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Anwar Shah

12:00 PM

@jokerdino give me proof

nope

unfades Hi

o/

@Takkat you have a ping from Eliah

msPeachy

fades in

Anwar Shah

12:01 PM

@jokerdino do you see any answer here from me? askubuntu.com/q/135818/61218

Takkat

@msPeachy: great edits. You can also remove "Ubuntu" from the title (mostly)

@AnwarShah what ping where?

Anwar Shah

wait ..

Takkat

.. waits.

Anwar Shah

15

A: What's the meaning of "-pae" at the end of kernel version?

PAE stands for P-hysical A-ddress E-xtension to access 4 GiB RAM on 32-bit systems. This is not needed for a 64-bit Ubuntu. for 11.10 and earlier For 32-bit Ubuntu a PAE kernel is automatically downloaded and installed on a system with more than 3 GB of RAM. Otherwise, and if no network connect...

@Takkat here

msPeachy

@Takkat well, thank you. I thought Ubuntu version should always be explicitly appended to the title, thanks for the tip

Anwar Shah

12:02 PM

we almost wanted to give you a DV ;P

aking1012

decides that fading is too normal a way to enter and cuts his way through the wall with a chainsaw

o/

Takkat

@msPeachy versions can sometimes, but Ubuntu is not needed - its all about Ubuntu here :)

Anwar Shah

in Discussion about offline updates methods, 16 hours ago, by Anwar Shah

Should we do a DV on that? ;P

^^ but the decision was NO

Takkat

@AnwarShah yeah saw that and edited the answer (totally forgot about 11.10) ;)

msPeachy

@Takkat oh yes, haven't thought of that, silly me...:P

Anwar Shah

12:04 PM

we were exactly looking for 11.10

jokerdino

@AnwarShah yes ofcourse. i see yours and 5 others.

msPeachy

hey @aking1012

badp

@AnwarShah ↓

Anwar Shah

@jokerdino from me, how many?

badp

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Takkat

12:05 PM

@msPeachy great edits (nothing silly)

jokerdino

@badp sup

badp

(I love the internet.)

jokerdino

@badp also, i remember your chat message that you left for almost nobody. can you post it on the meta or something?

badp

@jokerdino I don't remember it

jokerdino

@badp re: steam coming to linux and graphics card; achievements trophies etc

Anwar Shah

12:06 PM

waiting...

jokerdino

@AnwarShah one deleted and one not deleted.

msPeachy

@Takkat thank you

Anwar Shah

thanks. dino

badp

uuuuh still drawing a blank

jokerdino

@badp hold on

Jun 9 at 0:22, by badp

It'd be sweet if you could arrange either on the site, on the blog, on the wiki or whatever else the simplest guide you can arrange on how to make sure you get native graphic acceleration (proprietary drivers if necessary) before Steam is released for Linux later (?) this year (valve time)

Anwar Shah

12:07 PM

BBL

jokerdino

you left quite a message around that time.

Takkat

oh no - work ahead - sees himself fading again

jokerdino

@Takkat cya

hi @aking1012

@badp --^^^

badp

It'd be something more for the Ubuntu Wiki than Ask Ubuntu itself

jokerdino

hm we are all one family ;p

i think a CW on Ask Ubuntu would work out just fine

msPeachy

12:17 PM

hello???

jokerdino

heya

@msPeachy @AnwarShah i was just kidding. dino does NOT ping me. i was just messing with y'all

msPeachy

aha!

so it was just a coincidence that you came on here the same time that i mention you

jokerdino

yep ;p

msPeachy

well, from now on if I want your attention, I'd ping you.

jokerdino

that works just fine. if you need to ping me, you just ping me ;p if not, you can refer to me as dino or whatever that is identifiable by others ;p

msPeachy

12:21 PM

yes, i know you'd just use Ctrl+F and search for dino

:P

jokerdino

sort of ;p

msPeachy

is there another way?

Prasad

@fossfreedom Sorry, there was a power cut here, i'm not going to burn a cd from the live cd , i'm just want to burn a live cd image to a dvd... is that possible, will it work?

jokerdino

i can just create a rss feed with dino search term in chat.

msPeachy

don't know anything about rss feeds

:(

jokerdino

12:22 PM

:/

Remember, google is our BFF ;p

msPeachy

i know but...

fossfreedom

@Prasad dunno - I've never tried to create a bootable DVD. Anyone else know if its possible?

deathly silence

Prasad

:-) +1

Anwar Shah

oh. to ping you, there is only one way. @jokerdino

See this OT askubuntu.com/q/167453/61218

jokerdino

thanks.

OT?

Anwar Shah

12:28 PM

I mean that as Off-topic

jokerdino

how is it OT?

Anwar Shah

He saw something it other site and wanted to know what was that?

jokerdino

someone grab that image and we can remove the link.

Anwar Shah

bbl

jokerdino

cya

msPeachy

12:33 PM

is it appropriate to shorten links using []() format?

jokerdino

should be fine.

linkie?

msPeachy

you call it linkie?

lol

jokerdino

yeah ;p

Anwar Shah

Don't put full link in front of Lord of Time

He'll mind

always a linkie

bye.

jokerdino

bye

Anwar Shah

12:34 PM

see the chat message earlier for a proof

...........

exit

jokerdino

i call a link linkie. a laptop a lappie

exit()

system.exit(0);

}

aw, forgot the bracket

msPeachy

12:36 PM

lol

have you had dinner?

jokerdino

yeah.

go and have your dinner now!!!

msPeachy

not hungry, just had oats and milk

jokerdino

oh kk

msPeachy

amith's not here

jokerdino

yes but we got @AlisterBulman here though.

hi there Alister!

msPeachy

12:40 PM

looks like josh groban

from afar

jokerdino

sush you.

msPeachy

:P

Amith KK

12:51 PM

anyone called?

Hello all :)

0

A: How to make dash load faster in unity-2d

Okay it sounds like your RAM is definitely going but to make sure run a boot-able program called MEMTEST86 and let it run for a while and see if any errors pop up. If you get no errors that doesn't automatically exclude the troubleshooting the RAM. But before you go out and buy a new stick check ...

Oh my

msPeachy

hey amith

Amith KK

Hey @msPeachy

jokerdino

yeah, whoever told you it was an interesting question should take a hard look at themselves

3

fossfreedom

:)

jokerdino

oops. who starred that ;p

msPeachy

12:54 PM

well, he needs that +50 badly

jokerdino

who does?

msPeachy

that guy who answered with the "very respectfully" closing remark

jokerdino

o.O

msPeachy

:P, guess he doesn't usually press the Enter key

definitely a dupe askubuntu.com/questions/167459/…

jokerdino

Did I tell you I accept all edits of Mr Billiz without opening my eyes? ;p

msPeachy

1:03 PM

who's mr billiz?

jokerdino

Bill the lizard.

I call him billiz out of respect

msPeachy

you mean you?

jokerdino

no lol

Bill the Lizard, Charlotte, NC

197 1 11

i wish it was my sock account but nope

msPeachy

you have lizard as your ava, well sort of

jokerdino

dupes - askubuntu.com/questions/162686/…

ObsessiveFOSS

1:12 PM

Can questions with blatant duplicates be downvoted as per the hover message on the vote button?
"This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful (click again to undo)"

jokerdino

please don't. i know how annoyed you are but please don't

Lord of Time

grabs the BFG

oh you havent seen annoyed :P

the phones and email are down here at work again

so i'm FAR PAST annoyed

msPeachy

i don't think it should be downvoted based on it having duplicates, if it was well written and clear but IS a dupe, it shouldn't be downvoted.

SirCharlo

@LordofTime and it's not your job to make them work again, i guess

Lord of Time

@SirCharlo this outage is Verizon's problem

not mine.

SirCharlo

1:17 PM

ouch

jokerdino

ok cheers. i just fixed a mediocre question.

Lord of Time

but its hampering work efforts

jokerdino

1

Q: How to remove duplicate entries in Grub menu?

After today's update, Ubuntu asked me to replace some files and I blindly accepted. After I restarted PC after the update, I saw duplicate entries in the grub menu: Here's the image of the grub customizer. Apparently, Grub Customizer can not save edited information. Is there a way to remov...

Lord of Time

so my day went from "I'm not feeling well" to "THE ENDING SHALL BE UNLEASHED" just by me walking in today

internet's fine, but phones and email are down :/

SirCharlo

email is with verizon?

no exchange server?

:O

Lord of Time

1:18 PM

email servers aren't, but they're out in Harrisburg

they're Exchange

SirCharlo

man that sucks

Lord of Time

but with their IPs not being broadcast to the world

email's down

SirCharlo

long live onsite servers

Lord of Time

so...

</rage>

msPeachy

@LordofTime it does, but there are so many of us who can direct them to the dupe question with useful answers.

SirCharlo

1:19 PM

i feel for you

Lord of Time

@SirCharlo tell me that when you've got > 45000 employees state-wide who need email but dont have it

SirCharlo

well at least youre still being paid

Lord of Time

centralized email works better in the large scale deployment over, what, several thousand square miles?

indeed

SirCharlo

besides, youre surely not alone to manage this outage

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime I hate Verizon. I also have had no sleep over Picma Squared, which I hate, but must complete. I have consumed no coffee, but only caffeine-free herbal tea.

Lord of Time

1:25 PM

after this phone call...

the evil shall rise unless i get coffee

plans to head over to Dunkin Donuts for his required daily coffee

ObsessiveFOSS

Why am I not allowed to downvote my own posts?

Lord of Time

because they're your own posts?

fossfreedom

@ObsessiveFOSS if they are irrelevant - just hit the delete button.

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS i have some votes left for the day. drop me the links

fossfreedom

... otherwise - just let us know and we'll DV you :P

jokerdino

1:29 PM

what foss said -^

Lord of Time

And I'm in such an evil mood I will ABSOLUTELY downvote you if you ask

7

ObsessiveFOSS

They're not irrelevant, and they're good, but I think they are crap.

Lord of Time

will downvote you into /dev/zero

aking1012

/me cannot find a package that supplies maven-license-plugin...

jokerdino

thinks pidgin > empathy.

Amith KK

1:33 PM

BBL

ObsessiveFOSS

maven?

jokerdino

thanks for that useful comment in this discussion @AmithKK. very thoughtful of you ;p

@ObsessiveFOSS raven's bigger brother.

aking1012

@ObsessiveFOSS a sort of packaging tools for java

Anwar Shah

@jokerdino who is raven then?

maven's younger brother

jokerdino

raven is the poem written by Edgar Poe.

Anwar Shah

1:36 PM

thanks.

Let's start a popularity contest

Lord of Time

heck, i might downvote everyone today. Just because I can. /evil

ObsessiveFOSS

That was a questioning suggestion. Notice monospace?

Anwar Shah

What is your favorite Ubuntu applications?

Lord of Time

@AnwarShah ones which end things.

:P

HackToHell

Ubuntu has apps ?

Lord of Time

1:37 PM

aka every app that segfaults the kernel

jokerdino

@HackToHell all software programs are apps in our world

Anwar Shah

right^^

Lord of Time

@AnwarShah You mean the International Money Hoarders Organization?

(see which msg i am replying to first)

Anwar Shah

Mine is: CCSM, Synaptic

aking1012

@LordofTime typo that would be the IMF

HackToHell

1:38 PM

@jokerdino I blame steve jobs for naming every damn thing as app

jokerdino

@HackToHell XD you make a very valid point.

@aking1012 lol

@aking1012 heh

lol

Can you delete your post with answer?

aking1012

1:41 PM

nope

Anwar Shah

I've deleted one in server fault just now

aking1012

i got denied on that once. maybe it has to have an upvoted answer

Anwar Shah

Q had -1, answer had 0

jokerdino

you can delete your question if there is an answer.

but there is some condition to meet.

the answer should not have any vote, the answer should have less than 2 lines or something like that

Anwar Shah

any vote mean 0 votes ?

jokerdino

1:44 PM

0 or worse

Anwar Shah

let say, it has 2 upvotes and then 2 dv

got it

Takkat

@AnwarShah comment to ask the answerer to delete his answer? Or even better improve the question to make it brilliant ;P

Anwar Shah

@Takkat I deleted already !

with Answer

jokerdino

linkie?

Lord of Time

0

Q: Which program is this?

I've just been on the Fuduntu Website and watched the slideshow of Fuduntu-screenshots they got on it. And on the third picture there was a tool on the Desktop that looked very similar to Rainmeter on Windows and now I am asking what program is this? Please have a look: http://www.fuduntu.org/

software-center

not certain that's on topic

Anwar Shah

1:46 PM

can you have a link for deleted question?

Lord of Time

no

not unless you're a god being

aka moderator

Anwar Shah

@jokerdino serverfault.com/questions/399528/…

jokerdino

i can view the question if i can find the link

Roland Taylor

@LordofTime I can

Anwar Shah

@jokerdino then let me know the trick

Lord of Time

1:47 PM

This question was voluntarily removed by its author

Takkat

I can't see SF questions (no rep there).

Roland Taylor

10k+ users can see deleted content

except for deleted users I think

Anwar Shah

but he is 10k in AU only

Lord of Time

@RolandTaylor stop flaunting your 10k

Takkat

<-- never gets 10k rep on SF

jokerdino

1:48 PM

@AnwarShah stop trolling with SF links.

ObsessiveFOSS

Never gets 10k, although has 150ik on every site

Anwar Shah

what?

Roland Taylor

@LordofTime lol

jokerdino

i think someone just invited me to English chat room.

Roland Taylor

20k

you mean

Lord of Time

1:48 PM

@jokerdino lol, that's the hell site. :P

Anwar Shah

@jokerdino I told you, it was in SF

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor @Takkat Got the invite? xD

Lord of Time

@RolandTaylor SILENCE!

OR DOOM SHALL BEFALL YOU

jokerdino

@LordofTime lol fair enough.

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino nope lol

oh wait

I got a flag if that's what you mean

jokerdino

1:50 PM

@AnwarShah ok

@RolandTaylor well yes ofcourse ;p

Takkat

By the time I got curious it was already gone.

fossfreedom

@RolandTaylor ... its been deleted by me

jokerdino

something to do with nerds and girls

didn't really read it. some mod randomly hit some button.

Anwar Shah

Good disguise

Takkat

Aren't there automatic flags from the system?

Roland Taylor

1:52 PM

@fossfreedom :(

fossfreedom

@RolandTaylor ... my first cross-stack-exchange deletion ... didnt know I had the power!

jokerdino

@fossfreedom lol

noob mouse :p

Roland Taylor

@fossfreedom all mods have chat powers.

Across the entire site.

jokerdino

time to get off for some supper; cya laterz

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino cya :P

jokerdino

1:54 PM

:D

Takkat

later or so @jokerdino

jokerdino

i'll be back in an hour

Lord of Time

@jokerdino YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO GO FOR AN HOUR

:P

The Interrupter

Bounty offered: Backup with duplicity on Google Cloud Storage http://askubuntu.com/questions/164984/backup-with-duplicity-on-google-cloud-storage?atw=1 #backup

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on July 24, 2012 at 1:34 PM

jokerdino

@LordofTime as you say. i am back

Anwar Shah

2:05 PM

an hour!

I am reading this codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/6707/4947

jokerdino

@fossfreedom btw, you just invariably suspended someone from chat for 30 minutes

fossfreedom

... serves as warning - careful what you say in chat.

jokerdino

well apparently, he does deserve the suspend. bravoda!

fossfreedom

banter in chat is definitely allowed - start saying stuff like what that person was saying ... that's different.

jokerdino

yeah. you did the right thing there. no conflict of opinions here.

aking1012

2:10 PM

instead of flagging it a better response might have been to start linkbombing with nixie pixel and citizen engineer videos

jokerdino

xD it happened in the other room though ;p

aking1012

i prefer citizen engineer, but maybe it's just me

Anwar Shah

How can I paste in nano from external copy?

jokerdino

ctrl - shift - v

aking1012

that --^

Anwar Shah

2:15 PM

oh. thanks

to copy from nano?

without using mouse?

jokerdino

select ctrl - shift -c

Anwar Shah

how to select without mouse? (no offense to foss)

jokerdino

i use vim. blah

Anwar Shah

int main(int ac, int av) {
        return ac++<11?main(ac,printf("Print this line\n")):0;
}

Lord of Time

now i'm curious what happened...

apparently someone got tempbanned?

Anwar Shah

2:17 PM

from code golf

cat file | xclip

ah

for what?

get your file in to clipboard

with no mouse

Anwar Shah

xclipboard, you mean.

thanks

but if i want to do one line?

aking1012

2:20 PM

use a regex to select it

or use a mouse

what he said

me?

no, what he said.

i really think java was designed for the express purpose of breaking package management systems...

Anwar Shah

lol.

jokerdino

2:34 PM

i was told java was made to make sure that new students don't replace the employed engineers

Anwar Shah

Does package management systems existed at 1991?

Lord of Time

@Anwar s/Does/Did/

and

s/existed/exist/

Anwar Shah

i think, java was designed for ugliest user experience possible (in gui side)

aking1012

debian and redhat both started in 93...but it has been a decade. you'ld think it would be sorted out by now

ObsessiveFOSS

Whoever serially-downvoted me an hour ago doesn't realize my sarcasm.

@LordofTime hint-hint...

@AnwarShah Refer to askubuntu.com/users/54298/obsessivefoss?tab=reputation

jokerdino

2:38 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS oops. sorry man. got bored

Anwar Shah

@ObsessiveFOSS I wasn't in them

jokerdino

told you you shouldn't try to be sarcastic.

Anwar Shah

But, if you want, I can give 1 now (of course DV)

ObsessiveFOSS

@jokerdino Whatever...

Anwar Shah

or may be an UV

ObsessiveFOSS

2:42 PM

@AnwarShah I need an amount of rep divisible by 4. Your choice.

Anwar Shah

You get 50 with 2 lines!

jokerdino

@ObsessiveFOSS just messing with you. i have no idea who went rampant. I suspect LOT though.

ObsessiveFOSS

Ah.

fossfreedom

@LordofTime - serial downvoting whether sarcasm or not is tolerated. I would suggest you revisit your thoughts.

jokerdino

@foss :/

ObsessiveFOSS

2:45 PM

@fossfreedom Isn't it too late for him to reverse unless I edit each of my posts?

Lord of Time

@fossfreedom you'll have to undo the downvotes, they're locked by the hour timeout

jokerdino

@LordofTime do the fake edit and remove the downvote.

edit a letter. remove downvote and undo edit.

Lord of Time

@jokerdino tell me that when the edit button shows up

jokerdino

undo as in manually replace the letter

Lord of Time

because apparently the edit link is missing

Anwar Shah

2:46 PM

not needed now

jokerdino

@LordofTime you got knocked out?

Anwar Shah

I think he lost only -1

Don't delete it. :-) — Chan-Ho Suh Apr 25 at 20:42

??

Lord of Time

@jokerdino system error. remember, IExplore while at work, not FFox

jokerdino

@LordofTime fail

Lord of Time

i went on a rant in #ubuntu-bugs about how much IExplore must burn yesterday too

jokerdino

2:48 PM

@AnwarShah which part of that did you not understand?

Lord of Time

fortunately, the rant was warranted

jokerdino

shrug.

Anwar Shah

why is that comment there?

jokerdino

the world is going to end soon.

Anwar Shah

yes. i agree with you 100%

ObsessiveFOSS

2:50 PM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo‌ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo‌ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

jokerdino

i am sorry. i am having a bad day replying to super obvious questions.

i can't be too nice all the time.

Anwar Shah

kk

Lord of Time

laggy piece of...

@ObsessiveFOSS So did you actually test as you said you would in your answer?

(check your rep tab too, its been fixed)

and i only had to actually roll back one edit of mine :P

ObsessiveFOSS

Yes. Just added results.