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@trogdor weak monsters have weak weapons. Later strong, although thrash, mobs will have strong weapons. Though they will no be durable as some reward from some chest, for example.

trogdor

I understand that you can apparently upgrade it, but maybe giving a few more slots from the start anyway still would have been good

RollingFeles

Maybe.

CTWind

Also the person who upgrades your inventory space is adorable.

RollingFeles

6:02 AM

I dunno. Expansion is delayed till you found the way to do it, but then it's pretty easy to reach the moment when inventory is not an issue.

trogdor

it isn't like increasing your inventory space would make the weapons break slower right?

RollingFeles

@CTWind this!

trogdor

if the speed they break at is actually a feature rather than an annoyance I mean

RollingFeles

@trogdor nope. just more slot for weapons.

trogdor

I would accept that as a substitute to them not breaking as fast I think

RollingFeles

6:03 AM

also, breaking weapon while hitting monster it will deal critical damage.

trogdor

then you could carry more crappy weapons that you don't care about breaking to kill weaker guys with

RollingFeles

yeah, that's what I did.

CTWind

Ah yeah, throwing a weapon deals extra damage. Breaking a weapon does extra damage on the breaking hit. Throwing a weapon at someone and having it shatter on them is a ton of bonus damage (and typically staggers them)

RollingFeles

Then I had many great weapons, so I use what I like.

There is still some weapons that I leave for some special foes.

CTWind

I probably wouldn't mind if weapons broke slower or if you had a 100% unbreakable fallback weapon or something, but in practice the system hasn't actually felt intrusive despite durability systems I've played with in the past mostly feeling like a tax.

RollingFeles

6:05 AM

But it's not that I'm afraid to lose it, and when I see these special foes I will use this special weapons without a thought that I will break it.

@Miniman @Magician actually, when you have plenty of more or less good weapons, you need sometimes sticks, because they can be used as torches. Of course, torches are better :D

CTWind

To be fair, you always have an infinite-durability-fallback weapon in bombs.

Bombs in this game are an unlimited supply.

Miniman

Wait, bombs are unlimited but your sword is a consumable? @.@

RollingFeles

@CTWind have you visited Evening island?

Miniman

Talk about overturning years of videogame history.

RollingFeles

@Miniman bombs are weaker. They good at pushing back and initiating big badaboom.

CTWind

6:09 AM

@RollingFeles Don't recall that name off the top of my head, though I do have all the maps unlocked.

RollingFeles

Also puzzles and shenanigans.

CTWind

Might not've traveled there yet.

RollingFeles

@CTWind that's the island far to the east.

If you swim from Lurelin to the east. There is small island with sanctuary and if you'll look further to the east there is big island.

CTWind

Lets see... I've been to the big spiral island, the far southeast island, and the series of islands near Tingle's island or whatever it's called.

Doesn't sound familiar, then. Might need to go check it out!

RollingFeles

That's pretty cool place. And pretty challenging.

I wanted to share a story about bombs, but it will be a minor spoiler for you :)

CTWind

6:14 AM

I'm currently working on the desert Divine Beast.

Miniman

Random side note: we have no-one truly qualified to be a moderator. [tongue-in-cheek]

CTWind

Woo, I'm rocking that 9 score. :-P

Adeptus

@Miniman I'm surprised how high I am on that list. 43rd by my count?

Miniman

@Adeptus I'm more surprised that you have a unique score! In fact, you might be the only person with a unique score.

Adeptus

I still feel like a noob sometimes

Miniman

6:26 AM

Nope, I called that way too soon.

@Adeptus Hey, you've been here longer than I have.

Adeptus

@Miniman 23 is one of those conspiracy numbers, isn't it?

@Miniman What, are you sure?

Miniman

@Adeptus ...you tell me.

@Adeptus Yep! 2 years, 8 months vs 2 years, 9 months.

:P

Adeptus

23 enigma

The 23 enigma refers to the belief that most incidents and events are directly connected to the number 23. == Origins == Robert Anton Wilson cites William S. Burroughs as the first person to believe in the 23 enigma. Wilson, in an article in Fortean Times, related the following anecdote: I first heard of the 23 enigma from William S Burroughs, author of Naked Lunch, Nova Express, etc. According to Burroughs, he had known a certain Captain Clark, around 1960 in Tangier, who once bragged that he had been sailing 23 years without an accident. That very day, Clark’s ship had an accident that killed...

So clearly, I'm going to win the mod-election, despite not nominating for it :P

trogdor

6:38 AM

I would like to make my final note on the fact that this particular Zelda game at least like, broke the formula they had going for a while

it's trying some new things they never bothered to try to do before, and that is good in my book

just to put a positive note out there after I bashed minor issues I personally have with it XD

doppelgreener

8:19 AM

@Miniman Last night, being tired as I was, I thought this was asking about an RPG concept, not an election concept. What, indeed, is a negative campaign in an RPG..?

Magician

@doppelgreener Either an evil campaign, or a campaign where heroes fail by design. RPGs don't really do tragedies on purpose.

BESW

A negative campaign is where the NPCs break into the PCs' home, beat them up and take all their stuff.

Anne Aunyme

@Magician You, sir, never played René.

Magician

@BESW Repeatedly. Every session. In the downtime between the games, players meticulously describe how they refurbish their homes, picking out items from a vast catalogue. Their "build", if you will.

@AnneAunyme That is true. Tell me more.

Anne Aunyme

In this RPG you have three stats

rage, dispair, and enemy old age

(it's in French, the translation is a bit clumsy, but it's from Le Cid)

and at least one accessory that is flying in the wind

(your hair, your coat, your scarf...)

trogdor

8:27 AM

@Magician this would be a strange but possibly hilarious RPG

Anne Aunyme

the goal is to die in the more romantic way possible

(not romantic as in romance, but as the literature movement)

doppelgreener

this sounds amazing

Anne Aunyme

Character typically spend the session to complain about their tragic backgrounds

their are often gathering for something like the burial of someone they knew

and there is drama about the legacy

doppelgreener

@AnneAunyme (such as a previous player character, i imagine)

Anne Aunyme

i guess, but not necessarily (I never actually played this game)

Magician

8:34 AM

That sounds like another one of the indie games that are a neat idea but few people actually want to play it in practice.

doppelgreener

I want to play this!!

It sounds extraordinary, hahaha

Anne Aunyme

@Magician Exactly.

the reference (in French): philippe.tromeur.free.fr/rrpg.htm

doppelgreener

It does sound like the kind of game that could easily be done poorly such that it's no fun.

Anne Aunyme

the guy writing it is one of the big figures of the french RPG, and the game is actually playable (some friends tested it)

trogdor

9:34 AM

I don't honestly know if I like the idea of playing a character who has to complain about how bad they have it

I won't say it's automatically something I wouldn't like, but I have a feeling maybe it wouldn't appeal to me as much as @doppelgreener

doppelgreener

@trogdor I'm interpreting the description it -- perhaps mistakenly -- as comedic satire of overwrought drama. If it's a game where the goal is to be making each other laugh, I could dig it.

trogdor

10:21 AM

fair enough

doppelgreener

11:46 AM

I just learned that Japan has a symbol for "see below" notes (like how we use the asterisk* to indicate there's a follow-up note elsewhere), and their symbol -- ※ -- is affectionally called "rice" given its similarity to the character for rice (米).

trogdor

11:57 AM

cool

Wibbs

12:21 PM

have we decided how many moderator positions are up for grabs in the elections yet?

doppelgreener

@Wibbs I don't believe so. (cc @SevenSidedDie @mxyzplk) We have this response on the meta question about it though:

Just some clarification - there is no necessary rush to determine the slot count exactly now, so discussion is free to continue. The number of slots to be appointed can be changed at any time during the election, though preferably it is best done before the voting phase begins. A runner up can also be appointed some time after the election if the need is called for, assuming that there was enough support and competition during the election. No matter the slot count, everyone always gets to split their vote among 3 candidates, so considering using those to support a potential runner up as well. — Grace Note ♦ 20 hours ago

Wibbs

Hmmm. I tend to disagree with the 'no rush' part of that, but hey ho

doppelgreener

@Wibbs Someone responded suggesting that whether there's 1 or 2 slots can also have an effect on the nominations themselves:

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A: Do we want three moderators, or four?

I know it feels like a pretty odd criteria but - least for us on SU, the single moderator slot apparently discouraged some people from standing cause there were one or two candidates who had a near certain chance of winning. I don't really know this community, and who would stand for mod, but its...

If you feel there's good cause to decide soon and/or make a particular decision, it'd be good to leave a response.

Currently our highest voted answers are all expressing "sure, we could, there's advantages, but we don't really need four, either would work, we could add one later or maybe not, whichever," which is not exactly helping make it definitive what we should go for. 😟

NautArch

12:38 PM

@doppelgreener so...maybe?

doppelgreener

Miniman

@doppelgreener Personally, given that more won't hurt, I'm keen to see more - if nothing else, next time someone disappears, it won't be such a big deal.

doppelgreener

@Miniman I am keen to see MORE NOMINATIONS [nudge nudge nudge nudge wink nudge wonk wink wonk nudge nodge]

(no pressure though)

Miniman

@doppelgreener Hey, if you're that keen, time to make some sockpuppets and nominate with them :P

doppelgreener

@Miniman Bryant Jackson's nomination made me tempted to make a Vermin Supreme sock.

Wibbs

12:48 PM

@doppelgreener comment added

NautArch

why do people love to create their own answers...in comments? Fear of judgement?

Erik

Or just not understanding how the site works.

Adam

Or they feel it's only a partial answer

Erik

Given that those are not supposed to be posted, I guess that falls under "not understanding how the site works"

NautArch

and it's easier to critique then it is to create

doppelgreener

12:58 PM

@NautArch It's common on some other stacks. It's a partial/lazy answer because surely someone else will follow it up with a proper one and of course you're totally right and helping.

NautArch

*than

Erik

(Even if everyone is guilty of it from time to time)

Adam

@Erik true, but you could get a bit more granular than that.

Erik

That's true

Ryan

@NautArch they feel its a partial answer and don't have time to write a full one. Or they don't feel its an answer at all just some "related advice." Or another big one is because they think its a bad question that will get closed.

NautArch

1:02 PM

@Ryan i get the reasons, it just bothers me for some reason this morning

:D

Adam

@Ryan or the question already is on hold, but they feel it shouldn't be and use the comment to get around the hold.

Ryan

yeah that too

doppelgreener

@NautArch it bothers me a bit anytime it happens. and it's not just us!

I have run into some stick at other SE sites regarding my persistent "make this an answer" comments to answers in comments. Quite frankly, I have you all to thank for that PoV, and I'll keep at it. — KorvinStarmast Apr 11 at 12:58

Yeah sometimes I'm on SF&F or Workplace and it just drives me nuts and I start flagging comments as "answer in comments." Though at least on Workplace they will delete them sometimes. — mxyzplk ♦ Apr 11 at 19:43

Very much agreed, and agreed that it definitely makes other SE sites harder to use when they don’t police this kind of thing. — KRyan Apr 12 at 17:26

I don't agree that we don't comment answer, but I agree (as others do) that we're really great at cleaning them up. For this reason, I remain neutral on this answer. And I also agree that it makes reading other SE sites who don't police their comment-answers a real PITA sometimes. — LegendaryDude Apr 13 at 13:41

NautArch

@doppelgreener I don't feel so alone!

nitsua60

2:08 PM

@NautArch It's also a little bit of a UI flaw: you read a question, have a thought, and right there's "add a comment." In plain English a comment is a short thought on the matter, and that's what they leave. It can be as innocent as trying to help. (I.e. "not knowing how the site works" need not always be willful ignorance or malice.)

NautArch

@nitsua60 very true. not quite sure why i've got a bug up my arse about it this morning.

doppelgreener

@NautArch have you consulted a doctor?

NautArch

@doppelgreener just went to the bathroom. all good.

and by bathroom, i meant had coffee. then i went to the bathroom.

doppelgreener

@NautArch That is both helpful to know and more than I needed to know. Please report to Friend Computer for decontamination and replacement, citizen.

NautArch

@doppelgreener but i washed my hands!!!

nitsua60

2:18 PM

@NautArch Don't worry--you're not the only one.

doppelgreener

@NautArch Very good, citizen. This was a test. Many commies would have had their "jimmies" "rustled" by this according to intel.

doppelgreener

2:32 PM

Something wonderful has happened. I accidentally prompted the developers of Smokey (our anti-spam bot) to have the bot respond to "💩". They just a few minutes ago completed the feature for it.

nitsua60

That seals it: you've got my vote.
=D

Magician

"@doppelgreener gets 💩 done"

doppelgreener

"How'd you win the election?" "Well, 💩 happened."

@Magician [adds to resume]

Magician

@doppelgreener I was thinking, electoral posters

doppelgreener

@Magician are you suggesting that putting 💩 everywhere will get me elected?

Yuuki

2:43 PM

You mean 💩posting?

doppelgreener

@Yuuki I guess it would be 💩posting! haha

MadMAxJr

3:13 PM

Sigh. Gotta love it when there's a vote to close on my seven year old question...

The Oracle

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Q: What Sort of Voting Method is Used During the Election?

I'm aware of a few different types of voting for elections, but the two that seem most likely are plurality voting (each individual may vote for 1 candidate) or approval voting (each individual may vote for any number of candidates that they consider acceptable). Which of these systems is used f...

nitsua60

@TheOracle "the way that does the most good for the candidates [users] have selected, in order of preference." (source)

What a lovely sentiment ^^

NautArch

3:28 PM

don't feel great about my thunderwave answer, but I also don't think it's a question that has a RAW answer.

nitsua60

@NautArch I feel like it violates a new law I just made up: Conservation of Damage Dice. "You can do that, but I'm still rolling the same number of dice for falling damage. You can reduce your mates' damage by as many dice as you're willing to assume, and that's how we model conservation of momentum in my D&D-verse."

NautArch

@nitsua60 i can dig it

nitsua60

(Oh, and you still thunder-damage them.)

Unfortunately, that'll probably lead to another law being broken (IRL): aggravated battery by dice, as players revolt.

NautArch

oh crap

CTWind

I feel like suddenly being snapped upwards by 10 feet would do worse things to you than just suddenly stopping.

NautArch

3:32 PM

it doesn't work. thunderwave is a 15' cube from the caster. DOesn't that mean the entire party must be 5' above you?

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Q: Is Thunderwave centered on the caster?

This came up in game tonight. Thunderwave is a spell with Range: Self (15-foot cube). The description reads: A wave of thunderous force sweeps out from you. Each creature in a 15-foot cube originating from you... Players Handbook, 282-283 Does the area of effect center on the caster (ex...

dnd-5e spells

did i read that correctly?

CTWind

Also, have questions marked as duplicate always redirected to the 'original'? The recent "Do Skill Feats and Rogue's Expertise stack?" marked as dupe seems to be doing that, but I don't recall that being a thing!

diego

@CTWind I agree. I feel like since you take falling damage when you end a fall you would take your falling damage when the thunderwave hit you, then you would take the thunderwave damage and be pushed up 10ft, then you would start a new fall with an extra 10ft of height

NautArch

@CTWind @diego Yeah, included that in my response. the extra 10' of falling damage because you could calculcate it at X+10

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