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12:00 AM
and 20,000 user databases on a SQL Express instance
@SimonRigharts top of the evenin' to ya
 
 
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@SimonRigharts mornin
 
 
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10:34 AM
Is this good Q to be pulled here?
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Q: SQL Update is really slow (about 20-50sec), Select takes less than 1 second

Tobias KollerI have a SQL Tabe "Document" which contains a lot of rows (up to a few millions). When I'm executing an Select-Statement it takes about 0.5seconds. But when I'm executing an Update with the very same WHERE-clause it takes about 20 to 50 seconds, depending on the amount of affected rows. Here a...

the Update is:

UPDATE Document set State=32
WHERE (State=20 OR State=23) AND
LetterClosed IS NOT NULL AND
TYPE=0 AND
SendLetter=1
 
 
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11:50 AM
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Q: Is there a bug with PL/Scope in combination with associative arrays?

René NyffeneggerI believe I stumbled upon a bug with PL/Scope in combination with associative arrays, but perhaps I overlook something. I have the following package create or replace package tq84_pkg_c as procedure proc_1; end tq84_pkg_c; / with its body create or replace package body tq84_pkg_c as ...

I so should work for Oracle support!
Having said that, I'm not lazy enough
 
@Phil You could alter Jack's view on Oracle support (aka CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW Jack_s AS SELECT 'GOOD' AS opinion FROM Oracle_support;)
 
12:42 PM
This new user needs some serious mod attention
 
@Phil wow, how can he expect answers?
 
 
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1:46 PM
Are you telling me you don't want to tap into your psychic powers to try to tap into what the hell he's talking about?
@Lamak there usually has to be a question before there can be an answer.
 
usually
 
I love upvotes on answers that are wrong
 
@Lamak I have a problem with a friend fix it for me.
 
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A: Correct way to join tables and count

David Gassama SELECT COUNT() as posts, FROM users LEFT JOIN threads on threads.user_id=users.user_id LEFT JOIN posts on posts.user_id=users.user_id WHERE user_id='1'

 
2:02 PM
@bluefeet I think what a lot of people do is just barely glance at the code and assume it would work.
 
you are probably right
 
I up voted yours hopefully others will follow suit as it's the only one there that will solve the users problem.
 
@Zane done
 
2:16 PM
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Q: SQL Server - How many type of timeout can happen, and how?

dsumWhen working with SQL Server, there can be multiple application host accessing it, and each application can have one or many connection. Each connection can potentially have multiple transaction (please correct me if I am wrong). Each transaction can perform query or non-query SQL. In my experie...

I can understand the downvotes on this question but I dislike the complete lack of explanation for why.
 
2:33 PM
@bluefeet damn, I'm creating duplicated content again. +1 to you and gonna delete my answer
 
@Lamak haha, thanks
 
please solution
 
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Q: Display month in columns and the sum of sales below the columns in sql

user16947My result is this: Sitecode Month Amount -------- ----- ------ XX Jan 1000 XX Jan 3000 XX Apr 3000 XX Apr 1000 Result will show like this: Sitecode MonthJAN MonthAPR -------- -------- -------- XX 4000 4000

@bluefeet did you copy paste that from a previous pivot query answer you had. I have to imagine there are about 3 a day asking that same question.
 
@Zane It is a terrible question but I must answer since it is a pivot
5
 
@Zane it's her calling
 
2:38 PM
@Zane While I have a typical script that I use, I always rewrite them to make sure it will work. :)
I actively search for them. Some are good questions some are bad
I prefer the ones that make me work for the solution.
like this one:
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A: SQL combine column names and data types with column values

bluefeetI think this will do what you want. This implements the UNPIVOT function and then get the column information from the information_schema.columns view to get the result: select product_id, product_category, parent_id, delivery_in_days, PROD_EXTENSION_NAME, case when c.data_type = 'varc...

 
Good question better answer.
Both deserving of the 10 points I have to give.
 
I have a sickness, I go through old pivot questions to see if a newer answer should be added.
I want my gold pivot badge
 
@Zane Q only get +5
 
@jcolebrand oh really? I guess I never noticed that I rarely pay attention to my points.
 
@Zane yeap, and you can downvote questions withouth a -1 rep
 
2:44 PM
Good to know.
 
@Lamak but do they still give you a -1 to your own rep if someone downvotes your question? I think they do (except on Meta, where there is no rep)
excepting the exception is Meta.StackExchange (yes, the URL works for both SO and SE)
 
@jcolebrand Isn't a -2 if someone downvotes either your question or your answer?
 
I can't remember
I should probably know
 
Never asked on SO (just Meta)
 
However, fortunately for me, I'm quite certain that it's documented somewhere
 
2:50 PM
Yeap: You lose reputation when: one of your questions or answers is voted down/not useful: −2
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A: How does "Reputation" work?

Justin StandardWhat does Reputation do? As a registered user, your reputation on the site is a part of your identity on the site. It reflects, to an extent, your familiarity with the site, the amount of subject matter expertise you have and the level of respect your peers have for you. It can generally only be...

 
As long as I'm able to help some people out in a given day I'm happy.
Also pick the brains of those of you who know infinitely more than me.
 
see, told you it was well documented ;-)
 
I know, but since someone like you said that it could be -1 for DV on questions, you made me doubt
;-)
 
It was -1 for DV questions, I think until 2 years ago.
 
@ypercube yup, it was. And then it wasn't anymore
 
3:06 PM
The attempted edit on this is awesome stackoverflow.com/questions/2342131/…
 
rejected
 
"Seen that PostgreSQL is a CRUD DB I don't understand at all how it can possibly work in a functional way" ??
 
I thought it best to ignore that and explain what he was missing, seeing as it made no sense :P
 
@billinkc either my eyes deceive me or there is no edit here
He didn't actually do anything...
 
3:15 PM
@Zane Might have been rolled back already. Person removed the answer and asked a question of the original answerer
off to scrum meeting. Ruck on
 
@Zane there was a suggested edit there that was rejected
it tried to replace the whole answer with a comment to the user answering
 
I was looking at the one where Pristine was replaced with Pristine and clear case replace with clear case.
 
@Zane yeah, but what you are seeing are actual edits. I think you don't have enough rep to see suggested edits yet
 
Gotcha. Definitely not on SE. I rarely go there to many web development questions not up my alley.
 
Yesh, I know what you mean. I'd like to have more rep on DBA, but that means that either I start answering some questions, or post interesting questions. For the answering part, most of the questions there are just over my head....I could start posting some questions, though
 
3:26 PM
This seems like a pretty simple question, but it is giving me trouble. Consider
corrmodel=# SELECT pvalue, margstat, datafile_id, index from data limit 1;
pvalue | margstat | datafile_id | index
--------+----------+-------------+-------
0 | 58.5602 | 58 | 448
I want to group together all rows with the same datafile_id and index, but want these groups ordered by pvalue desc and margstat (in that order). Is this as trivial as it sounds?
If not, I can post it on the site.
 
if you are gonna group by those columns, then you want to order by the MAX values of pvalue and margstat, or the MIN values?
 
ORDER BY MAX(pvalue) DESC, MAX(margstat) (or MIN, or AVG or SUM, whatever)
 
@Lamak Good question. The average, I guess.
Actually, maybe i could use sort.
no, hold on, I tried that already.
 
Explain in plain English the order you need. Surely you have requirements?
 
@Phil Ok
 
3:33 PM
@FaheemMitha well, it's just as @ypercube put in his comment
 
@ypercube Do I first order by datafile_id and index?
 
@FaheemMitha It depends on your requirements!
 
Ok, let me try again.
 
@FaheemMitha you first group by those columns, and then order however you want :-)
 
1) I want the rows with datafile_id and index together.
2) Then the groups with highest average pvalue desc and margstat should be at the top
Is that unambigious?
The average is across the groups with the same datafile_id and index.
 
3:37 PM
@Zane check the markdown difference
 
It kinda looks like an aggregation, but I want to keep the separate rows.
 
so, basically, you don't want to group, just order your results
 
@Lamak Right. Grouping is for aggregation, and I don't want aggregation as such.
Not sure what the correct terminology is, sorry.
Should I go ahead and post this?
I don't want to post question which are too trivial.
 
Tell us how the order by didn't work.
 
@FaheemMitha Sometimes it's just best to post a question with 1) what you have, 2) what you want, 3) what you've tried.
anyone see Steve Jones' tweet about a DBA gig in Kabul? :) @Zane, there's an opportunity for you. Are you single?
 
3:42 PM
I asked yesterday about ASPState, I blogged it today:
 
@AaronBertrand I tried various things, most recently -
SELECT * from data order by pvalue desc, margstat, datafile_id, index;
 
But tell us why that didn't work - what was wrong with the order? Very hard to solve in chat, agree with @swasheck.
 
The guy with the massive logs dumped into questions (ram was it?) has been mod-messaged .. sigh. Let's see if he goes back and tries to clean up the Qs
 
@jcolebrand sorry ... you lost me at "massive logs dumped"
 
a scatalogical joke?
 
3:44 PM
@AaronBertrand It didn't work because the precedence was wrong. It was already sorted by pvalue and margstat.
 
or is that scatological? >.<
 
I guess in hindsight it was obvious it wouldn't work.
 
@FaheemMitha I think I'm grasping whay you want, something like this maybe:
 
I'll think about it a little more.
 
SELECT A.*
FROM data A
INNER JOIN (SELECT datafile_id, index, AVG(pvalue) pvalue, AVG(margstat) margstat
			FROM data
			GROUP BY datafile_id, index) B
	ON A.datafile_id = B.datafile_id AND A.index = B.index
ORDER BY B.pvalue DESC, B.margstat DESC, A.datafile_id, A.index, A.pvalue DESC, A.margstat
 
3:45 PM
@jcolebrand obligatory
 
@Lamak Thanks, I'll take a look
 
@swasheck This marks thing one of the day I won't be clicking on ...
 
Though, you need to be careful about the index column. In many RDBMS its a reserved word
 
@Lamak Ok
 
@jcolebrand whaaa???
 
3:47 PM
Wasn't I ranting in here about a week or two ago about a query that just had all sorts of inconsistencies, like field < field?
Yeah, so that had to be rewritten, but fortunately I didn't have to do it :D
@swasheck I usually don't open YouTube.
 
If it is not super trivial I guess I can post it.
 
I'm kinda an elitist that way. ;-)
 
@jcolebrand mkay
 
@FaheemMitha if it took more than 10 minutes in chat to even discuss, it's not trivial
 
@jcolebrand denis leary elitist?
 
3:48 PM
@swasheck idk, I don't drink super fancy coffees (too broke) or smoke cigars (I don't like the taste of ass all day, I'll smoke like two a year)
 
@jcolebrand Good to know. I know so little about SQL, it is hard to judge.
 
can I still be that elitist?
 
@FaheemMitha In your case, I doubt is something complicated. The hard part is for you to explain clearly what it is that you want
 
probably not
 
@Lamak which means someone else is likely to find it hard to explain. So if we can get some good sampling of text there, we might can help the next googler :D
 
3:50 PM
@Lamak Maybe so. Anyway, I'll go ahead and post it. Thanks for helping me clarify the question.
 
@AaronBertrand just starting on your post ... "Usually this database does not need to be in full recovery, especially since if you are in disaster recovery mode and restoring your database, the last thing you should be worrying about is trying to maintain sessions for users in your web app"
nice.
 
@swasheck Not single but maybe she's willing to move to kabul.
 
@Zane here's the thread. sql guys are pretty funny
Anyone want a 3mo DBA gig in Kabul?
 
Although I don't think they have a roller derby team in Kabul so I don't think my girl would be happy there.
 
@Zane i'm sure she'd be entertained
 
4:03 PM
@swasheck I'm pretty sure she'd leave me just for the suggestion.
@swasheck usually if I have a job offer that allows me to hang out with my deployed army buddies it's a bad gig. lol
 
@Zane well, now you know what to do if you want to end that relationship ;-)
 
@Lamak that's what i was thinking
 
and she would be the one that ends the relation, not you
 
Kabul doesn't look too bad. Nice weather!
 
I need to get a passport
 
4:08 PM
I'd take a gig in Dubai.
 
I've filled out the paperwork 2 or 3 times, printed it and taken it to the post office but I either pick the days they aren't processing applications or I miss the time frame (subset of their hours) or I forget it's a federal holiday
 
Ugh all the SQL server questions today are god aweful.
Easy to do as there are so many.
 
@billinkc pasport hours are stupid. In my town it's something like 11:30-1:45 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and 10:00-12:00 on Fridays.
 
4:25 PM
I finally got my passport on December, I had never needed one before, I'm not much of a traveler
 
@Lamak I need to remember to renew mine in a year or two. I think they need to be renewed every 7 years?
Got my last one in 2009?
 
i thought it was 10
 
could it be country specific?
 
Ah, I see it's "was issued more than 15 years ago" on the travel.state.gov/passport/renew/renew_833.html
I must have picked up 7 years from somewhere else. My last passport was <16 anyways, so I needed a new one regardless.
 
so, everyone here thinks the same?
It makes it a poor question. If someone is coming here with a question, they should have at the least tried something. — njk 2 mins ago
I don't think that if a user hasn't actually tried something, automatically makes a question bad
 
4:35 PM
Some of his comments are just rude.
That user constantly posts whathaveyoutried.com
 
I lost my passport a while back. Used to carry it as ID. I might be an old fart, but still get IDed for beer once in a while :/
 
@Lamak nice response
Ok. I didn't know this forum was only for geniuses to clear their doubts. I don't have much experience in sql and couldn't find any related solution after many hours of googling. So instead of pointing the flaws in the question and try to help me out, it will be really useful for me and whoever comes in future with this kind of an issue. Thanks. — jijo 3 mins ago
 
@bluefeet I've seen it before. But in this case, the question is kinda interesting, and would need a really complex answer. I don't believe that just cause he didn't tried something then we should close it
thought on this @jcolebrand?
 
I don't think it's even possible
You'd have to do some ridiculous huge explosion of every possible column string in every value, then do a HAVING COUNT(*)>5 on them. Madness
 
I think that you should flag the comment for a moderator and I'll punch over to the modchat and mention something
 
4:40 PM
@Phil yeap, it may be impossible to do, and that would be a good answer too
 
Maybe the OP means the groups to be done on the first 3 characters, like Aaron's answer. Then it would be doable.
 
I didn't even realize that was an Oracle question. But, I've now answered my first Oracle question ever, I think.
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Q: select data with count of a phrase in sql

jijoI have a table say EMPLOYEE and it has a column EMPLOYEE_NAME. I want to see the phrases which comes in more than 5 records. The phrase can be anything of 3 characters minimum. For example, my table looks like this EMPLOYEE_NAME User1 User2 User3 Client1 Client2 Client3 Use1 Aent1 Auser2 ent3 ...

 
@AaronBertrand nice. But this is valid for the first chars only, the user wants the same for every possible string of more than 3 chars, not only in the beggining
 
@AaronBertrand that works if you know the string ahead, but it looks like from the sample that they want some with the start of the string and others with end.
 
and in the middle too
op says that 'ent' should be one of the results
 
4:45 PM
@bluefeet in response to that comment is it inappropriate to comment OHHH SNAP?
 
@Zane I think that would be appropriate.
 
Oh yuck. Ok
 
BAM. Oracle RegEx look aheads
 
And then there were 0.
 
Some times our users tend to get a little full of themselves and take a very high and mighty attitude. I think it's completely valid to ask a question if you've done your homework and still aren't sure how to do something.
 
4:50 PM
@Zane Don't see us lot in the same light as SO. We're a bit kinder over here
 
@Phil you misspelled gruffer and ready to dissect at any point
 
Translate this to oraclish and it could work.
select substring(EMPLOYEE_Name,Number, 3)
from EMPLOYEE
  cross join Numbers
where number.number between 1 and 7 and
      len(substring(EMPLOYEE_Name,Number, 3)) = 3
group by substring(EMPLOYEE_Name,Number, 3)
having count(*) >= 5
 
@Zane yeah, and I've seen a lot of very simple questions with something like "I've tried many things but none worked" that get 3 pr 4 answers in a minute. With no-one thinking that it's not valid question.
 
exactly. What is the point on post: Well I tried SELECT * but don't know what else to do?
 
The 7 needs to be adjusted to columnsize
 
4:53 PM
@Lamak i think your upvoted comment summarizes it best. sometimes the barrier to entry for "trying" is "starting." give 'em a good place to start and they may just try a bunch of wacky crap
then we'll have to deal with things like "no you don't need a cursor to loop through the data to find the MAX(editdate)" but oh well, right?
 
@swasheck nicely put
@MikaelEriksson @Phil might be able to translate that, right?
 
@Lamak It would perhaps work as is but if I remember correctly there are smarter things to do instead of using a numbers table.'
 
@MikaelEriksson gonna try to write it on a fiddle and see
 
absolutely
a few years ago one could chhose between 5 and 10 yrs in Hungary
 
@Phil everyone in this room I've seen be nothing but helpful i just mean in general. All of the regular chat users are great.
 
5:01 PM
@dezso good to know
 
@swasheck are you telling my I shouldn't have a cursor that cycles through a 500 million row sales table to find all records where someone put extra cheese on their hamburger? :)
 
@MikaelEriksson don't know how to create multiple tables on Oracle, or insert values maybe
 
( SELECT level
  FROM dual
  connect BY level <= 10
)
 
@ypercube you're a RDBMS polyglot
 
@swasheck never ceases to increase my vocabulary.
 
5:15 PM
I have a sproc that runs slow. However the query itself runs very fast if I just declare the variable and run it. Anyone ever run into such nonsense?
 
@Zane Proc take parameters?
 
@Zane parameter sniffing
 
@Zane yes, google "parameter sniffing"
 
^^^^^ x2
Also, high fives all around
 
Yes, one of your parameters stinks
 
5:16 PM
was hoping for group hugsies
 
It takes a simple datetime. However if I just declare the parameter in a query it runs great.
 
You can have a hug, @AaronBertrand, if you really want one.
 
Googling now
 
i've got a lovely bunch of coconuts
 
lol nope
 
5:18 PM
@zane Actually, Grant Fritchey has a really good presentation on parameter sniffing and ways to address it floating out there.
Lemme see if I can dig it up.
 
basically, if your paramater is `@somedate`, then inside your sp add this:
DECLARE @somedate2 DATETIME
SET @somedate2 = @somedate
 
and then use @somedate2 in the rest of your sp
 
The odd part is the parameter is barely used.
 
I've done the same as @Lamak. Ugly but works.
 
5:19 PM
CREATE PROCEDURE MyProc(
@ETLLoadDate DATETIME ) AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @DimCal Int = (SELECT DimCalendarID FROM DimCalendar WHERE CalendarDate = @ETLLoadDate)
END
 
see now this deserves the snarky what have you tried comments
 
@Zane doesn't matter, drives the plan selection.
 
Gotcha.
 
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Q: Mysql Query For My Case

Prishti Kapoori have a table with 3 columns Name department salary now how can i determine using one query to find 3rd highest salary in each department ?

 
@AaronBertrand so ugly
 
5:20 PM
Country of origin for the poster? dba.stackexchange.com/questions/31783/… I read it with an Eastern European accent
 
@Lamak another alternative is using RECOMPILE, or dynamic SQL
 
@billinkc ml9992?
 
I'm recompiling atm
 
@AaronBertrand yeah, though RECOMPILE sometimes doesn't work for me
 
I prefer to freeproccache every 30 seconds
 
5:21 PM
@billinkc I schedule a failover every 5 minutes just to keep my devs honest
 
@bluefeet and the award for most half assed question of the week goes to!
 
@Zane recompiling manually will help for the next execution (and maybe more), but eventually you will get stuffed up by a bad parameter again
 
@Zane shouldnt you be rewriting some t-sql?
 
It's kind of like shrinking the log file but then not dealing with the factors that contribute to it growing again tomorrow
 
@Zane and someone upvoted that question
 
5:22 PM
@AaronBertrand so that's bad?
 
Indeed I am. Actually what I'll probably do I ditch the sproc and just run the query
@swasheck apparently what I'm doing is reading all these parameter sniffing articles
 
@bluefeet slave to your own passions.
 
@swasheck Yeah, when I read questions with awkward grammar, I try to guess where the speaker is from based on their inclusions/omissions
and reboot time
 
@Zane try the thing I said before
DECLARE @ETLLoadDate2 DATETIME
SET @ETLLoadDate2 = @ETLLoadDate
and then use that paramater instead
 
@Zane the plan for the query is what's getting botched, doesn't matter if you remove the procedure container, it works now but you will cache a plan and someone else will use a bad parameter later, and you're back at square one.
 
5:25 PM
@Lamak That's sort of what I'm doing right now that @DimCal is what I'm actually using in the query
 
I would add OPTION (RECOMPILE) to the query. A little cleaner than the parameter switch-a-roo (and a lot cleaner than dynamic SQL), and a little costlier on every run, but you get predictably slightly worse performance than sometimes great and other times really sucky.
 
the parameter passed to the SPROC is @ETLLoadDate and that portion runs the Query to give me the dimcalendarID which i use to sift through my fact tables.
Or am I off base on that and go back to reading?
 
SO has hickups again
 
Oh stack is having issues again today
 
stack is down
 
5:34 PM
Apparently stack is down.
 
and its up
 
Love that flood
 
@bluefeet @AaronBertrand @Zane it burped yesterday too
 
the actual query is more like Select Stuff From FactThings Where DimBusinessDate >= @DimCal
Since dimCal isn't the parameter passed by the sproc but is a declared variable shouldn't that prevent parameter sniffing?
 
This time seemed different from yesterday, to me at least. Seemed DNS-related.
@Zane impossible for us to answer here, Zane. We'd need to see the plan, look in the plan cache, experiment, etc.
We could guess, and we can offer you potential workarounds to try... but we can't analyze based on your chat messages. IMHO.
 
5:37 PM
Maybe......post it as a question with the query plan displayed?
>.>
 
Well, let me suggest that in this case I mean the royal we (I).
And not the graphical plan, please post the .sqlplan file somewhere.
Actual plans (not estimated) for both the fast version and the slow version.
 
I was just asking from a conceptual stand point if portion where the sproc parameter is passed loads instantly to feed a declared variable if it would still sniff for the declared variable.
No need for a Question I will solve this damn problem
 
MySQLers, is this a valid edit? I can't tell. dba.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/6222
 
@MikeFal MADNESS
 
@swasheck This...is....SE?
 
5:44 PM
@MikeFal i was thinking the Muse song ... but ok
 
@swasheck I may have already said this but I found that album incredibly dissapointing
 
Dunno the Muse song. Don't listen to them much.
 
@jcolebrand I hate MySQL but a quick bingle of the suggested terms finds results whereas the original doesn't
 
@Zane you have. i've had very little exposure to Muse before this one --- just what hits the radio. I decided to listen to this one. I started off hating it but some of the songs have grown on me
@billinkc @jcolebrand maybe they renamed the configs in newer versions
 
@swasheck What is this....radio....you speak of?
 
5:46 PM
@billinkc just making sure I wasn't ... bingle? omg, someone crossbranded the two? RUN!
 
@jcolebrand If only you were around for altajeeves
 
@billinkc I really was around for both altavista and askJeeves. I may have even dogpiled once.
 
I'm sorry, read Bingle and I can't help but think "dingleberry"
 
@MikeFal 93.3 ... that's the only radio station that my car knows about
@MikeFal well that's betrays your hubris
 
@swasheck Spotify+phone+bluetooth==win
 
5:48 PM
@DTest what up?
@MikeFal i am currently in a fight with Spotify
 
@swasheck pain and suffering, you? :)
 
@MikeFal bluetooth? You must be also using a power adapter.
 
@swasheck Oh? How so? I enjoy it. Also, Google Music is a pretty good option.
 
the aux input is my win
 
5:49 PM
@DTest fear and loathing
 
@jcolebrand Nope. Motorola Razer Maxx. 23 hour talk time batter life rocks the proverbial "hizzy"
 
@swasheck wut? What's wrong with Spotify?
 
@MikeFal I had rented a car when I went to the StL SQL Saturday. It was perfect, had a bluetooth connector so I could stream anything to the car stereo. I have seen the future and it was the car 11 years younger than mine
 
@jcolebrand @MikeFal just signed up for the premium trial ... cancelled the night before 30 days was over ... still got charged.
 
@billinkc Heh. I hear ya'. I'm actually buying a new vehicular tomorrow and it will have bluetooth in it.
 
5:50 PM
@swasheck shouldn't have done that, should've cancelled at 28 days
 
@jcolebrand Seeing the horrible music your friends listen to
 
@swasheck ....it's $10
 
@Zane ahem skrillex isn't that horrid
 
I spend more than $10 on a single lunch.
 
@jcolebrand the WAT of Spotify
 
5:50 PM
@MikeFal it's usually the principle of the matter
 
Plus, I got to voice activate my phone so when you cycled through the previous people you'd hear "Cindy, Tyrone, THIS IS BILLS PHONE DONT YOU USE IT"
I so wish I could have seen the next person shit themselves with my recorded yelling
Was tempted to sync the wife's phone with a massive burp
 
@MikeFal tight ship, my friend. and "I'm Underpaid."™
@jcolebrand no, it really is that i dont want to pay the $10 / month
 
best thing of working from home for me...not spending $10 for lunch EVERY day..
 
Stupid animated gifs
 
and no, I never would bring my lunch to work
 
5:52 PM
@DTest this is why I live 10 minutes from the office. I go home for lunch 4-5 days a week
 
@DTest seems like your own problem
 
I'm debating today going out, just for the hell of it, stretch my legs in public
 
I guess my point is how much time/energy are you expending to get $10 back? Is it equivalent or greater than the $10?
 
@swasheck completely is...i think if i worked from an office now, i would bring my lunch from home...haven't worked in an office since I've been married
 
@swasheck but why not? It's really nice. Of course, I extrapolate that I listen to ~1000 songs a month on Spotify alone, so ...
 
5:53 PM
@jcolebrand what is this "public" of which you speak? "public" is evil and that which i block
 
I'm paying less than a penny a song
 
Personally, I've been happily paying Spotify for over a year now. I love it.
 
@jcolebrand that's a nice setup too
 
@jcolebrand sure ... just not a whole lot of disposable income falling off the trees. i just don't want to choose to spend that $$ in that way.
 
@MikeFal are you outside the US or have I been paying for a year now?
 
5:55 PM
Denver, CO
 
@swasheck true that.
 
The only friend I have that uses spotify that has decent taste in music is a waitress I was friends with 5 years ago.
 
So I've been paying for one premium for a year or more thn ...
@Zane you should totally follow my activity
 
@Zane "friends"
 
It's all OVER the place
 
5:56 PM
@MikeFal psh ... you're more Cheyenne, WY than Denver, CO
 
I also pay for two more premium accounts, but for some reason I think they don't actually listen tto it much
 
@swasheck i'm about to give streaming netflix the boot because i decided not to pay for xbox gold anymore...that is unless I can get my old linksys router to work as a wireless bridge to connect my bluray player to.
 
@jcolebrand sock puppet spotify?
 
@swasheck no, but I thought about doing that
 
Exactly @swasheck most of them are people I haven't seen in years and for the most part all my actual friends don't have spotify
 
5:57 PM
@DTest we stream netflix through the wii. we're about to dump comcast like a two-bit ... nevermind ...
 
@swasheck the wii?
 
However, another option is Google Music. The service is free and you can upload your own MP3s to it. You can also buy music through their service.
 
stupid microsoft not streaming it for free :/
 
@Zane dont judge me ... my kids love it and so do i
 
As opposed to Spotify's monthly rental approach.
 
5:58 PM
@MikeFal storage?
 
Truth 20000 song cloud drive. @MikeFal
 
i need the hdmi=>apple connector so I can stream it through my ipad :D
doubt that even works
 
@DTest that's what she said
 
@swasheck lack of HD content is bothersome.
 
@swasheck that's how I Netflix as well
 
5:59 PM
I didn't spend the money on a TV I did to watch 480p
 
When I'm not listening to internet radio stations (Tunein Radio Pro), I love google play. Took a while but it uploaded all my music so I have physical and cloud media wherever I wish
 
@swasheck in some kind of nerdy/twisted way, sure
 
@Zane i'm not that into it to worry about such things
 
Gotcha
 
@DTest is there any other way?
 
5:59 PM
I just wish I could rip my DVDs and have the google host that too
 
@swasheck Not aware of any limits, but I do have ~3400 mp3s currently stored up there.
 

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