The Bridge

@Frank I feel like the person uses words they don't understand (did "misogyny" really apply there?).

so...did SE ever had a policy on hellbanning?

@Sconibulus He's just a troll.

3:01 PM

@Sconibulus is there a flag for "Go away you dumb troll"

@fredley I thought the thing in the middle was a screenshot of a TF2 inventory for a second.

@fredley Oh man, I didn't click that because I thought you were showing an arena. That's totally Cookie Clicker

He's the same person that wanted to start the gamersgate discussion a little bit ago

I believe a swift account deletion is in order, followed by a rep transfer to me.

@Wipqozn motion seconded

3:01 PM

@Batophobia I hate to break it to you, but it's a shop.

Journeyman Geek

yup

user15026

@Yuuki I don't think so

@Wipqozn you want a reputation for trolling?

@Wipqozn No, to me. I need it after deleting my account.

@Powerlord I suppose that's fair.

Tim Stone

3:02 PM

@Wipqozn Actually the protocol says we have to deduct the rep from you too.

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@TimStone So it would all just balance out?

@AshleyNunn Granted, I don't think "racist" applied either, but it least it was somewhat relevant to their point.

@fredley Everything I know is a lie....

@TimStone worth it

user15026

@Yuuki I could see a weird argument for it perhaps, but the claim of misogyny doesn't make any sense and is in no way relevant

3:03 PM

@Batophobia Except for cake

@fredley Everything I know is delicious....

user15026

@fredley We have cake at our potluck today :D

@OrigamiRobot You're the best.

@Sterno is becoming senile...

@Sterno ... around! No one's ever gonna keep you down!

3:06 PM

never gonna give you up

@Sterno I TRY

oh, wait.

That drama was over too quickly.

To be fair, we discuss that in here plenty. Just with more tact.

And then don't go trolling the comments

Once the chatban is up I'm sure it will return

3:07 PM

Well done everyone on not rising to it

@Batophobia it will return...for another chatban.

Okay, now let's get back to discussing how @Frank is wrong.

Does a number of bans from chat get a siteban too?

The Bridge, now with more drama!

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user15026

@tombull89 chat bans and site bans are completely separate entities

3:08 PM

@Batophobia more <sup>than usual</sup> drama

Wait, is chatbans the incremental game for the Bridge?

It's just exponential backoff

user15026

Unless mods go in and give a chat ban alongside a site ban, but they are done as separate instances

user15026

One does not affect the other

Chat bans can happen just from flags, site bans need mod intervention

The ice is thinner in chat basically

3:10 PM

that was a good one

StrixVaria

@tombull89 "temporarily"

3ventic

@tombull89 Temporarily until the end of time

@StrixVaria technically...

Huh. Michael Bay stepping away from Transformers movies.

It's not indefinite :P

user15026

3:11 PM

@tombull89 Those happen.

@StrixVaria yes, that suspension was followed by an intersting discussion on "tempoary"

@tombull89 1938?

@JasonBerkan concentrated. I have them over two heroes, @chippies even reduced it to a single hero.

Koviko

@tombull89 I think all permanent bans should do this. A "permanent" ban should equal 18 years, enough time to "grow the hell up."

It would be better if it said Jul 32, 24:01

3:12 PM

Did someone reinstate the [*gate] ban? Because it was definitely unbanned like last week

@Koviko there's no such thing as a permernant ban, though, is there?

@Koviko BUUUURN

@Koviko ಠ_ಠ

@Arperum With preference to lower or higher heroes?

@murgatroid99 I think it was a regular actual flag

3:12 PM

Lower because they are cheaper?

Didn't see the message

@Unionhawk oh

I have the samurai and frostleaf.

But ignoring *gate, that was going nowhere good

@murgatroid99 SAUCE (NOT SAYING YOU'RE LYING, I AM LEGITIMATELY CURIOUS AS THE THE CONTEXT OF THIS)

3:13 PM

@Sterno But I'm not wrong. You're going senile in your old age.

@OrigamiRobot I think it was badp

user15026

@murgatroid99 It was about more than the attempt at discussing *gate

WELL THAT EXPLAINS A THING OR TWO

@OrigamiRobot I don't know how easy it will be to find, but there's something from badp a while ago about how the ban on the topic was supposed to be temporary

@Unionhawk I always thought that meant discussions of Stargate were not allowed

user15026

3:13 PM

While I appreciate we don't have a ban on it, per se, at the same time, if enough people say that they don't want to talk about it, perhaps people should take that as a strong suggestion.

@3ventic I thought the end of time was January 11, 2038

@AshleyNunn A rather untactful attempt.

user15026

@murgatroid99 It was intended to be temporary as long as people could talk about it rationally and tactfully

user15026

with like civility and junk

frostleaf is not perfect, but very late game you'll want to transmit to him, but that's only once you get to 4100 with your lower heroes.

3:14 PM

I've got no issue discussing it here, so long as we keep it respectful and neutral.

@AshleyNunn Well we have plenty of junk

@AshleyNunn I'm not even saying I want to talk about the subject. I just thought it was surprising that we banned someone for it, given the context I had to work from

bleh, I came here to escape it.

3ventic

@Powerlord You forgot time tra... I mean, yes... yes...

It's plastered all over the interweb, you can't avoid it.

3:15 PM

@murgatroid99 He was banned for a specific comment, not for trying to discuss GamerGate.

user15026

@murgatroid99 The ban was more for the statement that the ban came from rather than the topic

@tombull89 I know where you can go to avoid it

@Batophobia Siberia?

Whoops, my bad. It's 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038

@tombull89 Playing games

3:16 PM

Year 2038 problem

The year 2038 problem is an issue for computing and data storage situations in which time values are stored or calculated as a signed 32-bit integer, and this number is interpreted as the number of seconds since 00:00:00 UTC on 1 January 1970 ("the epoch"). Such implementations cannot encode times after 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038, a problem analogous to the "Y2K problem" or "Millennium Bug", in which 2-digit values representing the number of years since 1900 could not encode the year 2000 or later. Most 32-bit Unix-like systems store and manipulate time in this "Unix time" format, so the year...

OK, I just couldn't tell that when I asked because I couldn't see the comment

Luckily, most modern compilers use an int64 for time_t now.

user15026

@murgatroid99 In general, assume that if a ban was issued, it was done so in good faith based on whatever the deleted comment is

I play too many games have have pretty much 0 knowledge on what gamergate is

user15026

Having to justify bans doesn't really make sense, especially if people cannot see the context that would explain it

3:17 PM

so just leave gilds who end up on frostleaf on him, move all other gilds to a couple heroes you like (samurai and brittanny are seen as good IIRC) @JasonBerkan

If someone gets banned from chat, there's typically a good reason...

@murgatroid99 "Something something offensive something, body parts, North Korea" was the comment, essentially.

anyway, early hometime!

something something, good weather ,g o home already. quote by boss.

@Arperum It's comments like these that make the workday longer, I just got in an hour ago

@Arperum Sounds good. I'm probably not at a point where I'll be moving gilds around, but I have 3 on the Fisherman right now and I was wondering what was good later on.

user15026

3:20 PM

@tombull89 Aye. And if it happens, it rarely needs to be discussed beyond "thing happened"

At the moment I have a maxed out Vaagur, so I'm doing fast Dark Rituals to see how far I can go (and grab a whole bunch more souls).

Which also means that every 10 levels I get a new gild.

Has @Chippies reached the a lot of money yet?

@Batophobia Wait, can DK throw barrels in the new Smash?

@Yuuki Only in the 3DU version

supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Barrel

3:23 PM

> “I have a lot of stories to tell,” Bay said.

Explosions aren't a story.

@Wipqozn That... couldn't be farther from the truth.

user15026

@Wipqozn They aren't? But they're my favourite kind of stories

@AshleyNunn Sorry @AshleyNunn.

@Batophobia Oh, I was thinking as an actual special move, not the item.

user15026

@Wipqozn gestures to HUG gun

3:25 PM

Okay, that actually looks kinda cool.

Although it's probably shopped.

@Wipqozn I dunno; they've got a conflict, climax, and ultimate resolution.

user15026

the woman beside me keeps tapping her pen on her desk, or her fingers on her laptop, or something on something and it is maddening

CONFLICT: I WANT TO BE A LARGER VOLUME THAN I AM RIGHT NOW
CLIMAX: I AM EXPANDING AS FAST AS I CAN
RESOLUTION: SUCKS TO BE EVERYONE ELSE

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but what about the romantic subplot?

IF IT'S A FIERY EXPLOSION, IT'S IN LOVE WITH OXYGEN

3:33 PM

@DanHulme That happens prior to the conflict.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE YOOOOOOOOOOU!

Damn it @OrigamiRobot - I just took a sip of coffee when I read that.

I LIVE TO SERVE

@JasonBerkan Never drink and bridge

Lazers

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Q: Was Olaf one eye a fraud?

According to King Olaf's verse he was a fraud but if this is true then why was he in Shor's hall in Sovengard if only heroes can go there

skyrim

@Wipqozn Never drink and Bridge. The capitalization is important.

3:43 PM

@Batophobia This is probably a good writeup, but others will certainly find fault with it

Nov 13 '13 at 19:35, by Yuki

Gamers Gate is best described as huge clusterfuck which is best avoided.

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I don't care which side you are on, how you view it. It doesn't matter. It's just chaos.

@badp Yea, I don't really want to know anything about GamerGate. It just seems like a big mess I'd like to continue ignorance of.

@Wipqozn are you talking about the online shop, or the argument?

I still like to believe it started with good intentions, then somewhere somehow shit just hit the fan

3:44 PM

(the statement probably applies to both)

@Batophobia Okay, but should that change, the poster behind that link has done a lot of work to debunk a lot of the bullshit flying around.

@Rapitor The Internet, that's the "somehow"

user15026

@DanHulme I've had good experience with GamersGate, less so with gamergate

@Unionhawk pretty much

ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT IS IT APPLIES TO GAMES JOURNALISM WHICH IS ALREADY ENOUGH FOR ME TO GIVE ZERO FUCKS

3:46 PM

@OrigamiRobot it hardly applies to game journalism

I bet this makes Sony happy. Assuming Ars Technica is correct.

HARDLY IS ENOUGH

@Powerlord uncertainty?

I mean, when Sony has sold almost as many PS4s as WiiU+Xbox One combined...

3:46 PM

@Powerlord I love how maybe the Wii U is doing better than the Xbone we don't know

also when was this

@OrigamiRobot All I know is it's being referenced in webcomics I follow which means jokes I don't get, but I'm not sure I want to fall down that rabbit hole just to understand jokes about the news of the month

Q: Crysis Crashes on Startup With R9 290

All I know about it is that it is not a rabbit hole I want to explore.

Lazers

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Whenever I start Crysis on my new custom built desktop, it starts in a full black screen and nothing happens. I have to CTRL + ALT + Delete to get back to the desktop and only to find a window that says 'Crysis has stopped working'. My new rig has the following specs: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8 Core ...

technical-issues graphics-card crysis amd

@Rapitor The article may have more details

3:47 PM

I wonder how Adam Baldwin feels about starting the tag #GamerGate.

> To recap, we know there were five million Xbox One units shipped worldwide through mid-April, and 3.5 million combined shipments of the Xbox 360 and Xbox One in the April to September period.

@Powerlord "two-console market" (shows 3 console stats)

Well, isn't that nice of MS to not break out the sale of Xbone?

@DanHulme The argument. It's just a clusterfuck. Mention gamers gate and drama is bound to follow.

And don't get me wrong, I love drama, but not when it results in upset in the awesome people of the bridge.

user15026

@Wipqozn Gamersgate - online store, gamergate - clusterfuck drama

user15026

3:49 PM

(that s is important)

@Batophobia The percent they're quoting (65%) is ignoring the WiiU.

Poor Wii U

@Batophobia Just follow xkcd. At this point, no mention of GamerGate.

@Unionhawk I prefer to look at is as "A league of their own"

@KevinvanderVelden Whether or not it applies to journalism is part of it.

Tim Stone

3:50 PM

@Unionhawk nou

@Yuuki The last safe haven :)

Part of the reason it's such a clusterfuck is everyone involved seems to think it's for something different, so the arguments will come down less to whatever issues it's about and what GamerGate is actually about

Part of the reason it's such a clusterfuck is because the internet excels in creating clusterfucks.

And it just grows increasingly out of control as time goes on

@Wipqozn I think it's about buying me a yummy pizza for lunch.

3:51 PM

@Unionhawk It really does

@JasonBerkan Exactly!

user15026

@Yuuki Or Questionable Content, or Girls with Slingshots, or any number of other very good comics

Ooo... now I want pizza for dinner

damn you @Yuuki (you get the blame because reasons)

I HAVE COME TO DISTRUST PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT USES THE TERM "GAMER" AND THAT MENTALITY HAS SERVED ME WELL SO FAR

@AshleyNunn I have not read QC in forever.

I think you guys would be in favour for returning to banning all Gamergate discussion for another three weeks or so?

user15026

3:52 PM

@JasonBerkan I get potluck for lunch, I have heard word of chili and pulled pork and lemon pie and other awesome

@Wipqozn meh. To be honest, if you are a gamergate supporter and even if everything gamergate is supposed to stand for is true (corruption in game journalism etc) the second it started routinely involving death threats, doxxing and all that shit you should have dropped it, come down hard against the assholes and then when it's calm again you can try bringing up the points again

user15026

@Yuuki Oh, man, you should get caught up because I need more people to yell happily about it with

In my opinion

Just bought 9 bags of candy

@badp Most likely.

3:52 PM

@badp aye

@Unionhawk Don't make @Yuuki post food pictures

@Sterno I WILL DO THE SAME TOMORROW

@AshleyNunn yell with me! Squee at the spoiler spoiler spoiler

I have noticed that the discussion has not been particularly nasty or heated, save for a couple exceptions

Yes.

3:53 PM

@Batophobia What? Something about me not posting food pictures?

user15026

@KevinvanderVelden If the spoiler is the thing I think it is, it makes me squee very much

All that GamerGate has shown me is that Twitter is a completely useless platform for having a serious discussion about anything.

@KevinvanderVelden That's fair, but another fair point is that if you stop to deal with assholes you're letting the assholes win, and that the best course of actions is to just not engage those assholes in thef irst place. Both are perfectly valid as far sa I'm concerned.

@AshleyNunn the spoiler is after the pancakes

Wait, did I post this one already?

user15026

3:54 PM

@KevinvanderVelden YES

@JasonBerkan You can't do that through hashtags anyway

user15026

There is MUCH squee about post-pancake things.

@Wipqozn the assholes are saying they are on your side actually, so I feel that doesn't apply

@Yuuki oh dear what happened to that poor pizza

@badp It was made with tortilla flour, I think.

3:55 PM

It's posted on /r/glutenfreecooking, so that's probably it

ugh

@KevinvanderVelden which is a perfectly valid opinion, like I said. That's part of why it's chaotic. You have the part of the GamerGate movement which are just assholes, and everyone in the community has differnet views on how to handle that. Within that group of people with different views is a group of assholes about how to deal with assholes. There's just too many assholes involved because people.

user15026

@Yuuki This looks like a sadness pizza

user15026

Not enough good bits

Diabetes would probably kill me inside

3:55 PM

Ugh to the trend of gluten free, but my mom is actually gluten intolerant. So I know about these things.

@AshleyNunn I also loved Tai's reaction when he told her

Pizza rolls!

user15026

@Unionhawk I see a reason for needing GF things, but I don't like it as a "health food movement"

Yes.

user15026

3:56 PM

@KevinvanderVelden That was the best. :D

@JasonBerkan I thought the 140 character limit has proof enough of that. You can't have a serious discussion with only 140 characters.

user15026

Now I just hope it doesn't end in flames like most other relationships do in QC

@Unionhawk ugh to the gluten free trend indeed, given that ~1% of people are gluten intolerant and a third of people are going gluten free

@AshleyNunn Huh. I'm not as far behind as I thought.

Panzarotti

Panzerotti are savory filled pastries, various forms of which are popular in Italy, Canada, and the United States. == Italy == Panzerotti originated in central and southern Italy, especially in Apulia. They are small versions of the calzone or closed pizza, but produced with a softer dough. The most common fillings are tomato and mozzarella, but spinach, mushrooms, baby corn, and ham are often used. Another filling is onions stir fried in olive oil and seasoned with salted anchovies and capers, a seasoning that, mixed with bread, is also used in Apulia for stuffed bell peppers. In the cit...

3:57 PM

@Wipqozn 140 characters, lack of any decent threading, the ability for anyone and everyone to enter the shouting match...

It's not really reasonable to completely dismiss twitter just because of this event

I mean, I don't think I've read it in about half a year or so.

@badp i had one of those for lunch.