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2:01 PM
howdy
 
hey
 
bom dia
 
so on saturday I'm hosting two birthday parties for my kids. one in the morning, one in the afternoon.
 
Whee!
I'm miffed that you didn't invite us. Our kids are the same age.
 
i'm starting to freak out a bit about the cakes
 
2:07 PM
Take a deep breath. It will be OK.
You can freeze cake.
 
My son wants this cake again:
 
James!
 
lol almost
two years ago I made the cake blue, for Thomas, but the engine shape is really very dissimilar to those trains so now I just make it look train-like. But it will still take about 8 hours work.
I'm not a very fast decorator, given that I only do it like 2x/year
 
is it marzipan, or plain icing?
 
They do look different, but I was using little-kid-eyes.
 
2:09 PM
It's fondant
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah. that's what I meant. TIL the real name!
 
the lines are plain icing.
but all the flat stuff is fondant.
 
so you've also got to make a cake for your daughter?
 
yeah
she just wants a round cake
 
somewhat easier
 
2:12 PM
but she's probably imagining it being decorated like the ones in the store
 
With unicorns and fairy dust and a rainbow!
But round.
 
Because it is easier to eat.
So order that one.
Ta-da. Fixed it.
 
well, due to food allergies, we have to make our own
 
Oh.
 
2:13 PM
one year she insisted on cupcakes. that was easy.
if you ice the cupcakes with the little icing nib that makes it ruffled, most of the other parents are impressed.
 
one moment... the batphone is ringing.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm impressed that you go to any length.
 
that was weird. there was what sounded like an actual old school phone. why on earth would we have one of those?
 
I'm being hailed. brb
 
@KitFox I admit, I do it partially for myself, because it's fun
 
2:15 PM
:D
 
It's fun and you are good at it, and it makes your children happy.
 
but when there is a deadline, and guests coming, etc, the pressure starts to build
 
And has the added benefit of making you superior to all the other parents in this realm.
 
I dunno. There are at least two moms I know who are better than me
 
2:16 PM
I totally understand. but really, brb.
 
granted... we didn't invite their kids to this party :)
One thing I will say, though, is that at least one of the other moms spent too much time on the decoration and not enough time on the cake itself.
 
was it too dry?
 
it was too... something. I forget what, exactly, I didn't like, but it wasn't as good as the presentation implied it would be.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 "too... something" that sounds like a question worthy of the main site!
 
@Ronan "What was wrong with the cake Mr. Shiny & New ate in Nov 2012?"
 
2:21 PM
might work at Seasoned Advice
 
> In chat, Mr. Shiny & New described a cake as "too ... something." What was that something?
3
 
It was probably just too dry. Maybe just overcooked, even. I don't really recall. Not that it was awful. But it's a little incongruous to have a cake that looks super amazing but tastes meh.
 
How about "Words to describe flavours?" Surely there's already been a question on same!
 
A list question? A LIST QUESTION? What do you think Stack Exchange is? Some kind of forum?
 
2:25 PM
<ul><li>Something something</li></ul>
 
The problem isn't so much that I can't describe the flavour, as that I can't remember what I didn't like about a cake I had two years ago.
 
Forgotten.stackexchange.com ? Might be worth setting up. Help my other half find her keys. Although the amount of duplicate posts would get out of hand.
 
2:41 PM
they'd all have the same answer: "In the last place you look"
 
She's usually without her mobile phone and her wallet too, so there's still two more places to look!
 
she needs to learn to lose things in the same place
 
@Ronan <ul><li>something something something dark side </li></ul> ftfy
 
Now there's an idea! A specific place for losing things. Losers.stackexchange. Oh no wait, that's something different altogether.
 
heee hee hee
 
2:53 PM
@Ronan I can't find that link.
@MattЭллен I think we should give up and allow lists. It'd make things more interesting. YOu can vote for more than one answer you know.
 
@Mitch heresy! blasphemy! You are the anti-site.
 
We'd still delete crap of course. The worst search experience... ending up on Yahoo 'Answers'.
They never answer anything.
@MattЭллен ha ha...I read that as anti-semite. I was shocked. Couldn't figure out where that came from.
 
:D
I know your true proclivities
 
Ooh that stings....
What's a proclivity? It sounds bad.
 
@Mitch it's a slippery slope
 
3:09 PM
you said slippery. heheheheh
 
@Mitch I'd only support this if SE gives answers a way to just create a list of options. List questions tend to attracted answers with lots of answers in the single answer post and it makes voting/accepting really confusing
 
3:37 PM
@MrHen Sounds like you have a number of issues with SE. Care to put them in a list?
 
hello ..why electrical chat room is alwayz frozen
 
what is electrical chat room?
 
i still dont get the feature and understanding of this site
some tym very confusiing
 
This isn't the best room if you want things to make sense.
Just sayin'
 
3:52 PM
okk thnx for saying
 
so u r english grammer corrector ?
 
I try to avoid it. I prefer to collect, rather than correct.
 
okk
 
@JohanLarsson Gauge, really?
 
3:53 PM
you hv good command on this language?
 
It's the only one I know :D
 
u r great \m/
 
So are you!
 
i know 2 language one is hindi and second one english ... i am trying to command on it :D
 
There is a SE site if you're learning English, specifically: English Language Learners
 
3:56 PM
SE meaning?
 
Stack Exchange
 
ok
so wats ur profession ..do you really find this site useful?
 
I programme. If find this site useful when I'm not at work :D
 
hahaha XD
u r programmer great \m/
software engineer :D
 
Yeah. How about you?
 
4:00 PM
i am dump electronics engineer student :D
when ever i post any question here ... they just vote down it :/
 
@MattЭллен Must resist lacist comment.
 
@Ronan try harder...
 
wats lacist comment?
 
@rAsHmI post it where, EL&U or electronics?
 
i post in electrical forum
 
4:03 PM
ah
@rAsHmI well, in some languages, notably Chinese and Japanese, native speakers often find it hard to differentiate between l and r as native English speakers pronounce them. So they get mixed up.
 
l and r ...but they totally different how can anyone make mistake?
 
A famous parody of this is engrish.com
Maybe parody isn't the right word. I suppose it's more a sending up of it.
 
okk
so in what software language u have command
?
 
mostly python, c# and javascript. I've worked in others, but these are the three I use the most.
 
ok
python the gme designing lang O_o
 
4:12 PM
it's a scripting language, but you can use it for anything
for example, we use it to build releases of our software
And run a website
 
ok O_o
do you charge if some one want to learn it from u?
 
If I was teaching someone I would ask for money, yes.
teaching is difficult
 
ok))
 
@Ronan Eh, most of my issues have been documented in various Meta answers. ;)
 
ronan entered .. the entry is funny :D
 
4:19 PM
@MattЭллен haldel?
 
Holdall*
 
sorry i am taking my words back
 
Hello, again.
 
willkommen
 
Oooh, videos embed. Funky.
 
4:37 PM
> 25.839
They do indeed.
And hello, everyone.
 
Hello one that was not included when that one said everyone
we need a word for that
 
Hello plus one.
 
4:51 PM
Umm what?
Have I just stumbled into the incomprehensible room or something??
 
You might think so, but I couldn't possibly comment.
 
> All the
unfenced elephants in our sample had distinct ‘home sec-
tors’ linked by ‘travel’ corridors. Within each home sector
the elephants concentrated in favourite ‘core zones’. Such
core zones tended to lie in protected areas whereas corri-
dors typically crossed unprotected range. Elephants moved
significantly faster along corridors than elsewhere in their
range, which suggests awareness of danger outside the pro-
tected area.
 
an elephant never forgets
time to get on my travel corridor
 
Ah haha.
@MattЭллен Nice link.
Bai!
 
5:09 PM
Long article by a professor who is losing her mind to dementia. She describes what it is like. slate.com/articles/health_and_science/family/2014/03/…
I'm now too tired to read something so emotional, but I want to read it later, so I'm saving it here.
 
@Cerberus late reply been working. Gängtolk tolk (gauge) for threads. Maybe gauge is wrong idk.
 
> Elephants frequently come into contact with two local tribes in Amboseli National Park: the Kamba, an agricultural group that poses little threat, and the Maasai, who frequently clash with elephants over land and water thanks to their nomadic herding lifestyle.
An earlier study showed that elephants here can discriminate between the clothes worn by these two groups via color and scent, but a new paper in PNAS finds that they are capable of even more subtlety when it comes to auditory information. Elephants can distinguish between different subgroups of humans based on vocal cues, using th
@JohanLarsson Huh what is that?
What does it do?
Is it like a spindle?
 
You check if threads are according to spec with it
 
Ah OK.
And what does gäng mean?
 
The black side should fit and the red should not
gäng means gang or thread
 
5:21 PM
Ah OK.
@JohanLarsson Right, so gauge is apparently the right word.
That's odd if it should be related to talking.
Perhaps the modern sense of talk was derived from from other meaning.
 
tolk also means translator (the guy you have with you who knows both your language and the other language)
I say "hej" to the tolk, he says "Hiiiuy" or something to you :)
 
Haha.
Yes, that is exactly what tolk means in Dutch.
A live, oral translator.
 
guessed something with many vowels
 
Haha.
Hoi is hi, hee is hey.
 
Vowel density 67% for both
 
5:28 PM
Double i's are rare in Dutch.
Because a long i is made by adding an e, oddly.
a → aa
e → ee
i → ie
 
we have very few doubles
maybe cos åäö
 
In Mediaeval Dutch, a long vowel could be written in three ways:
1. By doubling it.
2. By adding an e.
3. By adding an i.
@JohanLarsson I don't know what to say. You don't know what you're missing!
 
:) <- single most useful answer when chatting
 
5:46 PM
@MrHen I feel like 'voting for more than one answer' solves that problem.
@Cerberus 'Oi' is 'you just stepped on my foot'
 
I found that I can get all of Charles Dickens' novels for less than 70 USD.
 
@Mitch I thought it was Jewish.
 
@JasperLoy you can probably download them all for free
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yup, indeed.
 
5:51 PM
@MattЭллен You mean the difference between l and l.
@JasperLoy You can probably get them all for free on project gutenberg.
@Cerberus No that's 'Oy'. Totally different.
 
Oh, really?
 
Jinx?
 
And what do pigs say?
 
Oynk. Obvyously.
 
Oink.
 
5:53 PM
happy day! @Mitch, I have question for you! (please excuse the interruption)
 
OK.
 
By answering that I made no assumption or lack of assumption of connection however distant with swine.
 
...
 
@medica I think I heard my name.
Interruptions are welcome.
 
You did! :)
 
5:54 PM
or at least tolerated.
or at the worst, not paid attention to.
 
I just want to ask you why you think my bonused question sounds fake.
 
or... I'm running out of options.
@medica I have less memory than a fish. link?
 
@Mitch RAM is cheap these days.
 
the "swear on the genitals" question
 
@JasperLoy I don't have a RAM implant device in my skull yet.
 
5:55 PM
@medica You asked that? LOL.
 
6
Q: Why place a hand on the Bible instead of the Judge's genitals when taking an oath?

medicaEtymonline gives the etymology of testify as ...from testis "a witness".. + root of facere "to make"... Biblical sense of "openly profess one's faith and devotion" is attested from 1520s. Related: Testified; testifying; testification. (also, testament, intestate, etc.) In Biblical times, to...

yep. me.
 
@medica I wouldn't swear on your genitals if ... wait this is not what I intended to say.
 
:)
But why do you think I made this up, is my question.
 
Ah I think you are referring specifically to...
This sounds all so made up. — Mitch yesterday
 
yes.
 
5:57 PM
In modern times...
 
Oh, it is not the question that sounds fake, it is all the answers that seem to justify it.
 
@Jasper (Hi!)
 
It sounds like a folk etymology.
 
Hmm.
 
@Mitch But the vote doesn't tell you which of the many answers per post are the best.
 
5:58 PM
Many words sound a like that have very divergent etymologies. Just because two words sound alike doesn't mean they have the same provenance.
 
Folklore from the past
 
Should I leave out details that justify my question to make it better?
 
@MrHen voting isn't perfect.
!!youtube some like it hot nobody's perfect
 
AFK, back in a bit
 
Today I placed another order on amazon, then cancelled it in time, phew!
 
Ohh nice kitty!
 
@MattЭллен Why does the centre one have more eyes?
@medica If you get only one book on Buddhism, it should be In the Buddha's Words.
 
@JasperLoy because reasons
 
@MattЭллен Good good.
Let me give you an example of why amazon prices are crazy...
The CALD with CD-rom hardback is cheaper than the CALD without CD-rom hardback, lol.
 
6:10 PM
@medica No!
 
that is crazy
 
What details would you want to leave out?
By the way @medica , Mari-Lou's answer contains more than a few significant errors. I wouldn't trust it.
 
I have half a mind to read Dickens' 15 novels and 5 Christmas novellas...
 
@JasperLoy you'll need your whole mind to read those.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah, terribly difficult.
 
6:14 PM
@medica your own question seems to answer itself:
> The Latin word for "witness, one who attests" is testis, as well as testicles (from Latin testiculus, diminutive of testis).
This statement just says that testicles are "little witnesses"
You typically don't back-form the main word from its diminuitive
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Typically not, but mannequin comes close :P
 
@oerkelens I suppose. If mannequin ever came to mean "man", then it'd be a non-diminuitive word formed from the diminuitive (in a different language) of the word it replaced.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, no.
Testis also meant man's ball in Latin.
I don't know how else to say it.
 
6:31 PM
@Cerberus: but can it not be that the guys thingees have that name because they are witness to his masculinity?
It seems the Romans had weird ideas anyway, since penis meant tail.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The current use is a dummy used in fashion industry in English) which is gender neutral. In Dutch we back-loaned it to mean the models on the catwalk (male and female). In that case it was back-formed from a diminuative :)
The primary decent word in Latin for cōleī was testēs (sing. testis). This word may have derived (although the etymology is uncertain[1]) from the plain Latin for "witnesses" (as in English attest, testify, testament and testimony); a man swore an oath upon what he held dearest; or, his testicles were witnesses to his virility. Cicero's letter again says "testes" verbum honestissimum in iudicio, alio loco non nimis.
("In a court of law, witnesses is a quite decent word; not so elsewhere.") The diminutive testiculī was entirely confined to the anatomical sense, and supplied the English word testicles and testicular, as well as its Romance equivalents.
 
6:53 PM
@oerkelens Sure, that is what several dictionaries seem to suggest.
@oerkelens That's just a kind of euphemism in Latin...besides, we can use tail in English to the same end...
@oerkelens To me, a mannequin is primarily a paspop. A person used for the same thing would be its secondary sense to me.
But perhaps I was influenced by the English word, I don't hear the Dutch word much.
 
@Cerberus so, testis and testis, two words with different meanings, no connection?
 
No, there is a connection.
The question is, how does the connection work exactly?
 

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