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12:01 AM

@Ixrec Even in final year I had Professional Issues in Computing, they made us write a blog. Such a useless waste of time, granted they taught about ethics but to most people it was common sense. I didn't attend a single lecture.

I remember one of the electives available for comp sci was an Ethics course, I ended up not going for that one because I was afraid it'd turn out like that

(We also already had ethics stuff in second year) >.>

It was our only mandatory module.

thankfully it was only 1 semester long, although students who couldn't meet the standards of other modules took it for an extra semester as an "easy first"

(first being the highest awarded named grade (70-100% bracket) at UK universities)

my girlfriend has filled me in on how UK grading works

two-ones and all that

3 2:2 2:1 1

Not sure why we don't stick with letters or just percentages...

me neither

I'm fine with a distinction between coarse grades and fine grades, e.g. percentages are meaningful on a test where you can get one problem wrong instead of two, while for a whole class a 90% versus a 91% means basically nothing

but for the coarse scale A-F seems much more intuitive than 3-1 with the 2 split in half

12:07 AM

the UK should just start awarding everyone OWL levels.

Dude

NEWTS at Uni

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@MikeEdenfield I agree. The teenagers entering college would greatly benefit from it.

Wait, do newts have different grades?

Nevermind I was being dumb.

someone once pointed out to me that the OWL and NEWT scales feel immediately familiar to anyone who's been through the UK system, unlike us US kids; that was a moment of enlightenment for me

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For me, it's mostly a waste of time. The only part I cared for was the resume writing assignment, but I could have got that from them without the class

12:08 AM

which, by the way, is much funnier once you know that UK used to award students O-levels when they graduated

Ugh. Are we talking about terrible college classes now?

partially

a few minutes ago I was talking about Star Wars changes

@MikeEdenfield O-Levels were 16 year old graduation grades

now it's grading scales

@CandiedMango yeah, basically the equivalent of our high-school diploma, I believe

except one per class?

12:10 AM

I hate the education system, both primary and college

I thought you left High school at 18?

You can get two grades per class

you leave high-school after 12 years of school; most people are 17-18 when that happens.

For example, I took double award science so got AA, although I'm pretty sure almost eveyrone did

i was 17 because i have a really late birthday so they technically stuck me in school a year early

Alcoholics anonymous?

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12:12 AM

Worst part is that this 12-years of education can be done in a considerably shorter timeframe

16-18 We gain more qualifications, we call it college or sixth-form and they are A-level grades. Then 18-2X is University.

Anything after 16 is optional though

@CreationEdge - for sure

@CreationEdge there were a few years in high school where in math classes I kept being one year ahead of the curriculum because I got so bored I read the next textbook to kill time >_>

Most college degrees too

@CandiedMango do they let really smart kids skip grades?

12:14 AM

@Ixrec I did the same, but instead I just goofed off.

over here you occasionally hear about someone going into college at 14 or 15 because they skipped most of high school.

i contend that it's never a good idea, but some people do it

@MikeEdenfield I considered asking about that possibility but eventually decided against it

instead I threw my free time at totally unrelated pursuits

like teaching myself Japanese and translating visual novels

AFAIK You can't skip up levels for being too smart here.

these days if you're smart enough to skip grades your parents would probably home school you until you're old enough for college

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Q: Why do the ellipses in Star Wars have four dots?

All of the Star Wars movies, and many of the EU works, feature an opening similar to this one. However, generally, ellipses have only three dots, as confirmed by Wikipedia: Ellipse... is a series of dots (typically three, such as "…") Is there some creative reason Lucas chose to have fou...

star-wars george-lucas

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12:15 AM

Vote to migrate to ELU?

lol

it's on-topic.

If I had the time to home school when I had children I probably would.

so, no migration needed

@mikeedenfield - I had a couple friends who did that. I probably could have skipped senior year but I made that known too late

12:17 AM

I don't understand the structure of education nowadays so much wasted time.

feel free to leave a comment for the OP pointing them at ELU for more/better details, if you'd like

@candiedmango - homeschooling is in my opinion a great system most of the time

the problem with homeschooling is when you get terrible teachers there's nothing your parents can do about it. :)

@SSumner Depends on the home teacher.

@candiedmango - true, you can't have the lazy do nothings teaching or you'd be worse off than a bad school

12:20 AM

It's also a pretty huge chunk of time if you home school.

Yeah one parent needs to be stay at home

Which is actually quite rare in the UK (I presume it is more common in the US considering how much of a trope it is in US tv shows)

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@MikeEdenfield Did that. Unfortunately it's getting a lot of low-quality answers that don't actually address the on-topic question :/

if it's getting bad answers we can protect it.

There's one solid answer

12:23 AM

did it hit the HNQ?

I'd say probably more rare than perceived from TV but more common than a lot of other countries

also, only 1 of those bad answers is from a new user so protecting it probably won't help either.

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You have to wait a day to protect it though, right?

When do you get the ability to protect?

i forget.

15k, and yeah it takes a day.

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12:28 AM

15?

15,000

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That seems so high, wow. Didn't realize it.

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I'm mixing up beta privileges again.

Yeah I get them mixed up too because most of my time other than sci-fi was spent on beta sitea

Someone here with edit privilege who could improve on scifi.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/68543 by removing the first comma in the image description?

(It’s not actually in the screenshot.)

12:35 AM

@chirlu Done.

Thanks.

No problem! :)

Alot of home schooled kids these days go to Co-ops' where other home schooled kids and parents get together so the parents that specialize in things can better teach the kids.

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Are we going to have "Why wasn't this character placed in this house?" questions for every character now?

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Q: Why weren't Fred and George Weasley Placed in Ravenclaw?

Yes, you read that right. Fred and George are perhaps the most Ravenclaw characters in the entire series, and this is why: Relevant passages from the Ravenclaw welcome message (out of order for convenience, emphasis mine): Professor Flitwick: You’ll like our Head of house, Professor Filiu...

harry-potter sorting-hat

12:42 AM

@CreationEdge why didnt harry have his belly button peirced

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Q: Why weren't Fred and George Weasley Placed in Ravenclaw?

Yes, you read that right. Fred and George are perhaps the most Ravenclaw characters in the entire series, and this is why: Relevant passages from the Ravenclaw welcome message (out of order for convenience, emphasis mine): Professor Flitwick: You’ll like our Head of house, Professor Filiu...

harry-potter sorting-hat

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@Himarm Is this a joke opener, or just being facetious?

@CreationEdge new question, working it up now

i expect all of the upvotes

was dumbledore secretly a time traveling robot time lord?

@Ixrec you have my upvote

12:46 AM

Why was Dumbledore a Gryffindor?

(actually a valid question all things considered)

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ARGH, no

I won't because it's too opinion based

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The answer is "BECAUSE THE SORTING HAT DECIDED"

Which is why I have voted to close the Fred and George one

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Q: Bad Makeup ATCU chief in SHIELD

Do they deliberately make the chief of ATCU appear more geeky in having bad make-up, or is it because the actress has too much facial flaw that ABC make-up artists actually have insufficient make-up experience to cover up the flaws?

agents-of-shield makeup

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12:56 AM

@CandiedMango Seconded. Mostly because the OP's position is purely opinion-based. We're not given any clear indicators in the books that they would have been anything else.

Mainly for this paragraph from OP actually

So, except for the good old "they are Weasleys and Weasleys are Gryffindors", why aren't they in Ravenclaw? It is obviously the best fit for them, and they would have done better in Ravenclaw, where they could have been around other people who are creative. All in all, did the sorting hat drop the hat on this one?

Ahhh I see the posting bot has actually been renamed to obie

How do you know that in Ravenclaw they would have grown in the same way?

@SSumner Indeed I think Rand did it :)

There's also Meta Obie

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Well, off to the store.

@CreationEdge Get me a(n) /insert American chocolate here/

1:12 AM

Morning all!

It's almost afternoon for you!

was robin hood in storybrooke for the first curse in once upon a time? it was my impression that he was not.

other things that make no sense: ingrid's timeline of when she left arandelle/came to earth

@CandiedMango Hey - I still have another 12 minutes of morning left!

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@CandiedMango What's a UK chocolate they don't have in the US?

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I know they exist, but am understandably unfamiliar

1:23 AM

I think most of Cadbury's stuff doesn't have a direct equivalent, though some of them get exported

I can't recall ever seeing a Milk Tray in the states at least

Galaxy?

Yorkie

honestly it's hard to think of chocolates that I remember having in both countries

when American stuff shows up here it's on the imports shelf

Yeah, Hersheys is awful, however you spell it.

everyone in the UK says that

it's practically genetic

I thought in the UK everything was sweeter? or something.

You have a way better selection of M&Ms though

1:29 AM

lol

What other imports did i try? Oh, they were cookie dough balls but that's not chocolate.

I still like Hershey's no matter what anyone says

but the stuff here is just as good, sometimes better

@TheDoc Not anymore ;)

@CandiedMango You're 4 minutes late ;)

@phantom42 I can't remember if he was. He should have been though

@phantom42 Why doesn't the timeline work?

@CreationEdge I really don't know enough USA chocolate to say. We have Terrys Chocolate Orange, Galaxy, Dairy Milk(Cadbury), Yorkie, Club, Timeout,

loadsssssssssss

@TheDoc Still accurate though! ;)

1:37 AM

@CandiedMango True that!

there was a similar Chocolate Orange thing in the US, different brand, don't recall any difference in taste

ug i hate orange flavored chocolate

I like it

actually I feel like the UK chocolate orange melts more quickly

i really like Lidnt Chocolate

must be some chemical we use in the US that the british people aren't as comfortable with

yes, Lindt is good

1:39 AM

Lindt is delicious

I presume you guys have Ferrero Rocher

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I've seen it but always assumed it was out of my snobbiness range

^ mah fave

ferrero rocher is decent

ive got a toblerone next to me right now om nom

Yorkie is my fave

i cant remember why but i guess they pulled all british candies from the US

have they revoked that yet

i worked at a grocery story for a while in highschool and we had an extensive aisle of british/foreign sweets. one of the biggest aisle's ive seen anywhere in the US it was at least a 40-50 foot aisle.

i went through and tried as many as i could, i like to be cultured :P

2:12 AM

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Q: Why was the necklace plot necessary?

Why was it necessary for Lady Olena, Peter Baelesh and Ser Dontos to conspire together to give Sansa a necklace containing poison? Given that Lady Olena was essentially just pouring poison in to Joffrey's drink - couldn't she have just had the poison kept in her handbag or something? Why to t...

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2:26 AM

Toblerone and Zero bars are awesome

@himarm yeah they did pull a lot of foreign candy for some reason but I can't remember what. I saw an article about it awhile ago

Ferro rocher is overrated IMO

i think american chocolate companies had something to do with it

I dunno they are good, they aren't worth their normal prices only when they are on offer.

@himarm - maybe. Darn crony capitalism

@candiedmango - yeah definitely

@CandiedMango Nope, I think it was Loong.

@SSumner Same as Lindt though that's crazy expensive.

@randal'thor Ah yes, it was, now I remember.

Also, GO TO BED!

2:30 AM

@CandiedMango You're not the boss of me :-)

what time is it uk, 4?

@randal'thor Damn you whipper snappers and your disobedience.

2:31am

Richard is officially a superhuman.

Is he still repcapping?

How can he repcap with 315 points in a day without doing anything?!?!

2:32 AM

LOLLOL

he must has many socks

confirmation is real

Maybe I'll go back to posting after all. I can try to earn exactly the same amount this week as Richard does - posting bounties if necessary.

I'll probably overtake Wad, but he doesn't care anyway.

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tomorrow i got some good posts

so just chill for the next 5 days

How do you know he's capping if he has no rep btw?

@Himarm You mean good questions?

@CandiedMango You can still see his daily gains: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/20774/richard

ive had alot of possitive about my old cartoon questions

2:36 AM

Stars are strange.

He passively makes more rep than i do actively.

its weird my dexters lab and powerpuff questions either get +10 or like +2

Post Dragonball questions so I can get the Tag Badge

>:D

@Himarm HNQ, man. HNQ. It's all about HNQ.

ive been answering most DBZ questions for the last year!

2:40 AM

AND NOW THERE'S ME!

i try to answer most of the anime questions

I only know DB

im current on the top 5 major animes, and ive seen most of the old tops

bleech, onepiece, fairytail, nisekoi, full metal alchameist, trigun, 7 deadly sins, girls the wild, runemaster, dbz, ect

i keep up

:P

current on the manga's*

Hang on. How is raiders-of-the-lost-ark on topic?

It's not SFF

its a fantasy reprentation, of christianity

so its on topic

real questions about the ark of the covenent would be off topic

2:43 AM

But it's not fantasy!

but this ark has features that arnt biblical. so its fantasy.

What fantasy elements are there?

a magical chest that kills people ?

what part of that isnt fantasy

This discussion has been had before

Is there a meta about it?

2:44 AM

I believe even Monica Cellio came into the room and said it was on-topic here

Nah just chat stuff about a particular question

It probably comes up everytime....

What's her authority on SFF??

She's not a CM, is she?

movies that have religion in them, typically fall into fantasy

I believe she's a mod of one of the religious SEs

@Himarm There's definitely a meta to say religion is off-topic.

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Q: Should we exclude religious texts, and which?

It's clear that questions about religious texts cause friction. So should we ban questions that are specifically about religious texts? If so, how wide should the ban be: only about the Bible (which is what generates the most contention), or more general? Note that we must not overreach — we're n...

discussion scope site-faq

herculese the myth is off topic, herculese in amovie is on topic

thats what meta says

2:48 AM

hmm?

I've just been supplied with the relevant quote:

in Mos Eisley, Oct 28 at 2:49, by Monica Cellio

@Pureferret hi. Sorry for the delay; I was in an all-day meeting and then on a plane. A question about what the bible says would happen to people who touch/move/do other things to the ark of the covenant is on-topic on Mi Yodeya. Before migrating it should be edited to clarify what "mess with" means, and if the characters in the title of the question are relevant, something should be added about what happened to them. (i.e. don't assume familiarity with SF.)

And I helped!

i asked the other meta question about religion

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Q: Should myths be considered religions?

We have a lets shy away from direct religious questions on this site policy, which i think is good. However, where do we draw the line on what is religion and what is myth? The Greek gods, Roman gods, Norse gods, and Egyptian gods are all classified as myths when you search for them online, or in...

discussion mythology

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I think the Raiders thing is less about the ark/religion and more about how the genre of films like Indian Jones is usually considered off-topic, much like Bond/Spy films

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Q: Are works that aren't SF per se, but have occasional SFnal elements on-topic? (e.g. spy movies)

For example, spy stuff like James Bond, 24, Tom Clancy, have some elements of sci-fi, but are a genre unto themselves. Should we include them in the list of on topic discussions?

discussion faq scope

3:04 AM

its more like th eother indiana jones movies are on topics so they all are, more like the nolan series of batman

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@Himarm The others are? Why? I get Crystal Skull, because aliens, but the others?

the holy grail is not a real artifact, in main stream christianity

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I guess, maybe, they're all the same. Some minor supernatural element at the very end...

so that whole plot is fantasy

the stones from temple of doom and the heart magic

is all fantasy

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I don't remember the stones, just the ripping out hearts. But again, that's like a throwaway plot point, only at the very end of the movie.

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3:06 AM

If they're on topic, then barely, IMO.

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Bond movies have a lot of sci-fi tech, but are generally considered off-topic, IIRC

the point of the movies are about retrieve an object that is pure fantasy

all 4 movies

over and over hes like magic isnt real

and he sees magic

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That's the thing. For almost the entire movie, magic isn't real

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Then at the end we're given a "Haha, no, it is, just for the ending, and then next movie we'll act like it's not real, again"

sci-fi elements are different from sci-fi elements that drive the plot

temple of doom has magic from start to finish

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3:13 AM

Eh.

basically its the same reason tomb raider is on topic.

shes "searching" for the magical object, thats the plot

and why watership down is ontopics @DrRDizzle :p

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Yeah, but the fact that it's magical isn't the plot, until suddenly it is. They're just valuable artifacts that Jones wants to put in a museum.

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To him, the magic nature they end up having is incidental.

raiders of the lost ark, the reason the nazis are looking for the ark is for the magic

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Because historically Hitler was known to be into the supernatural. Not because the supernatural was real, but because Hitler thought it was.

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3:16 AM

They didn't know it would do anything, or what it would do if it did anything, otherwise we wouldn't have had melted Nazis.

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But there's enough there to make the argument, which does make it on topic, I agree.

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But, I would put most of the Mission Impossible movies in the same boat.

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Q: What type of economic system is practiced in Elysium and on earth? Explain your choice

HELP What type of economic system is practiced in Elysium and on earth? Explain your choice.

i like to argue they are on topic, but in reality they are close enough to current tech

MI, and Bond*

user132126

Hmm, that's an interesting discussion.

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3:23 AM

Does the sci-fi tech have to be reasonably more advanced then present-day technology?

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Because things like 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea were once very sci-fi, but now not so much.

exactly old bond was realistic to today

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Now, they might read more like historical fiction. Or does it depend on the time setting in the work, too?

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It feels so empty in here :(

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I hope everyone is just out having a good weekend

3:25 AM

its afun topic

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I think so.

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How do we actually define what's science fiction?

its usually something unfeasible for us.

and then it comes down to central plot point or not

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Yeah, but how's our definition for the site compare to the literary definition?

what ive seen is its come down to the whole topic vs the actual tech

which is why bond got kicked out

theirs a group of haters to fringe works

i join chat because of watership down lol

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3:35 AM

~~Fringe~~ Fringe is totally on topic ;)

people got caught up on anthropomorphic animals, instead of the other fantasy points

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I've never read Watership Down, so no idea what it's about

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This sounds like a homework question. — CreationEdge 19 mins ago

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its is bro any help please — Alexie Nayir 37 secs ago

its a about animals, an danthropomorphic animals doesnt make a work ontopic, however, people thought that anthropomorphic animals not making works on topic meant that it instantly made works offtopic

but the books themselves had plot driven fantasy elements, so i managed to get the question which was closed re-opened

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3:42 AM

So... Redwall wouldn't be on-topic?

redwall isnt on topic because of the animals,

its ontopic for the other fantasy elements

actually i dont know if anyone asked a redwall questions

theres almost no magic

the whole works may be offtopic

user132126

I haven't read them. Is there magic in them?

a couple do, other wise there a typical medieval fiction.

like robin hood(offtopic)

ive actually read all but the last 2 he wrote

Arthurian legend, On topic or off?

it depends on merlins/exaliber i think

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3:48 AM

Interesting....

i think gothem is off topic

i should post

as far as i know theirs 0 sci-fi elements

I thought we just absorbed all comic book stuff anywa

batmans not in it

It's related

its pure fiction work to set up for batman

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