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WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:00 AM

Or maybe it's 50k, I don't care about money.

Edity

Terrance and Owen is gone?!?

Zacharee1

@TheXed this question is way OT askubuntu.com/review/close/633712

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I didn't say they were "gone".

Edity

i'm blind :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

But yeah it's kind of like a "Who is John Galt" moment from "Atlas Shrugged" movie trilogy.

IanC

12:18 AM

@Serg why exec gnome-terminal -e bash instead of just exec bash?

TheXed

@Zacharee1 why is it ot?

Zacharee1

@TheXed "any Linux distro"

Serg

@IanC because you won't see anything if you just exec bash. Shell will run but without any terminal attached to it

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I don't know what cigarettes cost in your country but here in Canada they are $115 per carton. Some nazi fascist tolatarium deep-state hidden regime sets the prices and Canadians aren't allowed to vote in a referendum. Sorry watching US elections review and getting frustrated about everything just now.

IanC

@Serg makes sense, I never notices it because I usually call bash from a terminal :p

let me try it on the custom shortcut now, maybe that's what was wrong with the shortcut after all

calling sh or bash without a gnome-terminal

it worked!!!

thanks @Serg

perfect, you guys have any way of separating the stuff you add on /bin from the stuff that is installed? I thought about changing the owner to the my user instead of having it root:root, but I'm wondering that might not be the best solution

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:41 AM

@IanC if your user ID is the only one with root privileges I don't see the point.

TheXed

@Zacharee1 which means it still applies to Ubuntu?

IanC

@WinEunuuchs2Unix my user doesn't have UID 0, it has root permissions through sudo. The point was just to have a quick way to see which scripts/binaries on /bin were added manually by me. So when I typed `ll` there would be a bunch of files with owner:
root:root

and then the ones added manually would have
user:user

Zacharee1

@TheXed OP doesn't seem interested in getting Ubuntu to work, rather finding out what the problem is, which is unrelated to Ubuntu.

TheXed

Fair enough.

Serg

@IanC what do you mean ? stuff that's installed ? as installed from PPA ?

IanC

12:47 AM

@Serg yeah, know which ones were added through apt/apt-get or by source code and which one were scripts/binaries added manually by you (just in case I forget in some time)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@IanC my User ID is 1000, systemd is 1, I have no clue what root's number is or indeed who root even is.

Serg

@IanC there's no real / systematic way to do it. You could look in apt logs, to see what was installed and on what day. You can use grep 'package-name' /var/apt/history.log , but keep in mind those logs are rotated , so eventually that info will be lost

IanC

@WinEunuuchs2Unix roots UID is 0, on ubuntu the users with root privileges actually are not root users, they use sudo as an interface to run commands as root

@Serg for now I'll keep using this small trick of changing the owner from root:root to user:user on the ones I add then, I think about something later

maybe I'll do an app to control the programs I install? including the ones I write :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@IanC if some guy walks up to me and says "I am root I'm taking control of your personal laptop" I'll say "This isn't Guardians of the Galaxy movie, get out of here you over-grown tree!"

Zacharee1

That's Groot...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:57 AM

yeah I know... artistic licences :)

you must admit it sounded good :D

IanC

lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I need five points to reach 3456 rep... sings "Uh uh oh it's magic you know, never believe it's not so"

Holy crapoli I just made 70 points in 2 minutes and missed seeing 3456!

TheXed

1:12 AM

lol

Scandolus...

now you are going to have to wait for 4567

WinEunuuchs2Unix

pffttt... you guys are up-voting me to mess with my mind.... thanks but I'd rather earn the points honestly.

TheXed

who was upvoting?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I don't have powers yet to see up-voters

Serg

sigh . . . .maybe one day I won't have to beat my head against the wall and try to answer the question "Why am I doing this crap?"

TheXed

I am to busy making a photo book to be upvoting people

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:15 AM

@Serg because shit flows down hill and you are at the bottom of the EE ladder :D

Serg

^ looks like it

@TheXed same here, busy trying to figure out how to do root locus sketch for control systems

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Is a photo book like a facebook?

TheXed

No, on shutterfly.com

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Oh I used the EnhanceIO HDD to SSD software before based on FlashCache that Facebook used to use.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I don't even know what that is supposed to mean.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:19 AM

500 GB slow HDD, 30GB fast mSATA (read SSD)... you cache Ubuntu, Chrome, frequently used programs and Data to 30GB... it worked great for a year until I bricked Intel RST which held Windwos 7 on the same mSATA caching the same 500GB HDDD.

TheXed

Why did you brick it?

Serg

@Zacharee1 how about we trade places ? you go do control systems, i go sort all the merges and do java ?

Zacharee1

nahh

Serg

dangit

WinEunuuchs2Unix

One day I forgot to decelerate Windows which was using 19GB of the 30GB before doing something with grub... Can't remember now 18 months later exactly how. Anyway moral of the story is don't put Windows and Ubuntu on the same HDD in different partitions and caches them to the same SSD in different partitions.

Serg

1:23 AM

git dang

git dang --hard

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg PLC is where it's all at! stay with it young man.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

question. how do you get the firmware for b43 module?

My info:

02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312] (rev 01)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@DmitryKudriavtsev Broadcom and B43 stuff is like every second question in AU, you can't miss it.

Serg

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Studied those too. We played with one of Rockwell's PLC, can't recall the model though. PLC are fairly easy, it's just boolean logic throughout

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

oh ok found it

fwcutter huh?

Serg

1:27 AM

@DmitryKudriavtsev run lshw -c network

it will say driver

WinEunuuchs2Unix

fwcutter? sounds like a swear word

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

zsh: command not found: lshw

Serg

@DmitryKudriavtsev ah, wait , you're using bsd aren't you ?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

no

linux

Serg

Ok, so . . . that's not normal. lshw is standard command on any Linux

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:29 AM

dmitry@DmitryE6410: ~ % uname -a
Linux DmitryE6410 4.8.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Oct 17 08:11:46 CEST 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Serg

that doesn't tell much, only kernel version

WinEunuuchs2Unix

an Arch user.... shrieks and runs

TheXed

is there a way to get nautilus to show a preview of jpgs?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

 dmitry@DmitryE6410: ~ % lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 05)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 05)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed you mean like thumbnails of j pegs?

TheXed

1:31 AM

Yes

exactly that

Serg

@DmitryKudriavtsev install lshw and save yourself from trouble

WinEunuuchs2Unix

of course there is, I just don't know how.

Serg

Also, uname -a isn't telling OS , it only tells kernel version

normal way to do it is cat /etc/os-release

WinEunuuchs2Unix

use 'uname -r' for OS

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

TheXed

1:32 AM

Oh I see...

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

what next?

Serg

@WinEunuuchs2Unix uname -r is kernel release

and it is in man page by the way

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix because I am looking at pictures on a NAS, I have to enable thumbnails for remote locations...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Serg thanks for reminder... what about lsb-release?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

Serg

1:33 AM

@DmitryKudriavtsev good ! That's proper . Now once you have lshw installed, do lshw -c network

  *-network
       description: Wireless interface
       product: QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
       vendor: Qualcomm Atheros
       physical id: 0
       bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
       logical name: wlan7
       version: 01
       serial: d0:53:49:3d:53:fd
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical wireless
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath9k driverversion=4.4.0-31-generic firmware=N/A ip=192.168.0.78 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

woops, forgot to run as root

  *-network
       description: Ethernet interface
       product: 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 19
       bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0
       logical name: enp0s25
       version: 05
       serial: 5c:26:0a:2a:81:10
       capacity: 1Gbit/s
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=3.2.6-k firmware=0.12-1 latency=0 link=no multicast…

Serg

driver=e1000e

@DmitryKudriavtsev also , please don't post images. It's just text and easier to read for people if you copy it directly. Thank you

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

sorry :(

Serg

you're OK :)

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

It was a bit easier for me

TheXed

1:35 AM

Did someone just ping me?

Serg

no, at least wasn't me . . .

TheXed

Oh my computer made the pint noise...

odd...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@DmitryKudriavtsev you look like 12 years old. Don't you like the way Vladmir Putin waits 7 days before saying something but Obama says something in 15 minutes and looks like an idiot 3 days later/

Oops so sorry , you're all grown up now... my bad!

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

wtf

TheXed

what is the age limit on this site anyways? 13?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:39 AM

Also I am in the USA and I don't follow politics

TheXed

I think that is what CIPA dictates...

Serg

And that's why you don't post pictures of yourself on the internet . . .

unless you want employment

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Owen Hines was 15 too and he was from Houston... before he dissappeared.

TheXed

(Children's Internet Protection Act)

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

changed it

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:40 AM

haha Serg only hookers post pictures for employment, the rest of us post our works.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

can someone get a mod to refresh it?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

what is "eleven"?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

oops

sorry inside joke on ppcg

TheXed

/me deletes facebook

WinEunuuchs2Unix

so eleven = refresh on ppcg?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:42 AM

no

TheXed

@DmitryKudriavtsev it will refresh over time.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

just general mod powers abuse

yeah I know, it just refreshes immediately if a moderator triggers something

TheXed

It might take some time because it is stuck in peoples cache...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TheXed must be the mod in disguise!

TheXed

well if @Seth would come out of his slumber...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:44 AM

I used to get @Seth and @Serg mixed up.... those four letter words starting with S

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

ok

Seth

speak of the devil.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

snow :)

In Edmonton (where I live) snow is a four letter word.

Serg

@Seth how's it going ?

TheXed

lol...

Seth

1:45 AM

@Serg I have a migraine, so not that great :(

TheXed

@Seth in that case go back to your slumber, we will just wake @NathanOsman up.

Seth

it's okay. What do you need?

TheXed

@DmitryKudriavtsev actually needed you...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@DmitryKudriavtsev are your ancestors from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc?

Serg

@Seth try massaging soft spot between thumb and index, helps me

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:47 AM

so I've heard that there's a way for moderators to clear the thumbnail cache?

@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes

Seth

mm, I think so.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@DmitryKudriavtsev Kind of hard to be from three different slavic speaking countries at the same time!

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

Just Russia

Seth

@Serg I will give it a shot.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I love Russia, my new favorite for the last couple of years. Moscow or St. Petersburg region?

TheXed

1:49 AM

My ancestors came to America on the Mayflower...

and so did my wives...

Seth

@DmitryKudriavtsev did you want me to refresh your chat profile?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

yes please

TheXed

I hope our families didn't have any secrete affairs going on on the ship...

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

thanks

Seth

@DmitryKudriavtsev okay, done. It will still take a little while for individual browser caches to update.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:50 AM

yeah, I jsut refreshed and it appeared. Thanks!

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Now Dmitry looks like a Ukranian throw blanket or easter egg.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

please stop

WinEunuuchs2Unix

his icon here i mean.

Serg

@DmitryKudriavtsev why are you using Arch, if you don't mind me asking ?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

I like Arch. Just couldn't find any information on where to download b43 firmware on the arch wiki and totally forgot about google

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:52 AM

NOOOOOOOOOO Serg don't go to the other side!!!!!

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

Arch is pretty awesome

It allows you to customize every aspect of your system fromthe ground up

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Actually I plan to try Arch next year after Ubuntu 16.10 and EnhanceIO.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

The base install is just a command line, you have to install and configure graphical things yourself

It's a rolling release system so there are no versions to upgrade to, you just get the latest versions of the packages as they are added to the repositories

Serg

Arch is OK. I just don't like the fact that you have to spend hours of tweaking it before you get Arch working. I've had it in VM. Took me hours to get GUI working

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I'm not much of a graphical guy in the first place... I just think Arch documentation rocks.

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:54 AM

The package manager is also very nice.

TheXed

Anyone have a raspberry pi?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

pacman?

Serg

@TheXed i do

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

There is something called the AUR which is the Arch User Repository. It contains pretty much every piece of software in existence.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yes

@TheXed I do

TheXed

@Serg @DmitryKudriavtsev what version?

Dmitry Kudriavtsev

1:55 AM

Raspberry Pi 3 with Raspbian (newest version)

Serg

Raspberry Pi 2, Ubuntu snappy

TheXed

Okay I have Rpi2 (x2), both Raspbian Jesse Light, I am trying to decide if it is worth while to upgrade to a pi 3 for my latest project...

Serg

Meh, i wouldn't bother

but if you have money, sure

WinEunuuchs2Unix

What's the max size micro SD RAM thingy you can use in Raspberry Pi 2016 vs. Banana Pi?

16 gb?

Serg

sd card can be any size , iirc

ram in pi 2 is 1 gb i think

TheXed

1:58 AM

@Serg well here is the thing...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Are you sure, my alcatel phone has a max micro or min sd ram card size of 128GB

TheXed

my project is, project catch the pumpkin smashers...

So I am going to use a rpi2 for that...

but then I lose my test pi

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Oh I used to listen to the "Smashing Pumpkins" and then I saw hundreds of smashed up pumpkins on a road in Nanaimo BC... weird actually.

TheXed

so I have this

kerberos.io

and I am going to buy a outside/night vision camera

and put the rpi in my garage...

drill a hole through the wall and mount the camera...

but I have to figure out how to get power to the pi...

So that is my real question...

I could run a extension cord to to the pi.

or???

Serg

um . . . if you want it to be on 24/7, extension cord. For a few hours at night, maybe use a battery pack

TheXed

2:03 AM

I was thinking solar...

but I don't know if it would get enough sun...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

battery charged by solar panels on the garage roof

Serg

that could be done too, but extension chord is more reliable

TheXed

I can't get it to the roof

WinEunuuchs2Unix

A little ole'pi wouldn't draw much.

I'll sell you a ladder.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix and a extension cord? I am into bundle packs...

another thing I am a bit concerned about is how much dust it will collect out there...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:05 AM

We buy ladders in bulk from Louisville USA and extension cords from China... np to sell 1 of each to USA.

TheXed

Hmm...China...I don't want to burn down my house...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Shipping might be 4 grand, but money is no object when it's yours.

I could rip off the made in China sticker and put on made in USA, ULC approved for an extra dollar 50.

TheXed

lol...

I have a ladder, and an extension cord...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

$4,001.50 all together... plus price of the ladder and extension cord... lets say 400 bucks for that.

TheXed

I just need a day worker, to mount, run cable, and stand in front of the camera to set of the motion detector for testing, can you ship me a day worker?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:07 AM

Yeah, I can find you 11 millions, do you speak spanish?

TheXed

No, they need to speak English, or at least Spanglish

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You just need to say "undelah, undelah, ariba, ariba" or something like that.

TheXed

or el bano....

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sounds like a dirty word.

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix uh well I guess it can be...it means bathroom.

or the bathroom

Zacharee1

2:18 AM

@TheXed baño

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Andale, Arriba

TheXed

@Zacharee1 I am not the Spanish speaking person here :=P

Zacharee1

Andale literally means "walk to it"

TheXed

I only know what I know from going to Mexico 10 years ago (before the drug lords took over)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:32 AM

@Zacharee1 thanks for spelling of Andale and Arriba... they mean hurry right?

sorry for delay just finished my 20 CV's :D

TheXed

CVs?

And should I read a book before bed, or watch some tv episode of something on netflix?

Serg

@TheXed implement quicksort in C

TheXed

I don't know what that means, but sounds like fun...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

"walk to it"... fascinating phrase.

@TheXed are you sure you're not a mod from twitter that got grandfathered into AU with 12k rep and mod powers?

Serg

@TheXed quicksort is a sorting algorithm. Sells well because of the name :) It's quite popular in Universities, not sure how popular it is in the real world.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:38 AM

@Serg now that you mention it I think I remember quicksort discussed in school, but maybe not programmed in it.

well time to say poof

TheXed

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no, why would you say that?

Edity

3:14 AM

umm

i just used this site (have I been pwned)

I typed in Serg as a joke

TheXed

@Edity lol what?

Edity

wait

serg has been pwned

wat ?

I don't understand

just see

3:19 AM

O_o

Edity

haveibeenpwned.com

type your name or email

Serg

And I have not visited any of those sites

Edity

it will show up red if you have been pwned

I've not been pwned

TheXed

hmmm just about every site i have ever been too!

Serg

3:43 AM

sigh . . . .

TheXed

@Serg whats up?

Serg

@TheXed same thing, trying to understand why am i doing engineering . . . . and why in the world we need matlab yet aren't required to take class on matlab

TheXed

@Serg I see...

Serg

also somebody asked me when do i graduate again , which is the worst question and i hate it with fierry passion

TheXed

@Serg tell them "when I feel like it"

I suppose it is about equal to when people ask my wife "when are you having kids?"

Serg

3:50 AM

I said " I don't know, because my college doesn't wanna let me go"

in chinese it sounds a bit milder

like a relative visiting and you don't want them to go

TheXed

@Serg I don't know I am pretty much good with whenever my relatives want to go...the sooner the better :-P

Serg

lol , ok . . .let's assume it's actually the relative you like we're talking about and you enjoy their stay actually

TheXed

@Serg I don't think I have any of those...they're all exhausting...but that might be more my problem then them...

that is to say not because they aren't likable people, but that I am an introvert...and a little bit of human interaction goes a long way...probably the same reason I don't like my kids...

just joking about the kids, of course i like them

Serg

i sort of oscillate between being introvert and seeking interaction

Edity

4:06 AM

Seth

@Serg this is totally me. Too little interaction and I get really stir crazy and depressed. Too much and I get withdrawl and depressed.

I'm not a good social person heh.

Serg

neither am I. Humans by nature are social creatures, plus we constantly seek validation of our own selves in the environment . . . I enjoy spending time with friends, but once it gets to the topic of college and when anyone graduates , or politics - i feel uncomfortable then

so . . .to some extend it's all about certain level of comfort you can find with people . . .

TheXed

@Serg @Serg I am good with close friends...sometimes my wife...sometimes the kids if they are not being annoying...but other then that just stay away lol

Serg

also , woo - hoo, at least something starts to make sense in this whole root locus and control system stuff . . . So I might not fail as hard on the exam . . . still might fail, just not as hard

TheXed

Time for me to go bed

user227867

4:14 AM

@Seth Hello Seth, lol. I am here to give you some interaction, lol.

Serg

@TheXed well, good night then :)

TheXed

cya tomorrow most likely

Serg

definitely

Seth

@WillHunting haha, hi! What's up?

Install Ubuntu MATE 16.10?

user227867

@Seth It was disappointing cos it could not even shut down properly! I had to manually shut down each time, so now I am on Mint.

Seth

4:15 AM

That's not good :/

I wonder if Arch breaks this much..

Serg

I think Arch is "broken" from the beginning , and you put it together piece by piece

user227867

@Seth Anyway, because Debian cannot start up properly and Ubuntu cannot shut down properly, I think I will stick to Mint forever. And because Mate cannot disable the recent documents list in the menu, I will stick to Cinnamon forever. So it is Clement Lefebvre's work all the way from now. Oh, I am still waiting to see your pic, lol.

Seth

@WillHunting That's just a bummer. But at least Mint works :)

haha, still no pic :p

Maybe someday, when I'm less insecure ;)

user227867

Yeah, maybe ten more years, lol.

user227867

I finally watched 'Jason Bourne' last week!

user227867

4:20 AM

And last night, I watched 'Good Will Hunting' again!

Seth

was it good?

user227867

Yes, all Matt Damon movies are good.

Seth

haha, fair enough.

user227867

There is no need to even suspect they are not good. It is not possible.

user227867

The only question is whether it is 9/10 or 10/10.

user227867

4:23 AM

Hmm I bet you look like Matt Damon @seth LOL.

Seth

LOL

Edity

AHH

ITS ALL BRIGHT BLUE

user227867

I like these movies: Blue Lagoon, Blue Velvet, Blue Desert, Blue Car.

user227867

My gmail theme is blue, my desktop background is blue, and my coffee mug is blue.

Serg

would you say you're feeling . . . blue ?

user227867

4:27 AM

It is not relevant if I feel blue or not. I am suffering from much worse things...

Serg

understandable

user227867

This morning I watched 'A Beautiful Mind' again. I like the line 'I need to believe that something extraordinary is possible.'

Edity

a really blue addiction

user227867

My favourite line in 'Good Will Hunting' is 'It's not your fault.'

user227867

And my favourite line in Mariah Carey's songs is 'There can be miracles when you believe.'

user227867

4:33 AM

You all enjoy yourselves, bye.

Serg

see ya

Zanna

5:26 AM

@Zacharee1 Actually, I have nothing to say to you but an apology. Last time I was in the room I was talking about you, and I @ you I guess you saw all those messages already, so you know what it is about. @WinEunuuchs2Unix mentioned the old posts again and I directed him to our meta post, and he answered it meta.askubuntu.com/a/16279/527764 and I wrote a comment which I now am ashamed of and want to delete, but I can't delete it without allowing you to read it first

I was also talking about the same thing with @edwinksl here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/33089683#33089683 - I didn't @ you because you haven't been in that room so it wouldn't work, but you can see what I said mentioning you

now I think I was completely out of order to put any blame on you for either that comment on your own meta post, @WinEunuuchs2Unix's meta post, or his comments here

Nathan Osman

I'm back now. I had a really nasty headache. Went to bed after supper and woke up three hours later feeling a lot better.

Now I won't be able to sleep. :P

edwinksl

@NathanOsman you had a cold?

Nathan Osman

Nope, just a headache.

edwinksl

ah okay

Zanna

@Zacharee1 In that conversation I was talking/thinking about how we are not all the same and we all make AU better in our own ways - you have been fantastically supportive of our cleanup efforts and your mission to reduce the CV queue has had a huge positive effect on our efforts

you are totally not responsible for how other people feel about what I and others are doing to expand the queue

I'm apologise unreservedly for saying negative stuff about your work and trying to blame you for stuff that is my problem and my responsibility to deal with

oops I not I'm???

edwinksl

5:41 AM

?

Zanna

(I'm done, sorry folks, resume!)

I'm apologise not I apologise

I can't even say sorry grammatically!!!

edwinksl

oh fat finger people problem

i understand

Nathan Osman

php spam!

Aims lasers...

Pew pew...

Zanna

@edwinksl <3

Nathan Osman

Lol.

github.com/jezen/is-thirteen

> "An npm package to check if a number is equal to 13."

Because that's totally something we need to often do.

edwinksl

5:54 AM

#justnodejsthings

Serg

6:10 AM

@NathanOsman totally useful for superstitious devs

Nathan Osman

I suppose...

I'm all for code reuse but that is ridiculous... even for Node.

Serg

Wait till i make app indicator for that

in C

with inline assembly

Kaz Wolfe

goddamnit

Netflix blocks Hurricane Electric.

Edity

O_o

edwinksl is glitched from my pc

Serg

6:38 AM

@KazWolfe netflix started blocking a lot of things, especially proxies

on the same topic . . . HMA list seems to be still empty

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: looked okay with my requirements by zoiwecto on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

ಠ_ಠ