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4:00 PM

But, seriously, when Palin opens her mouth to pontificate about "family values" and then has children who have children out of wedlock, pointing out the hypocrisy is not misogynistic. It can be phrased that way, but I think you have to consider the source. And the source is not "all people who think Palin is an idiot."

@RegDwightАΑA Knack yourself out: $ oed /wurst => blutwurst bratwurst bratwürste erbswurst knackwurst leberwurst liverwurst mettwurst schinkenwurst Weisswurst wurst.

@tchrist How could it get any wurst?

RegDwight АΑA

By typing sudo get me any wurst, duh.

Typical sudointellectual trick.

RegDwight АΑA

I only just realized how gross the name Liverpool is.

4:05 PM

@RegDwightАΑA Blackpool is darker.

@RegDwightАΑA Its demonym is far wurse.

@RegDwightАΑA Oh, dude. You had to do that, didn't you?

Also, I didn't know you could by Liverpool by the gross.

RegDwight АΑA

Wow. That's like, three pings in three seconds.

Gaelic note: Dublin has the same meaning as Blackpool. Or so I'm told.

4:06 PM

@RegDwightАΑA Ok everybody, on my mark.

One.

Two.

Three.

Wait, we can't all fit on your mark.

RegDwight АΑA

Dub Dub Dub Lin Dot Org.

Drat.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist to its defense, it is possessed by a demon.

Question for ELU: "Does prepossessed mean the same thing as pre-owned? How are they both used?"

RegDwight АΑA

4:09 PM

My preposse is on Broadway.

grosses out

RegDwight АΑA

That was rather easy. Hm.

Keep yer foreskin to yerself, kiddo.

RegDwight АΑA

Last I checked Beatrix was female.

You’re the one with the prepuce on Broadway.

And me, with prepuke.

Let’s leave it there.

RegDwight АΑA

4:11 PM

Better than Spielberg with his precocks.

@tchrist You mean you work for tips?

@RegDwightАΑA His dementia praecox?

RegDwight АΑA

No, Dementia was you, shopped.

@RegDwightАΑA So what? The loose fold of integument which covers the glans penis (or the glans clitoridis); the foreskin.

@tchrist You read that in a cartoon. Similar to "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog."

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist I never said anything to the contrary.

4:13 PM

Hey, leave him alone. He is just sore that he doesn't have a fiveskin.

RegDwight АΑA

High five.

You only think you’re pulling my leg.

RegDwight АΑA

No I really hope I don't think that.

Also, I thought foreskin was a warning in golf that you are uncircumcised, and that your wang might possibly strike the group playing ahead of you.

RegDwight АΑA

Hm. Tiger Wang.

4:15 PM

No, it means loose cheese.

drum roll Ahem ... "ahead"?

RegDwight АΑA

Yes yes very witty.

Write a book.

@tchrist No, @Cerberus is the Dutchman with loose cheese, you looser.

RegDwight АΑA

Lavapalooser?

Immer los, desto loser.

RegDwight АΑA

4:16 PM

What is this grammar?

It is faux grammar, such as you practice in practically every sentence.

RegDwight АΑA

Gehe nicht über Los, ziehe keine 200 ein.

@Robusto I wouldn't call that practice. Clearly that's mastery.

You are totally Lost.

RegDwight АΑA

Lost del Rio?

Lost (TV series)

Lost is an American television series that originally aired on the American Broadcasting Company (ABC) from September 22, 2004 to May 23, 2010, consisting of six seasons. Lost is a sci-fi/drama series that follows the survivors of the crash of a commercial passenger jet flying between Sydney and Los Angeles, on a mysterious tropical island somewhere in the South Pacific Ocean. The story is told in a heavily serialized manner. Episodes typically feature a primary storyline on the island, as well as a secondary storyline from another point in a character's life. Lost was created by Jeffre...

Much ~~worse~~ wurst.

RegDwight АΑA

4:18 PM

Los Del Rio, also known as "The Del Rios," was a Spanish Latin Pop duo who formed in 1992 and broke up in mid-2007. They were best known by their smash-hit and hot dance single "Macarena", originally released in early 1994. The song peaked at the Hot Dance Singles and Billboard 200 by mid-1994. The song became a big hit in US and Mexico. The group decided to make a few remixes and other styles of the song. They became more famous (only by a bit) when they released the single "Tengo, Tengo" released on February 18, 1996. It was featured on the album Fiesta Macarena released in 1996. The g...

No, this is.

No, the other is. Like-minded people agree.

Lost el Río?

It’s still in the cañon.

RegDwight АΑA

My Wurst-Käs is better than yours. I could teach you, but I have to charge.

@RegDwightАΑA Well, my dentist has a practice, but I count on his mastery. So there.

pukes

4:19 PM

@tchrist But is it cañonical?

RegDwight АΑA

No puking on dentists in this chat.

Yeah, what's up with that?

General reference! — Xavier Vidal Hernández 3 mins ago

Whoda thunk?

RegDwight АΑA

Major Tom!

Private Opinion!

4:21 PM

Special Forces

Special forceps.

RegDwight АΑA

Admire Al.

Class warfare

Orderly retreat.

"Rear" admirable!

Family affairs.

Admirable rear.

4:21 PM

@tchrist Hey. This is a family show.

Plagiarist.

Some of my best friends are Family.

RegDwight АΑA

Plague-guitarist.

Yeah. Sly and the Family Stoner.

@tchrist Roll your own, they say.

4:22 PM

Own your roll.

Synchronicity cannot be proven across reference frames, and indeed, has no meaning.

RegDwight АΑA

Troll your feed.

@tchrist You're too Jung to believe that.

Contemporary English Corporal.

@ΜετάEd We are playing way past military ranks now. Just thought you'd like to know.

Keep up.

4:24 PM

Puns yesterday, puns tomorrow, but never puns today.

Prepare catlock, insert . . .

RegDwight АΑA

Latcock?

Key pup.

RegDwight АΑA

Very wee tea.

Stop the word, I want to get off.

4:25 PM

Porridge.

RegDwight АΑA

Eric?

Mahlzeit. Or Mah Jongg. Or something. Just letmeouttahere.

RegDwight АΑA

I am about to mute a commie.

Porringer.

Gotta rhyme?

RegDwight АΑA

Why would one ring a pore?

@tchrist no rhyme here, only reason.

4:26 PM

and gae the Prince of Orange her.

Over tea.

RegDwight АΑA

Eating an orange
While making love
Makes for bizarre enj-
oyment thereof.

Don’t do that.

RegDwight АΑA

Now that's what I call an enj- / ambment! — RegDwight АΑA Oct 8 '10 at 14:18

O what’s the rhyme to porringer?
Ken ye the rhyme to porringer?
King James the Seventh had ae dochter,
And he gae her to an Oranger.

RegDwight АΑA

"Had ae dochter" is what they still say in the local dialect of my neck of the woods.

4:29 PM

There was a merry PASSENGER,
a MESSENGER, a mariner:
he built a gilded GONDOLA
to WANDER in, and had in her
a load of yellow ORANGES
and PORRIDGE for his provender;
he perfumed her with MARJORAM
and CARDAMOM and lavender.

RegDwight АΑA

I see you're on a roll again. Keep it up till I log in from home again. See you on the other side.

Chatkilling monster I.

Ken ye how he requited him?
Ken ye how he requited him?
The lad has into England come,
And taen the crown in spite o’ him.

@mussri I can ping you from here.

And so can I, and so can any man, but do they come when you call them, Glyndŵr?

5:01 PM

I come, Greymalkin.

Only one? Marry, ’tis enough.

hello.

Hello.

’lo.

Good morn.

5:17 PM

(morning-p)

@ΜετάEd That like morning wood?

Ah, I'm trying to chat on my mobile through Team viewer.

A courageous move, Minister.

On 3G, it is actually working quite well.

Haha, yes, and quite novel, don't you say, Humphrey?

Want this a tripartite euphemism, by the way?

OFMH HaveABeer is now alleging that Coleridge is misusing English!

Congratulations, but I'm unsure that the 'rare' usage is correct here! I presume that the writer misuses 'rare' for 'scarce'! — Xavier Vidal Hernández 3 mins ago

5:26 PM

@KitFox I was speaking with a lisp.

facepalms

sighs And I am trying to figure out how to respond to his meta question...

Haha, X is funny.

And I'm chatting on my mobile, hurray! Except that it won't recognise 'hurray', so I can't Swype it.

@JAM Since you are so expert on this matter, what could or should be the role of "poethics" in that context? — Xavier Vidal Hernández 44 secs ago

Poe. Ethics. Nevermore.

Learn2Greek.

5:32 PM

Yes. I'm for deleting Xavier's idiot blathering. I wasn't before, but if he's going to say that Coleridge "misuses" English ... the mind reels.

Élitist.

@Cerberus You can teach it to recognize "hurray" ...

At least he isn’t using the post-m0dren generator today.

Still nonsense.

@Robusto Alas, that doesn't work in Team Viewer. Even automatic spacing doesn't work.

@Cerberus Then I'm glad I don't use Team Viewer.

5:38 PM

@Robusto It's the only way I can chat at all on my mobile, because SE refuses to log me in at all on my mobile.

@Cerberus Yeah, but there's a fix for that.

It refuses any credentials I throw at it, as usual on a new device. Do you know of a way?

I will be at my destination in fifteen minutes, by the way, so I will have to go offline then.

Aye, but is it a rare device?

thwacks

Feb 3 at 13:05, by Will Hunting

@robusto I saw your chat login problem. Did you try this? Log in to ELU, go to english.stackexchange.com/users/chat-stackexchange-login, and login from there without having to key in anything.

This always works for me.

5:43 PM

I found an Iliad ref, in the Bryant translation:

@Zairja Don’t forget the Bryant translation of the Iliad: “Twelve mantles thence he took of texture rare; / Twelve single vests : twelve carpets next he chose: / Tunics and finer robes, of each the same: / Of gold ten talents; polish’d tripods two; Four cauldrons, and a cup of rare device ;” — tchrist 1 min ago

Guess Bryant misused English, too.

@tchrist Obviously Homer misused the word.

Or was that Homer?

Jinxxx.

And my connection may drop even sooner, as I am roaming the countryside. Ah, it just dropped. Now I'm back.

@rob Thanks, but I can never log into SE at all.

Ngrams show numerous instances of the phrase "he fell to the ground" and I would doubt that they all refer to falling from the sky. — bib 2 hours ago

facepalm

5:48 PM

@tchrist It's not my phone: this happens all the time on various computers. This is a Galaxy Nexus.

Add Shakespeare, in Cymbeline, Act 1, Scene 6: “Which I, the factor for the rest, have done / In France: 'tis plate of rare device, and jewels / Of rich and exquisite form; their values great;”. Just what you’d expect a guy who didn’t know how to spell his own name! — tchrist 36 secs ago

@simchona.

@Reg I left an answer I think you'll like.

Too late.

:)

Hullo :)

5:55 PM

0

A: Deleting of Xavier's comments

Thank you for your contributions to the site. I am glad that you wish to be a helpful contributor here. You are a very new user, and the fact that you are already a top contributor speaks to your efforts. For that reason, I am glad that you chose to post your question here on the Meta site. It ...

@tchrist I removed it because it turns out it isn't true.

phew. i used up all my delete votes and all my close votes today.

@coleopterist Hi,

@KitFox Exquisitely well done.

bows

@JSBձոգչ That takes some work.

5:56 PM

JSBձոգչ, you've been busy :P

and the top ~20 recently edited posts on the activity page were edited by me

@JSBձոգչ Thank you. I really appreciate it.

whee!

I used up delete votes on SO the other day, but only because I worked very very hard at it. I think I have like 35 of them there.

Maybe 25? Many though.

KitFox: All that electioneering appears to have added even more polish to your diplomatic skills :)

But, I'm certain that Xavier is going to 'precise' you shortly :P

6:03 PM

Being mod is serious business.

@ΜετάEd ?

He can precise me all he wants. It is my job to help.

Roger, Roger.

cornbread ninja

tips hat afternoon, all

Hiya @cornbread.

6:06 PM

Yo

Hi @cornbread!

cornbread ninja

What a reception!

How goes it?

throws flowers

cornbread ninja

gets misty

kisses @cornbread

cornbread ninja

6:07 PM

(^_^ )

Oop! Sorry. Got caught up in the moment.

covers eyes

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax it was on my cheek

yes, that's the ticket

@cornbreadninja Well, I guess that's OK.

cornbread ninja

Have you decided on your forever present? That's a tough one.

6:09 PM

Oh, I think I would like a nice set of pens.

I really enjoy pens, and I take good care of my things.

/me totally misread both those statements.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax hooray! I practiced some Gothic whilst awaiting my sandwich.

I have thank-you cards due.

@Mahnax Dip pens or fountain pens?

@cornbreadninja Oh, how nice!

@coleopterist Wicked. Blame it on the font.

6:10 PM

@tchrist Ooh, I'm not sure. Probably fountain pens, but dip pens are good too.

cornbread ninja

@tchrist I bought my first Brause nib recently. I'd only had Speedballs.

giggles

cornbread ninja

SPEEDBALLS!!!!

@tchrist Quite :)

Oh, have you had any luck with your cert, @tchrist?

cornbread ninja

6:12 PM

Almost bought a Lamy on mah birthday.

lamyusa.com/lamy_mechpencil_L147_pur.php

I like this one.

Mechanical pencils are fantastic.

cornbread ninja

wowsers, that is more than the fount I was going to buy.

Only just.

I'd asked what they had in a broad nib, and they made it sound as though Lamy was my only option.

Sooooo, how 'bout that Xavier?

This is beautiful.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax mmmm, broad.

@cornbreadninja Yeah.

Speaking of mmmm, I'm hungry.

moseys on over to fridge

cornbread ninja

6:19 PM

@Mahnax here's the one I was after.

I found more people misusing English: more Spencer; Shelley. Put them in the rotten-apple basket with Shakespeare and Bryant, foul corrupters of youth. I blame Homer.

3

cornbread ninja

@tchrist D'oh!

@cornbreadninja Nice.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax I'm a fool for blue.

Sweet!

Oh.

The pen is blue.

6:21 PM

@cornbreadninja I prefer silver in a pen, or maybe black.

@Mahnax No, haven't.

@tchrist A right shame that is.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox you don't have to work blue to get a laugh!

lamyusa.com/lamy_fountain_L68_studio.php

This one is nice too.

A wee bit on the pricey side, though.

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax drool

I want to cut a bamboo pen.

6:23 PM

lamyusa.com/lamy_fountain_L65_studio.php

They're all so pretty!

cornbread ninja

@Mahnax oh, that's more like it. Probably grippier, too.

This reminds me that I need to find where I put dad's Parkers.

Hmm.

I wonder if the egg salad is all gone.

"Say what you want about Icarus, but he was making an innovative use of wax and feathers." — David Weigel, Prog Spring.

RegDwight АΑA

Bah. TPTB are in our proposals closing questions.

And eating roses?

RegDwight АΑA

6:28 PM

Interesting that they don't close those exact same questions here on ELU.

Huh.

How is it NARQ?

Did you see the answer I left @Reg?

RegDwight АΑA

They also deleted my pledge to use votes with care.

And I only added it there after having seen it on a bunch of other proposals.

@KitFox on the X question? No, I'm only just in. Lemme see.

I hate when they muck around like that.

RegDwight АΑA

cornbread ninja

6:32 PM

I like the way the review/tools look now, and I couldn't find a decent reason on MSO, so where has my Copy Editor badge progress gone?

@RegDwightАΑA nice.

@simchona !

Also, TPTB owe me a 9th gold badge. So cough it up, byatches.

@RegDwightАΑA Alain amuses.

RegDwight АΑA

@KitFox very good and better than anything I would have produced. Should I buy a hat one day, remind me to tip it.

Now I have to vote to reopen the i.e. vs. e.g. question. This aggression will not stand.

@RegDwightАΑA I figured I would turn it to our advantage.

RegDwight АΑA

6:39 PM

Yeah. Good strategy, but I often forget.

I want a platinum badge for an answer scoring 500.

@RegDwightАΑA Well, I'm new, so...

Or maybe mithril.

I rather like mithril.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist first get to 499, then we'll talk.

The top answer right now is at some 150 somethings.

@RegDwightАΑA Well now that you’re home, you might even be able to read it.

6:40 PM

@tchrist Yes, mithril is nice.

521

A: Why does modern Perl avoid UTF-8 by default?

: ℞: Set your PERL_UNICODE envariable to AS. This makes all Perl scripts decode @ARGV as UTF‑8 strings, and sets the encoding of all three of stdin, stdout, and stderr to UTF‑8. Both these are global effects, not lexical ones. At the top of your source file (progra...

But this piece-of-shite chat crapulence can’t.

…wow.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist that's not 499. Try again.

Wait, I could help get it there...

cornbread ninja

@KitFox solamente un poco.

RegDwight АΑA

6:42 PM

user image

It reads rather better in Opera than in Safari. I know not why.

RegDwight АΑA

I'm no longer twelve and what is this?

user image

You can still read it in Safari — it has all the glyphs — but it linewraps suboptimally.

@Mahnax Thank you!

bows

RegDwight АΑA

6:43 PM

@Mahnax well now I know why people upvote it. Nobody reads past the first line.

@RegDwightАΑA But it appears to be a really great answer, too!

RegDwight АΑA

I dunno, I didn't read past the first line, and I had no first line to read.

@tchrist How long did it take to write that?

@RegDwightАΑA Since you insist...

425

A: regular expression pattern not matching anywhere in string

Oh Yes You Can Use Regexes to Parse HTML! ⁠ For the task you are attempting, regexes are perfectly fine! It is true that most people underestimate the difficulty of parsing HTML with regular expressions and therefore do so poorly. But this is not some fundamental flaw related to computationa...

RegDwight АΑA

What's the second and the third insert? I can read the fourth and last one, the one on its head.

6:45 PM

It’ll get there.

great bloody buddha on a stick, that's a long answer

@JSBձոգչ Polonius was a poser.

RegDwight АΑA

@JSBձոգչ I actually thought that the characters I wasn't able to see were some kind of TLDR.

Well, they are in a way.

user image

@tchrist That's just really, really ugly.

6:46 PM

user image

user image

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist not bad. Still not quite bobince.

however, i'm glad to see that somebody else here is a perl aficionado

@JSBձոգչ TL;DR. I had to use regex to parse my way through it.

I can understand giving an example using poorly supported codepoints. But I can't understand using poorly supported codepoints as section headers, etc.

@Mahnax ♬ Happy happy, joy joy! ♬

6:46 PM

user image

@JSBձոգչ Since Perl 4.

fails to retain useless information

user image

heh. i'm not quite that old.

RegDwight АΑA

@Mahnax ah thank you. Now I've seen all I need.

cornbread ninja

6:47 PM

@tchrist teaches your grandmother to suck eggs

And that's the game, folks.

I LOVE that double oblique hyphen!!

RegDwight АΑA

That's the only one that displays for me.

I mean. Wait. I can see other hyphens as well.

There's also unicodey things strewn throughout, but I'm not about to screenshot all of those.

RegDwight АΑA

That's not how I meant it.

6:48 PM

 ⸗  2E17        DOUBLE OBLIQUE HYPHEN
        * used in ancient Near-Eastern linguistics
        * hyphen in Fraktur text uses 002D or 2010, but with a '2E17' glyph in Fraktur fonts
        x (hyphen-minus - 002D)
        x (equals sign - 003D)
        x (hyphen - 2010)

RegDwight АΑA

Near-Eastern, huh.

I ain't dun no ancient Near-East linguistics but I know it.

Isn’t Apple’s PILE OF POO glyph cyool?

@RegDwightАΑA Beats me.

@tchrist They are so great.

💩

@Mahnax That doesn’t look like the one in your screen shot.

That one looks like the reference glyph.

@tchrist No?

RegDwight АΑA

6:50 PM

Looks like wasted space to me.

The other one has little eyes looking out at you. Check your screen shot above.

Looks the same to me.

Why does a PILE OF POO have a smiley superimposed on it? The mouth-on-shit part of if is . . . icky.

Oh, right. Duh.

user image

It’s because you sent bits not codepoints with the screenshot.

Er.

6:52 PM

Oh OK.

Pix not codepoints.

But isn’t he a cute little pile of it?

Oh yes. Simply adorable.

Apply: Their shit may not not stink, but it sure grins!

And now I must away. Farewell.

Adieu.

cornbread ninja

6:54 PM

@Mahnax auf wiedersehn, goodbye-eye

@Mahnax This is why I am so happy I have figured out how to do private stylesheets in Chrome.

Security by obscurity.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist now that answer I did read. $votes++ would read again.

@RegDwightАΑA Glad you approve.

Just because stupid people can’t parse HTML with regexes doesn’t mean nobody can.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist yeah I never upvoted bobince's answer by way of full disclosure.

I never did either.

I even flag comments that use it.

BTW, just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

I just take exception at people telling me what I “can’t” do. They do not know me.

RegDwight АΑA

6:58 PM

I can barely spell !# / and I parse HTML with regular expressions. As you say, it's all down to the task at hand and your level of comfort. As with any job anywhere ever, really.

I wonder if I should be concerned that my A/C is blowing air on me that smells of antifreeze.

It’s trying to keep you from getting too cold.

RegDwight АΑA

What do you expect anyway, that it smells of daffodils?

If we’re doing fun ones, this one is fun, too:

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