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12:02 AM
@Robusto Hey look, SE is doing full casefolding on its searches! See how it matches the "ss" version?
Feb 10 '11 at 14:45, by Kosmonaut
I actually find it funny because the service at stores is usually not as over-the-top friendly like it is in the US, so it feels colder. But then when I am leaving, suddenly everyone says "tschüss" and I think "awww... you really do like me after all!"
But the search was for tschüß. This is correct, but frustratingly uncommon.
 
Nice.
 
12:18 AM
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Q: What purpose does an '-o' serve?

KitFoxI have been singing a lot of children's songs lately, and this afternoon in the car I noticed three songs that add an -o to the end of words: "He had many a mile to go that night before he reached the town-o" from The Fox (no relation) "A rare bog, the rattlin' bog, the bog down in the vall...

Feel free to edit and possibly retag. I am terrible at tagging.
 
changes an to a
 
12:37 AM
@KitFox Did you read the OED entry first before posting? You list the same examples as they do, in the same order.
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A: What purpose does an '-o' serve?

tchristI don’t think anybody quite knows. The OED gives four distinct types of these formations. They are wondering whether it has something to do with the O interjection with some reinforcement from similar words. They also note that it is nowhere more common than in Australia. The four different t...

Or perhaps you read something somewhere that had itself already cribbed from the OED; this happens a fair amount.
In particular boyo, bucko, kiddo.
 
 
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2:20 AM
@KitFox D’oh! I forgot to check the OED3. They now seem much more certain of the origins than in OED2. No more citations, but lots of very fine print discussion.
 
Hello!
I am logged in my mobile!
 
Scarrry!
Best stick to 1960s-style text then.
 
How does one do that?
I am lying in bed in the country house.
 
Only ASCII.
So, you are in a city house then?
Or you aren’t in bed?
 
@RegDwightАΑA and if you call it a font instead of a typeface... :P
 
2:24 AM
Haha.
 
considers how to break through the Liar’s Paradox
 
I always speak the truth.
 
Where did the merry-go-round go?
0
A: What does "go pop" mean?

JAM"Go pop" could mean many different things. We'd really need a little more context. However, it sounds like the speaker is on a bus or commuter train and is anxious to get to the door through the crowd, or else s/he may "go pop." It probably means something like "explode" or "give out" but it is c...

He looks too much like me.
 
There's the truth paradox for you.
 
@KitFox Day-o a children's song!
 
2:26 AM
You’re lying in a bed of soft needles in the forest dark.
 
There I would be lying, yes.
 
What doesn’t this chat play ᴀᴅᴠᴇɴᴛᴜʀᴇ?
 
I see N R in small capitals.
 
ADVENTURE.
Colossal Cave Adventure (also known as ADVENT, Colossal Cave, or Adventure) gave its name to the computer adventure game genre. It was originally designed by Will Crowther, a programmer and caving enthusiast who based the layout on part of the Mammoth Cave system in Kentucky. The Colossal Cave subnetwork has many entrances, one of which is known as Bedquilt. Crowther reproduced portions of the real cave so faithfully that cavers who have played the game can easily navigate through familiar sections in the Bedquilt region on their first visit. History Will Crowther was a programmer a...
 
@tchrist and no bosses.
 
2:29 AM
Rubbing the electric lamp is not particularly rewarding. Anyway, nothing exciting happens
 
That sounds familiar.
 
I never get anything outta mine, either.
@cornbreadninja Some versions of Rogue had fancy-pants bits at the lowest levels.
Rogue is a dungeon crawling video game first developed by Michael Toy and Glenn Wichman around 1980. It was a favorite on college Unix systems in the early to mid-1980s, in part due to the procedural generation of game content. Rogue popularized dungeon crawling as a video game trope, leading others to develop a class of derivatives known collectively as "roguelikes". For example, it directly inspired Hack, which in turn led to NetHack. Roguelikes have since influenced commercial games outside the genre, such as Diablo. Gameplay In Rogue, the player assumes the typical role of an adventur...
 
I have played Multi-dimensional Thief.
 
It uses vi movement commands.
 
grooves to Day-o
@tchrist sweet
 
2:31 AM
Fun text adventure.
 
Adventure was a text game. Rogue was a video game for vt100s.
The zenith was probably NetHack.
NetHack is a single-player roguelike video game originally released in 1987. It is a descendant of an earlier game called Hack (), which is a descendant of Rogue (). NetHack is licensed under the NetHack General Public License. The "net" element references the fact that its development was coordinated through Usenet, even before the internet existed in its present form. The "hack" element refers to the game it was based on, Hack. The player takes the part of a dungeon-delving character in search of the Amulet of Yendor. __TOC__ # History of NetHack # Source: http://www.spod-central.org/~...
 
Moving was just nesw.
 
never eat soggy waffles.
 
That makes no sense for moving!
You need to have a group of keys where you have the left key go left, the right key go right, etc. The one to the up-left of the base set goes up-left, etc.
 
@tchrist not moving and also eating Cheetos, that's fer sure.
 
2:34 AM
And yet these are traditional. U and d also worked in the right situations.
 
Well, yes.
What is traditional? news? Naw.
 
You needed to press enter after each key anyway.
 
That's horrid.
That's not a video game, it's a text game.
Which can still be fun.
To win the game, the player must retrieve the Amulet of Yendor, found at the lowest level of the dungeon, and offer it to his or her deity. Successful completion of this task rewards the player with the gift of immortality, and the player is said to "ascend", attaining the status of demigod. In addition, a number of sub-quests must be completed, including one class-specific quest.

The player's character is, unless manually specified otherwise, accompanied by a pet animal, typically a kitten or little dog, although knights begin with a saddled pony.[11] Pets grow from fighting, and they can
 
Wasd doesn't make sense in a text adventure.
 
You mustn’t kick your dog.
Or eat him.
 
2:38 AM
Of course it is a text game. What else could a text adventure be?
But it is bed time. Literally.
 
Indeed.
 
And battery is at 4%...
 
Shut down!!
Plug in!
 
So I bid thee good night!
 
Thanks. Hopefully to bed soon myself.
 
3:04 AM
english.stackexchange.com/questions/78296/… @tchrist with a very unpleasin' sneezin' and wheezin', the calliope crashed to the ground
 
 
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9:32 AM
Marnan!
 
10:18 AM
@MattЭллен Good morn to you, sir.
 
Hello, @Mahnax. Be ye up early?
 
@MattЭллен Nay, late.
'Tis 3:21 here.
(I am in a different time zone than usual)
 
I see. You seem to be catching our Cerberus's condition
@Mahnax Oh! still a Canadian one?
 
@MattЭллен Yep. British Columbia now.
So one hour earlier than usual.
 
Right, right. By a lake, yes?
 
10:24 AM
Yeah.
I have a picture, if you'd like.
It's fairly nice, I'd say.
The lake, not the photography, necessarily.
 
Yes, that would be good :)
 
Oh, did it not upload?
frowns
 
not so far
maybe it's waiting. it will pounce later
 
No dice thus far.
I'm heading to imgur.
 
rightoh
please close this. i think it is better asked on german.se — Johannes Schaub 42 secs ago
no sh*t!
 
10:27 AM
Wow.
 
alas I'm out of close votes for the day
 
downvotes, closevotes
There we go.
I wanted some undergrowth in the foreground for effect.
 
very picturesque
 
Indeed.
 
looks like a good lake for boating
 
10:29 AM
What the heck made him think that English.SE was a good place to ask that?
 
I know!
 
@MattЭллен There are boats, yes.
 
how did it occur to him that a question about German is a question about English?
it boggles the mind
 
Something got messed up here.
 
10:31 AM
I should sleep. Bye!
 
good night :)
 
HELLo
@MattЭллен why does he sleep now?
 
@Noah where he is it's 3am
well, just gone 3:30am in fact
 
okay
@MattЭллен never mind... was just curious...
 
11:09 AM
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A: Should 'many' or 'any' be used in a comparative degree sentence?

NewbieMany is a countable noun. If you're referring to more admired than many other singers, it refers to a countable amount of people whom the singer is much more admired to. Any is an uncountable noun. If you're referring to more admired than any other singers. it refers to an uncountable noun where...

> Many is a countable noun.
And someone upvoted this. Face meet palm.
 
I have some manys for your delectation
 
I wonder how you would have to reword that for any, which is an uncountable noun, as we know.
 
yor rite! many is a countable adjective. How could I be so silly?
 
@RegDwightАΑA I spilt any on the floor
@RegDwightАΑA indeed.
 
11:15 AM
Any winehouse?
 
pretty much
 
11:38 AM
I'm at 12,999.
 
I would be at 35,999 if not for all the downvoteworthy stuff.
 
3
Q: Does "shouldn't" always take "should" as a question tag?

manjariWhich usage is correct? You shouldn't take sugar, should you? You shouldn't take sugar, will you?

Isn't this a dupe?
 
Didn't ring a bell with me. Let's see...
 
Huh. Maybe not. I thought I remembered something with shouldn't/should v shouldn't/will.
Maybe it wasn't about tags though.
Eh, never mind. I can't find it if it is.
 
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Q: Has been procured

VinodThe program must check the latest date in which data has been procured and then update the database accordingly. Is the above sentence correct.

ELU Lite
 
12:01 PM
Hey @Rob.
tchrist wrote a book for me.
FF chimed in with his odd two cents as well.
Hey @Reg, you think I ought to convert this to a comment?
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A: What purpose does an '-o' serve?

Barry BrownI still use the expression 'Good-oh!' to express approval or agreement, I suspect not many do nowadays. I always felt that the '-o' added to words, especially in songs, was the same as '-oh'. But it's only a feeling.

It's sort of an answer, but not really.
 
Oh! whiskey in the jar-o is another example
 
Jar-o? I've never heard it that way.
 
Yeah Matt only just invented it.
 
Ohai!
 
Have you listened to the metallica version?
 
12:09 PM
Um. No.
 
Okay Metallica have only just invented it.
 
it's terrible, but they definitely sing jar-o
 
And yeah, why the hell would anyone listen to them.
 
if you can bear to sit though it
 
> This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Because we all know that Metallica are the ones who started this whole thing in the first place.
 
12:12 PM
bastards!
how aboot this one, by thin lizzy?
I don't know if they sing jar-o
 
Hmm.
Yeah, he sings jar-o.
But in general, ick. I do not like that version.
Whiskey in the Jar isn't a ballad.
 
I see. I heard the Metallica version first and instantly hated it. I guess the Thin Lizzy version is just as terrible
 
This is funny if you know the Dropkick Murphys.
 
I've heard of them
 
It's just so obviously The Dubliners, just like the title says.
I don't know why you'd stick the Murphys on there.
 
12:17 PM
lol
 
We are big fans of our Irish boys around here.
I mean, not that Boston is well-known for its Irish population or anything.
giggles
 
Boston, no, that's in Lincolnshire. Too small to be known for an Irish population. :Þ
 
They use riffs from this song in a lot of the sports promos.
Fans sing along.
@KitFox: I'm not sure I've ever heard town-o or valley-o, and day-o only suggests The Banana Boat Song to me, so I can't really say whether the suffix itself means anything at all in those cases. But yes - I'd still consider them "diminutive" forms, even if I can't say what purpose the suffix might serve in those specific cases. There is a reasonably consistent difference if you say "Good-o!" instead of "Good!", or refer to, say, Robusto here as "Robbo", is all I know. — FumbleFingers 15 mins ago
sighs
"I haven't ever heard of those things you put in your actual question. And the one that I might have heard of only suggests the thing you said it was to me."
 
@kit keeping an eye on this.
 
Mustafina, away with this pretense! You cannot speak, but kiss me in my husband's absence!
 
12:30 PM
@KitFox Hah, cool. And it looks like my initial thought, about adding emphasis, was correct.
13 hours ago, by Robusto
Here's a guess: It might have originated with "Ho!" — an interjection added for emphasis. Or even "Oh!"
 
Yeah, it was a good thought.
I thought so at the time even.
 
That's how I roll.
 
Did you see FF's comment (a couple lines up)?
I thought his reference to you was amusing.
 
Green grow the rushes oh
Green grow the rushes oh
The sweetest hours that e're I spent
Were spent among the lassies oh
— Robert Burns
 
Oh dear. Now I am hearing it everywhere.
 
12:32 PM
@Robusto funny cos it's true
 
@KitFox Well, FF ignored the obvious fact that my screen name comes with an -o built right in. All the work has been done for you.
 
Hey, do you know what "the necessary retention of ME. final -e where wanted for measure" means? What's an example of ME. final -e?
 
@Robusto you're already diminutive enough
 
Note that in the Burns stanza it provides the important fourth stress, giving the line a masculine ending and forcing a rhyme even if none exists.
@MattЭллен Stop trying to cheer me up.
 
12:36 PM
@KitFox sceoppa > shoppe > shop
 
Oh damn. Ninja'd by @tchrist.
 
bows
It’s my way of goodmorninging you.
> To think that I should have lived to be goodmorninged by Belladonna Took's son, as if I was selling buttons at the door!
 
0===D
()
0===D
zombie in mittens
 
Actually I was composing a comment, but ran out of space.
 
Haha.
 
12:38 PM
Anyhow. I gotta shower, and then go for a walk.
 
@RegDwightАΑA That’s what Fermat said.
 
Very true.
Except he didn't post on ELU instead.
 
@tchrist And may I lift this to exemplify his answer?
 
Actually that would be quite a sensation. "After OVER 9000 years, Fermat's very own proof has been discovered on an up and coming site devoted to Strunk and White", the media would report.
 
@KitFox I don’t care to speak ill of him. I will point out that his answer only covers a subset of the three etymological origins for the four senses.
 
12:41 PM
AFK
 
But the most pertinent? Or do you really feel it is a strong deficiency?
 
I’m too pre-caffeinated for strong feelings still.
 
Well, I shall think on it longer.
 
His answer could use some formatting help if you plan to elevate it.
 
Maybe I will accept FF's answer instead.
Just to frig with people.
 
12:43 PM
That would do that.
 
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Q: Is it correct to write "backup" as a noun?

hkBattousaiI was about to create a folder to keep an archive my important files in. This question got stuck in my mind while renaming it. How do I have to rename that folder? Back up Backup Back-up Are all phrases correct?

Dupe.
Two words verb, one word noun. Been there, done that.
 
Stoney’s answer also references mine, for saying "this is the rest of it".
nearby
(JL)
setup
 
waves hand Yes, yes, but you hardly need the reps.
 
Are answers to be judged by the reputation of the submitter now?
You may do as you please; after all, FF does.
Can his stand alone without mine?
I can’t really be expected to give a disinterested opinion.
But I really don’t care much.
 
You are a funny one. I will leave it for now. Let's see what sort of reps accumulate.
 
12:51 PM
@KitFox if you really want to frig with people, close the question as a duplicate of an "a vs an" question
 
Oh @Matt, you are devious.
 
then reopen it and chastise people for closing frivolously
 
guffaws
Then randomly suspend three people for conspiring to do weird stuff to my question.
 
:D yes! that's the spirit
@KitFox this is possibly because I am contemplating a bug that has appeared despite my not changing anything. To understand the bug I must become like the bug.
 
1:09 PM
I’m afraid I’ve just sonned Andrew Leach.
And Gollummed Bob.
And goodmorninged @Reg.
Thank you, Professor T.
 
oh. right. I just remove the file and add it back. that will solve the problem.
 
Cummoting. Laters.
 
From programming there’s anding together two integers, or foreaching across an array, or withing something. Then of course there’s thouing someone instead of youing or yousing or yalling them.
 
for administrative purposes I'm filing ewes
 
1:22 PM
Naah.
 
Horton Hears a Who > Nortonn Nears Anew
 
Jobbik jeers a Jew
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 wow. that's got to mess your life up, finding out your are the thing you hate the most. It feels like karmic balance is being restored, though.
 
Ewes should be filled in the autumn that they might lamb in the spring.
@MattЭллен Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
 
quite :)
 
1:29 PM
Maybe he’s also a homophobic closeted queer.
Bet that’d toast his shorts.
 
they're quite common in homophobia circles, so I hear.
 
Never having been homophobic, I cannot say. :)
Although those first group showers after gym class in the 4th grade were pretty scary.
 
@MattЭллен I wonder if there's any chance that he might learn from this experience and become a force for good.
 
possibly.
 
Once upon a time, on the road to Damascus . . .
 
1:57 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That also happened in the U.S. some years ago. The head of the Nazi party here was found out to have Jewish ancestry.
 
@Robusto Man, those Europeans, always copying the US's innovations!
 
But I have to say, when you see pictures of these latter-day Heil Hitler-ing, Nazi-flag-waving goose-steppers, they kinda look like members of an inferior race, don't they? I mean, come on.
 
Inferior something anyway
 
2:18 PM
BTW, I was just reading someone's contention that Neanderthal's demise may have been due to their lack of language facility. Homo sapiens' smaller jaw facilitated speech (although leading to problems like sleep apnea, etc.), thus leading to an extreme evolutionary advantage.
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Q: What type of verb is "do"?

dotancohenI'm going through some code with classes named like: clean_Cache purge_Stage do_Keywords The particular file do_Keywords is a complete mess and maybe if I knew what it was supposed to do then I could make sense of it. The dev who wrote it and used the verb "do" is absent, probably from someon...

Is this about class-naming? Or is it legit?
I'm undecided.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The article says he is planning a pilgrimage to Auschwitz. So maybe.
 
@Robusto I lean toward legit. It's sort of a class name, but he's looking for a general term to describe nondescript verbs. Well, assuming the answer exists and it is a real distinction, I'd say it is OK.
 
Crap, I gotta reboot my system for updates. Orders from on high. I haven't rebooted since before my surgery, so who knows what will happen?
 
@tchrist mmm...toast.
 
In linguistics, a light verb is a verb that has little semantic content of its own and it therefore forms a predicate with some additional expression, which is usually a noun. Common verbs in English that can function as light verbs are do, give, have, make, take, etc. Other names for light verb include vector verb, explicator verb, thin verb or semantically weak verb (a semantically weak verb is not to be confused with a weak verb of the Germanic weak inflection, however). While light verbs are similar to auxiliary verbs regarding their meaning contribution to the clauses in which they app...
 
2:29 PM
@ΜετάEd Get it! Get it!
Ah, new toys!
 
@KitFox If you insist.
 
claps hands
@ΜετάEd Puh-lease?
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Q: "Please" and comma

algotDo I have to use comma after "please" in the beginning of the sentence? E.g. "Please, specify the reason." or "Please specify the reason."

dupe of
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Q: In what cases should I use a comma after "please"?

remAs far as I can see from different texts, there seems to be no strict rule about putting comma after "Please" when it is used as an introduction to a request. Am I right? In what cases using comma after "please" would be correct or even compulsory? What if "please" is put in the end of such sent...

any closers here?
 
nope. I'm all out
 
Really?
Already?
 
yeah, I have to wait 9 more hours
 
2:39 PM
Hmm.
 
I shot my load when I got in this morning
 
Hahaha.
OK. I closed it unilaterally.
 
Was the site content that bad this morning?
 
oh, no more than usual, but I was trying out the new beta review page
it makes closing a breeze
 
2:40 PM
geez Kit you didn't even give me a chance to vote! Your trigger finger must be really itchy! :)
 
Oh yeah. I forget to look now that I have the other menu.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sawree. I got fidgety.
You want me to undo it so you can get a close vote in?
 
hehe no, it's ok
 
Oh frig, I forgot I was in the middle of writing an email!
And opening my new toys!
 
new toys, eh?
 
@KitFox At your service, mistress.
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A: What type of verb is "do"?

ΜετάEdAccording to Wikipedia, do in your example can be properly described as a light verb. A light verb is a verb that has little semantic content of its own and it therefore forms a predicate with some additional expression, which is usually a noun. Example: I do the house cleaning. (light ...

 
2:45 PM
@MattЭллен there's all sorts of stories and movies with this jewish nazi theme:
(a nazi finding out he's jewish, a jew who masquerades in the nazi party)
There was a Russian film from the early nineties, that was about a Russian skin head who meets his dad and finds out they're jewish.
 
@ΜετάEd Already collecting the goodies. Thank you much.
 
@Mitch I see
 
Reminds me of American History X. shudders
 
the first time Ed Norton hulks out
 
Mmm. Ed Norton.
 
2:52 PM
:D
 
daydreams
shudders
Gah, that movie was brutal.
 
in American History X, it is not totally ironic, just the main character learns that everybody is a jerk.
 
Yes.
But Nazis and anti-Semitism.
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Q: term for disrespecting people with lower social condition

Moataz ElmasryWhat is it called if I have a good social condition (education, money, etc.) and I disrespect people with a lower condition?

I cleaned it up, but.
 
being mean
predjudice
patronising
it's not really a question in my mind
 
2:57 PM
I was thinking "slight". Not sure if this fits the connotations, though.
 
could do
 
It is very NARQ. I left a comment.
 
me too
 
...and three answers already.
 

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