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12:22 AM
Ah.
 
1:05 AM
New personal best. But could have been so much better.
Those 1024 were dangerously close all the time. But never quite met up.
 
Not bad!
 
1:59 AM
@RegDwigнt Nice.
I've been getting stonewalled like 5 moves after getting the 4096 lately.
 
> 29.775
 
Greetings.
 
2:14 AM
Ave.
 
@Cerberus It must be quite late by you? No?
Or early.
 
@DavidM 3.23
You?
 
@Cerberus EST so, 22:23 here.
 
What does EST stand for?
 
Eastern Standard Time
 
2:24 AM
So five hours' difference.
 
Yes.
Actually, technically, we're in Eastern Daylight Time now.
 
That means the east coast of the American continents.
 
Yes.
I'm about 30 miles north of New York City.
 
Perhaps the eastern tip of Brazil is later?
 
@Cerberus Probably. I know that Newfoundland, Canada is. I believe that is called Atlantic time.
 
2:26 AM
It's always so hard to remember how many hours the difference is.
Ah.
Is it common for you guys to use those abbreviations?
We use say GMT +1.
I don't know what my time zone is called.
 
@Cerberus Most Americans do not use GMT +/-
 
Hmm why not?
 
I understand it, but, I'm in the minority.
We have a national obsession with ignorance.
 
Then you don't have to memorise abbreviations, and you can easily compare zones.
Ah haha.
Well, in this case, maximum ignorance would mean not remembering any of those abbreviations!
 
I can't explain it.
A time zone is a region that has a uniform standard time for legal, commercial, and social purposes. It is convenient for areas in close commercial or other communication to keep the same time, so time zones tend to follow the boundaries of countries and their subdivisions. Most of the time zones on land are offset from Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) by a whole number of hours (UTC−12 to UTC+14), but a few are offset by 30 or 45 minutes (for example Nepal Standard Time is UTC +05:45). Some higher latitude countries use daylight saving time for part of the year, typically by changing ...
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Time in the United States, by law, is divided into nine standard time zones covering the states and its possessions, with most of the United States observing daylight saving time for approximately the summer months. The time zone boundaries and DST observance are regulated by the Department of Transportation. Official and highly precise timekeeping services (clocks) are provided by two federal agencies: the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (an agency of the Department of Commerce); and its military counterpart, the United States Naval Observatory (USNO). The clocks run...
 
2:32 AM
I'm sure there is some cultural factor...
Oh, and Nepal is crazy.
 
Nepal is.
And, their time is off, too.
:)
 
Indeed.
 
I believe it has to do with the latitude causing the hours of sunshine to be off.
 
What do you mean?
 
The history of standard time in the United States began November 18, 1883 when United States and Canadian railroads instituted standard time in time zones. Before then, time of day was a local matter, and most cities and towns used some form of local solar time, maintained by some well-known clock (for example, on a church steeple or in a jeweler's window). The new standard time system was not immediately embraced by all. Use of standard time gradually increased because of its obvious practical advantages for communication and travel. Standard time in time zones was not established in ...
It's due to the history of the railroads, apparently.
Higher latitude countries would have the sun rise later and set earlier, no?
 
2:36 AM
What is "it"?
Dawn and dusk are determined by latitude as well as season...
 
@Cerberus The odd time-zones in the United States.
@Cerberus Yes, of course.
 
You mean the use of abbreviations rather than numbers?
 
@Cerberus Yes.
 
There is a connection with railroads?
 
On the equator, the sun rises and sets 6A and 6P.
According to the History of Time article, the US time zones were initially set by the railroad companies.
 
2:40 AM
But at some point they were standardised...
 
Yes. And, then were synchronized to GMT.
 
We had different times in different towns here.
 
So did we prior to 1883.
 
One had to set one's watch upon entering a new town when one was travelling across the country.
 
And, just to confuse matters, we use Daylight Savings Time. So, currently, we're in DST, so we become GMT -4, instead of -5.
@Cerberus Assuming one had a watch.
 
2:42 AM
Yes, almost all countries use DST, don't they?
Well, one did have watches in the 19th century!
 
@Cerberus Do they? I was under the impression a fair number did not.
@Cerberus They were invented, but not everyone could afford one.
 
Just as not everyone could afford to travel.
 
@Cerberus Touché
 
Blue: DST.
Red: no DST.
Orange: no more DST.
I am against it btw.
 
@Cerberus I've never fully understood its value, myself.
 
2:45 AM
And it seems our continents are losing the fight.
Your continent is already encroached upon...
We have lost Iceland and Russia.
And now the Crimea.
 
Ha.
 
At least we still have Persia and Israel!
 
I'm shocked that half of Australia does and half does not.
 
Yeah?
Why?
 
No clue.
 
2:49 AM
OK.
 
The whole thing is silly in the modern age.
 
What I would prefer is for institutions to simply declare that work starts at 10 in winter.
It's easier to remember, I should think.
 
Or just tell people to suck it up and go to work in the dark.
I do it all of the time.
 
Well...
It sucks, doesn't it?
It's not healthy, for many people.
 
My work starts at 7 AM, so for 2/3 of the year, it's dark when I rise and head to work.
 
2:51 AM
Wow.
What do you do?
 
Anesthesiologist
 
I see.
So this is a morning shift that you have to do?
 
The Operating Room schedule runs typically between 7:30 and 15:30.
 
Hmm why so early?
 
And, then we continue until the cases are done.
Several reasons
1. So, that long cases will be finished by 5PM.
 
2:52 AM
Why is 5pm important?
 
2. So, the complications will arise earlier in the day when people are around.
Most of the US finishes work at 5
So, our workforce is greatest before 5.
Third reason: Tradition.
 
You mean the people who don't start at 7?
 
Yes.
 
It's either some people have to work late every day, or others have to work early every day, and the latter was chosen?
 
Fourth reason, surgeons can finish several cases by noon, and then go to their offices and see patients.
It's probably the fourth reason that really holds the most weight.
 
2:54 AM
Why is noon important?
 
Noon is lunch time. They break for lunch, and then head to the office to see patients.
4 hours in the office, and knock off by 5.
 
What if they see patients two hours later?
And continue until 7pm?
 
They see fewer patients. Most of their staff wants to leave at 5.
It's not just the surgeon in the office.
 
So then it comes down to what I mentioned earlier?
 
Nurses, medical assistants, receptionists.
Yes.
 
2:56 AM
OK.
And you are the victim...but you don't seem to mind much.
 
I guess people wish to spend more time with their families during the "conventional" times. Most Americans eat at 6PM.
I'm a victim and beneficiary.
On a normal day, I leave work around 3:30. And, I have time to myself before I have to care for the children and deal with my wife.
 
I'm sure many people would like to be home by 6; on the other hand, I'm also sure many people do not want to have to wake up at 6.
OK if getting up early works for you, good.
 
My schedule is quite varied, though. I have standard days, and then I have late days. And, of course on-call days.
 
Right.
That must be tiring.
 
The call days are overnight sleeping in the hospital.
 
2:59 AM
Do you generally get enough sleep there?
 
You either get used to it or have a psychotic break.
 
That's no fun.
 
Generally, yes.
 
Why do we burden and exhaust our doctors so?
 

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