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11:13 AM
1 off my rep cap!
:D
@DrRDizzle You have a point there.
Weird.
 
11:41 AM
@CandiedMango don't use that word. because according to the dictionary and some of our users, it would mean he literally died.
 
@phantom42 He, literally, did not die.
Ann Perking is , literally, my favourite Jedi.
 
@CandiedMango they shouldn't have. one of the reject reasons is specifically for the type of edit that that was.
 
Silly users breaking systems.
 
define literally: literally: adj; (2) not literally.
 
I am literally dying right now
 
11:46 AM
new ideas for our chat room name:
The Sanctuary
The Basement
Agents of Everything Except SF&F
Here We Hate Things
Mos Eisley: Reloaderd
The Book Was Better
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Ok Story, Terrible Pacing
 
@DrRDizzle the annotated screenplays mention it, but dont note which draft the concept first appeared. "i wanted the father to be darth vader, but i also wanted a father figure. so i created ben as the other half. you have one who is the light half and one who is the dark half."
 
@MikeEdenfield I really like The Book Was Better
 
@phantom42 How much can we trust Lucas though? He'd digitally remaster history if he could.
I'm being flippant, but we know he has lied about how much was originally planned in the past.
 
also, new idea for the meta poll: ignore downvotes. In elections you don't get to vote against people, you vote for them. take the 5 highest upvoted ideas (including Mos Eisley) and make a new question.
 
@MikeEdenfield Mos Eisley Episode IV: A New Hope?
 
11:55 AM
Mos Eisley Reloaded: Chamber of Secrets
 
Mos Eisley 2: Back to the Chatroom
 
make new rooms out of all of them, see which one people hang out in.
 
@CandiedMango Mos Eisley II: Mos Eisley-er
Mos Eisley with a Vengeance.
Live Free or Mos Eisley (Mos Eisley 4.0 in some territories)
A good day to Mos Eisley.
 
Mos Eisley: Reloaded 100% more flags
wait.
 
Mos Eisley: Assemble
 
11:58 AM
@MikeEdenfield Mos Eisley: Age of Obie.
 
we definitely need to keep the chatbot named Obie.
not even a question
 
Mos Eisley: A Storm of Swords Flags.
Mos Eisley: A Feast for Crows Mods.
 
irvin kirshner says that the first official appearance of the concept of vader specifically being luke's father was in the second draft of ESB. granted, that doesnt necesarily have to match up with when lucas conceived it - it's just the first time the notion was put onto a distributed piece of paper
 
Mos Eisley: A Clash of Kings Communities.
 
12:02 PM
trying to find the note about luke and leia's first being conceived as siblings, but dont have time now. i'll look more later tonight
@MikeEdenfield we do in primaries don't we?
 
Mos Eisley: A Game of Thrones Rep
 
@phantom42 oh, i dunno, do we? i meant real elections :)
 
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A: How do election primaries work?

rolflIn the primary phase eligible community members get to "vote" for as many or as few candidates as they want. At the end of the phase, the 10 candidates with the most votes go through to the actual election phase. This is taken from the side-bar description of the primary phase: In the primary...

> In the primary phase, all nominees advance to preliminary community voting. Any community member with 150 reputation may vote in the primary.

There is no commenting in this phase, only one up or down vote per candidate. The candidate vote scores are all public. Initial voting should provide a rough sense of which candidates are most electable.
not that it really matters. just confirming if i was remembering correctly
 
yeah plus i used the wrong word anyway.
this is more of a poll.
"check one box below:"
oh my god how many answers are there on this meta question?!
either way "Mos Eisley" wins by a gigantic margin.
+21/-9 and the only net positive score; next highest was The Nexus +9/-9
 
@MikeEdenfield Most of them come from two users, I think. I've only just submitted mine.
 
12:16 PM
yeah one user appears to have submitted every Harry Potter location they could think of
this is why you need a two-stage process, though. i already voted, I'm not going back every day to see new submissions.
 
First we should probably focus on a strategy for lowering our flagability
 
@CandiedMango I maintain that in 99% of instances, that is an issue with flags, not the community.
 
i have no problem renaming the chatroom if people are uncomfortable with the name recognition. it's absolutely not going to solve any of our problems but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
@DrRDizzle I have recently come to the conclusion that it's both.
our community cannot accept that it has different flagging-tolerances than other chat rooms.
it does.
accept it. live within in. be happy.
 
@MikeEdenfield It's not going to magically fix the problem, no, but it might make people realise that something needs to be done.
 
oh, and there's also the bit where you don't argue with the people in charge
 
12:19 PM
@MikeEdenfield Some flagged someone for saying they wanted to buy a gun a while back though. That was the entire message.
 
ok.
they were offended by it.
 
Plus offensiveness is subjective, so always air on beige side of comments.
 
@CandiedMango I'm offended that some people like Man of Steel though.
 
then flag it.
of course, if you flag something and the flag gets invalidated, then move on.
 
Argh, sod this. I've spoke about this before, nothing was done because there isn't a better system, end of. Let's move on.
 
12:21 PM
don't spend the next 45 minutes arguing over it.
I agree with you. it's a terrible system. but it's the one we have.
so, options: a. work with it, b. go somewhere that has a better one, c. complain through the proper channels and see (a)
 
I have never been offended here
 
Anyway, vote for my idea on the chatroom name. It's the best one, says I.
 
What is it?
 
@CandiedMango Me either, but this is a new room ;P
@CandiedMango Mos Eisley Episode IV: A New Hope
 
Haha :D
 
12:26 PM
Never been offended on SE
 
@CandiedMango I have, once. I was joking about the Man of Steel thing - there's no accounting for taste.
 
I can't remember the last time I was offended.
 
12:43 PM
@CandiedMango your lack of memory is offensive
I knew someone at university who I offended by giving a stranger directions
 
@Pureferret To you maybe.
YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE SOMEONE DIRECTIONS!
GAWSH
 
@CandiedMango they asked, I said I didn't know and I carried on walking, but they knew, they could have given directions
I tried to contact her to make and but she's blocked me on FB
 
Weird.
 
@CandiedMango I think it was stress
 
As you can tell I'm quite, erm, liberal. As far as I know I didn't offend anyone though, it's all in the tone and the smile. Actually scratch that.
More than one time in the library I did an incredibly loud burp and a girl shouted "that's disgusting" at me
@Pureferret Makes sense, people change under stress.
Now you all know I'm a real classy guy.
 
12:58 PM
@CandiedMango Sounds familiar.
Morning, all.
 
Here come the mods here come the mods
 
Mod, singular.
 
Didn't want to scare
 
OK, plural.
 
If I had mod friends I'd organise group room joins just to incite paranoia
 
1:05 PM
@CandiedMango Now there's an idea.
 
People have weird interests
 
@ArtOfCode You mean that has been happening already?!?!
 
@DrRDizzle Not yet...
 
@AnkitSharma Seriously. There's no possible way to explain anime.
 
See what would happen if the people upstairs realised I should be a mod.
 
1:07 PM
On mature sites, mod is an elected position.
 
See what would happen if the people on my level realised I should be a mod.
 
@Donald.McLean i like anime
@CandiedMango don't know you much to say, what can happen next
 
@AnkitSharma So do both of my daughters.
 
@AnkitSharma Silly, I am.
 
@Donald.McLean but i like the serious ones like Death note, code geass. Not that silly dragon ball or pokemon any more
@CandiedMango Silly mod seems a common idiom
 
1:10 PM
The Dragonball movie is probably the best movie I've seen this year.
 
> Anime
> Serious

Pick one
 
@DrRDizzle There are serious stuff in anime too.
Go for any one of the two i have suggested
 
@AnkitSharma There is anime that tries to be serious and mature, but that's a very different think to actually being serious or mature. There is a reason that every main character in an anime is a high school student lol.
 
@DrRDizzle the only new one i'd even consider voting for is "the restaurant at the end of the universe"
 
@DrRDizzle YOU MEAN ANYTHING RELATED TO HIGH SCHOOL CAN'T BE SERIOUS :O
 
1:13 PM
@MikeEdenfield it just seems like renaming "cancer" or a terrorist group. you can call it whatever you want, the underlying problems are what need to be addressed.
 
@AnkitSharma No, but in practice yes.
 
@DrRDizzle One more topic of disagreement.
List is becoming long now
Need more paper
 
PAPER!?!
Excel dammit.
 
Mysql table?
As i am DBE
 
i'm not entirely sure dizzle ever actually watches any of the things he proclaims to hate. either that, or he just claims to hate everything just to be edgy and cool.
3
like a SF/F hipster of some sort
 
1:16 PM
@phantom42 later one
 
Why would you want to be a DBE?
Wait the money ofc.
 
@CandiedMango I am already a DBE and whats wrong in it?
 
whats wrong is that they make more money than me
 
@phantom42 cough cough......meme........
 
Obviously nothing, It's just that it isn't my preferred path. I much prefer software engineering :)
 
1:19 PM
@CandiedMango that need more time for upgrading now and then. That makes less time for my second life
@phantom42 talking about money always make me sad. So will ignore you message
 
@phantom42 I totally agree, but I'm also not against renaming the chat room solely for the PR benefits :)
 
Great. Let's write a letter to the Headmaster that the Sorting Hat can finally be retired, because the Sci Fi SE provides more accurate readings of the houses of students.
(It's really mostly the controversy about Peter Pettigrew that annoys me.)
 
@b_jonas Brilliant piece of sarcasm.
 
(Too many people keep repeating in comments under various posts that Peter wasn't brave, whereas I do still see him as brave after all that discussion.)
 
> "It is the same story every season with The Walking Dead, I gave up on it last year. They are roaming, roaming, and then they think they find a place that is safe, but (no) surprise! It's really not safe. Then the blonde and the not-white guy dies."
 
1:29 PM
> Dear JKR,
you are wrong.

Sincerely,
-SF/F
 
The hat is still adamant that he didn't make a mistake with pettigrew that the case of his death proves he was still brave.
 
Ok, more serious. Should scifi.stackexchange.com/q/58471/4918 get ? It's a question about what students should get into what houses for what properties, just like the rest of the tag.
 
stupid quote markup doesnt allow strikethrough
@b_jonas nothing should get
it really doesnt meet our criteria for a tag
and the new tag should be fixed to be
 
@phantom42 I think it does. We have lots of questions about who gets sorted why, there should be a tag for that. "sorting-hat" might not be the best name, but there should be some tag, because such questions are otherwise hard to search for.
IMO the tag really helps searching.
 
sorting-hat is kinda borderline. there's a ton of information specifically about the sorting hat and how it works.
 
1:33 PM
Otherwise you'd have to search for (house OR Gryffindor OR Slytherin OR Ravenclaw OR Hufflepuff) except by using the correct spelling of all four houses, AND you'd get a lot of false positives.
 
i guess i'm not like a lot of users. i very rarely search by tags. i pretty much only use them for my favorite/ignore filters
i'd just search for the words "sorting hat" and not ever think to go by the tag
 
@b_jonas or search for "sorting"
 
especially since my search would come up with more results
 
@phantom42 Yes, but the sorting hat isn't always mentioned in questions like "Why is Peter Pettigrew a Gryffindor"
 
I'm ok with and if we have it it should be used consistently.
regular HP users need to be responsible for tagging the right questions with it.
if it's not consistent it's useless
 
1:34 PM
We can update the tag wiki to clarify its use if we want.
@MikeEdenfield Yes, that's what I'm trying right now. And it's already mostly consistent.
 
search: "sorting hat peter" guess what the first result is
 
heh.
i was about to say "we don't have any questions tagged "
then i realized I have on ignore
 
I think I'll go forward and edit any questions about who is in what house to that tag.
 
Calm yourself mike ;)
 
@b_jonas remember. 5 out of the last 15 active
 
1:43 PM
@phantom42 I watch anime. I'm watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure at the moment, and I recently finished Hunter X Hunter.
 
@phantom42 Yes, I'll be careful with touching. (Although there should be some support in SE to avoid this problem. But whatever.)
 
@b_jonas well, it's been at least a week. you should post a meta suggesting that edits don't bump questions.
 
We have exactly 5 now (two new questions, three I tagged)
@phantom42 heh
But like I said, most such questions are already tagged to so I don't have to edit much.
 
@phantom42 Also, I often come into chat specifically just to talk about things I like, or things I've watched recently and enjoyed. Just because you like something doesn't make my feelings of dislike insincere.
 
@DrRDizzle yes it does
i'm american. i'm always right. especially when i'm wrong.
you also need to realize that i almost never wear my serious pants in chat.
 
The best part about mos eisley is no one knows you're naked.
3
 
or if you're really a bothan spy.
not that i am. /shifty eyes.
 
I'm a terrible bothan spy, people always notice the naked guy.
 
remind me 15 bumps later
 
Why anybody want to discuss scifi while being naked and spying
 
1:51 PM
why wouldnt they?
how else are you supposed to do it?
 
Its not chatroulette
 
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Q: Rename "bobafett" tag to "boba-fett"

phantom42The tag bobafett was recently created, and while I typically abhor character tags, it passes our general criteria for existence. However, all of our other character tags and property name tags substitute hyphens for spaces. As such, the tag should be boba-fett. Can we get this tag renamed?

 
@phantom42 I mostly use SE while working in office.
 
CandiedMango invites you to cam
 
So office= cloths
Formals mostly
> Cam request rejected
 
> Puts it away
THE CAMERA GUYS! I PUT AWAY THE CAMERA.
 
@phantom42 Yes, that matches some.
But not all such questions.
 
2:01 PM
@phantom42 Good luck finding questions that only mention "house" or "Gryffindor" that way, like scifi.stackexchange.com/q/105992/4918
 
good luck trying to find all the questions in any way
 
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Q: Looking for fantasy book with a magic tree that picks one person to talk to while it is dying and letting evil back into the world

callmeredheadI know it's not much to go on, as I read this book probably close to 7-9 years ago. Here's my best synopsis of what I remember. It is also part of a series, if that helps. There is a magical tree that the people of the land kind of worship, kind of serve. It hasn't spoken in many many years, but...

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Q: Where did the snowflake necklace come from?

phantom42In Once Upon A Time, Elsa finds a snowflake necklace in their mother's belongings, and gives it to Anna. However, we later learn that How did the necklace wind up back in the castle in Arendelle?

 
Watching IceQuake on Syfy
Or I was
 
2:19 PM
that bad?
 
@phantom42 Nah
I'm not the one with remote anymore
 
so the town line protection in once upon a time removes memories if you leave town during the first curse, but not after the second? is that right?
 
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Q: Does time pass normally in the Enchanted Forest?

phantom42After the first Dark Curse, and everyone returns to the Enchanted Forest, we meet Robin Hood, who has taken up residence in the Dark One's Castle. He has a young son named Roland, whose mother is Marian. Neither character ever appeared in Storybrooke before, and Robin has no idea about Neal or ...

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Q: What Happened to the Engagement of Thomas Milligan and Martha Jones?

Lord VoldemortThomas and Martha met during her journey to save the world in the season 3 finale of Doctor Who, Last of the Time Lords. After time was reversed at the end of the episode, Martha found Tom; he was a pediatrician working in Africa. They began dating off-screen, and in the fourth episode of season ...

 
when does bell go through/across, curse 1 or 2
i cant remember
 
she spends curse 1 locked up in storybrooke
she goes back to rumple's castle with neal between curses
 
2:34 PM
she def forgets everything at some point
though i need to rewatch that whole mess
 
well, she starts off in storybrooke with no memories. then the curse is broken and she gets the memories back. then she gets pushed outside the town line and loses her memories again
 
oh she forgot everything to begin with
 
right, because of the first dark curse
everyone except rumple and regina had no memory
 
wait, when did she get pushed across the town line?
 
it looks like on the wiki, that after the curse is lifted, or rather magic is restored, the line still wipes your memory
 
2:37 PM
did that happen this season?
 
no, when owen showed up
s3
or maybe it was 2
 
@phantom42 going across the town line appears to do different things at different times, I believe. In S2/S3 I think it removed your memories unless you were protected somehow.
 
"From the opposite side of the town line, Belle promises to wait for him. Suddenly, a bullet ricochets into her shoulder from behind. She falls over the border into Mr. Gold's arms and loses her memories as Hook is revealed to be the shooter. In an amnesiac state, Belle doesn't recognize her own name when Mr. Gold calls her, and witnesses him conjuring a fireball just as a car crashes into town. ("The Outsider")"
 
Rumple took something with him across the town line that protected him.
but she got her memories back somehow. I forgot about that.
but I think something happens this season where they shove one of the dwarves across the town line and something different happens.
 
right, but now in s4, he goes across and remembers everything.
 
2:39 PM
thats when gold had that shawl and potion to walk across the line
 
I'm way behind, Dark Emma annoyed me so much I stopped watching.
 
and i got the impression that robin remembered stuff when he goes across too
they lose magic, but apparently retain memories now
 
I think when Regina undid the First Curse that changed the town line.
 
belle loosing her memories seems to be between curse 1 and 2
magic and memories came back after breaking curse 1
but the border stayed intact
 
yeah but after the peter pan indicent, Regina un-cast the curse, undoing all of it and sending everyone back to fairyland.
I think after that the town border didn't act the same anymore.
remember Hook came to NY to find Emma?
 
2:43 PM
probably i never finished the pan arc
pan pissed me off
 
yeah.
 
pan pisses everyone off
 
he's coming back you know
he's merlin
 
i keep trying to forget
oh hell.
 
they are definitely running out of storylines.
 
2:44 PM
cruella + co just came into storybrooke
 
to find the author?
 
pan = merlin?
 
no, i made that up.
 
that show needs to wrap up
lol
 
thank god.
 
2:45 PM
mr. gold: "don't tell anyone i'm back. it has to be a secret. let's talk about this as we walk down the middle of main street"
yes, to find the author
 
the whole author stuff was weird too
 
@phantom42 mr. gold decides now is the right time to find the guy who wrote the book that Henry carried around for 10 years without knowing anything about it.
 
i thought you said you didnt watch past pan?
 
my wife is moer current, so i see snipets of more recent stuff and its all weird.
 
ah
 
2:46 PM
don't worry.
 
i see some pen and ink that write reality
 
@MikeEdenfield wait.. 10?
 
the resolution of that plot line is exactly as stupid as you think it will be.
 
i thought it was like.. 1
 
@phantom42 just guessing.
I thought he had it for a while, though.
 
2:47 PM
henry ages, and is only like 10 when he finds emma
 
hes only supposed to be 10 when the show starts?
 
yeah but I thought mary margaret gave it to him when he was little?
 
no, in the flashback, he's roughly the same age
 
they never explain how the hell she got it
 
granted, emma looks the same at 18 as 28, but like a completely different person at 15
 
2:48 PM
but it's ok. Once you find out who the author is, it will make even less sense.
 
yeah, they just say "the book just appeared when it was needed"
 
its so weird how people let stories just run away from them like that
i watched the gilmore girls with my wife, and the last season i guess the writter quit, so some rando's made a 22 episode season, that makes 0 sense, just because they already had a slotted show for that year >.<
 
18 years ago. so emma should be like 10-12 as of season 3.
 
but you can see how they like to stretch stuff to get every char they can in, mulan didnt make sense at all in once upon a time.
 
emma 18 years ago, supposedly aged 10-12.
 
2:53 PM
thats a like 15-18 year old
 
same actress is used for the 15 year old
but jennifer morrison plays the 18 year old
 
to be fair jennifer morrison probably looked the same at 18-19 as she does now
minus some wrinkles
those holly wood type look the same for 30 years starting at 16
 
im glad you linked that
but it checks out
:P
 
unfortunately, the same does not seem to be holding true for us asian guys
@MikeEdenfield as this show goes on, i'm not sure anything makes sense.
 
3:02 PM
white people age boringly
 
3:15 PM
@Himarm It's true. We just slowly begin to sag.
 
everything just falls apart
 
@Himarm If you sped the process up, it would look like we were melting.
 
3:37 PM
So watching True Blood ep1 season 4
changed a lot
 
@Himarm The network fired the creator/showrunner, who also did the bulk of the writing work.
Here's hoping the Netflix revival is a return to form. Amy Sherman-Palladino's (the showrunner) last show was pretty good, but was canceled after a season.
 
@Keen worst case, we can just delete the tags, let it get cleaned up and then create the new tag
thankfully, there's only 5 questions on with it now
(or you know, just not bother creating the new one)
 
@phantom42 Already asked a CM about it, and turned the meta post into a bug report. >_>
there is a bug there, so it helps to document it as such, at the very least
 
@phantom42 As much as I love Fett, he's a borderline case for a character tag. I'd say just get rid of it.
 
@Null since i generally dislike character tags, that's my vote as well. but he fulfills the criteria we largely agreed upon. he's got his own solo works, and there are people who might be experts on him. i wouldn't vote against nuking it, but its existence doesn't upset me as much as some others.
 
3:52 PM
@phantom42 Agreed.
 
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Q: In what year did the first Imperial-class Star Destroyers enter service?

NullWhen the Galactic Empire was created at the end of the Clone Wars, the Star Destroyer design in service at the time was the Venator-class: The Venator-class Star Destroyer was later phased out by the larger Imperial-class Star Destroyer: In what year did the first Imperial-class Star Destro...

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Q: How does Leia Organa know carbon freezing causes hibernation sickness?

Paul OmansIn the Star Wars universe, there exists a carbon freezing process that has been used before to transport frozen gas over long distances. In Cloud City, the carbon freezing process is used for the first time to encase a living person in suspended hibernation. When Leia rescues Han Solo from his ...

 
@phantom42 He did do that Solo work.
haha
 
@Keen glad someone got it
oooh a groupon to see quiet riot and dokken for only $5
 
4:12 PM
@phantom42 Hey, what happened exactly when you tried to propose the bobafett synonym?
 
@Keen i didnt try to do a synonym. i tried removing the old one and replacing it with a new one
 
latest 15 you say? then those three have scrolled out, I can bump another three
 
@phantom42 If you can, add what you tried, and what issue you had to that meta question. I outlined what I attempted to do. I think it failed not because of that linked bug, but due to a synonym being in place.
 
done. now I have to wait for another 15 other activities.
One more question I still have to tag: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/67563/4918
 
4:21 PM
@Keen done
 
thx
 
4:32 PM
@Keen yeah my wifes excited for the new season of Gilmore girls, that last season really put me off, so i hope she can salvage the train wreck others wrought.
 
4:48 PM
quick question: are we just leaving the old room locked and moving here? Should I pull WOPR over here?
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0
Q: Is Green Lantern faster than Flash and Superman?

Vanja VasiljevicI am having a dilemma... Flash and Superman are supposed to be fastest superheros in DC universe but I think Green Lantern should be faster than them, and I mean a lot faster. I did some digging and according to Green Lantern Wiki his Flight is about Mach 10 and 80% of light speed in space... ...

 
shog said it was a temporary thing. what we do after the temporary thing ends has not been agreed upon
> The moderators and room owners will sort out the locked-room situation next week (the freeze is temporary).
@Obie GL can go 80% of light speed. great. flash can go faster than light
 
he actually covers that in the question..
From the Green Lantern Wiki:
> Flight is possible at velocities exceeding light speed.
 
@MikeEdenfield uh... isn't flight possible well below light speed?
 
@phantom42 This. We're still working on it. The Meta posts have helped. It's no longer the weekend, so the CMs and mods ideally have more time to dig into the issues.
 
4:58 PM
@ryan obviously not. have you ever seen anything fly?
i've only ever seen things falling with style
 
I'm not pushing for any particular resolution, I don't care what the name or room # of the room is as long as there's people in it.
I'm just wondering if we anticipate being in this room beyond the end of the day or so
 

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