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6:00 PM
Here's what happened
 
@Wipqozn At least you still have... yourself to fall back on.
 
Raven replies to the post about a questionable image being posted about Wip and Ash's gravatars
he says that the picture wasn't questionable
James misunderstood him as talking about the MLP dressed up in storm trooper gear picture
this leads to both sides being confused because THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT IMAGES!!! dramatic music
 
@Mana oh my zeus!
 
@Mana - have you considered becoming a play-by-play announcer?
 
6:03 PM
@Mana Yeah but that was the picture linked to by my comment and Raven implied I was remarking on something he/she posted.. So I am thus still confused?
heh, Actually nevermind, I am happy to just let the confusion pass :D
 
35 mins ago, by James
Wasnt there that questionable image the other day regarding @AshleyNunn and @Wipqozn's gravatars?
 
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I WILL NOT LET THIS CONFUSION PASS.
 
@RavenDreamer Oooh! Yeah that was the deviant art link :)
I am now alot less confused :)
(Just to spite @mana so it has to pass :P)
 
I maintain that if you thought that picture was questionable, you should see a Freudian psychiatrist.
 
6:05 PM
heeheeheheheheeee points at Wipqozn and giggles he said alot
 
@Wipqozn Which flag?
 
oh god no.
 
@Mana If they can add a ton of internet acronyms officially to the English language, they are being jerks for not adding a term so widely used :P
 
@GnomeSlice Why did this ping me?
 
@ArdaXi I had the wrong message reply number, sorry.
 
6:07 PM
@Mana lolololol
@James this
 
@GnomeSlice "Shut up." got flagged in ELU yesterday
 
@Mana Oh, I saw that.
Invalidated.
 
@GnomeSlice Yes, but that's because different people responded to it.
 
@GnomeSlice ...hm.
 
@GnomeSlice just read slightly below your linked message
 
6:08 PM
@Mana Transcript, just now.
 
@GnomeSlice Oh, okay.
 
Also, @GnomeSlice, do you read the entire chat backlog every time you join the room?
 
I don't think @OrigamiRobot and @IanPugsley found this as funny as I did, but I'll share it anyway cause I laughed alot youtube.com/watch?v=YjZR1Rjj_p0
 
@Wipqozn I had a ping from you in my inbox, i.e. the message I just replied to.
I read a bit in front of and after it.
 
@GnomeSlice I didn't think I pinged you.
 
6:09 PM
@spugsley Oh god, these are my favorite
 
@spugsley trolololol
 
@Wipqozn You did.
 
@spugsley I thought it was hilarious. Shut your face!
 
@Wipqozn Yeah I saw that alot page when it was on someone's moderator candidacy that they used to have an alot gravatar.
 
@Mana Yessssss. They are amazing. I've never been drunk but would make an exception to do a Drunk History video.
 
6:10 PM
@GnomeSlice I did not. We must be thinking of different messages.
@James That was me.
 
@Wipqozn ...you did, though
 
@GnomeSlice I have good news! We're prepared to offer you the subsponsership to do music / sound design.
 
@Mana I didn't ping him though.
I just said "gnome", without a ping.
 
@RavenDreamer Thesubwhat?
@Wipqozn Oh, you're right, it wasn't you.
 
@GnomeSlice Well, I'd say "contract", but none of us are getting paid. So it's a sponsered project instead.
 
6:11 PM
16 hours ago, by James
(gave me the impression she has had to respond to flags about @GnomeSlice more than once)
@RavenDreamer :P Sounds good.
 
@GnomeSlice I want to send you some files. Do you have a preferred email address I can reach you at?
Sound specifications
 
@GnomeSlice When you join chat you actually go through and read everything from when you left until now?
 
@James Not usually, but that ping showed up in my inbox, so I read a a little ways before and after that message.
 
Ooh. Yeha I see the @ in there now.. I am just having one of those days it seems (I should have stayed home!)
 
oh
 
6:16 PM
@GraceNote Oh, remember that past-ping thing I was telling you about? It just happened again.
With James' last ping to me.
 
@GnomeSlice Okay, what message was your ping pointing to, then?
 
@GraceNote Which?
Oh, my reply? It was to the same message.
 
You were saying that you'd get pinged but it be something from far in the past.
 
@GraceNote Not usually far, usually a recent ping, but one I'd already been pinged for.
5 mins ago, by James
@GnomeSlice When you join chat you actually go through and read everything from when you left until now?
 
Oh, are you referring to stuff being in your global inbox? That's an intentional 17-23 minute delay between the message and when it goes in the inbox.
 
6:18 PM
@GraceNote No, @James just pinged me, and I replied to it, then a few minutes later I got a new ping from the same, unedited message.
 
Ah, I see.
 
@GnomeSlice You did edit a response to that message though.. Maybe edit a response to this one?
 
It shouldn't affect it
 
@GraceNote Not sure if it's relevant, but it happened immediately after I left the room I created for myself and @RavenDreamer.
 
@GraceNote Shouldn't, but trying to guess how software is written is what got me into programming when I was 10 :)
 
6:20 PM
i.e. 'Leave other rooms'.
 
@GnomeSlice Yesterday, I was getting pinged for every ping-able message in the last 5 minutes, every time I got a new ping.
 
@GnomeSlice I don't imagein it is.
 
@RonanForman Online?
 
As in, someone pinged me, one ping.
 
@fredley Sure.
 
6:20 PM
Someone else pinged me, so one ping, and the first message re-pinged.
 
@RavenDreamer @GraceNote I also just got three desktop notifications for this message.
 
@GnomeSlice That's a standing and known issue
 
@fredley There you go.
 
@GraceNote Ah, yep, got them for that one too.
 
6:21 PM
@RonanForman Thanks
 
@Mana Grarda?
 
Anyone want to join in: Race for Wool MC build?
 
Telling time by SO: When the new question count approaches 3000, your day is almost done.
Sooo either everyone is off collecting wool, or I just found a way to kill all discussion :)
 
Does anyone know what @MichaelMrozek's comment on the recent meta thread about flagging means? I'm worried I might have misunderstood it.
 
> @GnomeSlice You realize you'd be on like step 11 of the warning system, right? This wouldn't magically get you out of chat suspensions
that one?
 
6:26 PM
Yeah, that one.
Unless I misunderstand, that's exactly the reason I didn't want to post the meta thread myself.
 
@GnomeSlice I took it as confirmation about your comment as well.
 
I think you understood it correctly.
 
That makes me sad.
 
Since I understood it the same way.
 
And judging by the upvotes Id say so have (eyes @Wipqozn and @Mana) alot of other people.
 
6:28 PM
Also, @FallenAngelEyes I got suspended before I could apologize for being such an ass yesterday, you're right, it wasn't particularly funny.
 
@GnomeSlice My point was the OP was talking about a system with "a set steps to escalate to suspension starting with just a normal verbal warning, an official verbal warning and then suspension or banning", and you commented about how glad you were someone had suggested it; I was pointing out that you would still have ended up banned either way since you're way past two occurrences, so it was unclear why you were so excited about such a suggestion
 
@GnomeSlice No need to be sad man. There was no need for him to confirm your own reasons for not wanting to post the topic in general, but that is all that happened.
 
@MichaelMrozek I just meant I was glad someone had posted a topic about chat flags on meta.
I'm guessing most of the SE mod community really doesn't like me being around all that much any more.
 
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Q: In the game XCOM, UFO: Enemy Unknown, How do i close the stats screen?

Steven RogersI'm not sure if i am doing something wrong or it is a glitch. In the game XCOM, UFO: Enemy Unknown, i was playing normally. I shot down a UFO, went to go kill the survivors, went into battlescape, then for some reason i decided to click on the little gold icon that brought up the stats screen. (Y...

 
@GnomeSlice It's not that, but I find the victim complex silly; if you'd just stop posting stuff like that people would stop flagging you. Some of the flags are stupid, but some of them aren't, and it gets old seeing the flag indicator pop up and immediately knowing it's on one of your messages
 
6:32 PM
@MichaelMrozek Some of them aren't, but do you really think anyone else would have been suspended for saying 'shut up'?
 
@GnomeSlice This has a reason, however.
 
My entire life is a victim complex.
@ArdaXi Which is?
 
@GnomeSlice Someone got flagged for it in ELU yesterday. I don't know why yours got approved, it was just someone clicking stupidly
I think you got unsuspended for that anyway though
 
@MichaelMrozek He did
 
We didn't have a lottery deciding who we were going to start paying more attention to in terms of flagging.
You exacerbated the problem yourself.
 
6:33 PM
@ArdaXi Sounds like you were paying less attention to me, to be honest, since nobody bothered to check the context of it.
 
From the POV of someone responding to the flag, it would look like a user telling a moderator to shut up when the mod is giving him a warning about a post he just made, and could have resulted in a suspension.
 
@GnomeSlice No, I mean, paying more attention to your messages.
 
from te chat faq:
> Do I have to be nice?
> Yes. We expect community members to treat each other with respect … even when they don't deserve it.
 
@Wipqozn That goes both ways.
 
@RavenDreamer yes, it does.
 
6:34 PM
@GnomeSlice We were just talking about this yesterday; the problem is if 80 people go and check the context, and one person just clicks "valid", that person's vote is going to get in there first. It's annoying, and chat flags definitely need revisiting, but it happens all the time, not just to you
 
I'm just saying that's why he probably got suspended.
It's not because someone had it out for gnome.
 
@MichaelMrozek I understand, which is why I was glad about the meta thread.
 
It's because he told a mod to shut up who was trying to give him a warning about his behaviour.
 
Although it's not really a Gaming.se specific problem.
 
@RavenDreamer Apparently we were fixing that xcom post at the same time
 
6:36 PM
@MichaelMrozek I think the solution is to simply force users to go to the chat log to validate something.
Don't even give them the option to valid/invalidate/not sure until they visit the room.
A simple solution to the problem.
 
@Wipqozn badp had a related idea, but that's actually not bad either
 
If the flagged message is a reply, it should show the message it's a reply to as well.
@MichaelMrozek I see that thread got a lot of attention.
 
I wonder how many question/answers chat flags have as a combined topic.. there does seem to be a large number of posts about it spanning a pretty hefty time frame.
 
Bountied, for what it's worth.
 
I'm generally not impressed with the efficacy of meta bounties, but I can't seem to help myself
 
6:40 PM
It's not like I was using the rep for anything else.
 
Well, you'll see ads now :). But oh well
 
I wonder if we should retag as or at least add a synonym for it. I think most people are going to start looking for the tag by typing "xcom"
 
So this wiki is getting a lot of advertisement lately around Reddit pcgamingwiki.com
apparently it's all about trouble-shooting PC games
 
@Sterno why isn't it already tagged like that?
 
I don't know. And it won't let me suggest a synonym
 
6:43 PM
@MichaelMrozek Wow, really? I didn't know there was a rep-limit to remove ads.
 
@Sterno make a meta
@GnomeSlice 200
 
Also, should die?
 
Removes the banner ads
@Sterno I think the opinion has been "yes" for awhile.
There's probably a meta about it too.
 
Why does @GnomeSlice look like Jordi?
 
@DavidB Geordi*
 
6:48 PM
laforge
yes
 
And it's just another variation of my gravatar.
 
k
 
Of course.
 
@Wipqozn I don't get it.
 
6:50 PM
@GnomeSlice It means the joke went over my head.
 
@Wipqozn 99 Problems, by Jay-Z.
> "If you having girl problems, I feel bad for you son, I've got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"
 
@GnomeSlice Oh, I get it. He's a rapper.
 
@Wipqozn Yeah. Hah. Hah.
 
That's why I didn't get it.
 
6:52 PM
putting a bunch of tags in your meta question makes it format all weird
 
Probably nsfw lyrics, based on the video title.
 
@GnomeSlice You should put it in a text link with NSFW.
 
@Wipqozn ...
 
@Wipqozn ...Is the video thumbnail offensive?
 
@Mana Don't we normally put NSFW videos in a text link?
I always do.
 
6:54 PM
@Wipqozn That doesn't make sense if it's the lyrics, not the thumbnail, that are NSFW.
 
@Mana It does if someone starred the video.
 
@GnomeSlice this is fine. for extra credit, make the NSFW disclaimer on the same line, so it doesn't get lost if someone's browsing through the history.
 
The video title has [dirty] after it, so that's probably a pretty good indication. That's what I was basing my 'probably nsfw' on.
@agent86 Besides, since when does anyone watch videos I link any more.
 
@GnomeSlice I watch the majority of videos you post.
 
@Wipqozn Pffffffffffffffffft.
 
6:56 PM
@Wipqozn Rookie mistake
 
I don't see what the big deal is about putting it in a text link with NSFW warning.
 
@Wipqozn I don't see what the big deal about not doing those things is. =[
 
@GnomeSlice It's NSFW. The warning is so people know that.
 
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Q: How should XCOM games be tagged?

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Putting the warning next to it is great for people seeing it now, since they will likely see the warning, but if someone seen the video in the starred list they wouldn't see the warning.
 
6:58 PM
@Wipqozn I think you have one-too-many words there.
 
@GraceNote No, I think he wrote it correctly. The thumbnail isn't NSFW, but the lyrics are.
 
That wasn't the right word to remove...
 
oh, snap
deeeerp
 
Wow, okay, you really did miss that.
 
@GraceNote I wouldn't have got it either if it wasn't for that meddling @StrixVaria, and his little pig too!
 
7:01 PM
DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT PIG!
 
@GnomeSlice To be clear, you don't understand why a warning about not-safe-for-work content is important, or you don't understand why it's met with frowning that you don't place warnings in context?
 
@GraceNote I don't understand why a warning directly after the link is frowned upon, while a text link isn't.
Okay, no, that's a lie, I understand perfectly, but I can't edit it any more.
 
So you do understand why it's helpful to have the warning on the same line as the material.
 
@GnomeSlice My reason is that if the video got starred, people seeing the video in the starred list wouldn't see the NSFW warning.
Also, it's probably better to put the warning before too. putting it after can often be too late if people click the video fast enough.
 
@Wipqozn It was a pretty safe bet to say it wasn't going to be starred.
In this particular case anyway, I don't actually know if it's nsfw. I was just basing that assumption on the video title, which anyone who clicked it would see immediately.
 
7:04 PM
@GnomeSlice Yeah, but we can't divide things up based on the probability of it being starred.
Also, for the record, I'm not saying it's a "big deal" to not put the video in a NSFW text link, just that it's a good idea. For the reasons I've stated above.
 
Right, but yet we've still been discussing it for like 10 minutes.
 
It's more that it's a generally good idea that, if you think it's not-safe-for-work, you should include the warning alongside the material so that it isn't easy for it to get separated.
Star or otherwise.
 
@GnomeSlice Things don't need to be a "big deal" for us to discuss it.
 
Yo @sjohns!
 
Why did I not know about this until now...
 
7:11 PM
@GnomeSlice Dunno
 
@GnomeSlice Do you design a lot of applications or something similiar?
 
@Wipqozn Not yet, but I'm getting there. I'm studying Interactive Multimedia.
'Interactive' being the relevant keyword.
 
ah, nifty.
 
Flash game of the day: Linx: Hard Set.
 
tag length limit is 24, or 25?
 
7:18 PM
25
 
@GraceNote Just got a re-ping from @Wipqozn's last message, as well as one from the Ux.SE chat room.
 
Enjoyable Dark Souls speed-run( 35 minutes ):
 
@GnomeSlice I've reported as best I can.
 
@GraceNote And another one from another message in UX.SE.
 
They should really fix the regex on youtube videos so that "https" doesn't break it.
 
7:22 PM
@Wipqozn I haven't played Dark Souls yet...should I watch this?
 
@Mana I wouldn't.
 
Christ, this game is hard.
 
I will only ever play it if it gets released for PC
 
@Mana I don't think it ever will.
 
watching it
 
7:25 PM
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Q: What weapons in Skyrim are one-handed?

garrettI am forging some new weapons for myself, but I don't want to waste my hard earned resources on a two-handed weapon. (I am proficient in one-handed battle)

 
As he notes int he description, he makes use of a bug to skip a sizable portion of the late game. I've seen another bug-free one which was 1:26:28, but he still manages to complete in 32 minuts what took the other speed runner about 42 minuts.
 
Egads, this is level three, and I'm stuck.
 
I'd be curious to see what his total time would be if he didn't make use of the bug.
 
I need to find a way to cut out five paths...
Now two.
 
7:30 PM
@GnomeSlice What's the name of it?
 
12 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
Flash game of the day: Linx: Hard Set.
 
Thank you.
 
Erg, I give up.
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A: Need advice which template is better?

tyuyutyyr rty rt t rtryrt r yrt rtrty ry ry rty

 
@GnomeSlice flagggeeet
 
I did.
I wonder if that question is even appropriate for the site.
 
7:35 PM
@GnomeSlice Why spend any amount of effort doing something like this?
 
@GnomeSlice Maybe that's the secret to really good UI design. Incomprehensible gibberish.
 
@StrixVaria Doesn't seem to work for me.
I guess I need practice.
Argh, just got repinged for all of those.
@GraceNote Is it a chrome thing?
@OrigamiRobot Hard to say, he seems pretty efficient. If you look at his username it's nearly the same keys.
 
@GnomeSlice You still have to have the thought process that motivates you and click a few times.
 
Is there a way to make a question not look ridiculous if you put tags in it? (in the text, not the tags area)
 
@Sterno Ridiculous?
 
7:47 PM
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Q: How should XCOM games be tagged?

SternoToday a question came in about X-COM: UFO Defense. It was tagged with x-com-series and strategy. We do have a tag for this game, ufo-defense, but I'm guessing that the user didn't find it because he was looking for the name the game is commonly referred to as... simply X-COM. Looking at the qu...

@GnomeSlice Look at how that ended up looking
the tags make the vertical spacing all weird.
 
@Sterno Seems fine to me.
@Sterno Well, there's that...
Hm.
Maybe feature-request tags to have the same line-height as text?
 
Oak
@GnomeSlice I actually recall something like that
 
I look at my own post and don't even want to read it just from the way the formatting looks. My eyes are all like "bugger off, pal!"
 
Oak
maybe it was requested
There:
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Q: Inline tag highlighing code too obnoxious?

cbroughtonTo me, it appears as if the tag inline highlighting is too intrusive / obnoxious. It breaks up the spacing-below of the line it's placed on (due to the height.) Perhaps the font in an inline tag should have a slightly shorter line-height or font-size to compensate for this, to prevent it breaki...

No idea why it got so many downvotes, though
 
and the only response is to basically fix the stylesheet yourself and use a browser addon to fix it just for you.
 
7:52 PM
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Dupe.
 
Which isn't much of a solution
 
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Q: Differences Between Kilik and the Edge Master?

GnomeSliceBoth of the characters 'Kilik' and 'Edge Master' get a style picked randomly from the other characters at the beginning of each fight. Are these two characters exactly the same? Or are there some kind of advantages/disadvantages of one over the other?

 
@Lazers Dupe.
 
@StrixVaria Ah really...
Ballsack.
 
@GnomeSlice yup...
 
7:52 PM
Deleted.
 
Edge master also has an attack when playing as Xiba that Xiba doesn't have.
 
Oak
@Sterno agreed
 
22_88AAA
Xiba's is only 22_88AB
 
Oak
it should be bountied
 
@StrixVaria Yeah, I'd noticed his weapon as Xiba is different.
It's a poleaxe, rather than a staff.
 
7:53 PM
It's mostly aesthetic, and Xiba is probably the only one where he has an extra move.
It's a carry over from SC1 with Kilik.
 
Oak
@GnomeSlice I'm surprised that with so many unique words in the title, it didn't offer you this question as a "similar question" while authoring it
 
I remember Kilik was the staff guy in SCII.
 
I'm still pretty bummed about the removal of Yun-Seong, Talim, and Zasalamel
 
@Oak Bounty posted!
 
Yun-Seong was pretty generic.
I liked him though.
 
7:56 PM
I liked Hwang better.
 
I was happy that they'd reskinned Xianghua, but Leixia I still want to punch in the face.
 
@StrixVaria I could care less who, I just want the moveset
 
I liked Seung Mina better than Kilik
 
boo, I can't downvote that answer
 
Well, Zasalamel was a story character in whatever game he was in, wasn't he?
 
7:57 PM
Xiba is kind of a half-way point between them.
 
@GnomeSlice he was introduced in 3, but still present in 4
 
@GnomeSlice He was the awesome guy.
I'm still annoyed the turned him into a mimic character #firstworldproblems
 

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