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8:08 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Point to point live video streaming by Dmitry on stackoverflow.com
fp- by ArtOfCode
Conflicting feedback on Point to point live video streaming.
tp- by Mithrandir
 
That was vandalism, @Art...
 
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@NobodyNada Registered question as false positive.
Conflicting feedback on Point to point live video streaming.
 
@Mithrandir Not really IMO; it didn't destroy the post.
 
Right, but it was vandalized to be offensive.
 
8:10 PM
@SmokeDetector tp-
 
2-2. We can do this!
 
@Mithrandir true, but not (IMO) offensive enough to make the whole question flaggable.
 
@NobodyNada I would've flagged it as a comment
 
@M.A.R. see my edit
 
8:13 PM
@NobodyNada I didn't and wouldn't flag it either, but that doesn't make the feedback fp enough
 
@M.A.R. I'd say it does; we use tp if the post needs to be deleted, fp otherwise. The rude comment was not the primary focus of the question, so it can be edited.
If the question was vandalized to be only the rude comment, that would be flaggable and tp-able because the primary content of the question was the rude comment.
 
@NobodyNada agree to disagree. Vandalism is usually reverted, irrelevant of the final post status.
@NobodyNada I never flag vandalism
 
sorry; I was unclear. The content of the post is flaggable, but the post itself is not because it can be rolled back.
We give vandalism a tp because the content is flaggable and we want Smokey to catch that content, even though the post itself should be rolled back instead of flagged.
 
Shrug We used to tell Smokey what it caught was correct, when we did flag it, and when we didn't. It caught that post correctly
And it was actioned upon
The more I think about it, the more tp it seems
 
@ArtOfCode Is there no chat API route for getting the current users in a room?
 
8:26 PM
@quartata there's no chat API, period
CE does it somehow
 
It uses some hideous regex on /rooms/<ROOM_ID> to retrieve the list in the sidebar
But it has to be from somewhere on the backend
Otherwise it would need websocket
 
FireAlarm uses /users/pingable or something, which get all users who have been in the room within the past week or two
 
Also something's wrong with the CI build on CE
@NobodyNada hrm
rooms/pingable seems to return an empty array for me, does it need to be fkey'd?
 
@quartata yep, pass it fkey and roomID
 
8:38 PM
Maybe not then, let me check FireAlarm
 
/rooms/pingable/<roomID>?fkey=<fkey>
Returns an array of arrays, where in each array, index 0 is the user ID and index 1 is the username.
 
Nope.
Empty array.
I tried GET and POST by the way
 
@quartata You're right; FireAlarm doesn't need an fkey
 
Request URL: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/pingable/…
Request Method: GET
Status Code: 200 OK
Remote Address:198.252.206.29:443
Straight out of Chrome's network log
 
for me, typing http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/pingable/11540 into my address bar returns JSON
 
8:47 PM
Huh, works from the address bar but not Postman??? dafuq?
Weird.
 
9:03 PM
@JF: I've just submitted a pull request
oooh, and it crashes on code style :P
A bunch of those rules are the exact opposite of the userscripts repo xD
"Strings must use singlequote, Extra semicolon"
 
9:18 PM
fp- by NobodyNada
 
9:31 PM
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
well after a few hours stuck at the bank
what's broke and needs attention
!!/alive
 
@ThomasWard Of course
 
!!/locaqtion
!!/location
 
@ArtOfCode: How come the "SmokeDetector" urls in those last 2 reports aren't shortened any more?
That kind broke FIRE, but fixed now...
 
9:50 PM
@Cerbrus Why is there a FIRE symbol in the Smokey startup message?
 
no-repro
 
@DavidPostill Eh, where?
 
@JanDvorak I can repro
 
Oh right
... I completely overlooked that those are not reports.
 
9:53 PM
Safari 10.0.3, FIRE 0.4.12
 
No wonder smokey was broken
 
-1 not freehand - and what is that weird yellow fill
 
yep too neat
 
@JanDvorak I can't draw freehand with my roller ball. What colour fill would you like next time?
 
no fill
 
9:55 PM
personally I like the yellow
now we have gone from 41 degrees C to 15 in a few weeks. I'm crook and going back to bed \o
 
\o @Yvette
This morning I found a letter on the kitchen table from our ISP, saying they had increased our speed from 35 Mbps to 100 Mbps
Before:
 
let me guess: they also increased the price adequately
 
I've just fixed the "startup messages having an FIRE icon" issue...
 
@JanDvorak yep, $5
After:
 
9:59 PM
eh, could have been worse
 
@DavidPostill ^ That should fix the issue
 
now we need a LOAD userscript
 
@Cerbrus Confirmed as fixed.
 
@JanDvorak Ludicrously Overdose on Abuse Destruction?
@DavidPostill Thanks
 
keep suggesting
 
10:03 PM
Can't think of anything relevant to this room :P
 
wait, that's not relevant either
I guess project Gas Mask could use renaming...
 
How about LAF (Lock, AIM, FIRE) :)
 
LAF would be the whole stack of scripts
a Tavern iFrame would be a "Lethal Overdose of Cute Kittens"
 
TFLOCK?
Oh, what's the point of that "gasmask" script? What does it do?
 
Gasmask hides images from new users
 
10:07 PM
It's very well documented
Oh, you don't see possible spam / offensive stuff?
 
That
I guess it's been superseded by FIRE
 
@ThomasWard I suspect it was because of the HTTPS transition
 
@JanDvorak Different scope, really.
 
Seems to have caused everything to catch fire
 
Also, fire just shows you the image
 
10:12 PM
does it? I guess that gasMask v2 should stop blocking stuff on the main page, and block everything in FIRE
 
There's not user info in FIRE
 
everything
 
Eh?
 
all images inside the posts presented in fire
 
@ThomasWard In the reports [ SD ] is now displaying as [ Smoke Detector ] ...
 
10:15 PM
I'm not sure that'd be practical
 
There was some evil with detatched HEAD so i wonder if that was the core issue.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why does my Xbox keep signing me out of Xbox live by ray on gaming.SE
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
10:35 PM
I've pushed an update to fire that allows users to chose whether or not their "tpu-" feedback also flags the specific post.
 
use case?
 
I was wondering that too; will it be an extra click?
 
It's an option in the settings
You can tun off the flag-casting if you want to
It's enabled by default
 
Oh, that makes sense
I was thinking it would ask me if I wanted to flag every time
 
Nah
 
10:38 PM
Good :)
 
That'd be inconvenient :P
Heh, the script is over 1000 lines already.
 
dem lines, they grow so fast...
 
@JanDvorak and then you refactor and they shrink
 
That reminds me...
 
I guess that counts as murder...
 
10:43 PM
I'm creating 2 nearly identical sections in the settings.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Purpose of using CATEGORY_HOME in android manifest? by Albader Aljeli on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
that reminds me, could MS be modified to accept r/a flags alongside of spam, even though Smokey won't use it?
 
r/a ?
oh, rude/abusive
we handle those the same as spam flags
 
@JanDvorak We've talked about it before; consensus is that we don't need it since rude and spam are completely identical except for name
Feb 28 at 21:31, by Pops
It's... hard... to argue in favor of writing an algorithm and making a bot spend time calculating which of the two flag types to use when they are, in actuality, the exact same flag. It's not even Coke vs. Pepsi, it's Pepsi vs. a second bottle of Pepsi that's using a different but still valid Pepsi logo.
 
we don't need to, but it feels better in FIRE
 
10:48 PM
Red flags should get treated exactly the same. If the flag type you use really bothers you, then go visit the post and cast a flag from there.
 
:-(
Plan B: have the fire confirmation say spam/abusive
 
@JanDvorak Technically, that wouldn't be correct.
The submitted flag is "spam"
 
broken tests are broken?
 
tpu- by Cerbrus
 
10:56 PM
^ Working on updating CE to latest to get the HTTPS fix, but that's breaking some other things. Looking.
 
i've been getting failure notices for all day so :p
 
^^^ I'm sure I've seen this before - and the question has not been edited ...
 
Switched instances. There isn't a shared report duplication list
 
@Undo It's the 4th time
 
11:10 PM
ya know you can always...
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@ArtOfCode Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
CI on a83f178 failed.
 
Oh, I didn't know that command ...
 
Whaddaya mean failed?
I didn't just spend 10 minutes trawling every file in the codebase to have CI fail on me
 
CI on c73fdae succeeded.
 
don't pull
pulling manually because there's probably a merge conflict
!!/reboot
 
11:13 PM
Goodbye, cruel world
Restart: API quota is 8630.
 
no, that's not right... and nocrash.py is breaking things
 
Restart: API quota is 8628.
 
!!/pull
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev c73fdae (ArtOfCode-: Gee, thanks Atom) (running on ArtOfCode/EC2)
Restart: API quota is 8627.
 
all good
@Undo did someone grant UID 260 reviewer permissions manually, or have we got a bug?
 
11:20 PM
I did
 
gotcha
 
They're required for FIRE, someone in SOCVR wanted to use it
 
ah
 
@ArtOfCode What are the criteria to automatically get it?
 
@Cerbrus there aren't any
it's never given out automatically
 
11:23 PM
Ah, okay
Makes sense
 
11:39 PM
Mostly, it's just "if you're all of (1) interested, (2) probably human, and (3) probably sane"
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: SSL not working on home page by Ibrahim Vatih on webmasters.SE
fp- by ArtOfCode
naa- by NobodyNada
 
J F
@Cerbrus I think I’ve found the d is undefined issue’s cause: If the report data isn’t cached, you load the data from the API, which is asynchronous. Then, you synchronously use d after starting the AJAX call.
 
11:57 PM
@JF Only if you click the fire button, and you're too fast for the data to load
But yes, that's probably it.
Oh, and did my metadata parser thing work, @JF?
 
J F
@Cerbrus Yep. Thanks!
 
Excellent
@JF 1 thing: For this line, I was thinking of simply using data instead of code. Just include the raw script instead of the part stripped of it's headers. (Seems more reliable)
 

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