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2:00 AM
Lol yeah @Brody
 
i need to update this picture
looks like i just killed 25 people
 
@BalarkaSen It gives a proof sketch first. I like. Preferable to Rudin's style.
 
@BalarkaSen There's something nontrivial in proving that the foliated neighborhood is given by that particular holonomy.
 
Calc on Manifolds is pretty decent except his proof of inverse function theorem is stupid
 
I think Rudin's proof also uses convolution — maybe the paper's proof is going to be the same proof
 
2:01 AM
Dunno about his multivariable or diff. geom. stuff, though I might get the 5 volume set eventually
 
@Brody I haven't done any rigorous calculus though
 
If you see "compactness" when reading a proof of the inverse function theorem you should run
 
the most rigorous i've done is like
basic complex analysis
 
@Daminark Ah, yes. You're speaking of the solution to, eg, $\Delta f = 0$ with boundary conditions?
 
but as far as calculus went, it was exactly that: calculations.
 
2:02 AM
Uh, that's not how I remember it
I thought that was Laplace's equation
 
is the bottom half of zach's picture a gray box to anyone else
 
It is to me
 
Which also came up when we were proving that conformal mappings on $\mathbb{R}^2$ satisfy the Cauchy-Riemann equations
 
thank god it's not just me
 
2:02 AM
@Daminark Ah, I forget names. Yes, that's it
 
Yeah I just never asked
 
Yeah same
I mean
His chat picture on the side of the screen isn't
 
But when I'm trying to @hisname, it is gray
 
@Daminark Solutions to Laplace's equation are fixed points of the heat equation flow, and you can come to solutions by picking something with given boundary conditions and performing the heat flow.
(When all of the latter is well-behaved.)
 
2:03 AM
yeah @Akiva?
 
Ah, that's neat @Mike
 
oh
 
There's a very illuminating solution to Laplace's equation using the Poission kernel.
 
What did you do to your picture
 
gray box, it's been like that
:/
like, ever since i added this picture
let me fix this with an updated picture
i just got a haircut though and i look ugly so
don't bully me for it /s
 
2:04 AM
Wow, really, @ZachHauk? You thought it wasn't worth a response.
Wow.
You could have just not said anything then.
 
what?
 
At some point I should probably figure out what differential equations are
Like we did some in class
Last quarter they arose randomly, this quarter we did a bit of stuff with ODEs
 
oh
why would i make it an answer if it's just a comment?
 
@MikeMiller This is essentially the classification of foliated bundles through their holonomy, right?
 
I didn't want you to answer or comment about anything. I wasn't even necessarily talking to you.
 
2:06 AM
Picard-style stuff and Lyapunov stability
 
Conjugate holonomy homomorphisms <=> Isomorphic foliated bundles
 
umm
ok lol
 
Which I absorbed badly
 
Okay, McLovin.
 
Can anyone look at my question I've been really struggling with this problem and I'm not sure my attempt is correct: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2153941/…
 
2:07 AM
@BalarkaSen If a codim 1 foliation has compact leaves, why do the germs of the holonomies have to be $x \mapsto \pm x$?
 
...what just happened
 
what @Akiva?
 
@ZachHauk Oh yeah, then Spivak might be a good primer
 
@Brody i'm not even sure of the epsilon delta definition of limit
 
@Jessy, are you alright
 
2:08 AM
to be honest :P
 
@ZachHauk as far as the univariate calculus, I may have been in your position back in 9th grade :P
 
@Brody i'm not even interested in analysis that much
which is why i kind of jumped over the whole real analysis thing
 
Lol, so I find that in analysis, the results are cool while the problems just kind of bore me somehow
 
did a ton of computational stuff, but I waited until graduating high school before getting a real textbook
 
@MikeMiller Hmm, so you're asking, why are the germinal holonomy either conjugate to germ of the identity or the antipodal map? I guess I haven't worked that out.
 
2:10 AM
Like oh, can we pass to a subsequence here? What do we make $\epsilon$ into there?
 
@BalarkaSen I'm not even saying conjugate. I'm saying equal to. (Though those are in the center, so that's the same.)
 
The concepts are nice but the proofs feel like they're more bookkeeping than anything else, which I'm not terribly fond of
But it's important to know
I'd say that it's best for you to not do too much point-set topology until you get analysis
You can definitely learn the material, it's very standalone
 
you're talking to me, right?
 
Oh yeah @Zach
 
alright, glad im not going crazy
 
2:12 AM
Why are we talking more about textbooks and pedagogy and about learning math than talking about math?
 
But yeah basically, the thing about topology is that your normal Euclidean spaces are kinda clean in some ways
 
@BalarkaSen $2+2 = 4$
 
Metric spaces are Hausdorff, it's T-2, second countable, everything you want it to be
Wait
It = Euclidean
 
Hausdorff is like
when there exists 2 neighborhoods of a point
 
2:14 AM
@BalarkaSen You should answer my question.
 
Sorry my ability to form thoughts is degenerating fast.
 
and there always exists a neighborhood of that point who is a subset of the intersection of those 2 neighborhoods?
 
@MikeMiller Okay if you are invoking Reeb that's fine. I guess I want to understand why that theorem is true.
 
@MikeMiller I'm thinking about it. Exactly equal to sounds a little implausible to my ears.
 
Uh, no, Hausdorff means that if $x\ne y$, there exists neighborhoods $O_x$ and $O_y$ such that $O_x \cap O_y = \emptyset$
 
2:15 AM
oh
same thing /s
 
@PVAL-inactive Do you believe the same thing for flat $G$-bundles?
 
what does Hausdorff really tell us about a topology?
besides that jumble of words and symbols above
 
That it's nice.
 
I think the biggest important thing about Hausdorff is that it gets you unique limits
If we want to go really crazy, we can talk about a sequence in the trivial topology
 
also
a limit point is where
 
2:17 AM
Well, it converges to everything since there's only one non-empty open set
 
@MikeMiller I don't remember those words well enough.
 
@ZachHauk He'll take you from $\varepsilon$-$\delta$ limits to integration in finite terms, even covering a few of the same objects and definitions from real analysis but in more casual tone oc.
 
any open set of the limit point
contains some other point?
 
Though you often talk about these things called nets in general topological spaces for whatever reason, point is, Hausdorff spaces have enough resolution that a sequence has a unique limit
Well, limit point is defined in terms of a given set, to be precise, but yeah
 
@PVAL-inactive Look at the proof of the fact for flat G-bundles in Morita's geometry of characteristic classes. It's short and intuitive. The point is that you can define a map from the G-bundle determined by the holonomy representation as $\tilde M \times_{\pi_1} G$ to your bundle by picking a basepoint and doing parallel transport
(Then the flatness in the differential geometric sense is what implies that this map is well-defined; homotopic paths induce the same parallel transport.)
 
2:19 AM
Apostol might perhaps also knock your interest, but I don't have any experience with that text @Zach
 
:P
didn't spivak post a paper
about something with the number 6 in it
 
@Brody I heard that reading Apostol is like reading Dummit and Foote
 
@ZachHauk Consider the cofinite topology on $\Bbb Z$. That is, the open sets are the ones whose complements are finite (also the empty set is open 'cause it has to be)
 
@MikeMiller So is the flatness condition the thing that destroys this in higher dimension>
 
Meaning, licking dry sand after having had no water for 3 days
 
2:20 AM
Is the induced normal bundle on the leaf no longer flat?
 
Then, in a sense, $1000000$ is "really close to" $0$, since nearly every reasonable open set containing $0$ also contains $1000000$.
 
(Really guys don't go for Dummit and Foote for algebra, I tried reading that for group theory and while it's well explained it takes f o r e v e r)
 
(I'm being really handwavy here.)
 
@Daminark oh, it's dry?
 
$1000000$ is also really close to $1$.
 
2:21 AM
You convince yourself that foliated bundles over compact manifolds are the smooth analogue of flat G-bundles, a nbhd of the zero section of the normal bundle is a foliated bundle, determined by its holonomy, blah blah blah.
 
So $1000000$ is "really close" to two different points at the same time.
 
@PVAL-inactive What do you mean destroys this in higher dimension? I don't think I agree it gets destroyed.
 
@Akiva no it's not there's $999,998$ numbers between them. that's a lot! /s
 
@PVAL-inactive The normal bundle is foliated. That means it's flat I believe
 
I think that's essentially the main idea of a Hausdorff space — A space is Hausdorff when you can't have something "really close" to two things at the same time.
 
2:22 AM
Does /s mean sarcasm? @Zach
 
yep
 
Flatness here is not meant in any literal sense. I'm analogizing foliated things to flat G-things.
 
Or joking
 
Lmao
 
Maybe I need a dryer text that just hits off the definitions theorems and proofs
 
2:23 AM
@MikeMiller I read a paper (admittedly 70's) saying its open whether codim k foliations of compact manifolds by compact leaves have regular neighborhoods of leaves.
 
Joke 1.1: A group is a groupoid with 1 element
 
So Herstein is currently my book of choice for algebra since it's complete and totally bounded
 
I linked it in chat
I'll see if i can find it
 
I want to check out Aluffi
(The one with the joke you mentioned @Zach)
 
yeah
i read a bit of aluffi
 
2:24 AM
What I've read in it so far is really good
 
@ZachHauk Joke 1.2: Let $\epsilon<0$
 
The problem is I do currently need to get through a lot of algebra within basically the next 4 weeks
If I want to do Babai's group algorithms class
 
@PVAL-inactive Ah that's really interesting. I have this belief that foliations by compact manifolds are fiber bundles over orbifolds but I can only prove it when the foliation is of dimension 1 or codimension 1. I asked Rachel Roberts about it and she was skeptical but didn't know how to prove or disprove it.
 
He said to make sure to see the equivalent definitions of solvable groups, nilpotence of p-groups, and Jordan-Holder
 
2:25 AM
By the way, Zach, there's a way to formalize what I said using some extremely weird objects called ultrafilters. But you really don't need to know anything about those to study topology.
 
It's probably in Epstein's periodic orbits of flow paper as well.
 
Oh dear god that's just overkill
It's like when I proved that $C^1$ functions on a compact set are Lipschitz continuous
 
@Daminark What is?
 
Joke 1.3: Suppose $\mathfrak{J}^{\infty}_{\otimes \Bbb Z}$ is a coprime, compact, Hausdorff bundle whose complement is a co-sheaf of the canonical homomorphism from $\mathfrak{T}_{fin} \oplus V^{\star}$ to $\Bbb Z^4$
 
Doing ultrafilters when you're starting point-set
But yeah I proved it using a result we proved in class which was that if you have a differentiable function $f$ such that $f
Sorry
Such that $f' \in L^p([a,b])$
Then the function is Hölder continuous with exponent $\frac{1}{p}$
 
2:28 AM
Hmm that looks like real math to me, guys
can i post this on Arxiv?
 
No.
 
Suppose $x_{n+1}$ is an element of $x_n$ for all $n\in x_n$
Is this math? ^
 
Lipschitz continuous is when like if you draw a cone shape thing at the point, none of the function is inside that cone thing?
@MikeMiller is going to steal my ideas!!!!!!
 
@MikeMiller Have you talked to B.E. about this?
 
Let $\{{\in}\}\in\{\{{\in}\}\}$
 
2:29 AM
said every pseudomathematician everywhere
Let $\frac{\bar{\xi}}{\xi}} = |1|^1$
 
(Bob Edwards)
 
> Let $\frac{\bar{\Xi}}{\Xi} = |1|^1$
Fixed syntax
 
I knew who you meant and I haven't
 
:/
 
@PVAL-inactive My proof for dimension 1 must be wrong. I've been implicitly assuming that I can get a small saturated neighborhood this whole time.
 
2:30 AM
Suppose ${\in}^{-1}={\ni}$
 
The codim 1 proof is fine.
 
@MikeMiller In the springer link I gave you.
They talk about a theorem of Ehressman
 
@Akiva looks like the cyclic group of order 2
 
Yah I/m reading it.
 
or you are looking at it I guess
 
2:31 AM
with only 2 elements
 
Or an affine space on which the group acts
 
yay
Akiva said another word i understand
> affine
 
My understanding is the dimension 1 case in 3-manifolds is really hard (thats what a long Epstein's annals paper is mainly about)
So I definitely wouldn't believe there being an easy proof of it.
 
$\{I,R_{180}\}$ acts on $\{{\in},{\ni}\}$ by $I{\in}={\in}$, $I{\ni}={\ni}$, $R_{180}{\in}={\ni}$, and $R_{180}{\ni}={\in}$.
@ZachHauk Yeah but I think I might have misused it
 
Sorry, I am confused. How did we establish the existence of a small saturated neighborhood in codim 1 in the first place, then? Don't we need that before we figure out what it is by holonomy
 
2:33 AM
Yah I agree.
 
$I$ is the identity, $R_{180}$ is "rotate the figure 180 degrees"
 
or it could just be $R$
for reflection
 
@BalarkaSen Foliated neighborhoods are easy. But the leaves inside the foliated neighborhood will be smaller than the whole leaves.
 
same thing because they're vertically symmetric
 
@BalarkaSen Somehow this is part of Reeb's work, but I don't know what his argument is.
 
2:34 AM
@MikeMiller Ah, ah, fair enough.
 
guys
 
It'd cut apart some leaves
 
i'm going to need to go to a wrist doctor
 
Once you know the holonomy they're ok.
 
@PVAL-inactive That is very interesting.
 
2:34 AM
Are you sitting on your hands or something
 
Make sure not to cheat the doctor, lest you get put under a wrist
:P
 
with your hands facing the wrong way
 
no
i'm playing rhythm games
and
 
@MikeMiller So what is the argument in codim 1
?
 
well
carpal tunnel
 
2:35 AM
Eek
 
@PVAL-inactive Like they say having good nbhds is the same as having finite holonomy. In dim 1 let's assume for convenience of conversation that the foliation is co-orientable. Then suppose the holonomy of $\gamma$ was nontrivial. Call the germ of a homeo $\Bbb R \to \Bbb R$ it gives $f_\gamma$.
 
I am not sure how to prove $f_\gamma$ is +/- id so you should reveal it anyway.
 
my picture is off center
but whatever
at least there's no gray
so, now i have to get off so that it reloads
 
Pick your favorite number $x$ such that $f_\gamma(x) \neq x$. If $f_\gamma(x) < x$ then (because orientation-preserving homeos are order-preserving) $f^{(n)}_\gamma(x) < f^{(n-1)}_\gamma(x)$, and lifting the loop $\gamma$ to the a path in the foliation, we get a map $[0,\infty) \to M$ with $g(n) = f^{(n)}_\gamma(x)$ with image in a single leaf.
I'm confused, give me a minute. The fact that some subsequence of this accumulates should be the problem but it's not obvious why.
 
So there's something I'm not picking up on all too well
For $1 < p < \infty$
Consider a sequence $x_n$ in $\ell^p$ that converges weakly to $x$
 
2:45 AM
It's a problem because the leaf is transverse to the transversal, right? So nothing can accumulate in their intersection locus
Or I guess you're looking why the contradiction comes in the first place
 
If $\|x_n\|_p \to \|x\|_p$, prove that you actually have strong convergence
What we have at our disposal is that $(\ell^p)^* \simeq \ell^q$ where $\frac{1}{p} + \frac{1}{q} = 1$, and that weak convergence in $\ell^p$ is equivalent to convergence in each component
I'm not yet seeing (even though I feel like I should) how to piece this stuff together
 
Ah yeah. Call that sequence $x_n$. We see that the leaf corresponding to $\lim x_n$ must also be the leaf corresponding to the $x_n$, since some subsequence of $x_n$ converges inside the leaf, and therefore to $\lim x_n$.
But if $x_n > y > x_{n+1}$, then clearly $y_n = f^{(n)}(y)$ also has that same limit.
So the $y_n$ are also in the same leaf as $\lim x_n$. Similarly we see that everything in $[\lim x_n, x]$ is in the leaf, which like Balarka said is nonsense since we chose that to be transverse.
So $f_\gamma = id$. If $f_\gamma(x) > x$ then follow the proof for $f_\gamma^{-1}$.
 
Okay that sounds good.
 
In the non-coorientable case, we see that $f_\gamma$ is order 2 and you can prove that's conjugate to negation.
 
The interesting part to me is still why you have a good neighborhood to begin with.
 
2:56 AM
I was wrong that it has to be literally equal to negation.
 
or
a good neighborhood after proving the holonomy is finite.
 
That's the stupid part though. Exponentiating the normal bundle we get a bundle with a foliation transvere to the fibers (for small enough time). That's all we need.
 
nope
 
As the above after we know the holonomy is finite we literally know it's an I-bundle.
 
Ok I think I believe you
and what goes on in higher dimensions is that the representation into germs of Diffeo(R^k) can be much more complicated.
 
3:00 AM
Yeah
The point in the circle case is literally just to show that a germ of Diff(R^2) with every orbit periodic is finite order.
I had a "proof" of that that didn't work.
 
@ZachHauk Nice haircut
 
To be more precise about the co-oriented case: Not only is every $f_\gamma$ order 2, in fact the image is precisely two elements. For if $f_\gamma$ and $f_\eta$ are both nonzero, $f_\gamma f_\eta = 1$ by the above argument, so $f_\gamma = f_\eta$.
 
@AkivaWeinberger hi
como dice "you should have called me"?
 
Lemme try that again
Somehow in the codim 1 case you can stay very close to the leaf if you go along this transverse germ at any point, just by conjugating this path to other points.
 
@DHMO Me habrías llamado, maybe?
 
3:07 AM
I see
 
@MikeMiller Sorry, I had to step away for a while. Nice argument.
@MikeMiller Right, I had a little trouble believing that
 
eg take $f(x) = -2x$ for $x \geq 0$, $-x/2$ for $x < 0$
 
Ya.
 
i'm back with a new picture!
except there's a shadow in thge bottom of my face
so it looks weird
:/
@Akiva are you joking
hopefully not
 
In general if $g$ is a homeomorphism $[0,\infty)$ to itself, then $f$ is always of the form $f(x) = - g(x)$, for $x \geq 0$ and $g^{-1}(-x)$ for $x < 0$. Set $h(x) = x$ for $x \geq 0$ and $h(x) = g(-x)$ for $x < 0$. Then $hfh^{-1} = -1$.
So the whole thing is conjugate to a rep to $\Bbb Z/2$.
 
3:20 AM
@MikeMiller @BalarkaSen even with a small neighborhood transverse to the fol'n I STILL don't understand why the parallel transport on a leaf (besides the original itself) must stay within that neighborhood.
 
@PVAL-inactive It mustn't. That's why we only have a classification germinally.
You can pick two nbhds, one inside the larger one, so that the transversal parallel transports into the large one.
So you have to define holonomy to be germinal.
 
Even if the leaf is arbitrarily close I don't see why parallel transport stays within any tubular neighborhood
 
parallel transporting a fixed transversal around a fixed loop?
the loop you transport around is compact so you only need to pick finitely many foliated charts
 
Ok youre right.
 
Maybe PVAL is thinking about phenomenon like foliations of the form $xy = c$ and $y = 0$, near a neighborhood of the leaf $y = 0$? If you cut in by a tubular neighborhood you may get leaves like that
 
3:24 AM
I'm thinking about things like the Reeb fol'n
Where if you start moving along a leaf near the torus you can become bounded distance away from it
now matter how close the leaf was
 
leaf and sheaf rhyme
 
@PVAL-inactive Right, but that still has a well-defined germinal holonomy
It's stuff like germ of x mapsto 2x
 
germs?
get rid of them with antibacterial soap
 
(you multiply by 2 if you go the other way)
The point is if you start with a small open subset of the transversal, say (-1, 1), the image lies in a bigger subset (-2, 2) like you say
 
Lol @Zach
 
3:34 AM
lol
 
not all germs are bad
 
hi
I want to check my following argument.
Suppose we consider the ring $R = M_n(B)$ where B is some ring. Then, I claim that there is one to one correspondence between left ideals of R and left ideals of B.
First if J of B is a left ideal. I proved that $J \mapsto M_n(J)$ is an ideal of R.
Conversely if $M_n(I)$ is an ideal of $M_n(B)$ I proved that $M_n(I) \mapsto \{c \in B: c = x_{11} \ for \ X \in M_n(I)\}$ is a left ideal of B.
 
Something
is off
 
@Brody ?
 
Who are you and what have you done with @Zach?
 
3:39 AM
@Adeek so you're using the fact that every ideal of $M_n(B)$ is of the form $M_n(I)$ where $I$ is an ideal of $B$?
 
@arctictern I am proving that.
There is one slight issue I would like to discuss in that just a sec.
 
well, you said "if $M_n(I)$ is an ideal of $M_n(B)$..." - aren't you supposed to say something like "let blah be an ideal of $M_n(B)$" without assuming it's of the form $M_n(I)$?
 
sorry typo
is an left ideal of $M_n(B)$
@arctictern Yeah I was gonna change it in the main proof to something else. But, this is for clarity for now.
 
@ZachHauk I see. It occasionally looks like a 5 o'clock shadow
 
clarity?
 
3:41 AM
I guess yeah your right I should just use another letter
your right @arctictern
 
but on a young face so it's def a bit bizarre haha
 
If $C$ is a left ideal of $M_n(B)$ I proved that $C \mapsto \{c \in B: c = x_{11} \ for \ X \in C \}$ is a left ideal of B.
 
@Brody i think there's a permanent shadow like that all over my face all the time
 
lets denote the first map by $\psi$ and second map by $\phi$. Then, one can easily see that $\phi \circ \psi(J) = J$.
 
yes
 
3:44 AM
Now I want to discuss the issue of $(\psi \circ \phi)(C) = C$.
 
@BalarkaSen oh like actual stubble or skin coloration?
feel like a joke's going over my head
 
If C is a ideal of $M_n(B)$, then we have that $\phi(C)$ is composed of all elements of B for which the elements is the first coordinate $x_{11}$ for some matrix inside C.
 
i think it's just the shadow beneath the eyes over enlarged, @Brody
 
we want to show that $(\psi \circ \phi)(C)$ is actually C. So we do it using two inclusions.
 
i haven't slept like for a year or something
 
3:48 AM
@BalarkaSen I have natural dark circles around (especially under) my eyes that makes me look like a perpetually depressed goth
 
i like that
 
it gets better with age I think
 
Hey all, I have a quick question on a certain proof
 
First of all if we have $M \in (\psi \circ \phi)(C)$. Then M is a matrix whose first coordinate is $m_{ij}$ coordinate is first coordinate of some matrix X inside C. Then, we want to construct a matrix J whose coordinate agrees with M. We can do that by by first multiplying by switching of rows matrix and adjusting that right @arctictern ?
 
Show that a finite union of compact subspaces of a topological space $X$ is compact.
The proof goes as follows : "Let $A_1, \ldots, A_n$ be compact subspaces of a topological space $X$. Let $\mathscr{B}$ be a collection of open sets of $X$ which covers $\displaystyle{\bigcup_{i=1}^n A_i}$. Then, $\mathscr{B}$ covers $A_i$ for each $1 \leq i \leq n$. Since each $A_i$ is compact, we can choose a finite subcover $\mathscr{B}_i$ of $A_i$. But then, $\displaystyle{\bigcup_{i=1}^n \mathscr{B}_i}$ forms a finite subcover of $\displaystyle{\bigcup_{i=1}^n A_i}$"
 
3:49 AM
The reason we can switch rows is because we are multiplying from the right.
 
By I don't see why $\mathcal{B}$ must be open sets of $X$, and not open sets with respect to the subspaces $A_i$
 
at some point i want to look like Sweeney Todd
 
we can just multiply by permutation matrix and just engineering an element M from elements of C.
 
hi Adeek
 
I always imagine Johnny Depp's portrayal @Balarka
 
3:51 AM
@Perturbative: Any open set in $A_i$ is the intersection of an open set in $X$ with $A_i$. It matters not.
 
and @Ted!
 
Hi @Zach
 
hi @ZachHauk @TedShifrin
 
how was your lunch with a friend?
 
Hi @Brody, Karim, tern, Balarka, world.
Lunch was fine, thanks, Zach :)
 
3:51 AM
@Brody That man's so good
 
@TedShifrin I really like commutative Algebra so *** cool.
 
along with Tim Burton
 
Oh lord, and Edward Scissorhands.
 
Algebra + topology is just awesomeness
 
Hi @Ted!
 
3:52 AM
Hopefully will eventually add geometry to my picture
 
One of my favorites, that!
 
If I have region R on r = 2 sin(theta) + 4cos(theta) from [0,2] in the first quadrant, how could i find the volume of the solid generated by revolving R about the y-axis using disks and washers
 
@Adeek No topology in commutative algebra :(
 
@BalarkaSen you should watch the Arrival btw
 
Karim: I'm not paying attention to what you're discussing with tern, but remember that row operations correspond to left multiplication by elementary matrices.
 
3:53 AM
yeah right
@TedShifrin yeah right I guess what I am trying to say just correspond to doing things using elementary matrices
 
I've heard of it and it's in my mental to-watch list
 
yeah right
cool that was a cool problem
 
@Ted I'm going to look over some of those chapter 2 problems and then start where I left off tomorrow. right now i'm going to watch "The Shining" for the first time
 
It's past your bedtime, @Zach :)
 
@BalarkaSen It is so cool I watched it last Friday was amazing.
 
3:55 AM
I do not think there is a correspondence between left ideals of $M_n(B)$ and $B$
 
I am not a big fan of Kubrick
 
there is a correspondence between two-sided ideals
 
@MathisLife: I've never seen a question like that before. Remember that $x=r\cos\theta$.
 
@arctictern oh maybe there is an error somewhere in my argument. I will think about it.
 
@TedShifrin Hmm, I can't see why it doesn't matter. Can you give me a hint, because currently I'm thinking there could be some open cover of some $A_i$ consisting only of open sets with respect to the subspace $A_i$ and in which case some finite subcovering is given by a finite collection of open sets with respect to the subspace $A_i$ (wherein all of those open sets with respect to $A_i$ need not be open with respect to $X$)
 
3:57 AM
@TedShifrin If I turn it into cartesian coordinates, I get (x-2)^2 + (y-1)^2 = 5. I guess it's a little confusing for me because region R is part of a circle, so I'm not sure how to do disk/washer with that
 
@BalarkaSen can you tell me, intuitively, how the complex extension of the real exponential function is periodic?
 
@Adeek for example, $M_n(B)$ has an ideal $\cong B^n$ consisting of matrices with the last $n-1$ columns zeroed out
 
alright, good night @Ted. or whatever time it is in Ted-Land
 
@Perturbative: Given any open cover of $A$ by open sets $U'\subset A$, each $U'=A\cap U$ for some $U$ open in $X$.
 
I see @arctictern
 
3:58 AM
@MathisLife: You have to break it up into intervals. On one, you get disks when you slice perpendicular to the $y$-axis. On the other, you get washers.
 
@DHMO I don't understand. You're asking intuition for $e^{2i\pi} = 1$, you mean?
 
Night, @Zach :)
 
@BalarkaSen you can say so. I'm actually asking intuition for the complex analytic extension of e^x
 
although I think every $M_n(B)$-module is of the form $N^n$, where $N$ is some $B$-module (assuming $B$ is unital)
 
I got bored and inspected the in- and circumcircles of regular polygons. Deriving the radii from the polygonal side length is obvious for even number-sided figures
 
3:59 AM
@Perturbative: So any open cover of $A$ by relatively open sets is equivalent to some collection of open sets in $X$ covering $A$.
 
I should consider odd numbered as well though
 

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