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Hmm, time to try out Doomsday. Now where did I leave my DOOM WADs?

11:24 AM

@ArdaXi Doomsday?

Supposedly a high-graphics port of Doom.

dengine.net

Interesting.

Don't really notice it to be honest.

Putting lipstick on a pig™

I don't find to be a surprise. It's like all these companies that release HD versions of old games, and they look exactly the same as the original one.

@badp you wear lipstick?

11:37 AM

I dunno, Serious Sam HD looked somewhat better than the original one.

@Wipqozn Do I look like a (capitalist) pig?

@badp Yes.

Turns out I'm not!

Q: Is His Dark Materials suitable reading for children in Christian homes?

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others

There. I knew I had the quote slightly wrong.

I really should read through Animal Farm again.

wait, what?

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His Dark Materials contains overt criticisms of a controlling Church and forced removal of free will. But these are quite popular as children's literature around the world. The question to others is whether they recognize the sub-text and allow children to read and form their own views, or are...

The question to others is whether they recognize the sub-text and allow children to read and form their own views, or are the books considered harmless in the religious respect?

Am I reading this correctly? Because it sounds to me like the it's saying letting your children form there own views is harmful.

@Wipqozn Letting you form your own typo there is harmful

@Wipqozn That's exactly what it's saying.

11:47 AM

@ArdaXi That's what I thought. Thank you for confirming I wasn't reading it wrong.

@badp Indeed.

But I knew that when I read the title really.

Yeah, the title is what caught my attention.

Well, I don't know what the community of Literature is like, but I would be very wary of allowing questions like these.

Christianity is harmed by logic and opinion, so the answer is yes.

@RonanForman I think it's a good idea to keep these kinds of debates out of this chatroom.

11:51 AM

I don't remember any religious subtext but it's a while since I read it.

@ArdaXi I agree. It won't lead to anywhere good.

I can't delete in the mobile site, any mods around?

@Wipqozn I like debating and I do it often enough, just... a time and a place.

@RonanForman @badp is.

I think so, anyway.

@ArdaXi SAme here, actually. I enjoy a good debate, but you need to be careful the topics you bring up and where. Religion is one of the more touchy ones, and considering how diverse our chatroom is I could see it leading to a lot of problems.

@Wipqozn Exactly.

11:54 AM

Isn't @ArdaXi a room owner?

If so I think he could delete it.

@Wipqozn Nope.

@ArdaXi I don't have a problem with the question itself, but I think the wording could be improved.

The question to others is whether they recognize the sub-text and allow children to read and form their own views, or are the books considered harmless in the religious respect?

I must say, I have no idea how many of our community (at least in chat) is religious.

I'm pretty sure that would lead to trouble.

After all, if you're Christian you probably don't want to buy your children books that takes jabs on your religion.

@Wipqozn The question itself is rather dangerous, seeing as there are Christians who think Harry Potter was written by Satan himself and there are those who'll allow reading Dawkins.

11:57 AM

@ArdaXi Yeah, it's a fine line I agree. In fact I think the question itself should be reworded. What the question is really asking is does the book have strong criticisms of religion, which is a fine question.

Fair enough, but that does mean rewording the entire question.

(Keeping the answer in-tact)

Yeah it would, but that's what the core question really is.

Yeah.

Editing questions again are we?

@ArdaXi Nor I. I do believe this room has a liberal slant though, which can often imply a non-religious slant.

@RonanForman Maybe :P

Also, @RonanForman, @GraceNote is here now.

Also, I love Gustav Holst's The Planets

The Planets

The Planets, Op. 32, is a seven-movement orchestral suite by the English composer Gustav Holst, written between 1914 and 1916. Each movement of the suite is named after a planet of the Solar System and its corresponding astrological character as defined by Holst. With the exception of Earth, which is not observed in astrological practice, all the planets are represented. From its premiere to the present day, the suite has been enduringly popular, influential, widely performed and the subject of numerous recordings. However, it had a protracted birth. There were four performances betw...

I've been meaning to explore more of his work, but simply haven't got around to it yet.

Lazers

12:07 PM

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Q: How can I find god(s)?

I think I've played through most of the dungeons by now, and I believe I have all the Kingdom buildings. But I still just have three gods whose altars spawn, Taurog, Tikki Tooki, and Glowing Guardian. How do I unlock the other gods (Mystera, Dracul, Pactmaker, Earthmother)?

desktop-dungeons-paid

CruelCow

@Lazers We should have a monthly best question title award

@CruelCow We do get a lot of good titles.

Yo.

Oy.

oyyo

or yooy if you prefer

12:16 PM

I'm impartial, man.

@Manaಠдಠ No, you're impartial Mana.

That works.

@RonanForman I'll admit I did raise an eyebrow when I read that; you're rarely that rough. Still want it deleted?

12:34 PM

@badp I agree, it sounds more like something I'd say.

12:44 PM

@badp No, I just wanted to avoid an argument, one hasn't started so it's fine.

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

Also religion is one of the only things I feel strong enough about to start an argument.

heh

You can if you want

I'll pass thank you

if I started one, then I'd have to delete your message!

12:47 PM

Why bother starting an argument about religion? It just seems kind of silly as long as neither parties are using their religion in a way that offends other people.

It's interesting though that you're only interested in arguing in stuff you've already made up your mind about

Religion makes people happy and I don't really see any reason to argue against them for that. It's not like I'm going to change their minds.

Food for thought ♪

@badp See, I argue anything for anything.

okay, I'm probably being unfair there

12:48 PM

@Manaಠдಠ But they— there are— ooooh. Clever. Very clever.

I argue about religion because I want my mind changed, unfortunately it never happens :(

Let's try using the patent-pending-and-thus-not-really-patented ArdaXi™ method then

@RonanForman your beliefs are bad and you should feel bad.

@badp Did you just compare me to Zoidberg?

@badp Did you just steal the Zoidberg line I always use and attribute it to Arda?

@ArdaXi Well... you're both sea creatures of sorts.

12:51 PM

@badp You've really gone too far this time.

Zoidberg of all characters.

Hey! He's hilarious.

@Manaಠдಠ Shhhhhh, details. As if I knew every Futurama line :(

also chat.stackexchange.com/…

@badp It's like one of the really famous ones. I don't even watch Futurama.

@Manaಠдಠ Your show viewing selection is bad. You probably already feel bad about it however.

I do.

@Manaಠдಠ Good.

12:55 PM

I liked that episode. "You can't just have your characters announce how they feel. That makes me feel angry!"

1:16 PM

Speaking of Futurama, has any here been watching the new seasons?

no, I've got them downloaded, I need to get round to watching them

I don't have comedy central you see

Nor I. There is no way of viewing them in Canada aside from downloading them.

I seen one episode online, it seemed okay.

Was curious how strong the revived seasons have been in general.

They're not as good as the originals. Technically there's only been 1 revived series unless you count the movies

@Wipqozn I think they're still quite funny. If you liked the originals, they're definitely worth checking out

@Wipqozn And I believe that, at least in the US, the first of the new seasons is available for streaming on Netflix. I don't know if Canada has different licensing agreements, though

@DaveMcClelland We might, it's hard to say.

Either way I'm not going to pay netflix so I can watch them.

1:23 PM

Doesn't canada have comedy central?

Isn't only Season 6 a revived one?

@ArdaXi I know that there was a break after the first group of new episodes, and now they're airing new episodes again

You probably could get it if you ordered it with satellite.

Though they may have just broken season 6 into two groups or something

@DaveMcClelland Well, yeah, but it's still the same season.

1:24 PM

@ArdaXi He's got you there @DaveMcClelland

They're airing very intermittently.

@ArdaXi Even still, I believe that the first group of episodes are available on netflix. Let me check on my phone

@ArdaXi is technical correct, which is the best kind of correct.

Holiday Spectacular was the last one of the first group.

@Wipqozn However, you finished a minute early.

1:27 PM

Mana - 55
Raven - 45
FAE - 44
Ivo - 31
sjohn - 22
Arda - 19
Kevin - 12
bwarner - 6
Anna - 3

I can't see the full titles

but i believe the first episode of the revived episodes was named "rebirth"

and i can definitely stream that

@DaveMcClelland It was, yeah.

and the last thing that i can see available for streaming is "Holiday spectacular"

Yep, that's the first batch.

I've got a theory, that it's a demon.

1:28 PM

so yes, I believe the first half of the new season is available for streaming

As you can see in my image, there's a half a year in between.

I can't speak for the kooky Canadians, though

@badp If I recall last election, primaries said next to nothing about the actual results.

@ArdaXi Yep, I know. I just didn't know that Netflix would allow partial seasons to stream

@Arda Oddly enough, that's the opposite of what Grace said to me.

1:29 PM

@ArdaXi just idle ordering

@Manaಠдಠ I don't recall @badp being at the top of the list then.

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/102239/… ← judge by yourselves, look at the data porn section

I was 3rd in primaries

Hmm.

@Powerlord Who? Heathcliff? I must agree, and I wrote a paper on it.

StrixVaria

Wasn't badp the third one selected?

1:30 PM

@Wipqozn A dancing demon... no something isn't right there.

@StrixVaria I actually ended in 2nd place.

Well, if you look at Ivo and me, we had roughly the same kind of votes in the election and a factor of two difference in the primaries.

@Manaಠдಠ I said primaries last time had a strong indication of the topmost spot.

@Grace True, sorry.

The data actually shows the top 4 are usually correct

1:31 PM

@GraceNote That sounds oddly self-serving. ;-)

however... I wonder how this will feedback

StrixVaria

@badp Does that include elections from other sites or just the one election we have had?

2 mins ago, by badp

http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/102239/primaries-should-select-the-top-8-candidates ← judge by yourselves, look at the data porn section

@ArdaXi Well, I can't argue against numbers, can I? ♪

@GraceNote And yet, I have no idea how you do it. You're just incredibly charismatic I suppose.

1:32 PM

Those are the only 4 primaries I know that ever took place

@ArdaXi I honestly have no clue, either.

@Arda man I love saying that word. "Charismatic".

I chalk it up to logical rationalization.

(As in, that I use it. Not that it was "logically rational" that I should win. That's entirely not what I mean. At all.)

It's just so fun to pronounce.

There's nothing logical in charisma.

1:34 PM

I think it's simply the calm, fair, detached but involved way Grace approaches every discussion around here

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@badp I agree.

In other words, we've failed as a community to get Grace mad at somebody!

@badp I can be ca— err... I can do fa— I'm always det— Okay, I'll concede.

ducks

@badp I'm sure if we bothered him to give us personal information for the next few hours we'd piss her off.

1:36 PM

I was about to just do that edit.

But... alas, we have name and surname, the company he works for and a picture of her pig. What more could you wrestle out of him?

@badp True. We essentially know everything there is to know about her.

@badp Don't forget age, location, list of achievements. Or is that just me?

@ArdaXi Don't forget favorite colour.

@Wipqozn "favorite colour"

@ArdaXi I don't keep files on everybody around here, sorry

1:37 PM

@ArdaXi what?

@Wipqozn It's either "favourite colour" or "favorite color". Not... both.

@Wipqozn You spelled colour with a u but not favourite.

@Wipqozn You used both American and British English spellings

He's oscillating the gender and the spelling

Commendable!

which is actually quite amusing in light of the boy/girl oscil--fuuuuuuu

1:39 PM

@Manaಠдಠ —, not --

@ArdaXi oh, my bad. It's a bad habit :/ By default every spellcheck in Canada uses the american spelling by default. It's a real piss off.

I don't even know what spelling I do use

Probably more US and UK tho.

In Europe, I believe British English is more prevalent. Used to be, anyway.

@Wipqozn Really? Wow.

@Powerlord Yeah, it's really stupid.

1:41 PM

At least you can change it on some, like... Word?

@Wipqozn Oh? Which ones?

My spell-check was very unhappy with me writing "favorite color".

@badp stares

EDIT ALL THE THINGS

Q: Why are characters banned in tournament play for Dota-likes?

Mine was unhappy with me writing "you spelled colour with a u but not favourite."

Lazers

1:43 PM

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Why are characters banned from Dota-likes in tournament play during selection? Are there characters that are actually imbalanced; why not just balance them? If it's just for the sake of another level of meta-game strategy, where did it come from?

league-of-legends defense-of-the-ancients dota-2

And Firefox can't make up its mind if colour is right or not.

@GraceNote Microsoft Office is the most prevalent.

@Wipqozn That's a horrible colour

I like that word. Prevalent.

@Lazers Solid, I love to see questions like these which give insight into how gaming tournaments are organized.

1:44 PM

Also, the English(Canada) setting is terrible anyways. It doesn't consider "Color" an incorrect spelling.

For @Mana

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Wait even canadians think US spelling is stupid!

@Grace This...this is going to change my life. Thank you.

@RonanForman Canada doesn't like the United States as much as the United States thinks :P

just like the rest of us

1:46 PM

> Rage at the gym, to attract the chicks and scare the dicks.

Oh...everything after the comma is great but I'm not so sure about everything before

USA is like England's disappointing son.

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@RonanForman I lol'd

Here, have a star.

Thank you

You're welcome.

@GraceNote Did you just link to Quora?

1:47 PM

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Thank you for the chuckle.

@ArdaXi To wit, it was linked to me.

That is the best thing.

Loktar

wow everytime I click chat now I see more and more gaming rooms

Sugar-free Red Bull? Heresy.

Loktar

1:49 PM

pretty cool

ooh rivers

@Loktar Become a mod to unlock all the bonus rooms!

(The bonus rooms may or may not exist. If they do they still don't.)

No, I was wrong. This is the best thing.

@RonanForman Ugh giant mushroom.

Loktar

lol nice @badp

1:51 PM

@badp I know that room.

drawing buffer comics is so relaxing, knowing it doesn't need to go out today

sjohnston

@Manaಠдಠ You are correct

@Manaಠдಠ What's that a reference to?

I'm assuming a rap "song"

sjohnston

@RonanForman A terrible hip hop song

close

1:54 PM

T-Pain.

►

@RonanForman Yeah I'm also confused. I'm not even sure what the term "shawty" means.

I assume it means whore or something.

@RonanForman Ground-level rivers ain't rivers, they're channels. :/

@Manaಠдಠ The original is Apple-Bottom Jeans by T-Pain I believe.

@sjohnston Mo' like the best hip-hop song!! shades

1:56 PM

I'll tell notch

@Wipqozn Shawty (n) - A woman with apple-bottom jeans and boots with fur. When she dances, the whole club looks at her. When she bends over she gets low, and approaches the floor

@DaveMcClelland I see.

@Wipqozn I saw some American talk-show host ask Hugh Laurie what it meant.

Ellen or somesuch?

Good thing Metroid Prime 2 will eventually tell you where you need to go next. I didn't think I'd have to head back to Temple Grounds to get the Seeker Missile before coming back to Torvus Bog.