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5:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/forskolin-ketoboost/ by unsu on askubuntu.com
 
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You broke chat
What did you do @iBug ???
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: wish you had heard of this product before today by etty nal58 on drupal.SE
 
5:06 AM
They can't even be flagged. :/
 
tpu- by iBug
 
@Catija Can you attempt to redact it?
 
It can be flagged, you just have to aim well
 
@JohnDvorak Flagging that message on mobile is easier than on desktop
 
even on desktop it can be done
 
5:07 AM
@iBug I tried to edit it... the entire box is grey.
 
On desktop, you may need F12
 
You don't
 
Replace that empty message with some actual stuff, then the small triangle on the left is visible.
 
... should I just flag it for you?
 
I've gotten lucky a couple of times and been able to get to the flag without doing anything weird but it's not easily reproducable.
 
5:09 AM
Oh I see the small triangle.
 
HAHAHA
:P
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body: Hand Dryer Electric AC Universal Motor manufacturers by miil233 on superuser.com (@iBug)
 
5:15 AM
@JohnDvorak Did you mean right-clicking to make the selection box persist?
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tpu- by Catija
 
!!/watch handdryer-china\.com
 
@iBug Added handdryer-china\.com to watchlist
CI on cb137d2 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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!!/tea ­
 
5:20 AM
@iBug brews a cup of lemon tea for @­
 
A J
5:35 AM
Mornin!
 
@AJ o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/forskolin-ketoboost/ by unsu on apple.SE
 
Jon Skeet has more votes than you have reputation
 
5:53 AM
!!/test supplement
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/test naturaltestosteronebooster.top
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
> Url in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-43: http://www.naturaltestosteronebooster.top/
Title - Position 1-42: http://www.naturaltestosteronebooster.top
Body - Position 1-43: http://www.naturaltestosteronebooster.top/
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: How to run ansible command into another shell by Vo Trung Huy on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
fp- by iBug
naa- by iBug
 
@iBug User removed from blacklist (9270554 on stackoverflow.com).
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/forskolin-ketoboost/ by user273835 on apple.SE
tpu- by Jarko Dubbeldam
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/forskolin-ketoboost/ by jxtuhezll on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
6:19 AM
!!/test mytarane.com
 
> Url in title, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 13-25: mytarane.com
Title - Position 1-25: https://www.mytarane.com
Body - Position 13-25: mytarane.com
Username - Position 13-25: mytarane.com
 
!!/blacklist-website mytarane\.com
 
@iBug Blacklisted mytarane\.com
CI on ecbd73a succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 15426.
 
6:59 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/forskolin-ketoboost/ by abbigail welch on astronomy.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: How do I convert an AutoCAD DWG file to PDF file with Java or .NET API by Tarun Kumar Nayak on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
7:19 AM
Abnormally few spams today...
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Capture webcam using ffmpeg-python library by mark2017 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
fp- by iBug
 
wtf?
@SmokeDetector why
 
@iBug Body - Position 234-261: hack/Hack-Regular.ttf",text
 
Something must have gone wrong again.
!!/test hack.ttf
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
7:20 AM
!!/test hack/hack.ttf
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/test hack/hack-regular.ttf",tex
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.ttf",text
Body - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.ttf",text
Username - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.ttf",text
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
:42501431 > Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, link at end of answer: Using Schema.org for blogging: Article VS BlogPosting by Weronika Simmons on webmasters.SE
 
SUPER CONFUSED ??????
 
tpu- by iBug
 
7:22 AM
!!/test hack/hack-regular.txx",text
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.txx",text
Body - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.txx",text
Username - Position 1-28: hack/hack-regular.txx",text
 
!!/test hack/hack.txx,text
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-19: hack/hack.txx,text
Body - Position 1-19: hack/hack.txx,text
Username - Position 1-19: hack/hack.txx,text
 
!!/test hack,text
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-10: hack,text
Body - Position 1-10: hack,text
Username - Position 1-10: hack,text
 
7:22 AM
wtf is that?
 
@ArtOfCode If you want, I'd be willing to chip in like 25 eur for getting those
 
hack(er)?\b.{0,50}\b(text|call|contact)
 
JAD
!!/blame
 
@JAD It's Henders's fault.
 
7:49 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Supreme Choice CBD cells of the clean muscle aren't by oztu on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
!!/watch supreme\W?choice\W?cbd
 
@iBug Added supreme\W?choice\W?cbd to watchlist
CI on 574c825 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: network level authentication by Ananya on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
fp- by iBug
 
8:05 AM
@SmokeDetector It's an off-topic question itself
 
8:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Marketing Cloud API limits by MbeckZZ2 on salesforce.SE
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
!!/watch sfeo\.agency
 
@Glorfindel Added sfeo\.agency to watchlist
 
JAD
Do we have an explanation for the immense drop in flagged posts yesterday? metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging
 
CI on 6ef7f58 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
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9:10 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: How to say that you feel apologetic toward someone? by fgjh on ell.SE
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: It is a test It is a test by Qu.Kh on ell.SE
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
@Glorfindel User removed from blacklist (68656 on ell.stackexchange.com).
 
@SmokeDetector v
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto That message is not a report.
 
@SmokeDetector v
 
9:15 AM
@JAD quoting Wikipedia: "There are many national holidays in India: Republic Day 26'Jan To 30'Jan"
 
@Glorfindel You get 2k everywhere...
 
Probably because those Indians are on holiday?
 
I guess so.
 
JAD
interesting
 
Mobile SE chat is weird
 
9:17 AM
So... is it possible that spammers from India are taking their rest until January 30th?
 
Probably
 
It's really abnormal to have so few spams today.
 
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
!!/test uplist.lk
 
> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-22: https://www.uplist.lk
 
9:19 AM
!!/watch uplist\.lk
 
@iBug Added uplist\.lk to watchlist
 
@Undo I'd like to request SmokeDetector privileges on SOBotics respectively Stack Overflow. I have read both the Prviliges and the Feedback Guidance pages fully. Other qualifiers like reputation (currently 677), and participation (My Natty reports since November 7th) should also be satisfied.
 
!!/whois admin
 
@iBug I am aware of 5 admins. Currently in this room: angussidney. Not currently in this room: ArtOfCode, Andy, tripleee, Undo.
 
!!/whois code_admin
 
9:21 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto I am aware of 26 code admins. Currently in this room: iBug, paper1111, Glorfindel, Mithrandir, Magisch, John Dvorak, angussidney, Henders, Ferrybig, Paul Stenne. Not currently in this room: Thomas Ward, doppelgreener, Byte Commander, Suraj Rao, tripleee, CalvT븃, Yvette Colomb, ProgramFOX, Ashish Ahuja, DavidPostill, ArtOfCode, Andy, bwDraco, Undo, quartata, NobodyNada.
CI on 30552e9 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 30552e9 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of uplist\.lk by iBug --autopull) (running on bwDraco/Linode)
Restart: API quota is 14206.
 
@chade_ Hey
 
That sounds no problem.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Anti-aliasing not working in Normal bake by renderhjs on blender.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@iBug User removed from blacklist (51510 on blender.stackexchange.com).
 
9:24 AM
@SmokeDetector tp-
 
@SmokeDetector tp- (+ comment asking for disclosure)
 
@Glorfindel Does that imply that Do we have a consensus about repairable/tolerable spam?
 
If that user fails to notice the comment and edit their post, I'm still flagging it for moderator attention. If they post more of these links, I'm still calling it spam.
 
9:29 AM
@SmokeDetector why
 
@iBug Post - Keyword rent with email example@email.com
 
Bad example email...
 
yeah, should've been user@example.com
 
... or at least email@example.com
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +4 more: supplementschoice.com/supreme-choice-cbd/ by user273850 on apple.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
tpu- by iBug
 
9:33 AM
Ask Different may have a significantly shorter period before a spam is deleted.
 
So hows the spam this morning?
 
@iBug Usually flagged by mod nuke that instantly.
 
@JakeSymons not much, the spammers are on holiday.
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto Yes. I'm referring to Glorfindel.
Glorfindel's always so fast that I can't flag before the spam's gone.
 
@iBug ^ That is me all the time, my computer always runs slow when loading ms
 
9:37 AM
@Glorfindel Up to 5 days they're on vacation (after received paycheck?).
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto After being blessed by online spell casters for their male enhancements.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, +1 more: Most of the myocardial venous blood Supreme Choice CBD by oztu on apple.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@JakeSymons Mine also slow slow slow as well when loading MS, too.
 
@iBug Also washing their face with anti-aging cream and apply cosmetic products - rofl
 
I just made an attempt to add [python] as a favorite tag
 
9:43 AM
I think MS is just a bit slowwww :P
 
And was terrified to see half of the questions were blessed with the light yellow background.
 
@Magisch Thanks for showing that admins also can manage privileges, I missed that point and the docs told me to contact one of the maintainers...
May I bother you @iBug, and redirect my request to you?
 
@chade_ I'm afraid code_admin can't really manage privileges.
All I can do is making a Pull Request for you on GitHub, and wait for a "proper code admin" to approve it.
 
You'll need an admin (real admin) to grant all privs.
!!/whois admin
 
@Mithrandir I am aware of 5 admins. Currently in this room: angussidney. Not currently in this room: ArtOfCode, Andy, tripleee, Undo.
 
9:51 AM
Also, if you actually want the 'reviewer' role youll need a real admin.
 
^one of those folks
 
(Oops, didn't mean to get in the way there, mith :P)
 
@Henders Do you have write access to GH?
 
@iBug That role naming is a bit complicated, especially is code admin and admins are a very different level ^^
 
Errr I can't remember. I can write to Userscripts but I don't think I can write to the rest...
 
9:52 AM
Yes. "code_admin" can add and approve watchlist/blacklist requests.
"proper code admin" can directly write anything.
 
help me ping
Hmm, what's the format?
 
@chade_ I created the Pull Request for you.
 
@iBug on the docs, the code admins are also called blacklisters which is way better to distinct the 2 grades
@iBug Thanks
 
Wait for an admin to approve it.
That shouldn't be very long. Expect a few hours before approval.
 
Hmm...
How much experience do you have with Smokey specifically?
 
9:56 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, username similar to website in answer: Q: Soundcloud credentials authentication by BLITZFM on stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
naa- by iBug
 
I wouldn't advise granting those privileges until you're experienced with this bot specifically.
 
@iBug If SOBotics is like SOCVR, generally the RO there will want a say on whether it is granted. I was granted by rene in SOCVR first.
 
Since Smokey is a bit different than most bots in SOBotics and stuff.
 
@Henders Not sure about SOBotics
 
Better to check with @PetterFriberg or someone first.
 
10:01 AM
I think there might be some subtle differences to SOCVR
 
Cloudy sunset letting me go home and taking rest... cya.
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto Research has shown that humans sleep better on rainy days.
 
@Mithrandir Well I checked if the reasons of the post reported by Smokey, and because I can't give a report (insufficient privs), I handled them with my on-site privileges (like flagging, downvoting, adding comments) and from time to time I also add a chat message under the report to help users with the privileges to identify which action to take a bit faster.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, +1 more: Has this technique been tentatively tried? by kstutrap on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
Generally it's actual admins that approve the request
but other people like to chime in
it's a whole lot less formal then the wiki makes it sound, though
 
10:06 AM
!!/test Supreme Choice CBD
 
> Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-19: Supreme Choice CBD
Body - Position 1-19: Supreme Choice CBD
Username - Position 1-19: Supreme Choice CBD
 
One more TP before blacklisting
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Resistance Workouts) Every time you by user787640 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@chade_ done, you've also got MS reviewer
 
CI on e1e9fac succeeded.
 
10:12 AM
!!/pull
 
art to the rescue
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e1e9fac (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #1569 from iBug/patch-2) (running on bwDraco/Linode)
Restart: API quota is 13776.
 
@ArtOfCode is the plan for this sticker thing to have everyone chime in a couple bucks?
 
@Magisch basically, yeah
if we get enough people interested then costs go down
 
You said 200 stickers were like 57$ right?
 
10:14 AM
@Magisch $57 ? I prefer this formatting. /OT
 
£57 for 110 from the supplier I checked initially. £44 for 200 from the one Catija suggested
 
mhm
 
so actually costs are down a bit on my initial estimate anyway
 
I have a feeling postage fees to all over the world will be higher then that
 
Hmmm, seems more than I thought it would be for stickers.
 
10:15 AM
yup, they are
 
I wonder where charcoal will end up in a couple years
We got a formal brand now and all that
 
Are they just small and round?
 
currently looking at £3.00 per person for 5 stickers each
@Henders 5x5cm, cut to shape
 
@ArtOfCode with or without postage?
 
@Magisch with
 
10:18 AM
How much would that be in total?
 
@ArtOfCode Ohhh so they'll actually be the custom shape? That's pretty good.
 
@Magisch postage total is about £70
 
iBug: I don't really like those stickers
 
goes to star message
 
1184050 is the longest you can get :)
 
10:19 AM
This account is temporarily suspended for sticker aversion. The suspension period ends in 4294967295 days.
 
@Henders yup
 
That's cool
 
in b4 charcoal hoodies & shirts
 
in b4 charcoal billboards and street names.
 
that one might be a while off
 
10:21 AM
Is the intent behind all this branding and formalization to make charcoal into something like a nonprofit?
looks to be developing that way
 
@Magisch nah, it just came up last night and we liked the idea :)
I was working on the branding doc anyway because new logo an all
 
heh
 
@ArtOfCode Thank you
 
@ArtOfCode last night this morning :P
 
@angussidney sshhhhhhh
 
10:25 AM
sometimes I ask myself how it escalated to this point from looking on the web' for programming solutions
these days like a third of my free time is occupied by various things SE
@ArtOfCode about the logo, what's the licensing on it
 
@Magisch good question
 
Would it be okay for someone to go to a shirt designing website and order a tshirt with the logo and maybe charcoal on it?
If not, what kind of license do we need?
 
currently operating on the "feel free to do what you like with it" license that Calv gave me in an email :)
@Magisch but that's a yes
 
@Magisch However be aware while wearing your Charcoal t-shirt you'll need to adhere to a strict code of conduct, such as never walking past dog poo or litter without picking it up.
 
hehe
 
10:40 AM
@PeterJ Yeah, that's right - You'll have to fit at least 50 community smoke alarms in your local area too.
 
And volunteer with the local firefighters for a week
 
@Magisch Only a third? Slacker.
According to the branding guidelines, we aren't legal. Yay!
 
nope
we're illegal
 
and subject to tickets :)
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on fc6d4d7: The Travis CI build passed
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: I went within the Atkins diet and was down to by annabelle50 on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
10:55 AM
@PeterJ I want a charcoal hoodie to go with my SE tshirt
then I can show up to the next dev meetup as a fan
 
11:06 AM
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 6370f24: The Travis CI build passed
 
@Magisch Haha, that's cool :P
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 09706f4: The Travis CI build passed
 
Like embroidered logo on the front and then the full thing with logo + charcoal across the back too? :P
 
way cheaper to get printed rather than embroidered, but it would be cool
then again... these guys do bulk production like that
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on e2d3039: The Travis CI build passed
 
11:16 AM
heh
@JF that was deliberate
 
J F
@ArtOfCode Did you see the new @import?
 
@ArtOfCode If I like something, I'd go embroidered. More expensive but lasts longer in the wash.
 
@JF oh, huh
 
Plus, the logos generally look a bit more 3D when they're embroidered which usually looks good.
 
@Henders I'd get on board with that
significantly more to make and mail, though :(
 
11:21 AM
Yeah :(
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: supplementschoice.com/supreme-choice-cbd/ by ebony streete on astronomy.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
J F
@ArtOfCode Why are the branding guidelines a PDF?
 
we're talking about £23.50 each for hoodies
@JF easiest way to put 'em on the website
 
!!/watch Supreme\W?Choice\W?CBD
 
@iBug Added Supreme\W?Choice\W?CBD to watchlist
 
11:24 AM
OMG!
It doesn't check for case!
!!/blacklist-keyword Supreme\W?Choice\W?CBD
 
@iBug Blacklisted Supreme\W?Choice\W?CBD
 
Duplicate removal.
 
CI on aabe6d2 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 13087.
 
@ArtOfCode Actually not as much as I thought it would be... still, $$$
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Friendly URL's Apache2 with Ubuntu by ConnorPlaysYT on askubuntu.com
fp- by iBug
 
11:30 AM
I think it might be a good idea to start off with stickers for our first run, then another time we can think about hoodies
But it's still fun to fantasize about it :P
 
@ArtOfCode What's that in USD?
 
@ArtOfCode actually affordable
in b4 4 years down the line I come home to the charcoal doormat, inside is a charcoal carpet, there's a charcoal mug on the table and a charcoal brand mousepad
:D
 
@Magisch That... escalated quickly.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: supplementdigestdog.com/red-fortera/ by eleniredd22 on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Mithrandir multiply by about 1.35ish. $30
 
11:36 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: What is BlitCoin? by BlitCoin on bitcoin.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@SmokeDetector Too spammy.
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
If two mods redacted a revision history, can a third mod see the original revision?
 
@Magisch Wearing your full 'Charcoal' branded suit and charcoal shoes (they look like lumps of charcoal).
 
J F
@Magisch You open a can of Charcoal-branded spam
 
11:42 AM
Then setting your home on fire... because you left a can of Spam
 
@JF wonder if charcoal branded spam would be a cool party gag
 
@Magisch Depends on the party, I think :P
 
^
Anyway, night all, cya
 
@angussidney Bye!
 
@iBug nuhuh
Nobody can, not sure about staff
 
11:45 AM
I always assumed staff could
 
@Henders I can somehow recall that a staff could.
Answer: Community Managers can see a list of all redactions and review the changes made if needed.
 
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