The Bridge

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Abbadon, level 25 + skill, now 188T of DPS :D

Is what I read correct that its best to not leave the page open to get gold faster?

3 hours since a new star? Must be broken

Rapitor

@Batophobia the starbait is weak today

Q: How can I make money playing games?

8:19 PM

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I would like to know is there any way that I can make some money playing games? If so what are they and how do I know what to do?

pc

butts

Rapitor

@Lazers does twitch/youtube count? that's not really directly related to gaming

@Batophobia denied

@Rapitor I argue yes.

Twitch is directly related to gaming

100%

Twitch is directly related to Pokemon

Oh good it still works

All non-Pokemon twitch is to be considered DLC

I am not DLC :P

8:23 PM

eyes suspiciously

@James #NotYourDLC

@murgatroid99 Damn Straight!

Got Sooooooo close to getting 1800 followers last night

@James You don't have to have the game open to progress?

Q: How I can earn money playing dota 2?

@Sconibulus Apparently not and the report I read said you gain gold faster if its not open.

StrixVaria

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Can I make real money playing dota 2? There is some mode that can allow me to play betting money on the game, or a similar way? In other words, play a game and earn some money?

dota-2

This question is awful.

8:25 PM

Does that mean all the tracking is done server-side?

StrixVaria

Should it be closed? If so, what for?

Or should it just be downvoted even further into oblivion?

@Sconibulus No. But it progresses slightly differently. You get gold for the time you spent with the game closed, but you don't get credit for monsters killed and such

@Sconibulus It could just track timestamps and subtract. Client side

Ahh...

I guess that is more convenient

Oh, so no increase in gold income if I close it down?

I dont feel so bad about leaving it open last night then :D

That doesn't make sense. Why would a game reward you more for not playing?

8:29 PM

@Unionhawk Here, stop using our system resources for a bit and we will give you 10% more gold.. Enjoy :D

Rapitor

@StrixVaria do you ever scroll up? we were just talking about it not even 5 minutes ago

it might not be intentional... I could imagine the game not taking into account the partial second of animation between monsters though

Sterno

@StrixVaria Doesn't show research effort. -1000 votes, vote to close, vote to delete, vote to ban

@Unionhawk You're talking about a game that's basically about idling anyway

@murgatroid99 True...

8:30 PM

@Unionhawk And it's not really rewarding you much more than if you did have it open

@StrixVaria It's technically a valid question. It's limited enough in scope.

Apparently Bayonetta 2 has a Star Fox Easter egg

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I agree it's a bad question, but I don't think it strays into anything we'd consider off-topic.

@Rapitor That was a different but similar question

@murgatroid99 And I suspect where the second question got its inspiration from.

8:31 PM

@Frank How is it not a recommendation?

@Batophobia It's...not asking for a recommendation?

@Batophobia He's not asking for us to recommend a game. He's asking how to do something in a particular game. That's generally allowed

Answers might recommend services, but there's no request for recommendations going on in it.

He's asking for a recommendation on how to make money playing a game

@Batophobia By that logic, every strategy question on the site is off topic

8:32 PM

Uuuuuuugh... Shadow of Mordor releases tomorrow, but I'm not finished with Destiny... :(

They're asking for a recommendation on how to succeed in the game

Just because you can manipulate the word "recommendation" into a question doesn't make it a recommendation.

@Fluttershy I feel your pain. I am not even level 15 yet in destiny

@Frank I... doubt it. Personally.

@Unionhawk The coincidence of asking such a general question right after someone asks about a single game is too great.

8:35 PM

Oh, wait, didn't catch "4 hours ago".

Maybe.

user15026

@Frank I am not entirely sure, but assuming motive without clear proof isd never a good idea

That seems a bit broad as there are many things you can do to make money playing games.

@AshleyNunn It's a personal suspicion. I don't intend to act on it at all. Just remarking on what may or may not be related.

I think it doesn't matter why they asked the question. Each of those questions is bad in its own way

@murgatroid99 Asking how to achieve a real-world result is different than achieving an in-game result

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user15026

8:37 PM

@Frank Either way, it puts ideas into people's heads that likely don't need to be there, and I don't think we should treat the questions as connected, or risk doing so

@Batophobia Not by our rules. Game recommendation question are very clearly defined in the rules, and that's not what it is

Game recommendation questions are those that provide a partial description of a game and ask for some or all of the games that match that criteria.

Audio/visual artifacts from the game are an exception to that rule on the grounds that they are sufficiently specific to identify a single game in most cases

@murgatroid99 That's game identification, not game recommendation

You seem to be mixing recommendation with ITG

If I ask "What games are good for my kids on Xbox One?", that is a partial description for which the asker wants some or all of the matching games

But even with your first point, the question is doing exactly that but instead of a game or genre, it is asking for all the ways on how to make money

8:40 PM

@Batophobia There is a very good reason that this rule is limited to Game recommendations

Otherwise, we would just ban every question that asks "How do I do X in/with a game/console/game-related program?"

This should still fall under the "too broad" category that game recommendations are part of

Game recommendations are specifically off-topic. Too broad is a separate thing.

@murgatroid99 To be fair, most recommendations are problematic questions, and ones that we don't support.

@Batophobia Game recommendations are not banned under too broad. They are exactly the first close reason

@Frank But asking how to do something with a particular game is not that kind of question

Game recommendations tend to be too broad, but they're also explicitly off-topic

8:42 PM

@murgatroid99 Including the "with a _____" makes it falls into the XY ptoblem

@murgatroid99 No, no it's not.

Answers can still recommend a service (and should explain how to use the service to achieve the goal), and there's nothing wrong with that.

@Batophobia That's not the same thing

It's when a question itself solicits nothing but recommendations that tends to make it problematic.

@murgatroid99 The reason we decided to make them a specific close reason is exactly because they are too broad

@Batophobia NO

8:43 PM

@Batophobia Nope. Recommendations are their own crazy bad ball of wax.

If they just fell under too broad, we would just close them as too broad

We wouldn't need another close reason

user15026

@Batophobia Not really. no

Anything not a dupe or off-topic is problematic, but has the potential to be edited and fixed, and hopefully reopened.

11 minutes left to breakthrough!!

@Batophobia No, it doesn't. This is more like asking "How do I do X in language Y?", which is perfectly valid and extremely common on StackOverflow

A: [game-recommendations] and single, correct answers

8:45 PM

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After some thought and discussion with other users on chat, my opinion is that in general, these sort of questions should be allowed, as long as They are not too broad They are marked as community wiki. Not too broad - because just a list of all RTSs doesn't add anything. Many other sites cat...

@badp Woot Woot, what levels ya on to?

> answered Aug 3 '10 at 20:54

Blog - Stack Exchange: Q&A is Hard, Let’s Go Shopping!

Jeff Atwood on November 23, 2010

Over the last 2.5 years, we’ve identified a few problematic classes of questions that tend to get asked on our sites. Many of these are documented in our standard set of close reasons: exact duplicate, off-topic, subjective and argumentative, not a real question, and too localized.

However, as we launched the great Super User experiment, a new, previously unknown class of problematic questions emerged — the shopping recommendation.

That is, on Super User we began encountering questions like: …

@James exactly where I were before

Our stance has stayed the same, but there's a reason recommendations don't work well on SE.

And SR.SE is in beta, so maybe that will change, but for the moment, recommendations are their own issue.

8:46 PM

@badp That would require me to remember what you said before about what level you were working on.. or scroll through this very .... indepth ... discussion going on.

7,452E+30 DPS about to become 1,100E+31

user15026

@Frank And even if that site makes them work, it doesn't mean every site needs to.

Either way, that question isn't a recommendation question. It doesn't actively solicit recommendations on achieving the goal.

haha, Nice :)

@AshleyNunn That's also true. I think we could make them fit, but they'd have to have strict rules surrounding them.

8:47 PM

@Frank Do you have a newer one?

user15026

@Frank I think we've already beaten that horse, no need to revisit.

@Batophobia I just linked it

What @murgatroid99 said.

Yeah, and especially considering SR.SE banned game-rec...

@AshleyNunn That's fair. I don't mind leaving it alone.

8:48 PM

What I read by @murgatroid99 is correct

user15026

@Unionhawk Oh yeah, there is that as well.

@murgatroid99 Still sounds an awful lot like "too broad"

along with a pinch of "quickly outdated"

@Batophobia That blog post says that it is explicitly on the list of "things not on topic for this site" for each site

The list of things that are not on topic is also the list of off-topic close reasons

That's nice, I'm trying to explain WHY this is a close reason, which everywhere I have seen is combining "too broad" and "quickly outdated"

Which recommendations on how to make money fall under that as well

@Batophobia If I ask "Is it possible to make money playing XY online poker game?" It's not too broad or quickly outdated. There is a clear and definitive answer to the question

That doesn't change just because the answer is no

8:53 PM

Ok now you said "Is it possible" which the question being discussed read: "How I can earn money playing dota 2?"

I wouldn't call asking how one can make money something that is quickly outdated

The first is yes/no, the second assumes yes and asks for a list

@Batophobia "You can't" is a perfectly valid answer to that question

which is why I mentioned "too broad"

@Batophobia LIST QUESTIONS ARE ONLY TOO BROAD WHEN THE LIST IS OPEN-ENDED

8:54 PM

which that one is

@Batophobia How the hell is "How do I do something within a particular game?" open-ended?

Not... really.

@murgatroid99 You are not doing something IN GAME

You are asking how you can get something in the REAL WORLD

Working my way to farm 79 :D

@Batophobia Fine, WITH THE GAME. There are still a bounded set of things you can accomplish using that piece of software

8:56 PM

@murgatroid99 The number of mods for Minecraft is bounded as well, but asking for all of them is too broad

Sooo Anyone else want to nominate a Vote To Close -> Other -> End discussion in chat over this question. ??? :D

@Batophobia That constantly changes.

@Batophobia He's not asking about the endless permutations of modded versions of DOTA2

@Batophobia bot.notenoughmods.com Enjoy :)

@Batophobia Actually, no, that's not bounded

Powerlord

8:57 PM

How do I eat pancakes?

@James I refuse to believe that's all.

@Powerlord awesomely in any way you want with a wide arrange of possible toppings.. Much to the envy of the rest of us :D

@Batophobia There are always new mods, which makes it unbounded.

@Powerlord stuff in face. Don't die.

@Arperum It mostly tracks the minecraft forums so it will not list the ones that are not there... mostly :)

8:58 PM

@murgatroid99 And there will likely always be other ways of making money with a game

@James I still don't believe that's all.

@Arperum kk

@Batophobia Oh come on. The answer to that question is "No, you can't make money in game". That's not likely to change, that the number of possible ways of doing so is extremely unlikely to increase without bound

@Batophobia Sure, stuff like that is subject to change, but it's not that subject to change that the change is particularly problematic, in this case.

That's what, a few thousand mods? There are certainly more.

8:59 PM

@murgatroid99 But you CAN make money with a game

especially dota 2

The question is deleted, anyway, so the point is officially moot.

@Arperum Sorry.. you said Believe twice, which means its your belief.. which means its a waste of my time to try and convince you otherwise :)

Its a place I go to look for mods and mod updates. I find it useful :)

@James It most definitely is. I never said that. I just am not ready to accept that the minecraft modding community has fallen back to a couple thousand mods.

@Batophobia No. For it is evil and makes me wish I was back in my cave.

9:03 PM

Sep 19 at 16:59, by Private Pansy

@Batophobia I find that image suspicious

@Arperum Back to a couple Thousand of mods? You mostly see about 200... I think 2000 is not going backwards :D

@James I'm not speaking about quality. I'm purely talking about quantity. I don't expect more then 5-10% of the total mods even be worth a look.

@Arperum To that I say

They eventually resolved this self-reference, but Cantor's 'everything-in-the-fetish-book-twice' parties finally sunk the idea.

@James Yup, very relevant.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Amenhotep has now taken over 50% of the DPS duties :D

And while I thought Midas sucked, he is technically the only person whose form of DPS never gets out scaled.

9:12 PM

@AshleyNunn Castle premiere tonight!

user15026

@Yuuki I am super behind AND stuck in the office til 1 am

Q: Can someone provide concrete examples of when to build armor vs health?

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I read this excellent explanation of how building armor provides diminishing returns in terms of reducing damage, but scales effective health linearly. I am bad at math. So in what cases would you need to stay alive longer and prefer to build armor as opposed to wanting to increase your health? A...

league-of-legends

@James It kind of bothers me that Godel is the one saying that, when the problem with universal sets and self-reference was more Russell's thing

Q: How can I complete Rainbow Road (Mario Kart Wii) without falling off?

9:27 PM

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I am quite experienced in the Mario Kart series, but when I went on Rainbow Road I always came 7th to 11th. Can someone tell me some tricks, tips or shortcuts? By the way, I use manual, not automatic.

mario-kart-wii

Jason Berkan

@Lazers Don't fall off.

@JasonBerkan Heheh I can see the answer now "Avoid driving off the edges" :D

@Lazers go slower

@Lazers Go very slow!!

Jason Berkan

@James That is the best advice. At 50cc, don't drift - just concentrate on staying on the course.

Though reading the title I see that my solution is probably not what the OP was looking for.

9:32 PM

The only good answer here is "practice"

@FAE "Frank O. Prussian-War Doyle!"

Level 100 hit! No extra hero souls, but did get a free gilded hero.

@Frank I take it this wasn't your first time hitting 100

user15026

9:53 PM

In the office alone for another hour til my boss gets here, then support, and there is NOTHING happening tonight except one NFL game.

user15026

So bored.

Hyrule Warriors

@AshleyNunn But it's the best game this week.

user15026

@MBraedley For some people, I am sure that is true. :)

user15026

But I barely understand football. I understand enough for work, but not enough to appreciate the sport

9:55 PM

And there's only ever one game on Monday nights

user15026

Yeah, I know. I am just grumbling because I usually work these from home, where there is a cat and tea and things

Uuuugh... The Vanishing of Ethan Carter looks so good... And is probably one of the prettiest games I've ever seen. (cc: @GnomeSlice) But... Destiny and Shadow of Mordor... Bridge, help. ;_; What do I do?

@MBraedley Oh, yes. Yes, it is.

Origami Robot

@Fluttershy Shadow

@AshleyNunn I'm sure you can arrange for tea at work

user15026

9:57 PM

@Fluttershy All the things! (I am helping)

user15026

@MBraedley I probably could, if I bothered to poke about in the kitchen

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.

I'm gonna keep whining because I am stuck at work and bored.

user15026

@Fluttershy high fives, is also this thing

@AshleyNunn high fives!

And taking cone off Bela was a failure. Started licking her stomach almost right away.

Origami Robot

10:02 PM

Also a good plan

@Frank How many days has it been?

@OrigamiRobot Four.

user15026

@Frank How long has it been? If the vet said you could take the cone off, she might be okay to lick

They said they prefer to leave it on for ten to fourteen days.

user15026

Okay, yeah, then you should follow that

user15026

Trust me.

10:04 PM

DUDES

FUCKING OMG

THE COOLEST THING JUST HAPPENED TO ME

I am. I was gonna take it off for some supervised fun no-cone time, but she just buggered off and started licking.

So back on goes the cone!

user15026

@Frank laughs they can't be trusted, butr their faces are so cute and sad...

@spugsley go onnnnnn

user15026

I was so glad I never had to do the cone with Norbert

I went out shopping for a pair of flats for Fall. I went to Nordstrom Rack. I found a cute pair. They are SO comfy. Then, I looked at the price. They were originally 135.00 marked down to 30.00 which is a GREAT DEAL. BUT THEN

10:05 PM

@AshleyNunn And she was so calm, too!

I took them to the register. They rang up for $0.01

user15026

@Frank Tricksy little kitten

But off comes the cone, and awaaaaaay she goes!

a fucking penny

I got designer flats. For a penny.

That's the coolest thing?

you were internet famous multiple times, and getting expensive shoes for a penny is the coolest thing

alright then

user15026

10:06 PM

I don't really get shoes, myself. I mean I go barefoot as much as I can, and wear shoes only when the world insists on it, like outside in winter.

user15026

(I am dragging out flip flop season as long as I can)

I love shoes :3 I love comfy shoes like so much. I want to walk on things that feel like pillows

user15026

@spugsley I like my flip flops because they are like minimalist feet pillows. I don't care what my shoes look like so much, as long as they fit my canoe feet and are comfy. (Having to find/wear dress shoes that aren't like basic black dress shoes that look like runners but black and fancy is my worst nightmare)

@AshleyNunn you should try sketchers :3 They have cute comfy pillow sneakers that actually look more like dress shoes

@Batophobia being internet famous is overrated. At least penny flats can't insult me.

or can they...

user15026

10:10 PM

@spugsley I have a couple of dress shoe pairs from having to go to an SO's work party thing and other than that I just avoid things :P Like if I can't wear flip flops or something with my dress, deal's off :P

:3

@Batophobia O_o

Nightmare Before Christmas has a great soundtrack

user15026

@Batophobia You know, I don't think I have ever seen that movie

Music is nice to work to

Movie was good if you like that sort of movie

user15026

I have no idea. :P I will have to watch it sometime, because I know a lot of people that keep telling me I should.

10:15 PM

@spugsley What if they fail at a most inappropriate time?

Maybe they did it on purpose!!

@badp O_o

ALSO I AM GOING TO CHEROKEE THIS WEEKEND SO MAYBE THESE ARE LUCKY SHOES

just run them through an exorcist first

also I found this Hibiscus Sangria Tea and it is SO good

user15026

If i had known I was going to be here tonight I would have packed some of the new chai tea my friend gave me but it is at home! (Because I came here straight from my parents place)

RedRiderX

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10:30 PM

HI CHAT

BYE CHAT! (home time)

Okay, apparently I can't test my code.

Q: Is there a way to get back up the Cliff in The Gardens of Ishtar?

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In The Gardens of Ishtar, the path you take to the Sound Shrine and to the fishing spot with the red stone lithograph has a cliff which you have to drop down (there's a platform in the center which has a monster and a chest) I am wondering if there is a way to get back up the cliff as i can't cl...

atelier-iris-3

For some reason, adding unit tests means I lose references to Windows.Storage.

???

So ABC has green lit a new series which is going to be a medieval musical, with a score by Alan Menken, and is going to star John Stamos, Rutger Hauer, Timothy Omundsun, WEIRD AL...

user15026

10:42 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I am tentatively curious although convinced it might just totally suck

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There's a trailer

How to Make A Pizza Cake. and How To Eat A Pizza Cake.

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> I happened to have the main ingredients at hand — dough, sauce, pepperoni, cheese and existential despair, so I set to work.

Q: Will setting up 2 steam accounts allow you to play the games you've bought between both accounts

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My dad and I have just bought a gaming pc to share between us and we don't want to share the same steam account, but we also don't want to have to buy a game on my dad's account and not have it work for my account. shouldn't it just save to the desktop so we can both play the game but just on dif...

steam

10:59 PM

Pizza cake?

Pizza cake?

Pizza cake?