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12:01 PM
Every time I write a private message to someone through forums or emails, why am I so careful and take a large amount of time thinking and perfecting my response?
 
Why is that an issue.
 
@mınxomaτ Inefficient use of time. It takes me on average 30min to write three sentences
 
Thinking is never an inefficient use of time.
 
True..
 
12:26 PM
he just beat the previous answer by over 2000x
 
12:45 PM
I'm not sure if I like the GOLF
I may have made it too powerful
 
? what do you mean?
 
too many registers, operations, etc
 
Maybe it’s been linked here, but: scottaaronson.com/busybeaver.pdf
> In most algorithmic study, efficiency is the primary concern. In designing [the Turing machine] Z, however, parsimony is the only thing that matters. One historical analogue is the practice of “code-golfing”: a recreational pursuit adopted by some programmers in which the goal is to produce a piece of code in a given programming language, using as few characters as possible.
 
Your guess is right (orlp posted a little earlier), but it's probably worth a repost cos it's cool :P
 
12:57 PM
We’re even cited!!
 
Actually... I'll go add that to the "we've been cited!" list
 
hmmm what is ? is it for infinitesimal asm sheets or that may affect big chunks of executable data ?
 
Well clicking the tag itself would give you the answer...
 
1:01 PM
0
Q: Sudoku Solver: Create an algorithm to solve basic sudoku puzzles

RarioluObviously it would be unreasonable to ask for code that could universally solve all sudoku puzzles. Therefore in this case I'm only asking for something which can solve fairly easy puzzles. To define "easy", the code should be able to (at least) solve the following puzzles as well as others...

0
Q: Tiling by substitution

jshConsider the following substitutions, where the substituted rhomb(us) is scaled up and shown in red: A rhomb ... becomes ... B rhomb ... becomes ... Each substitution is made up of some combination of A rhombs and B rhombs, on which the same substitutions can be performed. A tiling can...

 
Thank you @NewMainPosts.
 
i wonder if that would take effect with progs which require long time to finish
in range of minutes
 
@mınxomaτ I've never heard wagon used for passengers. I get the impression train enthusiasts call them cars, but the general public call them carriages. Labelling on the trains uses coach.
 
counting cycles of that type of programs is arround impossible
 
1:15 PM
@MartinBüttner can u reach solutions for any odd dimentions ?
 
@AnyoneWhoUsesMathematicaOrMatlab what are the most useful functions in Mathematica/MATLAB?
 
bsxfun for matlab
u didnt precise , useful in which context
 
Any
 
@orlp I had to Google that, but no. :P
 
@El'endiaStarman hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia ?
 
1:30 PM
@orlp "I had to Google that, but no."
 
@orlp Is that one fear of long words? [googles] Yes it iiiiisss....and no. :P
@zyabin101 Oy, don't speak for me.
 
this phrase needs to be golfed
 
@BassdropCumberwubwubwub Even in Benedict Cumberbatch's voice that's still annoying :P
 
This phrase needs golfing
Saved 5 bytes
 
golfing plz
golf plz
 
1:39 PM
golf?
 
#todo
 
befunge, 1 byte: .
 
@orlp need golf
sorry not meant to ping yu but using pointers saves buffers
 
4
A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

HohmannfanHQ9+ Factoid: HQ9+ is a joke programming language, invented by Cliff L. Biffle in 2001. It is a golfing language, that has a very small source code for the most common programming exercises, due to its small set of strategic built-ins. Length 1 Q HQ9+ has a very short quine. The Q built-in p...

o-o
 
1:43 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Reminds me of a guy I used to raid with in WoW. He was a Tauran fighter doing tanking, with a name "Healplzlol"
 
@Agawa001 yes we have solutions for all n from 6 to 26
 
@trichoplax ohai
monking
 
1:50 PM
^ that is something else too
 
@MartinBüttner , well for a moment i thought solutions are symmetrical
 
@MartinBüttner does this answer succeed where the other (deleted ones) fail?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Ohio
 
1:54 PM
Wales
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ as far as i can tell, but I'm not very familiar with knot theory. It does claim to implement a working algorithm from a paper though.
 
Any specific test cases that the others failed on?
 
Yeah, for instance "the culprit"
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Nobe42 Pass Hello world hello-world multi-language There you go, your first "Hello world" is displayed on your terminal. You think about your next step into becoming a wizard. You've heard about this fancy new programming language, but you're not sure you understand it perfectly. So you want to go...

 
2:05 PM
THE TERM IS "POLYGLOT" :<
 
Sigh. I like PowerShell, and it has some good built-ins that work great, but then there are some really obvious ones that are completely absent.
 
@KennyLau seriously, please stop posting comment "answers" on sandbox posts, it's really annoying.
 
Like Cartesian products ... used pretty often in testing, so it's not just a golfing thing, but I'd have to roll my own.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ This time it's showing a potential loophole...
 
And it doesn't help the sandbox post at all.
 
2:10 PM
@TimmyD JavaScript practically doesn't have any builtins
 
@KennyLau Yeah, but then point out the loophole. Don't post answers to it.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ well alright
 
@KennyLau what language is that?
Jelly?
 
no
 
2:13 PM
HQ9 doesn't count as a programming language by current consensus
 
Wardoq though... :/
(Damnit @Dennis)
 
And Seriously.
 
... shouldn't count imo
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ?
Seriously is a language, if that is what you are saying.
 
2:14 PM
oh okai
 
So \H works for pyth -> seriously -> warqdog :P
 
Hello, World! cannot be fed into wardoq afaik
 
@KennyLau But it can be fed into HQ9+ and derivatives
 
none of those are progamming languages
 
2:16 PM
And it prints Hello, World!.
 
@quartata Seriously?
 
the real problem is that you could infinitely chain pl in between pyth and seriously
 
Really wish I could kick CHIQRSX9+ and co. off the planet
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ CJam?
 
2:18 PM
I don't know what challenge rhis is for but probably should mention you can only use a language once
 
@quartata You can infinitely chain chai^ne with itself
 
@quartata ....
 
@quartata that's a good idea
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I thought is was chaîne?
copy paste ples
 
it is :P
Mini challenge: compute 2^n without math
 
2:21 PM
2^n
uses no math only math
 
without math :P
 
then VTCed as unclear for definition of "math"
> no math
can i do 2*2*2*2*2?
ohai @BassdropCumberwubwubwub
 
oh ahit wait a second this is a constant output challenge
 
you are bas, right?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Hi, yes
 
2:22 PM
non programming languages are allowed
oh boy it's quine pig time
 
yeah look on meta
 
@quartata ?
 
Dangit, I can't seem to find that challenge where you had to count up to like 16, printing out the source code for the next iteration, but then needed to print STOP when 16 was reached.
Can anyone remember more details so I can find it?
 
2:24 PM
oh, that one
 
brb finding my answer to it
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Q: Print 1 to 15, using different printers

Stewie GriffinMaking a versatile integer printer is nice and all, but writing a single code that prints a lot of different numbers is cumbersome. Wouldn't it be easier to make a script that outputs a number, but also gives you a new script to get the next number? Challenge: Write a code that outputs a single...

 
(it's amazing how many questions have "stop" in the challenge ... lol)
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yes, thank-you!
 
@MarsUltor one of the more obscure meta rulings is that languages that do not meet our definition of a programming language are allowed in constant output challenges
ooh even better deadfish~ time
mwahaahahaha
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Oh, ahahahaha ... I even answered that one ... :-/
 
2:29 PM
@TimmyD batch beat you. :P
 
holy shit
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A: Print 1 to 15, using different printers

flawrJavaScript, 131238 - 10 = 131228 bytes The naive approach turned out worse than expected. In hindsight I should have expected it. But I thought I'd share it anyway. Full code here. Idea: Iteratively escaping and adding the N-1, ... alert("14,alert(\"15, alert(\\\"STOP!\\\")\")")

 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE IRC should be up, yeah. Works right now, anyway. I had some issues earlier, but I was putting that down to my school network blocking the standard IRC port.
 
Yeah, quines in PowerShell are hard because the only real way to do them is with the -f operator, which requires lengthy brackets {0} to re-insert variables.
 
0
Q: Find the remaining side of the tangential quadrilateral!

Kenny Lau(Taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tangential_quadrilateral.svg) A tangential quadrilateral (see example above) is a quadrilateral in which a circle can be inscribed. Your task is to find all the possible values of d given a, b, and c. Specs a, b, c will all be positive integers...

 
2:32 PM
lol, thank-you for the upvote on the "Print 1 to 15" challenge ... that bumped me over 5000 rep. :D
 
@TimmyD Congrats ^_^
@TimmyD I was secretly looking if I could downvote you to 4999 but to no avail
 
I'm thinking I can do Python -> goruby -> pl -> cat -> Chaine -> PHP -> /// -> Deadfish~ pretty easily. Probably can tack some more languges on the front though
Heck, I guess i can throw HTML in after slashes for good measure
 
@ArtOfCode Huh. I was using proxychains, irssi still didn't want to go through.
 
2:43 PM
@VTCAKAVSMoACE shrug
What happens if you try now? Maybe disable SSL?
 
@quartata I've been thinking about this, but I'm not sure whether Deadfish~ counts as a language either
 
@ArtOfCode I'm using IRSSI now, SSL won't be an issue.
 
@Downgoat @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ irkbot is now js.
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE I know not what that is
 
2:44 PM
@Sp3000 Doesn't natter. It's a constant output challenge so non programming languages are fair game
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yay
 
Huh, looks like someone's had a go at breaking into my server...
 
Is that how it works...
 
@ArtOfCode It's so I can use irc through an ssh connection.
@ArtOfCode Also, yes, that happens pretty frequently.
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE Oh. That doesn't sound very stable.
 
2:45 PM
It's actually very stable.
 
Didn't you once put a message to reprimand would-be attackers for your rpi ssh?
 
Ouch. They're determined if nothing else... auth.log says they've been at it since 0300 UTC.
 
@ArtOfCode Is there a Nickserv of some sort on the QPixel IRC?
If so, how can I identify myself?
 
@ArtOfCode Use fail2ban.
 
@zyabin101 No idea, you'd have to ask @quartata. I suspect not.
 
2:47 PM
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@quartata Is there a Nickserv of some sort on the QPixel IRC?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ;)
 
@ArtOfCode will you follow my suggestion?
Feb 7 at 17:15, by RikerW
Ooh, ssh back to them and rickroll them!!
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ can you join the slack bottesting channel? I need somebody to ping other than me.
 
@quartata How can I identify myself on the QPixel IRC? ~_~
 
2:51 PM
@zyabin101 I see your nickname
 
@ArtOfCode Okai.
 
what is the irc channel name?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ the irc channel? #qpixel
 
> irssi channel name
lel
 
on stage.artofcode.co.uk:6667
 
2:52 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ irssi irc
irssi is a client.
 
Hi @NewMainPosts
 
Hi @NewSandboxedPosts
 
Blimey. Over a thousand lines of failed login attempts.
 
@ArtOfCode I get about that much on a daily basis. :P
 
2:55 PM
@VTCAKAVSMoACE First one I've seen :P
 
@zyabin101 I'm making my own nickserv
 
To be fair, though, I do own 5 domain names that all point to the same place. >.>
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE that doesn't help... I've only got the one
 
Are three of them VTC.com VSM.com and ACE.com?
 
@Dennis ...no.
vtcakavsmoace.ml, vtcakavsmoace.gq, vtcakavsmoace.ga, vtcakavsmoace.cf, vtcakavsmoace.tk
 
2:56 PM
Well, reading through a thousand lines of auth log is not what I ssh'd in to do, so.
Back to it.
 
@ArtOfCode I have 3238 login attempts today.
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE Nice. I'm looking at about 500.
 
I'm installing Unreal Engine 4.
 
Looks like I'm getting a lot of port probing for hidden ssh ports.
 
IDK what I'm going to use it for, though.
 
3:00 PM
TIO got 2526 failed login attempts since May 1.
Um, regex fail. It's 7323.
 
Pluralization bug, really. I grepped for failure authentication failures.
I wonder how they choose which server to target. My mail server got 771 today.
 
Somebody tried to log in as "Darlington". :D
 
TIL Martin has gained 3093 rep from the mathematica showcase.
 
And "Stoke-on-trent"
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ O.O
 
3:04 PM
sorry + 15 for accepted.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not quite correct, due to repcaps
 
303 upvotes, 1 down, +50 bounty and +15 accepted.
@Sp3000 true
but still a lot
@VTCAKAVSMoACE ikr
 
It's probably a lot less. Upvotes usually happen en masse.
 
Can you guys help me understand how this answer is scored in bytes? I thought that one byte could only hold ASCII (256 characters), but this answer appears to be using characters that are not ASCII.
 
should " or ' be raw string?
 
3:08 PM
@ArtOfCode gives me:
08:07 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server stage.artofcode.co.uk:6667 port 6667
          [nodename nor servname provided, or not known]
 
@Rainbolt it looks like its using a different encoding, which means it has 256 characters in the encoding, but not necessarily ASCII
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Get rid of the :6667 bit.
 
@Rainbolt 05AB1E uses CP-1252
 
@NathanMerrill That makes sense
 
3:12 PM
@Quill oh, whoops :| try running npm install colors --save. I probably forgot to add that dependency to the package.json
@Quill update your node
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
 
...
too much hatred of python
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ s/hatred/rational dislike due to significantly flawed design decisions/
 
@Downgoat rejoin bottesting? i need somebody to ping
 
k
@Quill it works fine for me when I install it from Github so it's probably your node.
 
3:21 PM
It seems Puzzling.SE got their new design.
 
@PhiNotPi last time i tried ue4 was an absolute nightmare to build on Linux
 
@Zgarb Apparently so. Looks nice.
 
@quartata I'm putting it on Windows.
 
@EVERYONE come to the blog!!!
Alexa Scordato on May 4, 2016
The Stack Overflow team is beyond excited to welcome Adrianna Burrows as Stack Overflow’s new Chief Marketing Officer. She’s an industry veteran of everything from global product launches to partner development and she is as laser focused as we are about empowering developers.
 
Latest xkcd is absolutely hilarious :D "non-breaking snakes"
 
3:27 PM
@Downgoat it worked fine besides the colors dependency
I was probably running the wrong repl file as well
 
@El'endiaStarman This is nice
 
@zyabin101 Why do you always post the obvious. We all see the sidebar.
 
@mınxomaτ Ikr.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ link me?
 
But I might as well post it here.
 
3:32 PM
@Quill what does process.umask do?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ... go to slack and click channels?
 
@Quill do you know why 0777 is not interpreted as 777 in node?
 
Because 0 wants to be interpreted as octal or something, right?
 
O_o
 
3:36 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ @ school :P I need a link
@Downgoat It's an octal identifier
 
...
wat;
why
 
@Doorknob brb, making challenge
 
Remnant from older JavaScript
It's even present in most browsers today. In IE, 032 === 26.
 
wtf
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ In Chrome 52, 032 === 26. It's not just IE.
 
3:42 PM
most browsers today
 
sssshhhhh
 
It's just a notation ... like + will cast to an int, or 0x will cast as hexadecimal
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I wish to try making Slack bots, too... but I'm not contributing to Cheddar... ;_;
 
3:45 PM
Hah ... here are all these less-than-10-byte entries, and PowerShell just chugging along happily at 41
 
@TimmyD :O which less-than-10-byte entries?
 
brb reciting french
 
@zyabin101 On the tangential-quadrilateral challenge
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ bai
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Bonne chance à réciter le français! Au revoir! ^_^
 
3:49 PM
maybe I'm a bit late, but puzzling got their design
 
@NathanMerrill Ikr.
 
@zyabin101 merci! je fais bonne.
 
@Downgoat It's more than a remnant from JS, it's a remnant from the early years of programming.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think that 032 == 26 in all browsers.
>> 032 == 26
<= true
 
And QPixel is now on the list of Stack Exchange clones.
 
3:53 PM
@ArtOfCode Link?
 
572
A: Stack Exchange clones

MatMost active that look like the best bets AnswerHub: Java. Live site. Enterprise Q&A by the people who created OSQA. Not free. ASKBOT: Python/Django hosting, code, documentation, import data. GPLv3. Biostars: Python, Django. Biostars Live site, Neurostars Live site MIT license Confluence Questio...

 
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China-made "english" spec sheets are hilarious.
 
30 Watt camera, huh?
 
@quartata - since you've contributed code I need to ask you this now - I'm about to put a license on QPixel. Any particular objections to MIT?
 
FRUITW'd /o\
@ArtOfCode MIT.
 
3:55 PM
Yes, MIT.
 
@TimmyD Might help with Skype meetings. My image quality is always so quiet.
 
@mınxomaτ smh, all good cameras have a 128GB battery
 
Just put MIT on it. :)
 
@zyabin101 Can't without quartata saying 'kay to it.
 
3:56 PM
@ArtOfCode And one other user.
 
Eh? Who?
 
@mınxomaτ is our local law expert, I think.
 
@Downgoat That one I could understand, if they have different size batteries for the different models.
 
Heh. Did I ever tell you which site I mod?
 
3:56 PM
But any user goes, if they wish QPixel with MIT.
 
And?
 
and open source.
 
that's the one
 
OS.
 
@zyabin101 I think it doesn't work/errors in "use strict";
 
3:57 PM
ninja'd
 
licensing I can do :)
 
can't do much else legal, but that I can
 
have fun licensing
 
3:58 PM
bai!
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ dw?
(Doing what?)
 
@zyabin101 Oh, I just need quartata's permission because he's contributed code, and I can't just go around licensing other people's code. MIT is the license of choice, but quartata still needs to say yea or nay.
 
@ArtOfCode QPaysTaxes != quartata
 
@zyabin101 I abbreviate :)
 
QPixel = Quartata's Pixely Inedible Xenophilic Egregious Lair
 
3:59 PM
This is code golf, after all.
 

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