created the cheat

@Magisch agree in principle, and wanted to do that, but failed to come up with a good design so far. What exactly should the semantics be?

@Glorfindel Did you check the "why"? metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/109767

It looks like Smokey's doing whatever we don't know...

@Magisch yeah, good idea. Currently, when something is watched, I need to go back to the transcript and check anything is mentioned there.

@iBug ooh, good stuff

It says: This post would also have been caught for: Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, blacklisted user

7:58 AM

@iBug thanks, that's new for me too.

in case others are not checking it out, I wasn't aware that manually reported posts now get analyzed

@tripleee Again it's my job (PR #1677)

@tripleee Undo merged it earlier today.

we are moving too fast for me (-:

@tripleee Shot out of the dark: !!/watch-{keyword/website} {regex} || {comment} || {n if it shouldn't expire}

The 'youngsters' are adding so much functionality these days that the 'veterans' are having trouble to keep up :P

7:59 AM

@Glorfindel point

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